How Teedra Moses Laid The Blueprint For Hoodrat R&B

What does it feel like to be me?

Hi! My name is Panama Jackson, you may remember me from such musical expositions as Tupac Back: You Can’t Be A Thug Angel If You Won’t Die N*gga and The Areola Heard ‘Round The World: Aretha Franklin and You. Well today we’re going to discuss a genre of R&B that is quite prevalent and has its roots in both the African griot community and the halls of ghetto America: hoodrat R&B.

Hoodrat R&B is the arena that appeals most to hoodrats. One might ask themselves, how does one appeal to hoodrats? Good question. Very good question. To see how we do this, we will use the pre-eminent album in the canon, Teedra Moses first rendering, Complex Simplicity. This album is a study in hoodratism and general f*ckery. And it is to be loved by all who beckon to the booty gods.

Full disclosure, upon first hearing this album I hated it. I thought it sucked more nuts than two squirrels at an AVN convention. I even trashed it publicly on my old website. Then shortly after, on a cold November night, I placed the spherical disc in this machine…a machine of discness and compactibility. Then my world changed. I actually met Teedra Moses a few years back and apologized. She had no idea why, nor did she care. Either way, Complex Simplicity is a great album. It’s also everything you ever need to know if you want to specialize in hoodrat R&B.

Are you curious why?

Me too.

Everybody mambo.

Let’s go.

The Teedra Moses Complex Simplicity Blueprint Model for Hoodrat R&B

1. Exhibit hoodrat characteristics

Look, I don’t know Teedra. But what I do know is that she got knocked up by a rapper who has spent more time on the run than Carl Lewis. Who is her rapper baby daddy? Ras Kass, one of the better rappers that nobody really remembers. His Soul On Ice album and title track should be bronzed, but it won’t be, cuz dude spends more time in jail than Gucci Mane. The most important part of setting the standard for a genre is to dress for the job you want. I think getting knocked up by a jail loving conscious rapper is par the course. After all, he will make you see LA like Ed O’Bannon. Get it, UCLA = you see LA? Forget it. Call me now!

On to the music.

2. Focus on topics that hoodrats will be able to relate to and rally behind.

The opening words on her album, in the song, “Be Your Girl” are “don’t know if you got a girl, don’t mean no disrespect but thoughts of you rule my world…”

From jump she’s like, look, girl or no girl, I need to be your girl. You are on my mind booboo. All the time. Right now, I’m studying for my final exam at Everest College with the light skinned jumpoff from the commercial…you remember her, and I can’t focus because I’m thinking about you. Hey, I wonder, do you even notice me at all? You got to feel me. I mean, I would love you good, I just got to be your girl.

See, hoodrats focus is on snagging the crush. Girlfriend? Wife? Boothang? No worries because she said no disrespect. That means its fair game. Hoodrat logic.

Which reminds me, the scene in Talladega Nights where Ricky Bobby says that by saying with all due respect he can say what he wants is another example of hoodrat logic co-0pted by country white people.

Topics on Complex Simplicity include: songs that clearly state that a man’s backstroke keeps her around (explicitly stated by the way), how she’s the bomb diggy and if she decides she wants a man, it’s going down (no Joc), which is obviously part 2 of “Be Your Girl” since she’s just now catching the interest…he just doesn’t know he’s about to get got, “Caution” he’s falling.

More on this later.

3. Use hoodrat rally calls and nomenclature

The opening words of the single “You’ll Never Find ( A Better Woman)” – a dope song by the way featuring Jadakiss – are, “ooooooooooooh cat daddy”. That is the hoodrat Thundercat cry. In fact, every time I go to the hood, all I hear is women yelling “oooooooooooooooooh cat daddy” from the windows and from Corrollas, Prisms, and Sentras, the official cars of hoodrats. Thing is, Teedra’s voice is so insanely dope that when she says, as a cat daddy, I want to walk towards her and let her tell me that I’ll indeed never find another woman as good as her. And minus the prison loving baby daddy she might be right.

4. The Beat-A-B*tch Anthem

Teedra’s album contains one horridly mixed song produced by Lil Jon (a hoodrat connoisseur) called “You Betta Tell Her”. You see where this is going. It’s about some chick around town claiming her man, surely a topic all hoodrats can relate to, understand, and sympathize with. So what do you need to do…not only do you better tell her…you better get that b*tch told tonight. Yes, homey, you, with the other chick claiming you, go get that b*tch told. All up in the club. Or her little 4’11″ arse will be on that a** like white on rice. I think if she released this song today in a better mixed format, it would go number one in every country with a Black woman.

5. Depth

I”m not sure if you spend any time on Twitter, but it’s a hoodrat heaven. It’s a little place where all hoodrats can go to talk about their haters, get b*tches told…but in a surprise move, be remarkably deep and inspirational with such gems as: If u c it, u kin acheev it. Lt ur h8trs b ur motivators. God luvs u. Jesus wept for ur h8trs. You see, hoodrats, despite the circumstances they’ve found themselves in are generally brimming with angst and otherworldlyness and ultimately, like Xscape, are only looking for understanding. Sure they might beat you down, but at the end of the day, the lament the society that put them in a position to do so. It’s a sort of complex simplicity if you will.

AHA!! Album title. Contradictory depth. All hoodrats can appreciate terms like complex simplicity as its how they define themselves on Twitter with handles like, LoudlyQuietThugMisses or (for the male hoodrat) Mis-terUndastoodHoodPain, or InnerTurmoil69 or SaveTheChirrenKillANi99a. You get the point. Teedra comes with this in spades. She has songs about the depth of her struggle. Like “Complex Simplicity” and “For A Lifetime”.

6. The odd cosign

See, hoodrat R&B singers all need a major cosign. Hers? Motherf*cking Raphael Saadiq on the song “Take Me” a dope as a mug song. In hoodrat, this is the mentor with major pull who finds that hoodrat that they want to help out.

7.  The Mama Song

Tupac perfect it and its been duplicated to much less than stellar results ever since in hip-hop, but singers can generally never go wrong. And Teedra can sing. A lot. Her song “I Think of You (Shirley’s Song)” dedicated to her mother who passed away complete with an intro that uses the word “situation”. Hoodrats love this word because they always have situations. And mamas. 

******

After all that you might be saying, hey, this is wrong. Everybody knows that Mary J. Blige is the blueprint. I’d agree except 1) she was well before her time; and 2) even on What’s the 411, she went remarkably vague. All of those songs were hoodrat in theory, not in practice. If you sang those words over more mainstream beats, you’d have had hits.

What about Monica? She gave it a go, but she was more hood as a person than she was in her music. Trust me. Destiny’s Child tried to go that route but ultimately they had to tone it back to sell records. They didn’t give it a full run.

Plus, they all heavily predated the genre in order to come up with a fully encompassing body of work like Teedra Moses and Complex Simplicity. It is an album that deserves its rightful place at the head of the hoodrat r&b table. Male singers like Ideal, Profyle, and Jagged Edge tried but were ultimately unsuccessful at fully connecting.

Teedra Moses is an icon. A beacon of R&B goodness. And ultimately she’s a testament to miss, thug misses, shy misses…and it doesn’t matter because you’re my misses.

If Teedra released her album today, it would go platinum, she was just a few years before her time, but roughly all of the music created by male and female R&B singers nowadays sounds like an offshot of the direct, straight from the hip deep and complex mind of Teedra Moses and they all owe a debt of gratitude to the Lioness. No Amil.

Happy Friday.

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3

  • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

    I LOVE TEEDRA!!!!!
    That’s a til I read

    • http://www.awordorthree.com Crystal Marie

      I happen to know Phlyy Girl in real life. She’s a great girl. She’ s also very hood.

      • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

        Funny, cause I did get that feeling from her Twitter timeline…

        • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

          About Teedraa, not PhlyyGirl…

          *goes to bed*

        • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

          Meh. You might wanna stay away from my twitter timeline too.
          It’s about the same…only with less self promotion,

          • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

            Mine too. My twitter consists of vents from my everyday life, reality show critiques and confessions from my inner prison goon personality Cuddles.

            • rnic

              *quivers in fear at Cuddles*

            • tnt_ftw

              cuddles. this amuses me

            • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

              You know if there were no reality shows to critique, I doubt I’d even have a need for twitter.
              I don’t have an inner goon tho.
              I have an inner goblin named Holly.

              Goon<<<<Goblin!!!

              I'm sorry. I couldn't help myself. LOL!

              • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                Ha! :)

          • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

            I ain’t say I stopped following (or I wasn’t gonna follow), I said I got the feeling…

            • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

              And speaking of Twitter, word has now gotten to one Miss Teedra Moses…

      • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

        Bwhahahahahaa! I am NOT hood. I just play hood on the internet.
        Thank you and good night!

    • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

      And now that I’ve finally gotten through this.

      I hate to say it, but you’re kinda right.
      Ok, you’re all the way right, but my love for Teedra won’t let me admit that.

      I have loved her first album and all subsequent mixtapes for forever probably because deep down inside, I want to be a hoodrat.
      Also because Backstroke got major play in the whip when…. well nevermind. The point is, I had to buy three cd’s cause I warped two.
      The fact that she’s also now signed to Rick Ross’ Maybach Music Group also further validates everything you said.
      She’s the Olivia of their crew…only she sings better.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        Teedra’s songs are dope. i love her voice. she’s got quite the voice to be so tiny.

      • Nell

        “She’s the Olivia of their crew…only she sings better.”

        That, and we actually got to hear her sing. And she put an album out. Up until Chicken TV — err — Love and Hip Hop, I had no idea what it was Olivia did.

    • rnic

      LOVED Complex Simplicity! And say what you will about Teedra but you can’t deny that she can SANG. I was actually disappointed that she didn’t have/find better management and producers that could’ve given her a better shot at mainstream success….or atleast more than success than she had.

      SN: You can’t forget about the “You Better Tell Her” remix……LOL. It gets no hood-er than that. Unless, of course, you got a choppa in tha car…

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        she’s one of those chicks that should have been more popular than she was. thing is…nearly every woman i know who does know her, loves her to bits and pieces and all that good sh*t. i think if the album was mixed better with better promo, she might have done something.

      • Lina

        from the beginning instrumental you can tell this joint was gonna be hood, then the words got d*mn.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      deep…kind of like Teedra’s album. lol good job. good damn job.

  • IsOurChildrenLearning?

    I will say that while I absolutely hate R&B music I actually LOVE Complex Simplicity. Maybe that means that I truly am a hoodrat and my rat-ish ways transcend genre.

    • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

      ALL R&B or most of the current stuff. Because I tend to stick with the soulful joints and anything past 2004. As much as I love Hip-Hop, this song will always stay on rotation:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1wyzIYjGj0

      Love that song…

      • IsOurChildrenLearning?

        I like soul music a lot and some “neo soul”, but pretty much any run off the mill R&B from the early 90′s til now gets a side-eye from me. I’ve never liked Jodeci, Mary J (she sounds like a ferrel cat), Mariah, Keshia Cole, Monica, Brandy, SWV, Toni Braxton etc. My list is so random because I can’t even think of that many big name modern R&B cats.

        • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

          I can agree on that, but I cannot allow you to insult my Mary J. The rest I can agree with, and I feel the same way about one current-Mrs. Swizz Beats (BKA Alicia Keys).

          • mr_b_ez25

            i qm prolly way off base here, but i loved druggie mjb. sober mjb is cool, but damn if her anguish and pain just felt realer in her uptown records days…that is all

            • PoliBohoGlam

              You are not off base AT ALL. I have been silently dealing with my guilt over this for years because you want a person to be well, but you want the music to be GOOD.

              ::shedstearofshame::

        • Mo-VSS

          Damn, you really DO hate R&B. Cuz while the current crop of newbies aren’t anything like their predecessors, Toni, Mariah, Monica and Brandy can SING. New Mariah doesn’t hold a handle to old Mariah, but still….the voice is what is always constant. That goes for all of them.

          Now days, you don’t even have to be able to sing to get signed (I’m looking at YOU Ashanti) and while I mentioned her…Ashanti was definitely of the ghetto variety…except she wasn’t. Not in real life. And it showed, which is why her music stalled out. Either that or you know…the fact that she can’t sing shines through.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      i just dont understand how one can hate all of it? no redeeming qualities? at all???

  • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

    Great post. I hadn’t heard the whole album outside of “Be Your Girl” and that was only because of the Ahmad Jamal sample (used in Pete & C.L.’s “It’s On You” from The Main Ingredient). I’m not surprised that Jagged Edge tried the hood angle and failed. I never liked them nigros.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      when i think of “Be Your Girl”, i automatically think of Nas “One on One” since the beat is pretty much the exact same sample chop and sequencing as that song. in fact, that’s partially why i didnt like teedra initially cuz that was my first foray into her. no bang.

      she was ahead of her time even in that regard cuz now that’s standard mixtape practice.

      • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

        *listens to “One on One”*

        GTFOH… Knowing how they do Hip-Hop beats into R&B songs (think that Beatnuts song that became “Jenny From the Block” or that Total song that DIRECTLY sampled “Ten Crack Commandments”, which itself was a sample), I wouldn’t be surprised if they sampled that DIRECTLY from “One on One”. I think that Teedra Moses fits the beat better, and that Pete Rock & C.L. sampled that joint a TAD bit better.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          since i’m a Pete Rock stan, i’m gonna go ahead and say “it’s on you” is a better joint.

  • tezzybaby

    Who??

    • DG

      LMAO…

    • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

      right..never heard of her

    • Mo-VSS

      WTF is Tedra Moses….outside of “Take me” with Raphael Saddiq, I’ve never heard ANY of her songs.

      • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

        *GASP*
        ARE YOU SERIOUS???????

        Your ears have been severely neglected. The thing is, even though she kinda sorta sometimes sings about hood rat things, she has a GORGEOUS voice. Like really gorgeous.
        And honestly, I met her in person. She might have a thug a*s baby daddy, but she’s quite refined.
        You should listen to her stuff. I’m gonna go find a link to her last mixtape, cause it was GREAT!

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        how you gonna say WTF is teedra moses…then name check a song you know. lol. ninjas.

      • http://kineticculture.com NubianEmpress

        Yeah yall trippin…what about “I want you back” with Raphael Saadiq? That jawn KNOCKS…..I am admittedly a devotee of Badu, but Teedra gets burn over here.

    • DQ

      Ok so good, it’s not just me

    • StrawberryPoptarts

      Right. And we’re not talking about Tearra (sp?) Marie, right?

    • Lina

      exactly, i was like uh..

      don’t worry, it just means we’re not hood rats.

    • Kema

      Yes! I remember seeing somewhere she recently signed with Rick Ross but I didnt realize she had done something before. lol! I’m so not in the loop.

    • http://lefthandscribble.tumblr.com LoveB_Jones

      I’m wondering who in the hell she is too…lol. I’m a 90s baby so I’ll have to say Keyshia Cole pre-love/baby gives the blueprint for hoodrat R&B, especially when she use to wear that red hair with the platinum blonde bang. Hoodrat-ness at it’s finest.

      • 2011k

        Lol, same here. 2011k was established in ’93, and I have to admit, in 2004, hoodrat R&B was not on my mind…like, AT ALL. I didn’t get my first dose of hoodrat music until a friend of mine’s 12th birthday party. “I Should Have Cheated” came on, and all I saw were a bunch of drunk/high women in wife-beaters and poon shorts yelling “I SHOULDA CHEATED!!!!” with their eyes closed and blunts waving in the air…fun times…

        • DG

          Wow, ’93 huh?!?? I think I literally have underwear older than you….

          • http://www.twitter.com/makinghisstory Evan McAuthur Kane

            yeah–hell, ’93 was around the time i started freeballin’ (baaallin’!)…see now that old bill clinton/arsenio hall reference makes more sense, huh!? lol

            • LMNOP

              much more sense…
              But, Clinton was president until 2000 .
              And my five year old has known who the president is since before he was elected, which I think is normal, I’ve seen her and her little friends playing president, and saying things like “if you don’t stop doing that, I am going to call president Obama”

      • beautifulfeelin

        Keyshia is def hood, but as far as the album goes… Keyshia can get real genaric, and real boring, real quick.

    • nillalatte

      LOL… I think Panama is the hoodrat for real! :D Of course, that’s with all due respect, Panama. LMAO! Actually, I was checking my hoodrat status with this post because… uh… on somethings I was relating. ;)

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        i’m not a hoodrat though i do like to do hoodrat things with my friends.

    • FormerlyImperfect

      Lol. Yes! I have never heard of her.

    • Sea Jay Bee

      Yeah, I have heard of her (mostly by name on an interlude on the Little Brother/ DJ Drama “Separate But Equal” Gangsta Grills vol. whatever mixtape) but never took to listening to her.

      I guess I need to get my hoodrat quotient up…well, maybe not.

    • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

      Yeah, the fact that this is (and probably will be) the longest comment thread is hilarity.

    • http://www.thefriendraiser.com jenifer daniels

      i only found out about her on Pandora. somehow they thought Jill Scott and her were in the same lane.

      but i’ll do you one Panama. 3 words. Mo.ken.steph.

      their group name was even hood.

      • PoliBohoGlam

        mokensteph!
        yes.

        I still don’t know who this chick is, though.

      • Kimmy

        I liked Mokenstef *don’t judge me*, they actually weren’t bad singers. Teedra’s music is a smidge hood, but she can really sing…Rescue Me is a good song.

      • SouthofGeorgia

        “He’s mine. you may have had him once but I got him all the time.”

        *drops microphone*

      • Margo_Brown

        I’on know now, Jill Scott got some hood in her, I mean she is from “Norf Philly y’all.” “Gettin In the Way” from her first album made that quite clear…..not to mention her lyrics talking about “rollin trees”….I don’t think Pandora got it all wrong, lol.

        Either way I love both artists. Got Teedra’s first album and loved it.

    • V Renee

      LMAO! I had the same reaction.

      • PerceptionIsYourReality

        I am shocked and appalled at all these Learned well rounded peeps who have neva heard of Ms. Moses! She is awesome with a capital A!! My home girls and I had her on constant repeat in college!! She was that Ish when we wanted to get crunk to go beat a Bish down we would listen to “Tell Her”…. Good times, good times! LOL!

        Go give her a listen if you haven’t. I promise the hood-rat-ishness won’t rub off….. well at least not too much!

        And Panama I dont appreciate being labeled a Hoodrat! Those allegations have neva been proven true. Jury is still out on the matta. Therefore I will neither confirm nor deny these Defaming Allegations. :-) Thanks and that is all!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      All of y’all need some learnin’ in your life. i rebuke ye in the name of hoodrats everywhere for forsaking their patron saint of inspiration.

      I REBUKE THEE.

  • http://www.twitter.com/makinghisstory Evan McAuthur Kane
    • 2011k

      :)

    • http://wewereninjas.wordpress.com/ Jay

      I was introduced to Teedra by… yeah, a hoodrat. She’s got a couple of good songs with Saadiq. And although I have never heard the album in question, I can unequivocally say that, THAT, has got to be the best part.

    • http://twitter.com/kjnetic peter parker

      puttin’ up assists like J. Kidd…

      *pounds*

      • http://www.twitter.com/makinghisstory Evan McAuthur Kane

        i’m an ambassador…i do it for the people.

        [pounds all around.]

    • Sea Jay Bee

      I’ll be on time for that!

    • Maximillian

      Word. Life.

    • MrExcelsior

      Niiiice (c) Fab

  • http://ThinkPrettySmart.typepad.com Ms. Smart

    Where’s Keyshia Cole? I mean her first name is remarkably hood and she had Too Short on a song. She has to at least be in the same genre as Tedra.

    • IsOurChildrenLearning?

      I guess Teedra was the trailblazer

    • 2011k

      Not only is her first name hood, but she has a middle name….that RHYMES!! Keyshia Myeshia Cole…. #TheMoreYouKnow

      • Sea Jay Bee

        It’s all over now…I’m done

      • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        LMAO. Seussian arse name.

      • http://www.alovelydai.com Alovelydai

        @2011K

        You HAVE to be joking right now!

      • http://ThinkPrettySmart.typepad.com Ms. Smart

        Aw hell naw!

      • Lina

        Can’t. Stop. Laughing.

    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

      Yeah and Mary J…I thought for sure these 2 would be on the Hoodrat R&B list. I love me some Keyshia and Mary J.

      Judge me. lol

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      Keyshia came later and def perfected the artform. same with jazmine sullivan. i think they’re like the dutchesses or something.

      • http://ThinkPrettySmart.typepad.com Ms. Smart

        Time out! Jazmine is on the list. Why? Cus she was causing property damage and has a ‘z’ in her name?

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          no, cuz when i hear her songs i automatically think there’s a hoodrat out there in tears and procliaiming that jazmine gets her. maybe you do too…maybe you’re a hoodrat.

  • http://www.bellesandgentssociety.com Myssdee

    This was funny. It was a good read.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      thank you. its good that you read it.

  • sheeeeit

    Adina Howard?? anyone??

    • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

      before lil kim she laid the groundwork for ho*s and jumpoffs. now its ok to admit you like head :)

    • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

      You got a point!

    • http://twitter.com/#!/fiveisthenumber fiveisthenumber

      I see your Adina and raise you a Syleena Johnson…She got Chapters of hood shit!

      • http://wewereninjas.wordpress.com/ Jay

        What about the new breed… Nivea anyone?? Olivia… and the girl singing the hook on this song, which takes the cake btw….

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=285623c2mVU&oref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fresults%3Fsearch_query%3Ddon%2527t%2Bcum%2Bin%2Bme%26aq%3Df&has_verified=1

        • Lina

          o.0 i couldn’t get past the first chorus, wow.

        • http://musicmakesmehigh.wordpress.com Reecie

          forgot all about Nivea! I think she did set the genre off. and she wears rainbow colored hair. and has kids by Lil Wayne AND The Dream. lol

          • Superior Motherload

            Soo True! Queen of the Hood is “don’t mess with my man, I’ma be the one to break it to ya” Nivea.

      • DG

        I see your Syleena J., and raise you a Patra…hoodrat R&B/dancehall

        #playing4keeps

        • Sea Jay Bee

          I see your Patra and raise you a Khia! “My neck, my back…”

    • http://uphereoncloud9.com Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

      Millie Jackson’s vulgar a** was putting in work before Frankie started smoking crack. She laid the ground work for a genre that wouldn’t pop off for decades.

      • miss t-lee

        Agreed. Millie was whylin’ out in the 70s.
        Especially “The Rap”. Tell me that ain’t hood rat ish!

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        Millie Jackson def doesnt get the props..but i’m not sure i’d throw her or any of the others named like Shirley Murdock or Shirley Brown considering how they have songs that count. And hell there are tons of old school R&B women singers with raunchy songs. they’re just on obscure labels. but we can run them down too.

      • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

        As always, you come with an excellent addition, Wu! Agreed.

    • http://brotherjamesthetastemaker.tumblr.com ChaoticDiva

      Yeah, I still bump “Freak Like Me”. Don’t judge, that’s my song.

      • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

        Until the day until the dawwwwwwwn….Me too girlie. That’s my era.

    • Deeds

      Anyone remember Mokenstef or Monifah. Just those names alone, and you know they’re singing some hoodrat thangs.

      • Sea Jay Bee

        Monifah was fine but she did have the tattoo and mouth piercing game in lock so she definitely has at least a part of the hoodrat uniform

      • Jumping from The Ivory Tower

        He’s Mine (you may have had him once but i got him all the time!!!) I can’t abide music with messages like this, but I do remember that song :)

      • Maximillian

        I dated a girl who looked JUST like Monifah.

        That’s it. No other appeal or anything. And yes, she was mad hood…

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        man, even my mother hated the “mokensteff” song. like HATED IT. i remember the first time she heard it b/c she turned off the radio and went on a rant to me and my sister in the car. lol. now that i look back apparently that was personal.

      • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

        yeah, I messes with Mokenstef. I can’t get with the song’s msg, but the beat was hot

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      i’d give adina howard the credit if she had more than two songs anybody could name. though “tshirt and my panties on” (or whatever the actual title was) goes hard in the paint.

      • Jumping from the Ivory Tower

        Freak Like Me
        TShirt
        Strawberries (cool song)

        Place credit HERE :)

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          stop it. lol strawberries does not count.

          • Jumping from the Ivory Tower

            :-D

        • StillSuga

          Wasn’t Strawberries by Smooth?

          • Jumping from the Ivory Tower

            yes… *hang’s head in shame* But it made for a good laugh, right? right??? Right. ;-)

            Happy Friday!

      • niesha

        adina howard. nasty grind anyone?

    • Vanity in Peril

      Just fell the eff out @ Adina Howard. She was rough, rugged and well… raw.

      Don’t know who Teedra is.

  • filthy.

    I can’t even dispute any of this as a Teedra fan. LOL. Some of the hoodrat etiquette gave me pause, but I still rock to it.

  • sheeeeit

    also, i think she gets lumped in the neosoul category a lot, but jazmine sullivan isn’t fooling me! between busting windows out of cars and strapping ninja’s into bombs timed to “10 seconds” she’s really kind of hood. i see you jazmine.

    • Kema

      Hmmm… I never thought of Jazmine Sullivan as neosoul. I thought she was the new Mary.

      • Mo-VSS

        I HATE Jazmine Sullivan’s music. Her voice? Banging…her musical selections? Atrocious!

        She is a hoodrat for sure.

        • MochaDiva

          Yes Jazmine Sullivan can sing her behind off, & maybe its just because Im from Philly but I have to let it be known that originally she was groomed to be a soul diva similar to Aretha, but lately she’s been marketed to be in Mary’s shadow, (which i really believe helped keep Mary relevant to the newer generation)

          It may sound crazy but I dont know if anyone remembered her making comments on twitter about her leaving the biz for awhile. And I think its good so that when she comes back out she can do her instead of being forced to follow a formula (further cementing Mary’s legacy)….in fact she is a very talented songwriter.\

          And Teedra’s voice is so smooth & velvety I could listen to her sing no matter what she is saying and from her images, she does look more refined compared to a Keisha Cole or mary J

        • http://uphereoncloud9.com Wu Young, Agent of M.E.

          She’s essentially the female Dave Hollister. Amazing voice with not a damn thing to say.

          • http://www.thefriendraiser.com jenifer daniels

            ding ding ding!

          • mr_b_ez25

            hey now dave hollister do…nevemind ur rite *heads back to corner, head hung in shame*. he still a baaad, baaad man though!

        • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

          Yeah I gotta cosign on Jazmine. I never was a fan. She’s a bit extra with it.

          • miss t-lee

            Only a “a bit extra”?
            I can’t take that chick seriously…at all.

    • Sea Jay Bee

      Senator Clay Davis, any woman talking about busting windows and detonating explosives is waaaay beyond hoodrat, she is murdurously crazy!

      When you saw the woman busting the windshield of the wrong guy’s Camry in Barbershop (assuming you saw it because I have learned recently on this site that not everyone watches black films), you didn’t immediately think “Oh, this hoodrat chick right here” you think “Whoa! Someone get this crazy woman because I’m too scared to touch her! Put the bat down baby…put it down….”.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      jazmine sullivan is hoodrat music thru and thru.