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How Taylor Swift Is The Most Dangerous Type Of White Woman, Explained

Who is Taylor Swift?

Taylor Swift is a transubstantiated vision board curation of inspirational quotes who happens to be perhaps the world’s most famous White woman. She’s also Snapchat. (To me at least.)

She’s Snapchat? What do you mean?

I recognize that Snapchat is a thing that is a very popular thing. I am not unaware of its function and cultural relevance. But I have no interest whatsoever in learning more about it. Even if that knowledge might benefit me. I’ve officially opted out of Snapchat.

These feelings kinda, sorta mirror my thoughts about Taylor Swift. I know she is a very popular and important singer of songs and writer of songs. But if you put a gun to my head and asked me to name five Taylor Swift songs, I’d be confused that your choice to shoot me was based on such arbitrarily specific criteria. And then I’d wonder how you even got into my house. And how my bitch-ass pit bull allowed you to come upstairs without even barking. But then you’d have to shoot me. Because aside from some song that I think is called “Shake It Off” or something, I couldn’t name any.

I could however name people she’s been romantically linked to. Right now she’s with the emo guy from Thor. Before that she was with the producer dude who I always assumed was Black because he has a Black-sounding name. (And apparently that’s not even his real name! And apparently he chose that name specifically because its Black sounding!) And there’s also the werewolf guy from Twilight. And then there’s…eh, nevermind. You don’t really care about all of this. And neither do I. She’s rich and famous so she dates rich and famous men. Whatever.

Thank you for cutting that paragraph short. I was thisclose to dozing off. So anyway, why is she in the news today?

Earlier this year, Kanye West released an album that everyone cared about for like five weeks. But now, five months later, the only song on it that still matters is a song (“Panda”) that wasn’t even his song. This is an awkward time on Yeezus Island.

Anyway, on that album was a song (“Famous”) that began with the following lines:

For all my Southside niggas that know me best
I feel like me and Taylor might still have sex
Why? I made that bitch famous

Taylor, of course, is Taylor Swift. The “made that bitch famous” part is a reference to Kanye’s infamous interruption of Swift’s Best Female Video acceptance speech at the 2009 VMAs.

Why would Kanye even put that on his album? I thought he wanted everyone to like him?

Every once in a while, my seven-month-old daughter will spit in my face when I’m holding her. And then she’ll laugh, baring both of her tiny-ass teeth like it’s the funniest thing ever. I was perplexed about it at first. (“Why does it always hit me in my right eye?” “Is there a pattern for this? Does she only do it Wednesday? Or after she’s eaten avocado? Is this her way of expressing her distaste for avocado?“) Until I just decided not to be perplexed anymore because she’s seven months old and there’s literally no “reason” that would make any sense.

This is how I feel about attempting to determine Kanye’s motives for doing things.

I see. So, how did Taylor take it?

Naturally, Taylor Swift took it TaylorSwiftly. Never one to pass up an opportunity to make herself a martyr, Swift alluded to Kanye and “Famous” during her Album of the Year acceptance speech at this year’s Grammys.

“As the first woman to win album of the year at the Grammys twice, I want to say to all the young women out there: There are going to be people along the way who will try to undercut your success or take credit for your accomplishments or your fame”

No one is better at this type of specifically White female performative faux melodrama — where status is cultivated and maintained through a state of perpetual exaggerated victimhood (which everyone laps up because “sad White woman” = “Let’s find our fucking capes and save her!”) — than she is.

You know that co-worker (let’s call her “Susan”) who somehow managed to use her offense at a minor breach in email etiquette (someone forgot to put an exclamation point on a sentence, which made Susan “interpret” it as a “threat”) as fuel for a raise and a promotion? 

Taylor Swift is Darth Susan.

Kanye, however, would later tweet that he actually reached out to Taylor about the lyric before incorporating it in his song. And that she thought it was funny and was cool with it.

Which suggests the following:

1.  They’re friends. Or, rather, friendly enough to have this conversation.

2. The entire Grammy speech was an act.

3. She’s more than willing to throw a friend under the bus for the opportunity to performative martyr.

Of course, Taylor vehemently denied that this conversation ever happened. And, of course, most of the country seemed to believe Taylor. Because Kanye is the scary Black dude. And Taylor, again, is Darth Susan.

So what happened next?

One advantage I presume of being romantically involved with a Kardashian is that everything seems to be recorded. Conversations, weddings, grocery shopping, sex, shits — everything. Which means you’ll never have to go without receipts. “Kardashian” is actually Swahili for “White woman with receipts.” And since Kim has all the receipts, she released footage of Taylor Swift doing exactly what Kanye said she did. Agreeing to the lyrics and expressing her appreciation that Kanye reached out first before publishing them.

So she was caught in a boldfaced lie, huh? How did she respond?

With a statement — a statement that suspiciously seems prewritten — where she expressed that she never said she didn’t talk to him (a lie) and never agreed to Kanye’s use of “bitch.”

Do you believe her?

No. She needs more people. Like, imagine the longest TSA line you’ve ever seen. She needs all of those people. Plus each of those people’s peoples.

In fact, not only do I not believe her, I believe she’s exposed herself as one of the most dangerous types of White woman.

Dangerous? How?

The stakes here are relatively low. Perhaps there might be some legal involvement because of California privacy laws, but ultimately this involves three unfathomably rich and famous and annoying people who will continue to be unfathomably rich and famous and annoying. But what Taylor did is a form of what Darth Susans have been doing since America’s inception. Using the inherent empathy and benefit of the doubt her White womanhood allows her to possess — plus the reflexive need to protect and preserve the sanctity of said White womanhood at all costs — to throw a Black person under the bus if necessary and convenient.

In 2016, Darth Susans get people fired. In 1916, Darth Susans got people lynched.

What happens next?

She’ll produce an album about this, win a bunch of awards, and have her Grammy acceptance speech interrupted by North West throwing a sippy cup at her. A sippy cup filled with…Lemonade! Because poetic justice.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • Ari

    “In 1916, Darth Susans got people lynched.” And towns burned all the way to the damn ground.

    We’ve been saying this about TS for years, but I truly underestimated the number of fans she has over 21. I had no idea.

    • Bah Debo

      I get the fandom. Her music is scary catchy….but there’s always been something about her that has caused me to refuse to enjoy it.

      • Ari

        And for the record, Kanye still ain’t sh*t, permission or no permission. But TS has a different more dangerous type of aint sh*tness.

        • That’s what I don’t understand. He went on record and called her a b*tch he made famous and that’s still ok?

          • Bah Debo

            I don’t think anyone is implying that lyric is ok….and let’s be honest….there is much worse said in hip hop erryday
            …and I love hip hop and will always love hip hop, among many other forms of music

            • To be fair I don’t think any of that should pass either but black men have always thrown women under the bus in hip hop. However, I won’t try to put my hat in the ring for that battle because I know how much people want to protect hip hop at all costs

          • Ari

            Unfortunately I think that message gets lost in all of the drama.

          • mssporadic

            Nothing about this whole ordeal between the two of them is okay, but she’s being as manipulative as Kanye and pretending she’s a sweet innocent little girl. If you heard the lyrics and agreed to them, then don’t throw him under the bus at the Grammy’s. She took everyone’s reaction to that song as good PR for her and ran with it.

            • I’m not here to cape up for Taylor or Kanye but I’m also not going to sit up here and act like Kanye is some innocent party who doesn’t enjoy having his name attached to anything for the sake of the drama of it all. It’s all just extra press for he and Kim’s brand either way.

      • Michael

        Agreed her hooks are addictive but she always gives me that “she swears” persona. Like she knows she’s the sh**, like she can do what she wants and get away with it. Like girl you’re only the “it girl” because America has horrible taste and scary bad judgement

    • mssporadic

      You shouldn’t. I have friend almost 40 that attends every TS concert with her over 40 hubby.

      • Ari

        Crazy.

      • Epsilonicus

        Wow. I know over 40 folks who take their kids but never knew of any who went without their kids.

      • Annalise Keating

        Is she black?

        • mssporadic

          Most definitely NOT. I don’t know any black people that like Taylor.

      • Mochasister

        That sounds like a category for Family Feud. Name something you should have left behind in childhood but your old behind still does anyway.

  • Bah Debo

    I knew this chick was super shady from the get go……so glad it’s slowly coming to light. Kanye is Kanye, but to purposefully elicit the sympathy of the masses for your own progression is some Darth Maul type ish.
    We see you T. Swift…we’ve always seen you.

    • Ari

      Always.

    • cakes_and_pies

      Last year, I read a comment that said something to the fact that “She’s a teenager, leave her alone.”
      To which another commentor retorted “She’s 25?!

      She has that “Who, me?!” act down packed.

      • Bah Debo

        Exactly. Manufactured and packaged to perfection.

      • LMNOP

        It’s a classic white woman shtick.

      • PinkRose

        They ALL do.

      • Medium Meech

        Taylor Swift since she started her career at 11. In fact, she hasn’t been a person since then, just a well manicured brand. She moved from Pennsylvania to Nashville to be a country singer as a kid… she doesn’t do anything resembling country anymore. In short, she has a track record of letting opportunity dictate her identity.

        • Epsilonicus

          “In short, she has a track record of letting opportunity dictate her identity.”

          Very good point

        • lulubella

          Haha, dying: “In fact, she hasn’t been a person since then,”

      • Mochasister

        The little miss innocent act is annoying. I can see why someone thought she was a teenager. Hanging out all the time with her girl squad. Sing out breakups instead of writing in a journal or having a gables the with the girls. She does come off as a little immature.

    • Niecy

      Would you say, you knew she was trouble when she walked in?

      • Bah Debo

        …………………….stop it.

      • Jeaux

        Hahahha ? Ohhhhh, is that HER song?!

  • I will be elated when Kanye, his wife and Taylor fade into obscurity. In rap news that’s actually exciting, Rapsody just signed to Roc Nation!!!

    • Julian Green

      I really hope she doesn’t get lost on the shelf.

      • I think Rapsody will do well now that she will have a larger platform. She is a stellar MC

        • Bah Debo

          Agreed…Rhapsody.

        • Julian Green

          Rapsody. Don’t wanna end up like Rita Ora.

          • miss t-lee

            Exactly.

          • Rita Ora has no talent. Not comparable.

            • HouseOfBonnets

              I was literally about to say this lol

              • Even when she was “active” I had no idea who she was or any music she was supposedly making. Another racially ambiguous girl with a halfway pretty face. That formula is old and it isn’t making labels as much money as it used to.

                • Michael

                  Yes Roc Nation consistently tried to make her a thing and she’s not, she never will be. I enjoyed maybe one her songs “I will never let you down” (which was written and produced by Calvin Harris )but any mediocre, bland, milquetoast run of the mill singer could’ve sung it and I would’ve liked it.

            • Proverbs31WIFE!

              Her talent is having perfect red lips.

    • miss t-lee

      That’s either gonna be really good, or really bad for her.
      No in between.

      • I don’t think 9th Wonder would let her crash and burn even though he isn’t under her tutelage anymore.

        • miss t-lee

          And…there’s the rub.

        • PriceIsRightHorns

          I love 9th Wonder!

          • Hometown hero! He brought her down to do a set last summer in my city and it was magical.

            • DBoySlim

              My brother met him in the food court at NC Central. The things you see on a grad school tour.

              • I love that he didn’t get all “Hollywood” on NC once he made it

    • cakes_and_pies

      I still listen to Thank H.E.R. Now The bet not screw her over.

    • HouseOfBonnets

      I heard, i’ve been a fan for a while now :)

    • DBoySlim

      Word?!

    • PhlyyPhree

      Re: Rapsody
      I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing. Seems like Roc Nation is going the way of Bad Boy and turning into a black hole for artists.

      • I think Roc Nation is the type of label where you’re expecting to do for self and run your own music how you so fit, with limits. J. Cole is evidence of this.

        • PhlyyPhree

          Maybe. In terms of creative control, I could definitely agree with that. But in terms of promotion and artist management? I don’t see that label doing enough to help the artists who need that type of thing. I get that in this new age, artists are expected to build their own buzz, but then what’s the point of signing to a label if you have to do EVUHRYTHING yourself? Might as well go the Chance route and hope for the best.

      • Negro Libre

        I heard they just picked up Tiwa Savage as well.

        • PhlyyPhree

          ??? Not hip. Gonna have to go look her up. She’s gorgeous, but as of now? That’s all I got.
          Thank you for the new find though…. well, let me listen and THEN maybe I’ll thank you. Lol

        • MsSula

          I heard the same thing. I hope it doesn’t mean an Americanization of her songs. I like her Afrobeat songs.

  • PriceIsRightHorns

    I didn’t know the story behind Calvin Harris’ name. He’s doing the MOST with that.

    • miss t-lee

      Which sucks, because I really like dude’s music. After reading that story though…he’s gotten nothing but side eye.

      • PriceIsRightHorns

        I’m not familiar with his music and due to the tacky nature of the “stage name,” I think I’ll pass.

        • miss t-lee

          If you like dance/EDM he’s really good.Although I like his earlier stuff rather than his newer stuff.

          • PriceIsRightHorns

            I’m more into deep house/house, but I trust your judgment so I’m sure he’s good.

            • miss t-lee

              If you wish…check out his I Created Disco album. It’s a fave.

              • PriceIsRightHorns

                I sampled a couple of songs and they were good – the vibe reminds me of Depeche Mode a little bit.

                • miss t-lee

                  Yep. Love them too! :)

            • Kas

              What do you know about Deep House?

              • PriceIsRightHorns

                EVERYTHING, lol.

              • miss t-lee

                Plennay.

              • It’s hot. Didn’t realize what I was missing with deep house till my brother put me on.

                • Kas

                  Yes indeedy! Deep House is what got me married. If I hadn’t been chasing around Winter Music Conference in Miami, I never would have met my now wife.

                  • PriceIsRightHorns

                    A DJ friend from Chicago got me into the rare classics and I’ve been collecting it ever since.

                    I had a family reunion in Illinois over the Fourth of July weekend. After participating in family activities on Friday and Saturday, I broke free on Sunday, caught up with my girls and we made our way to the Chosen Few DJs Old School event at Jackson Park.

        • Malaika Jabali

          His songs are everywhere, so most likely you are familiar and didn’t realize it. He did some Rihanna mega hits, among other things. Including We Found Love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg00YEETFzg

          • PriceIsRightHorns

            Oh ok. I’m sure I’ve heard some of his music and just didn’t pay attention to all of the artists involved or production credits.

            • miss t-lee

              Yeah, he’s been on a ton of pop songs.
              Here’s another popular one.

              https://youtu.be/ebXbLfLACGM

              • PriceIsRightHorns

                I miss most of the pop music hits because I rarely listen to the radio. I rock with about five channels of Musuc Choice, my own catalog and your Spotify tweets, lol.

                • miss t-lee

                  I end up hearing them in commercials and in the stores…lol

  • PinkRose

    This is especially for Black women in work/school environments, just wait until Darth Susan gets to middle age when you’re still looking 25 and she’s looking 65. H ell hath no fury like Becky with wrinkles!

    • ChokeOnThisTea

      I’m weak! ?

      One literally just expressed shock a few moments ago at the fact that I’m 30. She thought I was 19/20. No, sweetie. I’m Black.

      • PinkRose

        I get the “you must have had your kid in high school” or some variation of that MUCH more than I should from wypipo, especially women.

        • laddibugg

          A lot of people have told me I’m lucky to be a young mother (my little guy is 3 months) Never quite sure if they are insinuating I’m too young, but at any rate I’m much older than I apparently look…I’m 37…these eggs are close to being fossilized!

          • PinkRose

            Not the fossilized eggs, LOL!! Just a word of advice, don’t count on that especially as you get older. This is yet another one of those things Black women have over other women is fertility waaaayyyy past “prime”!!

            • Cleojonz

              Word. I’m STILL fertile Myrtle. I don’t play around with these here pills, not matter WHERE I am when that alarm goes off.

              • Darren Nesbitt

                Fertile Myrtle. ha!

              • Mochasister

                My mother told me it used to be very common for Black women to have kids up into their fifties.

                • Luís Guilherme

                  My mom is 56 and her medical exams show no sign of menopause. Grandma’s lily white (Portuguese, Swiss and Pole) with a single Brazilian great-grandparent (of hers) who was black, grandpa was a Portuguese, Spaniard, black and Indigenous Brazilian mix (25% Puri, he also was strongly Aymoré), he looked fairly Indigenous as a youth but died rather to the darker end of copper brown. Me and mom look fairly obviously South American/Indigenous American, but if people were to guess something else we’d be Middle Eastern (particularly Kurdish or Persian in her case, Turkish or Levantine Arab in mine), then Eastern European, then she’d be South Asian and I’d be Pacific Islander. Since only a small amount of African blood makes people look fairly Afro-Brazilian (Neguinho da Beija-Flor being 70% European), either 1. she’s a very good example of recessive genes done right, 2. these also exists in other populations or 3. my family is more black than we look like.

                  • Mochasister

                    My comment does not imply that women of other heritages, mixed or otherwise, cannot bear women past a certain age as well. I am aware of that fact. Congratulations, I guess, on your mother’s prolonged fecundity.

                  • PinkRose

                    Try door #3, people with African genes can somtimes look another race completely.

                • Cleojonz

                  This would be my misfortune…uh luck. :) I had a nightmare the other day that I had surprise quadruplets.

              • You and me both hunty.

              • Thicklynn2000

                I’m 52 and still having a period regular as clock work. My doctor keeps telling me she hopes I will stop in a year. I told her that I didn’t want to be buying tampons when I’m 60!!

                • Cleojonz

                  OMG I would die! It’s the worst part of it all.

            • Edith Spencer

              Everyone- listen to her! YIKES! I have had a scan of my ovaries and they are STILL JAM PACKED. It’s crazy!

              • PinkRose

                I mean I up voted this comment, but I really don’t know why because with an EMPTY nest (hallelujer!!!!), I’d be HORRIFIED to see Ms. Jackson in the maternity suite.

                • I’ve been peri menopausal since I was 35… still can get pregnant although I miscarried in 2014.

                  • Blueberry01

                    Negra, I’m sorry to hear about your loss.

                  • Mochasister

                    I’m sorry Negra.

                  • PinkRose

                    Hugs to you!!

              • lulubella

                Haha, “Jam Packed Ovaries” is the new 40!

              • My Grandmother had my father at 45. Her mother had her at 43. I tied these tubes up, and still got pregnant this fertility biz is no joke and at 37 with 4 kids my husband NEEDS a vasectomy because I’m not finna be a 45 pregnant woman. Nah.

                • Mochasister

                  Your family sounds like my father’s family. My grandmother didn’t have her first child (my father) until she was forty. And she and my grandfather had been married for a while. They just assumed they couldn’t have kids. She then turned around and gave birth to my uncle at the age of forty-three.

                • L8Comer

                  Wow, my family history is the same. I hope I get some of that cuz Im tryna hold off kids for a while

                • Blueberry01

                  Yeah, girl. One of the assistants at my doctor’s office just had twins at 45. She already has five kids.

                  • Mochasister

                    DAMN!! Said in Ice Cube and Chris Tucker’s voices from Friday.

                    • Blueberry01

                      Lol! Yup, twin boys. Cutest little babies, too.

                  • Nooooooooooooo, that’s the worst news!

                • grownandsexy2

                  You gotta get a tubal ligation, the cutting and electrocauterizing. I didn’t even try to mess around with getting them tied because of stories like yours.

                  • They call it a tie but them joints got cauterized. They mercifully didn’t grow back so the pregnant was misdirected and I couldn’t carry it. Thankfully! (5 is tew mech)

              • Doll Parts

                My dad’s ex-wife had a kid with her new husband at 51. SURPRISE!

                • Edith Spencer

                  Oh holy moly!

            • Kelly White Prioleau

              I know that’s right! I’m 47 and Peri menopausal but was just told I’m fertile like Myrtle!! And most people think me and my daughter are sisters….black don’t crack ?

              • HoobaStankyLeg

                My mom kissed me on the lips in public and some random dude came up and was like: Y’all need some D? My mother proceeded to cuss him smooth the fuck out…..Why do old ladies always wanna kiss on the mouth?

                • Mochasister

                  Ughh, just ugh. Nasty b******!

            • laddibugg

              Well, hopefully that’s true. We’re going to actively try for another one in 3 years when I’m 40. (this one was a ‘we’ll see what happens’ baby lol)

          • Blueberry01

            My sister had get first born at 39 and he’s completely healthy.

        • Nicole

          Most of these wypipo are ignant! Just straight up ignant!

          • Mochasister

            Or willfully obtuse. It’s a toss up between the two.

        • Question

          The shade-laden pseudo-concern is the best!

          “Oh, since you started so young, how did that affect your education and career plans?”.

          • PinkRose

            And if you really want to mess them up, mention you were married AND college educated BEFORE you had a kid.

            • Question

              Nah, I ask for clarification.

              “What do you mean?”

              • charisma_supreme

                I personally love the back peddle that follows. Tripping on feet to run up out that conversation

                • MsGolightly

                  If you ask the question benignly enough, you actually get a doubling-down on the racial stereotypes? “Well you know – what I mean is – well I was just thinking, because I heard that…and read…and you just look so young…and I dunno…well, what does your partner do for a living?”

                  “You mean what does my husband do for a living? Is that what you’re asking me?”

                  “Well, you know…what I mean is – well I was just thinking, well I read that…and you look so young…and I dunno…”

                  • Blueberry01

                    Let them sweat, girl!

                    • Mochasister

                      Yep. I love to see them bullets come flying out as they realize what they said with their ole presumptuous selves.

              • Blueberry01

                Perfect! It forces them to confront their ignorance and decide whether they want to embarrass themselves further by actually providing clarification.

              • Chintiki DashRod ?

                Yes! The perfect response to ignorance.

            • Blueberry01

              They’d be thinking that Jesus was coming back right after you said that!

          • Blueberry01

            You should have said #ShutupJan

        • Honeybrown1976

          I got the “Calculates son’s age from mine to assume I had him as a teen” variation. Nope. I was an adult.

        • NicT

          Oh, this happened to me when I was in high school. My mom was nearly 50 and I was 17 (first born) and some bish at a scholarship lunch said I had such a young mom, she could barely tell who was the mom and who was the daughter. I nearly called her a dried up crone to her face.

        • HoneyRose

          My mother gets it all the time when she shows up with me in public. She had me at 25. Or people legit think she’s an older sister. She’s 55.

          • PinkRose

            Yasss! Mothers LOVE it, but daughters not so much, LOL!!!!

          • Mochasister

            I’ve had people mistake my mother for my sister. One time when I was eighteen someone asked if my father was my boyfriend. I was not amused.

            • Blueberry01

              Yuck!

              I hate when people assume that my brother and I are dating because we don’t look alike.

              • Mochasister

                I see your following in the footsteps of Val! Yuck indeed. I think the person thought it was more like a sugar daddy/sugar baby type situation. I mean for what other reason could a young woman be with an obviously older man (Hey, my father is Black and looked great for his age at the time but he didn’t look that great!)?! You know how the worst is always assumed about Black people.

                • Blueberry01

                  Yes, Mo. I am standing in solidarity in an affront to the VSBs who claim that Samuel L. Jackson is their avitar leader! Lol. Feel free to join! #WeShallNotBeMoved

                  And yuck to the sugar baby assumption. I never really understood those situations.

        • grownandsexy2

          Sounds familiar. I got the “so you decided to start your family young?” She thought I was 19, when in fact I was 29. And it never stops.

        • Jihane Mirode

          So true. Recently I went to a white friend’s party at her house. The only non white people were I and my friend’s little cousins who are mixed black-white. Those kids were there with their white aunt ; the boy is 10, and the girl is 8. For the record, I’m 21, and I’m told all the time that I look younger than that. At some point, some white woman asked me if I was the mother of these 2 children. On the outside I remained very polite and told her no, those are my friend’s cousins. But on the inside I was like “Bitch, what ?” Obviously, I had to be stuck with a 10 year old and an 8 year old at the age of 21.

          • Mochasister

            Yeah, well you know wypipo think all Black women were born with mattresses attached to our backs. Black children tend to get sexualized early in this society; our innocence is over by the time we hit third grade.

            • Jessie

              I can attest to this! It’s so funny that you said 3rd grade, because people were confusing me for a 13-15 yr old back then. I’m 20 now, and when I think back on all the times people have confused my 5’2″ self for a grown woman, I kind of feel like my childhood wasn’t allowed to just be without being called into question all the time.

              • Mochasister

                What idiot confuses a 3rd grader with a thirteen or fifteen year old?! I work with kids every day; some of the 5th or 6th graders do look mature for their age and can pass for teenagers. Most 3rd graders can’t. I get tired of people always trying to grow Black kids up before their time.

      • La’Marisa-Andrea

        I actually told a Becky with wrinkles that was my secret to my ageless face recently. She was like “your skin is amazing, what do you use?” I said “well…I’m black.”

        • Arlene

          I just say the secret is melanin.

          • Beverly Hackler

            <<o. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????:::::::!be677p:….,….

          • MegaGorgo

            SHUSH!!! Asian melanin very powerful.

          • Blueberry01

            White people should try to steal our melanin instead of our culture. I’m sure they’d be better off…

            • Mic Mecca

              All those missing black people.

              That’s melanin thief!

              • Sandra Apple

                <<o. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????:::::::!bc58p:….,…

            • Sinta Giles

              They ARE stealing it. Straight out of Africa, killing people and taking out their organs, including the pineal gland, the producer of melanin.

              • stoogel

                Melanin is produced in cells within the lowest layer of the epidermis, fool.

              • Angel Baby

                what?! What are they doing with it?

              • Kat

                Pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps you get to sleep. Melanin is produced by melanocytes (which I guess could still be taken!)

            • John M. Williams

              If they steal our culture, who cares..that is a compliment. We don’t have a copyright on it. Considering Black folks are almost on the lowest rung of society in terms of quality of life, I don’t think White people are really trying to be like us.

              • Mochasister

                I wouldn’t consider that a compliment. In fact I find it insulting. I agree with you on the hierarchy in society. When people at the highest rung demean and mock a culture and its people and then turn around and copy and profit off of said culture, that’s insulting. And hypocritical.

              • Blueberry01

                #SureDarthTommy

                • Junegirl627

                  wow (0_0)

              • Jalabar

                Ok, first you need to define a culture. I saw a white person get harassed by black folks because he had dreadlocks. Dreadlocks originated in ancient Greece, were worn by the earliest Christians, and have been worn by people from Sparta to Egypt to Niger so blacks that wear them are stealing from other cultures to start with. Most blacks that wear them in the US are stealing them from a Jamaican culture that is also not theirs. I do not believe skin color alone defines culture. If something is part of the culture in Zaire, that does not make it part of black American culture. Something the Tutsis do in Rwanda is no more part of the black kid in Harlem’s culture than it is the white kid in Scarsdale’s culture, unless that black kid in Harlem IS a Rwandan immigrant.

            • Kay Matthew

              Well they kinda do when they have kids with black men. That’s none of my business though.

            • Mochasister

              You know they’re studying melanin and its benefits? If they could somehow bottle it up and use it for themselves (minus all the perils that come from having darker skin), they would.

            • graymatters

              We do. But we end up orange, like oversized oompa-loompas. And instead of making a summery dress look good, we make it look dirty and streaky with fake-tan crap. I’m holding the wrinkles at bay by an extra-protective layer of subdermal fat, instead. This also has the advantage of being a flotation device in case of accidentially thinking that swimming would be a good exercise.

            • TheyCallMeBruce

              If we could, we probably would have by now.

              • Blueberry01

                The interesting thing is that despite your sarcasm, I’m totally convinced that y’all would.

            • citizenhigher

              many TYPES of white jerk.

              SOME whites are GOLDEN FOOL

              • Blueberry01

                ???

                Can you please repeat what you’re trying to say?

            • Grace Lekan

              they already do. Thousands of Black people go “missing” every year. Melanin is worth more than gold by the ounce. Look it up.

              • Blueberry01

                Ha!

              • Mochasister

                What do they do with it?

            • Chintiki DashRod ?

              Bruh. Melanin is being sold on amazon

              • Kat

                Pineal gland produces melatonin, which helps you get to sleep. That is what you see being sold on Amazon. Melanin is not (yet) sold that way

            • Tails the Foxhound

              There was an X-Files episode about that. ?

              • Blueberry01

                Really? Lol!

                • Tails the Foxhound

                  Yeah, there was this ancient African being/spirit that would suck all the melanin out of a black person’s brain for sustenance with a wooden straw. They ended up looking like they suffered from severe albanisim. Somehow or another he got shipped stateside.

                  • Blueberry01

                    Shoutout to your AVI!

                    I’m still a beast in Sonic 1 and I love playing Sonic 2 with my brother.

            • S. Couch

              They do. It’s called interracial marriage and children. Trust me, they steal everything.

              • Semiotexte

                The children born of black/white interracial relationships are mostly seen as black so that’s really us taking their “whiteness”.

                • S. Couch

                  When you say “we”, I’m assuming you mean black people, in which case you would be incorrect, because “we” don’t have the power to take someone’s “whiteness” or give it to them, for that matter. Blacks don’t get to decide what or who is white or black; not officially, anyway. White people do. That’s the short answer.

                  In a longer explanation, there was this white guy who hung out with my group of friends every day at school. He played summer basketball with us, came to our sleepovers; and after we grew up, he was the groomsmen in our weddings. Some of my friends made him an “honorary black dude”, as far as we were concerned. He was always seen as a part of my family. We love him. However, no matter how accepting we were of him, like we can’t change our skin, he can’t change his. And I wouldn’t want him to change. I liked that he was so open to our culture and wanted to listen to our music or take on our habits; but the problem comes when we stop acknowledging his heritage as a sign of friendship or acceptance. People are different. And we need to accept them for who they are, even if they are different and not because they act like we do. Black have a problem of emulating white people by “allowing” other races of people to be “one of us” in a society that doesn’t do the same for us, and honestly shouldn’t. I don’t care how many white people I hang out with, no one ever tells me, “Man, you’re so cool. You’re an honorary white person, now.” And they should never say that. They shouldn’t have to say that this person is honorarily black or white just as a way to mean that he REALLY matters and is REALLY accepted, now . He should just be white and matter just like I should be black and matter.

                • S. Couch

                  Any person calling a biracial person black makes no sense biologically, especially when it’s a 50/50 split. They can identify with whatever group they feel closest to; but biologically, they can never fully be either. You couldn’t call the offspring of a lion and tiger just another tiger; they’re different all together, so we call them a liger. The assignment of people with mixed heritage as black uses that association with black people only to remove privilege and practice racism. Otherwise, why not choose to “mostly” call them white, replete with all the privilege?

            • Captain Sarcasticus

              I, for one, am absolutely going to steal “transubstantiated vision board curation of inspirational quotes”.

              Sincerest form of flattery, I swear.

            • United_Dreamer

              They don’t want the other Beckies to turn against them,

          • Lmao@ “where can I buy it?”

          • John

            it literally is. Wrinkles are caused by sun damage in a big way.

        • ComeLetsTalk

          All day, everyday. They know it. All those skincare lines are for their wrinkled prone behinds.

        • NicT

          I’ve done that. I tell them I wake up black every day. Works wonders.

        • SororSalsa

          I enjoy tell wypipo that the secret ingredient that I use on my 45-year old wrinkle-less face is black. The look of confusion makes it all worthwhile.

        • What?

          Pretty ignorant to be referring to white women as “Becky”. You don’t want equality, nor do you don’t want an end to racism. You want to be superior. You want the privelage you have percieved them to have your whole life.

          Which makes it hilarious that you will never have it.

          • Katie

            *braces self for feeding a troll before I’ve had my coffee*

            Read: http://verysmartbrothas.com/where-becky-comes-from-and-why-its-not-racist-explained/

            • What?

              And it’s best to fight fire with fire? Go have your coffee, I’ll still be here with my opinion.

              • Cheryl Christopher

                Still be here with your opinion? And that’s the shame, Shame.

              • Selina Style

                The hilarious part is that you think someone cares about your opinion.

                • What?

                  You’ve all got an entire rack full of bags of chips on your shoulders, obviously.

                  • Skibummin08

                    You are funny…sad and misguided…but funny! What black comedian did you steal that “bag of chips” line from?

            • Mochasister

              Now you know the term Becky is a “racial slur” on par with all the other terms wypipo have created through the years to demean, degrade, and dehumanize entire groups of peoples. S****, g****,ch****, w*******, k******, j***, n******, and now “Becky.”

              • WKYA_Radio

                WTF are u mumbling about…

                sorry no one believes u

                • La Bandita

                  She was being facetious.

                • Katie

                  Pretty sure she was bring sarcastic.

                • Mochasister

                  I don’t comprehend troll, Troll.

              • Junegirl627

                I know i’m not a racist since I can’t identify any of these with only the first letter as a guide

                • Mochasister

                  I’m glad you don’t. They are truly ugly words and I just didn’t want to type the full word out. These are ethnic slurs for Latinos (Mexican), Asians (Japanese, Chinese, and Vietnamese), and Blacks (the ‘n’ word and the South African term). I was trying to point out that “Becky” is not on the same level as these terms. There is not a history of “Becky” being used to demean and degrade the character of white women. Some white people annoy me when they try to equate “Becky” with racial slurs. The poster by the name of What was reaching and failed.

            • Skibummin08

              DAAAAYYUMMM! That was so well said, I had to read it twice!

          • Cheryl Christopher

            Do you actually not realize how arrogant you sound? You’re better than this.

          • Holly Stanton

            Some white people LOVE reverse racism. I bet you guys are giving an award to the person who thought that up. But it’s right up there with the “I’m rubber you’re glue” class of retorts.

            • Mochasister

              I wish that somehow they could be transported to bizarro world and truly experience what it is like to be the other with darker and devalued skin. I’m sure they would come screaming back to the “reverse racism” they “endure” in a society that worships at the altar of whiteness.

            • Blackshear

              Reverse racism is Bill O’rielly driving his car backwards to a Ted Nugent concert.

            • Junegirl627

              especially how they use that term to justify their racism.

          • La’Marisa-Andrea

            Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky.

            • Mochasister

              Man, you should put that in a trap song!

          • La’Marisa-Andrea

            Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky. Becky.

          • La’Marisa-Andrea

            I’m also gonna YOU: Chad. Chad.Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad. Chad.Chad.Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad. Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad. Chad.Chad.Chad.Chad. Chad.

            • Mochasister

              Lol! That’s my brother’s name.

              • La’Marisa-Andrea

                Lol!!!

          • Misha

            This comment is… the epitome of white privilege and absolutely revolting. You think the privilege is perceived… But it’s coming out of your racist mouth. I am ashamed to share the same skin color as you. And I pray to God that one day he shows you your ignorance. But right now you are completely blind.

          • EtomiOne

            Dude,
            “…nor do you don’t want an end to racism.”
            What?!
            “You want the PRIVILEGE you have PERCEIVED them to have your whole life.”
            Um…
            What’s truly hilarious is that it seems the privilege has passed you by, too, Poindexter (white guy)!
            LMBAO
            ?

            • What?

              What’s truly hilarious is that everyone is assuming I am a white guy based on a picture of a god damn Backstreet Boy. Why don’t you do something about the hundreds of thousands of youtube videos depicting black on black violence and stop dragging on this pointless, hypocritical, anti-white rhetoric. You’re a fucking joke to society, and not because of your skin color.

              • Jeff Scott

                Actually, everyone knows you are a white guy because you categorically use the word “they” in your posts all the time–and “I” (you) can never be a member of “they” linguistically speaking.

              • Junegirl627

                you do realize that more whites die because of white on white crime than blacks from black on black crime right. The department of Justice stated that whites Killed 2509 other whites and Blacks killed 2245 other blacks…. So White on White crime is the truly unspoken epidemic…. What are you doing about it what?

        • citizenhigher

          black has NOTHING on ITALIAN WOMEN’S SKIN!!!

          • Ann Burlingham

            well, actually…..

            • hardwhite33

              lol @ black on black violence.

              why dont you do something about white on white violence. or suicide. or rape. or child pedophilia. or larceny. or your drug pushing. or your white collar crimes(which ruined the world economy…yes white people did this). or your massive arrest rate.

              white people are funny.

          • Your Mama

            now this one almost made me spit my milk out.. you all have jokes today. Only italian women who were blessed with nice skin are the ones who are descendants of Hannibal and the Moors, which brings us right back to black.. this coming from someone with roots directly from Naples. You know nothing. the regular euro italians, mostly in the North, are just as white and wrinkly as your little brothers peen. Good day.

      • Honeybrown1976

        Then they want tips on skincare.

        Me: Be black.

        • ChokeOnThisTea

          Yep. Basically. The darker, the better. :)

          • PinkRose

            Which is why I can NOT understand skin lightening!!

        • Mochasister

          Why do they act like they don’t know what to do? Stop getting white girl wasted in high school and college. It’s bad for your liver and skin. Don’t smoke; it’s not cool. Stop baking yourself to death. If you were meant to have melanin, God would have given you some. Eat right, rest, and USE SUNSCREEN!

          • Honeybrown1976

            Nah. They sealed their fate with the dude downstairs. None of that can help them. But, I’ll sit back and watch as they pore hundreds of dollars down the drain on anti-aging crap fighting the inevitable.

            • Mochasister

              But it would help. That’s basically all I’ve done and I get mistaken for being younger all the time. Oh, yeah and I’m Black!

        • NOLA_Darling

          Tell them it’s shea butter and sunscreen Hopeless hope is the cruelest joke.

      • Nik White

        Praise Him!

      • S. Couch

        Beige don’t age, baby!

        • ChokeOnThisTea

          Ain’t nothing beige (or remotely ambiguous) about my blackness. This is the real deal, honey. Ain’t no mixed, bih!! Lol ??

          • S. Couch

            I was talking about me. I’m more beige or brown, but yes, you’re the “real deal”!

      • Zeroed Out

        You know, as a white person… if I say something like that, I have the fear of being called racist. lol

    • catgee12

      DEAD AF!!!!

    • Nicole

      Girl, you ain’t lyin. My boss is a Darth Susan. I am looking for a way out now.

      • PinkRose

        I literally PRAY for your immediate liberation AND emancipation from workplace H ELL!!!

    • charisma_supreme

      Young black women…. esp those who are lone wolves in their work/school habitats… should be been forewarned abt the Darth Xs. It would have a world of stress

      • GoldiKo

        I work in Seattle. I wish someone had warned me :( And don’t even get me started on the people of color who married a Darth Becky and come at me with some type of attitude!

        • charisma_supreme

          I only see those types online. Dude, stop

        • La Bandita

          We need a name for those Black guys to separate them from good Black guys like my husband.

          We can call them Darth Uncle Tommy!!

          We see Black dude and friend becomes interested. No, he’s a Darth Tommy abort! Abort!! Here comes his Darth Becky….

        • T.T.

          I used to work in Seattle so I can attest to this.

        • grownandsexy2

          Philly is full of Darth Becky’s.

      • grownandsexy2

        It’s a rude awakening for sure. Stress ain’t the word.

        • charisma_supreme

          This is an apt description. Shakes your young innocence right on up, esp when you aint done nothing to draw Darth ire other than mind your whole business

          • grownandsexy2

            Yep, nothing in the high school curriculum prepares you for the corporate world and Darth Becky.

      • Liz

        I wish I’d have been warned. Now I’m an expert. We need to teach classes on this.

    • WIN

    • Mochasister

      Boo yah!

    • msanne

      PREACH!!!

    • John Lloyd

      Y’all are getting OD with the racist generalizations

      • Cee Bee

        Look at you, defending the poor white women against the mean, racist black women.

        • Princess

          There will always be someone to do it…lol

        • La Bandita

          A Darth Tommy!!!

        • John Lloyd

          It aint even like that my dear

          • La Bandita

            Yes it is Darth Tommy…

            • singletear

              I can’t take this!!!! lmao

            • Mochasister

              I burst out laughing at this!

              • La Bandita

                When we see a Darth Tommy we have to use our ninja skills to save ourselves. He’s going to use all his resources and strength to help a Darth Becky.

                • Mochasister

                  He better be looking out for himself against these police officers. Darth Tommy and Darth Becky are officially part of my lexicon.

        • JD_Challenger

          More like very paranoid and insecure. But at least you have good reason to be!

      • theshapeofpunktocome

        dude i’m a white girl reading this and i’m getting legit hurt (to be fair, i already have massive insecurities about aging & have since i was 18). i thought about this fact for 30 seconds and was like, “wow, this must be similar to what it’s like to be black and read ANY COMMENTS SECTION EVER.” :<

        • Mochasister

          You’ll be alright. Just lie back and think of all that white privilege you have. As far as the aging: USE SUNSCREEN. Don’t tan. Don’t smoke. It causes wrinkles and premature aging. No heavy binge drinking. No drugs (should be a no brainer.) Drink more water than soda; water moisturizes your skin from the inside out and flushes out the impurities. Exfoliate. Use the butters.

          • theshapeofpunktocome

            :D thanks girl!! i’m pretty good about those things. didn’t mean to fish for attention about my issues – wouldn’t have posted it if i hadn’t wanted to share my, “oh, duh, look at my white tears” moment.

            • Mochasister

              So you didn’t want advice about the aging? I wasn’t being facetious when I offered the tips. I’m really into skincare and I like trading tips. But if you’re good on the skincare then disregard.

              • theshapeofpunktocome

                nono i totally appreciate the advice!! :>

        • John Lloyd

          Agreed look at my post history I’m usually one of the ones of us fighting with t hose trolls on every other comment section all day on youtube and worldstar, I get it. Post what you want, as will I.

    • Everyoneisbeautiful

      I totally agree with this article but what I don’t understand is how now all of a sudden its ok to bash a group of people because of how they age?? You didn’t have to stoop to this level. I work in a nursing home and I’ve seen both “blacks that don’t crack” and also ones that have aged just the same as the white patients. Genetic lottery…if you truly believe that one should not be judged by the color of their skin, etc then maybe you shouldn’t be patting yourself on the back for something you were born with and didn’t actually accomplish.

      • PinkRose

        If you think my comment was about the genetics of aging, think again. And I can assure you that as a Scientist that I know more about genetics than you’ll EVER learn. So get back to changing bed pans, there’s not a CNA on the planet that should be out here giving genetics lectures to ANYONE .

        • twoifbytea

          Giiiiirrrllll, that response just gave me LIFE! I literally just had church service right quick. Rotflmao

        • La Bandita

          Tell Darth Becky to take her Darth Tommy and go home…

        • Mochasister

          It never fails. You can almost always tell who is white or dating/married to someone white by the types of comments they make. How much you want to bet they don’t go on Reddit or Yahoo and defend us against the anti Black woman comments.

      • Blueberry01

        Please re-read her comment again. That’s wasn’t her intent at all.

      • ChokeOnThisTea

        What you have to understand is that we celebrate ourselves and our skin because society refuses to do so. It’s really unfair of you to expect us not to on a small scale when society celebrates you (assuming you’re white) on a large scale every day.

        • RageFace

          I swear to god, I don’t know why white people decided that they’re superior in beauty or anything because I’m a fashion photographer and I can assure you that very few things measure up to the amount of crap I’ve had to Photoshop out of the faces of white chicks who booze and bake and party all damned night before a shoot.

          I celebrate you and you celebrate you – do itt! ?

        • Summer Carpenter Meyer

          I believe it’s jealousy and envy. I think people of color are more beautiful and interesting than white people. You have such a tangible culture that white people don’t have. At the end of the day most white people have no real connection to their heritage and it makes us asshats.

      • Kim

        Found the Becky!

    • Christina B.

      Lmfao

    • NOLA_Darling

      Been there, done that and got the severance letter to prove it.

    • ShaiUnfiltered

      My Darth Susan sits in the cubicle next to me. She kept talking to me like she was my mother’s age and I thought she was close to my mother’s age. One day I had to ask “Darth Susan, how old are you?”
      “Oh, I’m 46”
      Me: “Oh, we’re close in age. I’ll be 40 in August.”

      She looked at me so hard and long. “I thought you were 25.”

      She lost that damn maternal tone though.

      • PinkRose

        Don’t leave ANY coffee cups around, take them home EVERY day. ;)

        • Doll Parts

          What??

      • Blueberry01

        Shut them up, girl. Shut.Them.Up.

        And the bad part isn’t even how she was talking to you as much as it was the automatic assumption that you were younger/inferior/dumber than her. Obviously if you’re working at the SAME job, you’re qualified to be there.

    • WKYA_Radio

      Omg thanks for this comment LOL

    • RagingNatural

      I really feel like white people aging like bananas is their karma for the terrible things their culture has done to the world.

    • Liz

      You better speak this truth!!! I’ve been battling middle-aged Darth Susans since my first job. I remember warning my now husband about how middle aged White women hated my guts for no reason. He thought it was a joke until he witnessed it first hand.

      • Liz

        Also, the Darth Susan at my job was actually named Susan and she was notorious for trying to get negroes fired.

    • Guest

      Dwl! Hahahahahaha!!!

    • Junegirl627

      i’m always getting the “OMG you’re 37!!!!” “you have such beautiful skin” after a while it sound really silence of the lambs ” it rubs the lotion on it’s skin…..”

  • LegallyClueless

    I’m just going to point out that in the video Kanye never raps the “I made that bitch famous” line but can see how her Grammy speech made her seem untruthful.

  • miss t-lee

    I’m truly over the whole lot of them.
    Like…go away.

  • Other_guy13

    I have been saying this for a while. Anyone who tries to be that nice and that protective of their image, has a hidden agenda. These are the worst types of people…make you trust them…feel their sob story and then somehow someway you are accused of doing them wrong. Anyone who is always done wrong and is ALWAYS the victim is usually the problem. Common denominator and what not. Its one of the things I look out for when dating…if all the exes are crazy and do her wrong…its usually not them…its her. Taylor is ALWAYS wronged and everyone always rushes to the “all American girl’s” defense without looking at the facts. Nah bruh…I peeped game years ago. T-Swifty don’t fool nobody round here.
    Kim K just out “mean girl” a “mean girl”…I love it

    • sasha

      Yup! Atleast she apologized to Nicki. But I knew KATY PERRY wasn’t lying.

      • Angel Baby

        What happened with her and Katy Perry? On Twitter people had some funny gigs about how Katy was watching her Kim K’s stuff. LOL I missed that one.

        • sasha

          Some say it was a feud over men, backup dancers, etc… But the quote that Katy said “Beware of the Regina Georges in sheep clothing” (reference to mean girls) was poignant and said at a time of peak “everyone loves tswift” so it always stuck.

    • Blueberry01

      I call them narcisists and I run like h e l l once I spot them.

  • Medium Meech

    Did anyone see the ghostbusters movie over the weekend? Was it any good? Did they address the fact that it’s scientifically proven that women can’t fight ghosts because of their anatomy?

    • I heard it was ok but they made a point of using the black lead to flesh out all their black jokes.

      • ChokeOnThisTea

        Per usual. ?

        I saw The Purge a few weeks back (don’t waste your money) and it was the exact same thing. Like, the Negroe jokes weren’t even funny, yet wypipo were laughing their as ses off.

        • I know black actors who aren’t A-listers probably need the money and exposure but why else do they agree to these demeaning roles all the time?

          • ChokeOnThisTea

            You just said it– money and exposure. How unfortunate.

          • ThatBlackBear

            It’s real hard to make it in this acting game once you start turning down auditions and roles. People wanna single out the few lucky stars who were able to be picky but, for the rest of us, it really does kill a career quick. Got me out here struggling cause I got thoughts and opinions…

            • Epsilonicus

              Once you start turning stuff down, they stop making offers.

              • White people are terrible.

                • ThatBlackBear

                  It ain’t just the White people either. Some of us who have gotten through will stand directly in the way, too; talmbout “she’s difficult to work with.” When you only let through the Black folk who will agree to do what you ask, the turn around and do the same thing to their own people.

                  It do start with the White folk tho…

                  • Again, white people hold all the power in these instances so I’m not absolving them of creating these spaces for black bodies to sh*t all over each other.

                    • ThatBlackBear

                      I hear that. Start looking into how much diversity these casting agencies have…it aint pretty.

                      You got all White rooms out here choosing who gets to be seen for Empire…

                  • ALM247

                    “When you only let through the Black folk who will agree to do what you
                    ask, the turn around and do the same thing to their own people”.

                    Preach! I complain about this often….the hypocrisy is staggering.

          • cakes_and_pies

            Leslie Jones has been playing the same person since the early 2000s. If you look at her stand-up specials and Top Five, this is just how she acts. I bet she wrote at least 60% of her own jokes.

            • Deeds

              She uses that self deprecating humor so others won’t do it to her it or she jokes about herself the way others have in her past.

            • miss t-lee

              I just don’t think she’s funny.

              • Agreed. I’ve never been a fan of her brand of comedy but I understand that it pays the bills for her. I won’t fault her for working the system and being that loud black women that white people want her to be.

                • miss t-lee

                  I mean…I guess. If she likes it, I love it.
                  However, it’s madd cringeworthy.

                  • She gets a hard pass from me. The fact that she’s of large stature and darker skinned makes the trope that much worse for me.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Agreed.

                • ChokeOnThisTea

                  Her brand reminds me of the Wayans’ style of comedy. It’s meant for white laughs at the expense of black dignity.

                  • When you’re right, you’re right.

                  • Medium Meech

                    The sad thing is in some feminist circles she’s like the posterchild of intentionality inclusion because she’s black and on SNL. I get a unibrow every time I see it because it’s problematic on so many levels.

                    • ChokeOnThisTea

                      I’m assuming you mean white feminist circles…

                    • Medium Meech

                      Yeah, feminist circles…

                    • Amber

                      I don’t really care for her brand of comedy but I don’t necessarily find it problematic. This seems to be her personality and it’s consistent with her old stand up. But I get the desire to want her to rep black women in a different way I just find it a bit problematic that it seems that folks want her to be less (fill in the blank) or something.

                  • miss t-lee

                    Thing is…the Wayans didn’t start out that way.

                    • ChokeOnThisTea

                      No they did not which is all the more unfortunate.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Yup.

                  • Deeds

                    This pretty much sums it up

                • Amber

                  Yeah she has been doing the same routine since comic view on BET.

              • cakes_and_pies

                I tried to watch one of her stand-ups. I cringed and turned it off.

                • miss t-lee

                  I caught a clip on youtube of her stand up…it was like 3 minutes and I was out after 45 seconds.

                • Cheech

                  The thing is, she actually spent a fair amount of her career standing up to segregation in comedy clubs, refusing to play “black” nights (not what she called them) or be pigeonholed into “urban” comedy, even when refusing was costing her gigs and opportunities. She insisted on getting the chance to play to broad audiences on her own terms.

                  But yeah, her stand-up isn’t funny. Saying “that dyck, tho–” followed by big eyes and odd faces — not that funny.

            • Medium Meech

              Yeah, black actors and all that, but every time I see her I’m on edge waiting for her to pop off and say “I don’t know nothing ’bout birthing no babies!”. And that SNL skit she did on being a prize woman in slavery times and her subsequent rant… nah. I’m good.

              • miss t-lee

                That rant…

              • cakes_and_pies

                I guess I get why she’s doing it. She’s trying to maintain the non-PC SNL we had in the late 70s, early 80s, but there are other ways to do it.

            • Cleojonz

              I think this is true too, this seem to really be her schtick.

          • Medium Meech

            *Thinks back to skips and mudflap from that transformers move, remembers Jar Jar Binks, unlocks repressed memories of Mr. PoPo*

            Robots. Robots and aliens.

            • Epsilonicus

              Jar Jar was suppose to be black?

            • Ari

              Jar Jar Binks still makes me shudder when I think of him flopping around the screen.

        • Tee

          Thank you cause I thought about going to see The Purge.

          • ChokeOnThisTea

            DON’T.

            The gruesome effects were really good, but the acting and writing were cringeworthy. It was like watching a tone def person singing on Apollo’s Amateuer hour. The horror.

      • TarheelBandB

        This is Leslie Jone’s lot in life. Glad she is finding success as a black woman. But not as the angry, promiscuous, black woman trope that she often casts herself into.

        • I just made mention of this tired trope below. I’m not a fan but whatever pays her bills, kudos to her.

    • Bah Debo

      I very much enjoyed the movie….yes, the black lead makes all of the black jokes.
      Don’t go expecting too much and you’ll enjoy yourself.

      • Medium Meech

        I can’t trust the reviews because too many dudes were in their feelings about women playing ghostbusters that it became a low key social issue. And the commercials for the movie didn’t do a good job of making it look like a good movie.

        • Bah Debo

          Personally, I think if you enjoyed the originals….and you don’t have any issues with them being women….you’ll enjoy the movie.

    • Sparger

      mediocre. Nothing special or memorable.

  • ChokeOnThisTea

    Nope, Damon. Taylor never agreed to being called a b—- that Ye made famous. From my understanding, her issue is chiefly with that line and I don’t blame her.

    Kim and Kanye know who to run up on. Taylor Swift, teenagers, and people who can’t/won’t fight back. Where was all this mouth when Amber Rose and Blac Chyna were reading them for filth? Or when that football player threatened to kick Kanye’s as s? They were deleting tweets and sending out peace treaties all over the place. Sit down, clowns.

    Besides, Taylor is no more or less of a dangerous white woman than Kim. Ye gon learn before this lifetime is over.

    • cakes_and_pies

      Of the two, Taylor Swift is way more dangerous because she hasn’t gotten the magic stick from a Black man. Most White women get tossed to the side by White men like spoiled milk for having chex with a Black man. That’s real.

      She considered “pure” and innocent.

      • ChokeOnThisTea

        Tossed to the side, eh?

        Yet Kim is covering Forbes and Fortune magazines from let to right off one chez tape. Show a black woman with the same background who has gotten those same level of opportunities. All white women are considered pure and innocent, even the trashy ones.

        • Epsilonicus

          Most white people don’t consider Kim white.

          • ChokeOnThisTea

            But still white enough to benefit from white privilege.

            • miss t-lee

              Bingo.

          • miss t-lee

            They don’t have to consider her white…but she’s still white.

            • Epsilonicus

              I get your point but she in that limbo area. I think she is white. Many of them dont. Idk who is the winner of that one.

              • miss t-lee

                Most folks ain’t breaking it down by ethnicity. Armenian=White to most folks.
                IDEK what “limbo area” means.

                • Kylroy

                  Unless they’re using the early 20th century definition where only WASP=white, Kim’s decidedly white.

                  • miss t-lee

                    Indeed.

                • Epsilonicus

                  I think we looking at it differently. Whiteness has always been super arbitrary and not logical (unless that logical is preserving power structure). So some groups we considered white at first weren’t until whiteness needed them to preserve status quo.

                  I say that to say if white folks vote Kim out of being white, is she still white? I say yeah but then again im not sure. Not that its an important question just more of an intellectual curiousity.

                  • miss t-lee

                    We *are* looking at it differently.
                    You want to get technical, when I’m just calling a spade,a spade.
                    Who are they white people who are saying she ain’t white? I definitely haven’t ran across any of them.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      I done ran across a bunch.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Clearly.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Things don’t go like that down this way.

                    • Kas

                      I would not consider Armenians white, but that’s just me.

                    • Mochasister

                      What are they then?

                    • Kas

                      Middle-Eastern-Lite?

                    • Mochasister

                      I thought they were considered white.

                    • Kas

                      They are.

                    • grownandsexy2

                      I’ve run across one at work who doesn’t consider her white and according to him, neither does the circle he travels in. To me, she’s white.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Hmmmm.
                      She’s also white to me.

                    • Mochasister

                      Well, what is she then? She’s not biracial. She’s not a Latina of color.She is NOT Black. What do they consider her?

                  • Mochasister

                    Having said that are Asians (well East Asians) part of the white commmunity yet? I know out of all the minorities they’re probably the ones that are accepted the most by whites.

                    • Epsilonicus

                      Hispanics are the group being assimilated into whiteness. Their population is growing faster than any other group. And they vote actively

                • Brooklyn_Bruin

                  Them middle eastern/central Asian cats aren’t considered white by “real white” people. Slavs, Eastern Europeans, all manner of Greeks and Italians… Polish and Irish just snuck in there. And don’t be Jewish..

                  Real white is
                  – red neck, hillbilly, Republican
                  – English, German, Scandinavian

                  Everything else is off brand. You ain’t seen code switching until you see white folks do it.

                  • miss t-lee

                    Yeah, i hear y’all talking…but these are all still white people.

                    • Mochasister

                      That’s how I see it . I hate when white people start breaking down their background. They’ll say I am Dutch, Scottish, English, and Spanish. I usually think to myself so in other words you’re white.

                    • miss t-lee

                      White, white, white and more white.

                  • Mochasister

                    Sort of like a hierarchy of whiteness? I just tend to view whites as being one amorphous blob of whiteness. Different cultures but still all white.

        • cakes_and_pies

          Tossed to the side as far as a White man not wanting to have chex with her. It has nothing to do with business or money.
          Kim shtick is her hypersexuaility and Swift acts like Laura Ingles Wilder. Who do you think a White man would save first?

          • ChokeOnThisTea

            Kim is just as much a “liar” as Taylor. Kim lies about the authenticity of her face/body and hijacks other people’s cultures while Taylor “lies” about her innocence. A lie is a lie is a lie.

            • JennyJazzhands

              One day her receipts will be released in a similar fashion. Kim is not only a liar but a hypocritical and know-it-all. She criticizes everything and everyone while walking around looking like a busted microwave sausage.

        • You’re right, but if Kim was so inclined(though considering her dating history, she probably isn’t), she’d struggle to get a top shelf White guy interested in wifing her.

          • Deeds

            Chexual politics seem so stupid at times. Learning about how white men view white women that have been with black men is interesting and kinda just stupid. But that’s life I guess.

            • Buster Cannon

              That surprised me when I first heard of it. Had a roommate who refused to date a woman he knew because she had been with a black dude. Thought it was kinda silly, but hey, that’s racism for you.

              • cakes_and_pies

                They automatically assume she’s tainted or because of your perceived Mandingo status, they can’t possibly please her. It’s weird

            • Epsilonicus

              Yup. It is very stupid.

            • LMNOP

              I had no idea this whole how white men view white women that have been with black men was a thing.

              • Epsilonicus

                Yup it sure is. And some take it extremely serious

          • ChokeOnThisTea

            Kim can’t even get a top shelf black man, but that’s another story.

            White privilege can extend beyond one’s dating history. That’s how powerful it is. A white chic dating black men can still throw a black man under the bus in a minute. We saw it with Khloe and Lamar when his drug habits (which I seriously suspect she has too) were first revealed by that family.

            • Epsilonicus

              Naw. Lamar habit was known well before then. Even when he came in the NBA there were rumors about his peoples and him.

              • Word. I know people who personally sold him drugs. Nah B. This started long before the Kardashians were around.

                • Epsilonicus

                  Plus with addicts, they are gonna do their thing no matter who they are with.

              • ChokeOnThisTea

                You sholl love defending bottom of the barrel white chics, Eps. Can’t wait to see you do the same for black women one of these days. #Shade

                Anyway, they were okay with riding the coattail of his fame, but as soon as his addiction became major public news, they tossed his as s to the side like a hot potato and had no problem talking sh it about him on the regular.

                • *chokes on ice cream*

                  Oh come now, we all know that defending a black woman is a no no.

                • Epsilonicus

                  I defend Black women lots. You just not in my offline life to see that happen on the regular basis that it occurs. I just dont have the dislike for the Kardashians (I actually dont know my own opinion of them, thats how little I think of them and how little I follow celebrity culture) that most people have.

                  1. I said what I said above that because I have very personal experiences with addiction. Addicts gonna addict no matter who is around. So Kardashians play very little role in Lamar’s addiction and its intensity. He may have hid it from them really well until it got out of control. You would be surprised at who is an addict. Many maintain a strong semblance of normalcy for long periods of time.

                  I would not blame someone for leaving a person suffering with addiction. That ish can really ruin your life. Yes, folks say through sickness and health. But if their sickness makes you sick, you just might be better off leaving.

                  2. Lamar was well-known not famous. He was not a starter for much of his NBA career. He was just known as the best 6th man in the business. If anything, they were a come up for him.

                  • ChokeOnThisTea

                    1) My apologies then on the accusation. :)
                    2) I never stated that family played a role in his addiction or that Khloe was wrong to leave per say. I do, however, fault them for publicly smearing his name and kicking a man when he’s down. Especially since they heavily benefitted from that man when he was up…or high (pun intended).
                    3) They always bang with semi-famous, not very well known Black men. Like I said, top of the shelf black men (aka Denzel or Will Smith type men) don’t mess with them. They ride the coattails of B-list or D-listers in order to magnify their own fame. And the irony of it all is that they become more famous than the people they use because well…white privilege.
                    4) If Ye thinks Taylor did him dirty, he’s gonna be in for a real doozy once these Kardashians finish using him up. But it’ll be a while from now, so he better tread softly.

                • naughtycorner

                  As a longtime lurker here you are wasting your time with that one basically he is

                  CAPTAIN NEGRO

                  • Epsilonicus

                    Inaccurate but ok. Whatever helps you sleep at night and gets you some Discus likes.

                    • naughtycorner

                      This a mild diversion at work in between client meetings . Funny you think”likes ” are my issue , I mean its not like I am here daily making multiple posts like its a full time Job ?
                      (You know what I mean LOL)
                      You are seriously deluded if you think what goes in these e-streets with pple IDK affects my sleeping habits. Projecting are we ???
                      I stand by my observation just find it interesting when other pple notice this as well.

                    • JD_Challenger

                      Yeah some of these folks are obsessed with racial politics.

      • Facts on facts on facts! Once a White chick gets with a Black man, a lot of White dudes assume that she’ll sleep with anyone or do anything in bed. Some might be with it, some might not, but they’ll always be number two to the “pure” ones.

        • So basically she’s debased based on views of Black sexuality then, huh?

          • Yes. Next question.

        • Deeds

          So, what do they think of black women, that we are automatically born into doing anything or anyone, or does that only apply to WW.

          • No, and that’s the odd part. One would imply the other. If anything there’s a rep of prudishness.

            • Kas

              I believe common consensus is ww are the ones most likely to be down for whatever.

            • 7thangel

              you got this wrong. white men thinking black women are prudish flies in the face of history.

              • Kas

                Sexual and prudish are not mutually exclusive.

                • cakes_and_pies

                  There’s a reason why the phrase “Lady in the streets, freak in the sheets.” exists.

          • grownandsexy2

            In my experience, WM believe BW aren’t born virgins.

      • Sparger

        What fantasy land are you living in thinking a black penis makes women lose their mind and no white man will have them. White women who date black men go back to white men everyday. Do you know how many families I see daily with one biracial kid with white step dad and full white brothers and sisters.

        • JD_Challenger

          Be careful before someone confuses themselves and suspect you’re defending White women for (“GASP!) expressing your opinion that doesn’t match theirs.

    • Epsilonicus

      “Nope, Damon. Taylor never agreed to being called a b—- that Ye made famous. From my understanding, her issue is chiefly with that line and I don’t blame her.”

      Nope. She literally said you can make the line whatever he wants and that people will take it as tongue and cheek.

      Taylor Swift: “Um, yeah. I mean go with whatever line you think is better. It’s obviously very tongue-in-cheek either way.”

      Taylor Swift: “You guys want to call this a feud; you want to call this throwing shade but, you know, right after the song comes out I’m going to be on a Grammy red carpet and they’re going to ask me about it and I’ll be like, ‘He called me.’ … It’s awesome that you’re so outspoken about this and be like, ‘Yeah, she does. It made her famous.’ Its more provocative to say ‘might still have chex’ because…”

      Thats from the transcript. Welp. Its on her for not having her receipts resolved.

      • ChokeOnThisTea

        Nah. That’s all very technical.

        The truth is, I don’t really care for any of them. Kanye, Taylor, or Kim. They can all go to he ll on a rollercoaster. Furthermore, this is wypipo news. Shame on me for even getting involved. Lol

        • Kas

          I, for one, am certainly judging you.

          • ChokeOnThisTea

            Kas! For a second there I thought that was you in the pic until I got a closer look. Lol

            • Kas

              Nope, I’m still a man of mystery.

    • Cheech

      I think you’re right, Tea. Mind you, I don’t follow this stuff and I’m not a fan of either of them, so all I know is what I read in 20 minutes. But the Grammy speech sounds like it was about not letting others (men) take credit for your career. Which sounds pretty squarely aimed at “made that beech famous,” a line that (as far as I can tell) appears nowhere in the call. It doesn’t have anything to do with “might still have s e x,” the line that did get approved (in what she says was the only call that happened). Whatever lies or hypocrisy might exist elsewhere, I don’t see it here.

      I do remember, though, a few months ago when Kanye was hosting SNL, reading that he said he was tired of people defining him by the VMAs all those years ago. For someone who says he wants that behind him, he sure does keep bringing it up. Here’s everyone talking about him again, and not for the music.

      As for the rest, I have no idea. I’m not a fan of any of these people.

      • L8Comer

        in part 3 of the video (not as widely distributed as part 1 and part 2), Taylor is the one that brought up him making her famous… something like “Yea, he made her (TS) famous”. The entire snap is on TMZ if you’re interested and there’s a transcript out there too lol. I don’t know if she really thought that he made her famous or was just throwing out ideas. She was also giving tips on the lyrics saying “might have chex is more provocative” That’s why she only criticizes the “that b” and not the I made her famous part or any other part. Of the entire verse, I think the chex and made her famous part is actually the most offensive tho

        • Cheech

          Yeah, I just saw the part Eps quoted below, so I looked up the transcript. That’s pretty heavily manipulated, so you can’t really tell what was said (or approved). If she was OK with the made her famous part, then yeah, now I see Damon’s point. (I’m not buying that she’s outraged based just on “that bitch.” No one has virgin ears in the music biz, and you don’t get to have a whole video of dancers twerking and then pretend you’ve never heard “beech” in a hip hop song. Plus her speech didn’t have anything to do with “beech,” only with him taking credit for her fame.)

          I’m not motivated enough to search TMZ or listen. That’s what I get for speaking up on something I don’t follow. I’ve exhausted my interest in these folks.

          • L8Comer

            I feel you. I’ve been so exhausted with the news tho I’m desperate for shenanigans, and so I’ve turned to pop culture more as of late haha.

            For me, the bottom line is, I just don’t trust her whole “positively aghast” act. She was def being misleading imo. Especially since her prior statement said she warned Kanye of releasing such a misogynistic song, but she clearly signed off on the most misogynistic part

      • ChokeOnThisTea

        YES, YES, AND YES CHEECH!!!!

        I wholeheartedly co-sign all of this. If anything, those videos really do prove that Taylor didn’t hear the line she takes issue with.

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