“The first time is really nerve racking … but, I have a lot of at-home experience?”¹
—montana fishburne (daughter of laurence. yes, that laurence), describing her soon-to-be released porn debut
when i first heard last week that larry fishburne’s 19 year old daughter had filmed a pornographic video with lloyd banks doppelganger brian pumper, the first thoughts that went through my head had nothing to do with the validity of the rumor, fishburne’s (apparent) failures as a father, or even my (admittedly tepid) interest in actually seeing this film.
no, the only thing i could even bother thinking about was “why the hell would she pick the wackest n*gga in porn to film a scene with?” you see, pumper is the black porn connoisseur’s tyler perry: a person whose brilliant business acumen and work ethic stands as a complete contrast to the wretched catsh*t he actually produces. while it may seem a bit odd to hear a (straight) man profess such a pointed negative opinion of a male porn star, trust me when i say that barbershop 3 is more rewatchable than a scene featuring brian pumper.
anyway, once i got over my pumper disgust, i couldn’t help but admire the shrewdness of montana fishburne’s decision. while other aspiring starlets have learned to adopt a faux surprise and a general apologeticness when hearing that their sex tapes had been “leaked”, this marks the first time i know of where a woman has actually said “the only reason i’m doing this is because i want mainstream fame, and this seems like the best way to make that happen“, and that mindset’s (taking unapologetic advantage instead of pretending that you were taken advantage of) surprisingly refreshing. you can argue that said shrewdness is nothing but short-sighted (and dangerous) naivete, but a certain self-exploitative single-mindedness is neccesary if your goal is to emulate the kardashian/hilton model of popcorn (but, legitimate) celebrity.
with this in mind, pumper’s posturing and horrendous mid-scene rapping actually makes him the perfect partner. if a sex tape is merely a 30 minute means to a (hopeful, but improbable) c-list end, who better to co-star than the clown prince of pornography? while i’m not quite ready to call her the bell hooks of black porn, she does have quite a bit of curt flood in her.
i guess this is where i should insert some commentary about how society’s perpetual desensitization to porn affects our collective psyches, and how this numbness has an adverse effect on our dating and relationship lives. i should probably also say something about divorce, daddy issues, and the culture of celebrity, but i…just…don’t…f*cking…care.
the main argument against pornography is that it exploits, degrades, and endangers misguided young women. but, when you consider self-determined starlets like fishburne, established porn stars who’ve created their own companies and revenue streams, and the fact that women’s collective porn patronage is growing exponentially, is something truly degrading if someone has complete creative and financial control of said degradation? and, while there are many women (and men) in the adult industry who’ve landed there after falling of a tree of abuse, bad decisions, and financial despair, i can’t muster much self-righteous indignation about a woman who’s using porn instead of allowing herself to be used by porn, regardless of who her dad happens to be.
like it or not, porn, and women using porn as a vehicle to get off and get on, is here to stay. and, if all it takes to get ahead is to get some head on film, go ahead. i aint mad at ya. just don’t expect me to pay to watch it.
¹”but, i have a lot of at-home experience” definitely ranks 3rd behind “i need an enema” and “i’ve learned a ton from my dad” on the list of “the three worst possible things i could accidentally overhear my 19 year old daughter say about sex“.
—the champ
Moon Prism Power!
Does it really count if no one else is awake anymore? Meh. Anywho. Wow. Why didn’t I know this was news? I feel like Twitter let me down….
But um yeah. Good for her. Wish I could come up with something more than a ‘yeshrug, but if she were some other guy’s daughter would this be a topic? As for her “shrewd business decision” meh to that too. She’ll never be legitimate if that’s what she actually wants. If not, well best of luck.
Sailor Moon! =)
cool avi!
She’ll never be legitimate if that’s what she actually wants.
how do you define “legitimate”?
“how do you define “legitimate”?”
legitimate. n. A frequent VSB commenter.
Oh, you asked, Andi…my bad.
I specifically meant a legitmate actress, a professional actress who is taken seriously for her craft be it film ot tv, comedy or drama. To me, a porn actress, even a professional one (as opposed to a misguided college student), is not legitimate. I don’t know if becoming a real actress is Miss Fishburne’s goal, but if so, this won’t work.
Another point, many porn actresses (and prostitutes in general) have suffered from some sort of previous trauma. Deciding to sell your body is not a decision most functional people leap to. I’m wondering what all was going on in the Fishburne home =/ This comment “I have a lot of at-home experience?,” frightens me…
Just had a thought… what if the tape doesn’t even really exist? I’m mean Pumper could come out later today and say he’s never seen the girl. Or what if she has “doers” remorse and never releases the tape? She’s accomplished her goal… she’s definitely got her name in everyone’s mouth.
“She’s accomplished her goal… she’s definitely got her name in everyone’s mouth.”
But if it’s true, she’s got something in hers…
Can I get my comment out of moderation please? And it’s not fair that pron is the topic, but we can’t comment on it. There should be a disclaimer or something…
That’s the thing. If anyone else’s daughter came out and said that she was making porn to get “legitimate” roles becauseof Kim Kardashian it might just make the news.
I don’t think pornstar = horrible person or dumb whore but it is pretty damn ignorant to think you’re going to have some sort of successful career in mainstream films because of this. Maybe she’ll prove me wrong but I can only see a future on a reality show and maybe bit parts in a Wayans film but she won’t even get something as good as The Girlfriend Experience ( I didn’t care for Sasha Grey’s acting but it was an ok film).
Hah! Sailor Moon, love it!
It counts Andi. Congrats! No acceptance speech?
lol I’ll do one when I get first again tonight! Hopefully Champ will be on time…
Hopefully Champ will be on time…
be on deez
You won and in stylish fashion! Yay!
Usagi-chan! A Sailor Senshi is among the last damn avatars I’d expect to see LOL. Nice *goes to look up her favorite Yoruichi pic to make an avatar*
This story made me sad!
Ditto.
does porn in general make you sad?
black pron makes me sad and a little nauseated. go ahead, call me a racist.
I’m with you Ms.P!
I get so distracted by black women in pron. I always feel like it could be my sister, cousin or good friend. I don’t want that life for any of them. Also, the black women that I have seen in pron always look like hoodrats to me. They have the black woman features (big butt) but their weaves are awful, nails not done, crusty lips and hands, razor bumps and just over all not appealing. I guess pretty black women know how to work their assets in positive productive ways.
” Also, the black women that I have seen in pron always look like hoodrats to me”
Maybe I watch too much pron, but not all of the black women look like hoodrats. Some are actually pretty girls.
I’ve seen some pretty ones too but can we talk about the worn out lookin poon? My goodness. Some of them look like they took the chop it and ran over it twice and it turned into roast beef.
Ewww
black pron makes me sad and a little nauseated
you just don’t care about black people, thats all
You’re killin it today, you got me laughing my @ss off!
B. Pumper is pretty wack. From the “rapping” to his “skills”, it’s all a h.a.m. I’d rather watch paint dry. Seriously though ol’ girl’s name is Montana, with a name like that I think her parents set her up.
i must agree…i see brian pumper and i cut it off. all that beautiful body gone to waste. now mr. marcus on the other hand…
No offense but can you explain y Mr. Marcus is good.
I’m asking cus my SO likes watching him too.
Its the chocolate and the hat.
Mainly the hat for me.
word? Twinny–I think that kat is kinda corny too.
co-sign on that.
Have you seen his video that he did as a comeback for Rick Ross calling him gay? Hilarious, but you would think for a pron star he would better looking chicks in his video, but then again, maybe not. Oh, naming a girl Montana is a bad setup.
Now, just for my girl T-Lee, here is your obligatory Pimp C verse for the week:
“Boys kicking back, laying the shade, ain’t nobody trippin’ because the money already made, the 90s was for stackin’, 2000s for the ballas, the drop top Jag or the candy red Impala”
Hopes that helps you get through the week. My UGK mixed CD has not left my deck for like a week now.
“Have you seen his video that he did as a comeback for Rick Ross calling him gay? ”
Yep…I saw that. He just shoulda keep his mouth closed, period.
I think at one point it was like straight gibberish or something. Boy stop.
*thumbs on the UGK* Can never have enough of that.
@CBG
I found my mouth closing as I was watching his comeback vid. O.O
No brotha no. Lmao
Kim K. is now the new business model? Are they going to start teaching Sex Tapes 101 at Harvard Business School? This is truly depressing
lol seriously it’s such a double standard for black women Kim Kardashian Pamela Anderson Paris Hilton all make sextapes and realease them..(how the hell does your personal tape get “stolen” and rise to fame onE! or some other dumbass relaity show etc, black women release a sex tape you just a hoe
Naw. Those chicks are all hoes too.
lol true, idk if this was already said on VSB but whats’ the definition of a “hoe”?, or is a “hoe” is the eye of the beholder?..
idk of any black women releasing sex tapes and getting famous, but Karrine “Superhead” Steffans writes a tell all book about all the ninjas from Eddie Winslow, Bobby Brown and even Bill Maher??, and get pissed bc she’s called a hoe Lmbo, TV0ne is doing a Life After on her?? ummm why??
Naw. Those chicks are all hoes too.
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….why did I say that EXACT same response, verbatim?….
lol seriously it’s such a double standard for black women Kim Kardashian Pamela Anderson Paris Hilton all make sextapes and realease them..(how the hell does your personal tape get “stolen” and rise to fame onE! or some other dumbass relaity show etc, black women release a sex tape you just a hoe
i’ve heard this “if a black woman releases a sex tape, she’s a ho” double standard talk many times before, but this theory doesn’t really have any evidence to support it.
also, i don’t know if i’d consider women who made sex tapes with their significant others (ie, kardashian, hilton, anderson, etc) to be “hoes”. if thats the case, well…
yah making a sex tape with your significant other doesnt make you a hoe.
Hoes oftentimes let you know they are a hoe by saying hoe-like comments ex. “BUT, I HAVE A LOT OF AT-HOME EXPERIENCE”
That’s a hoe-like comment for sure.
Then again, just having sex for cash and fame kinda makes you a hoe, so it was pretty obvious with home girl.
And Paris and Kim and Pamela are hoes for sure. Anybody giving them a ho pass is suspect in my eyes. I’m wondering what type of hotivity you have in your past in you don’t think their behavior has crossed the line into ho-hood.
“And Paris and Kim and Pamela are hoes for sure.”
how?
Because we’re all hoes. Anybody that has secks, whether S.O or not, is a hoe. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. OWN YOUR HOSHYT in 2010! LOL!!
I kid I kid
not really.This should be interesting if answered. What is the definition of hoe? Really?
@ Melanie – We’ve tried defining it many times.
http://www.verysmartbrothas.com/ho-ho-ho/
Simply by existing.
rumor before the sextape was Montana is dating Brian Pumper . This signals further proof that women do not mentally and emotionally mature vastly faster than men since so many younger girls are manipulated to do much greater dumb shit by their older boyfriends as opposed to lesser dumber shit by boyfriends closer to their age.
Man, I just don’t care either. Why are we worried about the daughter of Morpheus? She can do whatever the hell she wants. I think its kind of strange that she decided to pursue porn because honestly, it is kind of a wack industry, but to each his own.
I’m not going to lie though, this story made me laugh at loud when I read it for the first time. Am I evil? Or is the fact that someone is taking career cues from Kim K just hilarious?
At least some people are admitting to be fame whores. *shrugs*
makes me think about Lawrence Fishbourne as a father (Boyz N Da Hood, Akeelah & the Bee mentor)..and, I mean dayum what parent is proud of their child for making a sex tape/posing nude.etc….daddy issues or not some kids just gon do what they wanna do it’s their perogative (bobby brown) or they are attention whores and wanna get a spinoff tv show or somethin’ idk..embarASSin’ to her fam tho’
i think that a major difference between the others is that they could *claim* that these videos were maid not for the public. Making a public appearance as a pornstar and embracing it will not allow you to truly branch out unless you want a spinoff show on E about well being a playboy playmate. No one goes from porn to the regular film industry, unless you want to limit your roles to being that of a hoe.
*Disclaimer i do not think women who make sex tapes or appear in porn are hoes, just a chick who wanted to make money*
“*Disclaimer i do not think women who make sex tapes or appear in porn are hoes, just a chick who wanted to make money”
So they’re prostitutes AKA ho3s?
how is the porn industry still so successful during a recesssion?? i would have thought that people would cut back on buying tapes and start making their own tapes to save money.
i mean sex isnt really exclusive to porn stars, and hot sex comes with practice.
But i guess when moneys tight u gotta prioritize
“how is the porn industry still so successful during a recesssion?”
Since the dawn of time when all man had was the tree of life and fig leaves to admire, secks has been here. Before we got fire and the wheel. Secks is the mainstay. A bad economy can’t change that fact.
This history lesson was brought to you by “HoSh*t always wins” Enterprises.
All is well except for Adult Film Stores….I’ve seen 3 of them close recently. The new priority is getting free or reduced porn!
the free porn sites are taking a blow(no pun) to the porn industry. However, alot of people are really into porn enough to buy subscription services on the net, magazine sales, conferences, product marketing for sex toys endorsed by porn stars.
People making porn less taboo will prolly serve to make it less profitable in the future though. Tragic.
The fact that she’s aspiring to emulate Kim Kardashian kills me. The entire lot of them, Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie, Kim Kardashian, (and whatever flavor of the week I’m forgetting) irritates me to no end. Bunch of vapid thirsty a*s attention wh*res.
This wasn’t supposed to be a reply, but I guess that’s what I get for posting @ 5:30AM.
I think the attention seeking is common around that age (I think she’s 19) and it’s not exclusive to daughters of famous/rich people.
Also, when pointing the finger at the Kim Kardashian’s and the rest of that ilk, society and how we give these individuals the power and attention they desire is to blame as well. Take away the audience that feeds into it, and it wouldn’t be the “in” thing to do.
it’s reality garabage trainwreck on tv, I watched a few episodes of KKK (kourtney khloe kim) to see what the Hype was about, and laughed from the 1 episode I saw they call their bio mom by her first name? and their mom set up a gig for her duaghter to pose for Playboy=parent of the year yay! I think one of em said “My Career’ I’m like you don’t do shid?? what “career” shopping twittering effing, taking pic/vid repeat? what a exhausting career, I immediately changed the channel
Don’t think that I don’t realize that – and this is the entire reason why in general, I refuse to watch TV beyond the first 48, snapped! and parking wars. I just didn’t want to come off as a huge crotchety old man
As far as attention-seeking at that age, true enough, but society in general has been trending towards becoming narcissistic in the last 20 years. My generation has been nicknamed generation “me” and as much as I hate that name, and despise the implications of it, I don’t have to look very hard why my generation has picked up that moniker.
That’s meant to read “reality TV beyond”…
how is the porn industry still so successful during a recesssion?? i would have thought that people would cut back on buying tapes and start making their own tapes to save money.
the fact that porn was one of the first major industries to fully embrace online business put them a bit ahead of the curve. plus, it’s an industry with a relatively low overhead and an unlimited supply of performers and consumers.
“The fact that porn was one of the first major industries to fully embrace online business put them a bit ahead of the curve.”
Oh yeah, they’re way ahead of the curve. Check out their plans for the iPhone 4G.
http://ecstaticfreshness.com/2010/07/30/the-adult-film-industry-is-gearing-up-for-4g-iphone-facetime/
Porn is actually hurting more then you think. The porn industry is surviving because it did embrace an online business model sooner, but piracy is hurting the industry something terrible. The squeeze is being shifted to porn actor and actresses, and they no longer command the salaries they used to command.
In the interest of full disclosure…How do I know this? Well, Tyler Knight is a member of a writing forum that I belong to and we had an “Ask a Porn Star…” thread. This later became the basis of his FAQ section on his writing website: http://tylerknight.com/archives/category/aq-a
how is the porn industry still so successful during a recesssion??
It might just be keeping folks from going postal.
Why did I have a feeling one of your posts this week was going to have something to do with pron, Champ? Crazy. Congrats to Andi on claiming first post with a Sailor Moon reference. Reminds of watching Sailor Moon with my niece when she was a kid. Will hit this topic in the morning after I finish watching the first episode of season 4 of the Wire, where Partlow and Snoop go on a merking rampage.
Thanks CBG. I feel like it doesn’t count since everyone on the east coast is likely comatose. I’ll reserve my moon prism power for another occasion.
Why did I have a feeling one of your posts this week was going to have something to do with pron, Champ?
lol, you know, this is the first time either of us have actually devoted an entire entry to porn. i guess we were due and sh*t
Dayum, really? Hmm, that’s hilarious considering the number of obscure references and mentions would be enough to equal 5 stand-alone posts if you add ‘em up. lol
Good look, ya’ll for making history and ish, though.
I will try my best not to produce lil Courtney (VSB) children until the technology exists that guarantees that I can pick the sex of my child will 100% accuracy. I will not be picking females. This will be in my prenup.
this sounds like Brave New World, 1984, The Giver…picking the sex of your child..either way raising children regardless of gender is hard enough, but having daughters(johnmayer) in this millenium is a lot more challenging…
Awww The Giver is one of my favorite books ever!!
@Alovelydai: yeah Lois Lowry, my 6th grade teacher had the audio tape so listening to it made me like the book even more, pretty deep book
I will try my best not to produce lil Courtney (VSB) children until the technology exists that guarantees that I can pick the sex of my child will 100% accuracy
i think this technology already exists
it does exist http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/13/60II/main611618.shtml
Also the male (Y) sperm is smaller, faster, and more short-lived than the female (X) sperm. Because of this, it is better for boy-desiring couples to have sex closest to the time when a woman’s egg is released (ovulation). This way, the speedy male sperm could get to the egg sooner than the female one.
http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=52103
Well there’s hope for lil Courtney (VSB) Jr. yet!
@Andi-
Pause a win is definitely a win, and im on the East Coast until tues (Brooklyn stand up).
When I first started reading this post I was like damn, chick is dumb as hell. But after sitting and thinking about the this for a while I have to say that she might be onto something.
Using a system which has habitually kept you (women) down to produce success in your life is something that I would have to applaud, even if it is porn lol.
But hey maybe its just me…
Using a system which has habitually kept you (women) down to produce success in your life is something that I would have to applaud, even if it is porn lol.
isnt this what the feminist movement is all about and sh*t?