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Hands In The Concrete: 6 Surefire Ways To Impress A Man

g435dj-jewel-postersHere at VSB we’ve spent an inordinate amount of time trying to offer women a glimpse into the minds of men.  Truly, we’re not that complicated.  Find us, f*ck us, and flee (ya know).  It’s really that simple most of the time.

Now despite all of this free and sage pre-paid legal advice and consultation, we still get questions from women about how they might snag the attention of a particular male suitor.  And being the generous, love-loving gentleman (no Ne-yo) that I am, I figure what the hell, why not give the ladies an inside track on piquing the interest of 90 percent of men out there…without their boobs.

Let’s just be real here, boobage and backstage passes ALWAYS get our interest first.  But let’s say you want the guy to be interested interested.  Ya know, in your mind.  We here at VSB understand the womanly desire to have a man who WANTS to learn more about your mind, instead of your brains.  So we shall help.  I’ll offer up 6 ways to impress a man upfront so that he’s going to want to learn more about this interesting woman he’s just met.

And why is impressing us menfolks important?  Well, because when people get impressed, they automatically want to learn more.

1.  Know and be able to converse about hip-hop

If you’re dealing with a cat who’s really into hiphop, ACTUAL hip-hop knowledge will more than likely catch him off guard.   Not just knowing that Lil Wayne exists.  Martians know who Lil Wayne is.  But like being able to name the entire roster of the Wu-Tang Clan.  You get bonus points if you can name albums.  Every chick knows who Method Man is…but i’d bet 3 out of 2,876 know who Masta Killa is.  And that might be generous.

2.  To piggyback off of the first one, if you have a favorite producer, a rap dude will automatically get interested

Seriously, a lot of men don’t know producers but if you’re a chick who not only knows hip-hop (actually knows albums and not just songs or “the guy…what’s his name…But Of Course?!?  No wait…Mos Def!) but has a favorite producer and can run off their best works?  You’ll have a dude eating out of the palm of your hand…and then….ya know.  Bonus points if she likes to argue about who’s better, Pete Rock or Premier.  Hmm, chicks who know Premier will win points with any dude intro rap in the 90s.

Trust me.

3.  Know the rules to football

Generally basketball is easy to follow, but football has more rules than a Black man hanging out in West Virginia.  A woman who knows the difference between encroachment and and a false start? Sheeeeeeeeit.  In there like swimwear (girls callin’ me hun).

4.  Be a movie buff

Not sh*t like The Legal Pad Notebook, but be able to go toe to toe from The Anchorman to Coming To America to The Godfather.  Not that you’ve just seen them, but you actually watched them, can quote them, and then can apply the necessary lessons to life.  Especially with movies like Scarface.  A well-timed pop culture movie quote from Coming To America will always draw positive attention to you, sexy lady.  I promise.

5.  Be able to go toe-t0-toe about music

This is broader than hip-hop.  Women who can wax philosophical about Thelonius’ place in the jazz canon or whether or not fusion pushed the envelope or set jazz back, or are into Bob James and David Axelrod will almost always stand out, even if the dude has no clue what you’re talking about.  Men are generally music snobs, not sure why this is.

6.  Cars

I don’t know jack sh*t about cars, but I drive a Hemi.  I had a chick break down my Hemi to me before.  I couldn’t care less, but if I was into cars, I’d have been impressed.  To me, my sh*t just goes vroom louder and better than yours.

There you have it, 6 ways to get a man’s attention by impressing him.  Nevermind the latent sexist nature of assuming women just don’t care to go in depth on most of that stuff or that we’re glad you know but we don’t really like women with opinions.  Or that if a man showed a similar interest in most women “areas” he’d be gayer than Kanye in San Francisco with two guys named Kiven and Juan.  Or that women would even have to impress men.  Yeah, forget all of that.

I keed, I keed!

So good people of VSB, what would impress you enough to want to learn more about a person?

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3

Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future.

  • http://lizburr.com Liz

    Hmm…Iono this list sounds like ways to impress YOU.

    YOU are already taken.

    plus,

    YOU are a 3. Why would I wanna impress a 3? How far up the scale do your tips actually work? I’m trynna impress a dude in the 8 region. Will this work?

    • Selah

      @Liz,

      that’s what I was thinking… it sounds like a great list to catch a Panama Jackson.

      I feel like one of the ways would have been “be knowledgeable about men’s shoe game” but he only wanted to put 6 things on the list. lol.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Selah, that actually was going to make the cut but if you knew Liz you’d know that she’s more of a word nazi than the guys who created twitter.

        hell, if its between a showdown with the oakland police and liz, i’m taking my chances with oakland pd 8 days a week, pal.

        • http://lizburr.com Liz

          @Panama Jackson, LOL!

        • http://lizburr.com Liz

          @Panama Jackson, LOL!

        • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

          @Panama Jackson,
          dam liz must be a tuff cookie lol

        • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

          @Panama Jackson,
          dam liz must be a tuff cookie lol

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Selah, that actually was going to make the cut but if you knew Liz you’d know that she’s more of a word nazi than the guys who created twitter.

        hell, if its between a showdown with the oakland police and liz, i’m taking my chances with oakland pd 8 days a week, pal.

    • Selah

      @Liz,

      that’s what I was thinking… it sounds like a great list to catch a Panama Jackson.

      I feel like one of the ways would have been “be knowledgeable about men’s shoe game” but he only wanted to put 6 things on the list. lol.

    • Gem Possible

      @Liz,

      lmao wow, liz is right on!!

      but dead @ “YOU are a 3. Why would I wanna impress a 3?”

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Gem Possible, how is liz right on? you all are just proving you cant read. i said cars in my list…and RIGHT UNDER IT i said i dont know jack sh*t about cars and wasn’t impressed by them.

        you all are just proving that i should put “reading” on my list.

        *shots fired*

        • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

          @Panama Jackson,
          dam they roastin you lol

        • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

          @Panama Jackson,
          dam they roastin you lol

        • Gemmie’s Got A Tan

          @Panama Jackson,

          ok so you tried to switch it up and get us with the okie-doke with “cars” but everything else can be signed-sealed-delivered for “things that wet panama’s canal”

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Gemmie’s Got A Tan, got to give credit where credit’s due…

            the panama canal line was pretty great.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Gemmie’s Got A Tan, got to give credit where credit’s due…

            the panama canal line was pretty great.

        • Gemmie’s Got A Tan

          @Panama Jackson,

          ok so you tried to switch it up and get us with the okie-doke with “cars” but everything else can be signed-sealed-delivered for “things that wet panama’s canal”

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Gem Possible, how is liz right on? you all are just proving you cant read. i said cars in my list…and RIGHT UNDER IT i said i dont know jack sh*t about cars and wasn’t impressed by them.

        you all are just proving that i should put “reading” on my list.

        *shots fired*

    • Gem Possible

      @Liz,

      lmao wow, liz is right on!!

      but dead @ “YOU are a 3. Why would I wanna impress a 3?”

    • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

      @Liz,

      LMAO!!! U r in rare form, Liz! RARE! And yes, I agree. This list blows chunks!

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Thuggie Luvvie, one more time for the cheap seats…

        • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

          @Panama Jackson,

          BOOOOO!!! *throws popcorn @ P-Money’s head*

        • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

          @Panama Jackson,

          BOOOOO!!! *throws popcorn @ P-Money’s head*

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Thuggie Luvvie, one more time for the cheap seats…

    • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

      @Liz,

      LMAO!!! U r in rare form, Liz! RARE! And yes, I agree. This list blows chunks!

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. naturally….

      @Liz,

      LOL!! great points Liz!!

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @N.I.A. naturally…., Liz is gonna lead y’all right into the great abyss known as the wrongness.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @N.I.A. naturally…., Liz is gonna lead y’all right into the great abyss known as the wrongness.

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. naturally….

      @Liz,

      LOL!! great points Liz!!

    • JamaicanGirl

      @Liz, Liz for the win…….. lol

    • JamaicanGirl

      @Liz, Liz for the win…….. lol

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/180085824_30b0d1c4d1.jpg overit

      @Liz, this whole 3 thing cracks me up. i always imagine panama coming out while girls walk around with big 3 signs, like in boxing matches.

      • http://theyounganddisenchanted.wordpress.com/ puff

        @overit,

        hahahahahaha i’ll be damned if i didn’t think the EXACT same thing

      • http://theyounganddisenchanted.wordpress.com/ puff

        @overit,

        hahahahahaha i’ll be damned if i didn’t think the EXACT same thing

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/180085824_30b0d1c4d1.jpg overit

      @Liz, this whole 3 thing cracks me up. i always imagine panama coming out while girls walk around with big 3 signs, like in boxing matches.

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

      @Liz, I was thinking the SAME thing.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @blackberry molasses, and i guess like Liz, you’re wrong too.

        lol.

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

          @Panama Jackson,
          no.

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

          @Panama Jackson,
          no.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @blackberry molasses, and i guess like Liz, you’re wrong too.

        lol.

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

      @Liz, I was thinking the SAME thing.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Liz, actually dearest Liz this list wouldn’t impress me very much aside from the music stuff.

      i couldn’t care less about cars (which i said). i also couldn’t care less if you dont know football..just shut up and let me watch.

      hell i only mentioned cars cuz i was flipping thru channels while writing this and “my cousin vinnie” was on. ole girl’s car game…vicious.

      and look at you cheating on the post…commenting BEFORE IT EVEN POSTS.

      and let’s be real, more than half of you women out there would date a 3 that could charm you. you actually probably ARE dating 3’s that charmed you.

      and um…3 deez.

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @Panama Jackson, hey hey heyyyyy i wasnt cheating!!1 just exercising my rights as a woman!!!!

        and um yes this post sounded a LOT like you i know you threw in some sh1t to try and throw pple off, but it has YOU written all over it…

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @Panama Jackson, hey hey heyyyyy i wasnt cheating!!1 just exercising my rights as a woman!!!!

        and um yes this post sounded a LOT like you i know you threw in some sh1t to try and throw pple off, but it has YOU written all over it…

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Liz, actually dearest Liz this list wouldn’t impress me very much aside from the music stuff.

      i couldn’t care less about cars (which i said). i also couldn’t care less if you dont know football..just shut up and let me watch.

      hell i only mentioned cars cuz i was flipping thru channels while writing this and “my cousin vinnie” was on. ole girl’s car game…vicious.

      and look at you cheating on the post…commenting BEFORE IT EVEN POSTS.

      and let’s be real, more than half of you women out there would date a 3 that could charm you. you actually probably ARE dating 3’s that charmed you.

      and um…3 deez.

    • WuDaMan

      @Liz, Uhm please believe it can work. Who doesn’t like interacting on they level & about things that they like. Did you know lots of men are confuse when a woman says she had an incredible time on a date w/ she thinks he’s incredible. That’s cuz if you did that for him you’d have to train him to go home @ the end of the night. just saying

    • WuDaMan

      @Liz, Uhm please believe it can work. Who doesn’t like interacting on they level & about things that they like. Did you know lots of men are confuse when a woman says she had an incredible time on a date w/ she thinks he’s incredible. That’s cuz if you did that for him you’d have to train him to go home @ the end of the night. just saying

  • http://lizburr.com Liz

    Hmm…Iono this list sounds like ways to impress YOU.

    YOU are already taken.

    plus,

    YOU are a 3. Why would I wanna impress a 3? How far up the scale do your tips actually work? I’m trynna impress a dude in the 8 region. Will this work?

  • http://chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

    LOL @ Panama’s plan blowing up on him in two posts LOL….curses, foiled again!

    although I will agree that most men are music snobs LOL

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @T. Troy Stewart,

      “although I will agree that most men are music snobs LOL”

      lol, i’ll take it even further. most men are elitist snobs, period, its just a matter of what we’re snobbish about. for some, its whips and sneakers. for others, its 80’s rap and nipples. for me, its comedy and basketball.

      • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

        @The Champ, “elitist snobs” being another way to say geek or nerd…

      • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

        @The Champ, “elitist snobs” being another way to say geek or nerd…

      • http://chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

        @The Champ, right right…for me it’s music, sci-fi and the Chicago Bears.

        • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

          @T. Troy Stewart,
          music, cars and oakland raiders

        • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

          @T. Troy Stewart,
          music, cars and oakland raiders

      • http://chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

        @The Champ, right right…for me it’s music, sci-fi and the Chicago Bears.

      • overit?

        @The Champ, for me, its comedy and basketball.

        watching you play bball covers both!

        • V Renee

          @overit?,

          Good one. LMAO

        • V Renee

          @overit?,

          Good one. LMAO

      • overit?

        @The Champ, for me, its comedy and basketball.

        watching you play bball covers both!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @T. Troy Stewart,

      “although I will agree that most men are music snobs LOL”

      lol, i’ll take it even further. most men are elitist snobs, period, its just a matter of what we’re snobbish about. for some, its whips and sneakers. for others, its 80’s rap and nipples. for me, its comedy and basketball.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @T. Troy Stewart, yeah, now my own family’s throwing shots.

      its a good week in Panama’s City.

      at this rate, my kid will read my post on Thursday and be like, ‘daddy, you dumb. now feed me beyotch.’

      • http://chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

        @Panama Jackson, LOL

      • http://chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

        @Panama Jackson, LOL

      • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

        @Panama Jackson,
        dam why i hava flashback for that dave show where wayne took his show and his kid lololol

        • http://www.chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

          @BLUNTBLAZER, wasn’t that Nick Cannon?

        • http://www.chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

          @BLUNTBLAZER, wasn’t that Nick Cannon?

      • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

        @Panama Jackson,
        dam why i hava flashback for that dave show where wayne took his show and his kid lololol

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @T. Troy Stewart, yeah, now my own family’s throwing shots.

      its a good week in Panama’s City.

      at this rate, my kid will read my post on Thursday and be like, ‘daddy, you dumb. now feed me beyotch.’

    • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

      @T. Troy Stewart,

      Yup, men are music snobs alright. There is a group on FB called “I listen to AOTP and Cunnilinguist, and yes I am better than you”… I think my SO was like the 5th member or something…

      *smh*

    • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

      @T. Troy Stewart,

      Yup, men are music snobs alright. There is a group on FB called “I listen to AOTP and Cunnilinguist, and yes I am better than you”… I think my SO was like the 5th member or something…

      *smh*

  • http://chubbyafro.com T. Troy Stewart

    LOL @ Panama’s plan blowing up on him in two posts LOL….curses, foiled again!

    although I will agree that most men are music snobs LOL

  • http://www.passmeashovel.com The Sphinx

    This list is cute, but to do any of these things would be to be someone I just am not.

    Sports?
    How about I let you have your time to yourself and/or with the guys while you’re watching the game? I’ll gladly go shopping! Every now and then (read: superbowl, or the playoffs when there’s a party involved) I’ll stay and talk ish. Otherwise, Imma let you do you.

    Cars?
    What more is there to know, other than left is start, and right is stop? Oh wait. I got that backwardz… :-/

    Music
    I can kinda dig that one, if that’s your thing. However, I really can care less who produced a track… Does Common (before he dropped the “Sense”) count for anything?

    • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

      @The Sphinx,

      Does Common (before he dropped the “Sense”) count for anything?

      Only if you dug Can I Borrow A Dollar….

    • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

      @The Sphinx,

      Does Common (before he dropped the “Sense”) count for anything?

      Only if you dug Can I Borrow A Dollar….

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @The Sphinx, works for me.

      and common after he dropped the sense is alright with me. except for the ass sandwich that was UMC and electric circus, he’s cool.

      couldn’t care less about what he has to say anymore, but he’s cool.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @The Sphinx, works for me.

      and common after he dropped the sense is alright with me. except for the ass sandwich that was UMC and electric circus, he’s cool.

      couldn’t care less about what he has to say anymore, but he’s cool.

  • http://www.passmeashovel.com The Sphinx

    This list is cute, but to do any of these things would be to be someone I just am not.

    Sports?
    How about I let you have your time to yourself and/or with the guys while you’re watching the game? I’ll gladly go shopping! Every now and then (read: superbowl, or the playoffs when there’s a party involved) I’ll stay and talk ish. Otherwise, Imma let you do you.

    Cars?
    What more is there to know, other than left is start, and right is stop? Oh wait. I got that backwardz… :-/

    Music
    I can kinda dig that one, if that’s your thing. However, I really can care less who produced a track… Does Common (before he dropped the “Sense”) count for anything?

  • Selah

    Being well-informed is important, no?

    Not saying you gotta constantly watch news shows — because the winner of shows like Project Runway are quite important — but I think it’s quite impressive if you know what’s going on in the world. lol

    • Gemmie’s Got A Tan

      @Selah,

      just caught the PR reference. so excited it’s moved to Lifetime!!! now i can watch the show from my room (where there is no cable box to watch Bravo) yay!!

    • Gemmie’s Got A Tan

      @Selah,

      just caught the PR reference. so excited it’s moved to Lifetime!!! now i can watch the show from my room (where there is no cable box to watch Bravo) yay!!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Selah,

      Being well-informed is important, no?

      personally, i’d be much more impressed if someone could breakdown the effect the relationship dynamics shown on the real world has had on american culture instead of, i dont know, north korea or the economy and sh*t.

      the news is overrated.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @The Champ, the news is overrated

        that’s a tshirt if i’ve ever seen one.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @The Champ, the news is overrated

        that’s a tshirt if i’ve ever seen one.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Selah,

      Being well-informed is important, no?

      personally, i’d be much more impressed if someone could breakdown the effect the relationship dynamics shown on the real world has had on american culture instead of, i dont know, north korea or the economy and sh*t.

      the news is overrated.

  • Selah

    Being well-informed is important, no?

    Not saying you gotta constantly watch news shows — because the winner of shows like Project Runway are quite important — but I think it’s quite impressive if you know what’s going on in the world. lol

  • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

    Using these rules, I’m a D+ student, according to the men. WOMP.

    Besides. Can I get some “I’m African” credit for my un-thorough knowledge of hip hop? I mean, don’t get me wrong. I do like hip hop, but not enough to engage in no deep convo about it. I could tell you which artists make me wanna kick a kitten but I can’t wax philosophical about which artist was best lyrically, Rakim or KRS One.

    And cars? I just like the ones that are red and shiny. Guess I’m a 3 by this post.

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/180085824_30b0d1c4d1.jpg overit

      @Thuggie Luvvie, put me down for Rakim! i’m really mad you used the african card to get out of hip hop 101.

      • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

        @overit,

        Best lyricist between KRS-1 and Rakim? Imma go with Eminem.

        • 8th Wonder

          @Monk,

          You never disappoint me, lmao!

        • 8th Wonder

          @Monk,

          You never disappoint me, lmao!

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Monk,

          “Best lyricist between KRS-1 and Rakim? Imma go with Eminem.”

          is this the best time to say that i think rakim is the most overrated artist in black music history?

          nah. i’ll wait till later.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @The Champ, most overrated? really?

            lol. can’t say i agree. his songs are classics b/c they are actually that good. though he’s REALLY easy to forget about, which might make him overrated.

            so maybe you’re right. or maybe you’re wrong.

            its tuesday.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @The Champ, most overrated? really?

            lol. can’t say i agree. his songs are classics b/c they are actually that good. though he’s REALLY easy to forget about, which might make him overrated.

            so maybe you’re right. or maybe you’re wrong.

            its tuesday.

          • http://twitter.com/ReverendDrDash Legendary Dash

            @The Champ,

            Nas is easily the most overrated artist in Black music history.

          • http://twitter.com/ReverendDrDash Legendary Dash

            @The Champ,

            Nas is easily the most overrated artist in Black music history.

          • tempsoner

            @The Champ, then your Rakim comment hows that you dont know hip hops history. Before Ra rhyming was still stuck in the Melee Me Message/Whoodini sing song form. Rakim showed you can talk with and rhyme words that dont actually sound the same. He also showed you dont have to gimmick your voice or have cheesy R&B beats, instead he spit over hard base booming beats. It amazes me that ppl call themselves hip hop heads and cant be objective. I am not a Ra fan but I do no his contribution to hip hop. If you thnk I dont know what I am talking about-listen to Jam On It then listen to Rakim-his delvery and technique allowed the Slick Ricks and Nas and Biggie and not to forget Jigga. he way I see it is if you watched the NFL’s “Greatest Game” you be appalled at the turnover and overall sloppy play, you’d most likely come away and say “this game put the NFL on the map”? However with hip hop I dont see how esp dudes dont see how certain things we take for granted in hip hop came to be. Again go listen to hip hop right before Ra and a yr after his debut album funny how no one sounds like Whoodini.

          • tempsoner

            @The Champ, then your Rakim comment hows that you dont know hip hops history. Before Ra rhyming was still stuck in the Melee Me Message/Whoodini sing song form. Rakim showed you can talk with and rhyme words that dont actually sound the same. He also showed you dont have to gimmick your voice or have cheesy R&B beats, instead he spit over hard base booming beats. It amazes me that ppl call themselves hip hop heads and cant be objective. I am not a Ra fan but I do no his contribution to hip hop. If you thnk I dont know what I am talking about-listen to Jam On It then listen to Rakim-his delvery and technique allowed the Slick Ricks and Nas and Biggie and not to forget Jigga. he way I see it is if you watched the NFL’s “Greatest Game” you be appalled at the turnover and overall sloppy play, you’d most likely come away and say “this game put the NFL on the map”? However with hip hop I dont see how esp dudes dont see how certain things we take for granted in hip hop came to be. Again go listen to hip hop right before Ra and a yr after his debut album funny how no one sounds like Whoodini.

          • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

            @The Champ,
            I think Kool G Rap is the best eastcoast rapper of all time !!!!!

          • http://www.myspace.com/thagrindaholic BLUNTBLAZER

            @The Champ,
            I think Kool G Rap is the best eastcoast rapper of all time !!!!!

          • overit

            @The Champ, i think you should wait longer, how do you figureRakim is overrated?

          • overit

            @The Champ, i think you should wait longer, how do you figureRakim is overrated?

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            saying the ra is overrated doesnt mean that im unaware of his influence, or even that i don’t think he was a great rapper. still, when roughly 20 percent of hip-hop heads call him “the best ever”, i call bullsh*t. groundbreaking? yup influential? of course. best ever? gtfo

            as far as temps analogy, while you recognize the significance of the “greatest game” noone in their right mind is gonna claim that bart starr is the best quarterback who ever lived.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            saying the ra is overrated doesnt mean that im unaware of his influence, or even that i don’t think he was a great rapper. still, when roughly 20 percent of hip-hop heads call him “the best ever”, i call bullsh*t. groundbreaking? yup influential? of course. best ever? gtfo

            as far as temps analogy, while you recognize the significance of the “greatest game” noone in their right mind is gonna claim that bart starr is the best quarterback who ever lived.

          • http://lmbao.org Dorian G.

            @The Champ,

            Simply not true, to this day a large amount of football observers still regard Johnny Unitas as the greatest QB of all time, and even in the sport you know and love Wilt and Russell are regarded as the two greatest centers ever, when in reality Hakeem would have Dream Shook both them ni99as to death.

          • http://lmbao.org Dorian G.

            @The Champ,

            Simply not true, to this day a large amount of football observers still regard Johnny Unitas as the greatest QB of all time, and even in the sport you know and love Wilt and Russell are regarded as the two greatest centers ever, when in reality Hakeem would have Dream Shook both them ni99as to death.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Monk,

          “Best lyricist between KRS-1 and Rakim? Imma go with Eminem.”

          is this the best time to say that i think rakim is the most overrated artist in black music history?

          nah. i’ll wait till later.

      • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

        @overit,

        Best lyricist between KRS-1 and Rakim? Imma go with Eminem.

    • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/72/180085824_30b0d1c4d1.jpg overit

      @Thuggie Luvvie, put me down for Rakim! i’m really mad you used the african card to get out of hip hop 101.

    • http://theyounganddisenchanted.wordpress.com/ puff

      @Thuggie Luvvie,

      i’ve discovered that a good way to get round the “i’m-african-i-don’t-know-hip-h0p-all-that-well” issue is to slowly introduce a dude to the wonders and splendours of african music. especially this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpTYLQ5K9w dance along to it too, and the nas vs. jay-z debate will somehow seem strangely superfluous… (nas wins, btw).

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @puff, i can’t watch the clip (youtube is blocked) but a chick who’s up on Fela is also hella impressive. mostly cuz folks are either DEEP into their fela kuti love or have never heard of him. there isn’t much middle ground.

        dude had like 40 albums…and i have all of them.

        i’m on the deep into their fela love side.

        • olivya23

          @Panama Jackson, dude had like 40 albums…and i have all of them.

          that’s definitely what’s up. I really feel like a lot of people sleep on Fela. We used to blast Fela on Saturdays in my household.

        • olivya23

          @Panama Jackson, dude had like 40 albums…and i have all of them.

          that’s definitely what’s up. I really feel like a lot of people sleep on Fela. We used to blast Fela on Saturdays in my household.

        • V.E.G.

          @Panama Jackson,

          I love Fela. And I stan for Femi. Sean is a hella performer. But Fela, yeah…

          And you are right: people either LOVE him or don’t know who he is.

          • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

            @V.E.G.,

            I know Fela but I don’t love him. But I wont deny his musical influence around the world. 2520s from ALL backgrounds know him and ish.

            He was like the African MJ.

            YUP. I said it.

          • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

            @V.E.G.,

            I know Fela but I don’t love him. But I wont deny his musical influence around the world. 2520s from ALL backgrounds know him and ish.

            He was like the African MJ.

            YUP. I said it.

          • V.E.G.

            @Thuggie Luvvie

            To know Fela is to love him. If you don’t love him, you don’t know him.

            YUP. I said it. :p

          • V.E.G.

            @Thuggie Luvvie

            To know Fela is to love him. If you don’t love him, you don’t know him.

            YUP. I said it. :p

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Thuggie Luvvie, He was like the African MJ.

            even down to the mysterious death…

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Thuggie Luvvie, He was like the African MJ.

            even down to the mysterious death…

          • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

            @V.E.G.,

            I stan for Femi.

            I saw him for the first time at a concert in New Haven…. I was HOOKED!!! Maybe because I was expecting to be disappointed (I mean with such a great father how can you follow through?) but I was pleasantly surprised!!!

            Sean is fun to watch as well, but the genre is different than his dad and brother (or is it brenemy? :))

          • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

            @V.E.G.,

            I stan for Femi.

            I saw him for the first time at a concert in New Haven…. I was HOOKED!!! Maybe because I was expecting to be disappointed (I mean with such a great father how can you follow through?) but I was pleasantly surprised!!!

            Sean is fun to watch as well, but the genre is different than his dad and brother (or is it brenemy? :))

        • V.E.G.

          @Panama Jackson,

          I love Fela. And I stan for Femi. Sean is a hella performer. But Fela, yeah…

          And you are right: people either LOVE him or don’t know who he is.

        • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

          @Panama Jackson,

          mostly cuz folks are either DEEP into their fela kuti love or have never heard of him. there isn’t much middle ground.

          That is sooo true! :)

        • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

          @Panama Jackson,

          mostly cuz folks are either DEEP into their fela kuti love or have never heard of him. there isn’t much middle ground.

          That is sooo true! :)

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @puff, i can’t watch the clip (youtube is blocked) but a chick who’s up on Fela is also hella impressive. mostly cuz folks are either DEEP into their fela kuti love or have never heard of him. there isn’t much middle ground.

        dude had like 40 albums…and i have all of them.

        i’m on the deep into their fela love side.

      • tempsoner

        @puff, no more superfluous than bringin up African music that wouldnt have been brought into the discussion had you not been so insecure about your knowledge of hip hop. So if one doesnt bring up hip hop you dont bring out the African music? Sounds like a pissing contest. Also I discuss hip hop from a social issue-as to the what were the conditions of America & NYC at the birth of the culture. How many of yall know that the “soundclashes” in the West Indies were brought to the states? Yall even know what a soundclash is? What is blues and R&B’s contribution to the formulation of rap? How about the music industries role in creating hip hop in an indirect way? Yall know the industry thought the DAT was the new music format device? Or what about Casablanca Records? I can go on for days. Lotta ppl ONLY know rap.

        • http://theyounganddisenchanted.wordpress.com/ puff

          @tempsoner,

          ummmmmm i mean that the dance moves to femi’s beng beng beng would make conversation in general superfluous, not that rap/hip hop culture itself is superfluous. nor am i insecure about my knowledge of hip hop, it was just a 9am joke. chill.

        • http://theyounganddisenchanted.wordpress.com/ puff

          @tempsoner,

          ummmmmm i mean that the dance moves to femi’s beng beng beng would make conversation in general superfluous, not that rap/hip hop culture itself is superfluous. nor am i insecure about my knowledge of hip hop, it was just a 9am joke. chill.

      • tempsoner

        @puff, no more superfluous than bringin up African music that wouldnt have been brought into the discussion had you not been so insecure about your knowledge of hip hop. So if one doesnt bring up hip hop you dont bring out the African music? Sounds like a pissing contest. Also I discuss hip hop from a social issue-as to the what were the conditions of America & NYC at the birth of the culture. How many of yall know that the “soundclashes” in the West Indies were brought to the states? Yall even know what a soundclash is? What is blues and R&B’s contribution to the formulation of rap? How about the music industries role in creating hip hop in an indirect way? Yall know the industry thought the DAT was the new music format device? Or what about Casablanca Records? I can go on for days. Lotta ppl ONLY know rap.

    • http://theyounganddisenchanted.wordpress.com/ puff

      @Thuggie Luvvie,

      i’ve discovered that a good way to get round the “i’m-african-i-don’t-know-hip-h0p-all-that-well” issue is to slowly introduce a dude to the wonders and splendours of african music. especially this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpTYLQ5K9w dance along to it too, and the nas vs. jay-z debate will somehow seem strangely superfluous… (nas wins, btw).

  • http://www.awesomelyluvvie.com Thuggie Luvvie

    Using these rules, I’m a D+ student, according to the men. WOMP.

    Besides. Can I get some “I’m African” credit for my un-thorough knowledge of hip hop? I mean, don’t get me wrong. I do like hip hop, but not enough to engage in no deep convo about it. I could tell you which artists make me wanna kick a kitten but I can’t wax philosophical about which artist was best lyrically, Rakim or KRS One.

    And cars? I just like the ones that are red and shiny. Guess I’m a 3 by this post.

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