Race & Politics

Great Expectations: Analysis & Debate on Drake's "Best I Ever Had" Video

0drakebuzzThe most difficult position to be in for any artist is for everybody to be paying attention to what you’re doing.  In the hip-hop/R&B/Black music community, right now, Drake is that dude.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I do not understand dude’s buzz.  He’s a good rapper/singer combo guard, but I’m just not wowed.  However, I have to come to homey’s defense right now since it seems like everybody and their mama is upset at young Drizzy for his video for “Best I Ever Had”.

(Video is most not-safe-for-work-safe-for-work video ever.)

I love this video, despite itself.

Huh?

Glad you asked.

In this Kanye West directed video there is basically no point.  In fact, the video doesn’t seem to have much in the way of a story or concept (though Drake did his BEST to give a bogus concept explanation to Complex magazine).  It seems the video’s main purpose was to show boobs-a-floppin’.

Glory day.

As soon as I saw the video I knew the sh*tstorm was coming.  Let’s run down the “problems” with the video, shall we?

- all the chicks are lightskint

- all the chick’s boobs are on display, pretty much throughout the video

- lots of gratuitous stretching, Rosa Acosta style shots

- no real point to the video, period

– lots of chexual innuendo (“take the D”)

- like most Kanye West videos, the video doesn’t relate to the song whatsoever

That’s a lot of fodder for discussion, but none of that is a good reason for it to be catching flack – hell it’s the general outline for most of today’s videos.  The reason he’s catching flack is this:  it’s the video for “Best I Ever Had”, the song that makes most women love the Young Angel.  With this one song, women everywhere who pretty much don’t care for most of today’s rap found the one man who acknowledged the ladies and put them on a pedestal even if in other songs he referencing women as ho*s.

That, and that alone is his biggest problem.  Women have expectations for Drake.  A while back I posited 10 reasons why women love Drake, and though I didn’t mention it, this song is largely the reason.  Women decided that Drake was the respectful savior to today’s generally exploitation heavy hip-hop while forgetting one simple fact.

Drake is still a man.

(I actually think the video is semi-genius; make the music for the ladies but make the videos for the men.  Great Gatsby!)

Once the video aired, many women were up in arms (I’ve stayed reading message boards about this because the response befuddles me, from women AND men).  How could Drake make such an “ignorantly, exploitative video”?  How come there are so many boobs?  How come all the boob-ers are light skinned?

Aside: I’ve often wondered if Black women would feel better if the exploitation was more diverse?  A lot of the arguments about videos is that all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women.  If they were all darkskint, would that be better?  Is exploitation more palatable as long as everybody gets their shot to be exploited?  Methinks not.  Then again, I didn’t think Jodeci would end up on crack.

From an artistic standpoint, the video adds absolutely nothing to the song.  In fact, the video just comes across as some sh*t they basically decided to do on a random Wednesday, and because they could, they called everybody they knew and just started rolling film with a bunch of litebrite models.  No harm, no foul really. And if it was anybody but Drake, this video would probably be written off as just another video that does nothing more than exist.  Kind of like a Plies video.

But this is Drake, hip-hop’s wunderkid.  He’s making music women can enjoy and appreciate without feeling like they’re betraying the gender.  He’s not supposed to be like every other rapper out there.  He’s wheelchair Jimmy for goodness’ sake.

Great expectations.

Poor guy, really.  First he gives a sh*tty performance on the national stage on BET, now he’s giving the boob treatment to his “respectful” chick song.

Oh well.  Score one more for mankind.  I personally don’t see the big deal.  Rather, I wonder what people were expecting?  Aside from this one song, most of his other songs fit right in with the “regular rapper mold”.  Plus he runs with Lil Wayne and Kanye – proprietor of the “Throw Some D’s” remix aimed at D-cups, not Daytons.

Perhaps, I’m being shortsighted.

download code name the cleaner online What say you?

Is the video backlash warranted?

day x dvd

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL, HE A 3

Filed Under: , , , ,
Damon Young

Panama Jackson is pretty fly for a light guy. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. He believes the children are our future and is waiting to find out if he is the 2nd most interesting man in the world.

  • shay_d_lady

    hmm I didnt think his explanation of the concept was bogus.. I mean thats what I got from watching it before I clicked to the article.
    I mean, he got a lot of ho’s on his team and all of them the best.. bouncing boobs, running and stretching **tada**!!!

    LOL I aint mad about it.. had you not posted the video it I would have never seen it anyway.. I mean I dont really watch music videos’ but that being said, I mean it aint the best but it definitely aint the worst….
    hell I still havent seen the “turn my swag” on joint from Soulja Boy after all the ruckus it caused…I think I will you tube that one to and see what all the fuss is about..
    people like to debate shyt and take a stand on bullshyt all the time.. this is nothing new, and when you have a lot of positive press and buzz you will get the negative.. eh..it happens
    I need him to go on and make a vid for that “successful” joint..
    thats my shyt…

    my post is random as hell…LOL

    • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

      @shay_d_lady, he REALLY needs to do a vid for “Sooner Than Later”…that would be the classique!

      But it would also be kinda wild to make yet a second vid for a free *ss album…

      • miss t-lee

        @Stuff Ghetto People Like,
        I think he and Lykke Li should make a vid for “Little Bit”.
        That would be hot.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @miss t-lee, gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there. i prefer the song and video in its original state, minus Drizzy.

          • miss t-lee

            @Panama Jackson,
            I like both versions. :) Her whole album is hot though.

      • Peysonic Temple

        @Stuff Ghetto People Like, He shoulda made a video for every song off that mixtape, except this one

  • The BDay GEM

    i dont watch music videos so this is my very 1st time seeing this. i don’t have large breasts but flopping/bouncing unsecured breasts don’t seem attractive to me. granted, i still pray for bigger, fuller breasts (nightly occasionally) but this vid made me think “ew is that what they’d look like in slow mo?? no thanks.” i’m not a dude or a dyke so i’m the vid clearly wasn’t made for ME…

    oh well. the more important issue is I’M CELEBRATING THE 26TH ANNIVERSARY OF MY MOTHER’S DECISION TO BIRTH ME!!!!!!! please see my e-mama (blackberry molasses) for an e-vite to the e-party.

    lets get it crackin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • maximillian

      @The BDay GEM,

      Happy Birthday..!

    • shay_d_lady

      @The BDay GEM, HAPPY BIRTHDAY GEM!!!!

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. backtolifebacktoreality….

      @The BDay GEM,

      Happy Birthday, GEM!!!!

    • http://thephiladelphianegro.blogspot.com/ ThePhiladelphiaNegro

      @The BDay GEM,

      Happy Born Day fam!

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses has to work today :(

      @The BDay GEM,

      Happy Birfday to my e-child! Everybody can come over for Sweet Eats and Treats in honor of Gemmie Pie.

      Luvvie… get on spray dance detail. She’s a broke grad student.

      • The BDay GEM

        @blackberry molasses has to work today :(,

        LOL

    • miss t-lee

      @The BDay GEM,
      Happy Birthday chick!

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

      @The BDay GEM,

      Happy Birthday, GEM!!! I remember when I was just a wee little 26 year old. Picture it, May 2008….

      lol. have fun today, GEM!

      • The BDay GEM

        @N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

        lmao @ “I remember when I was just a wee little 26 year old. Picture it, May 2008….”

        thanks spel sis!

        • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

          @The BDay GEM,

          lol. i just realized i gave b-day greetings earlier this morning. it was obviously before i had my cheese grits and oj… not that juiceman

    • IVR

      @The BDay GEM, Happy Bornday Gemmie

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @The BDay GEM, happy b-day.

      but how is your birthday more important than the sociological breakdown of the society’s socialization, huh?

      lol. i wonder if that actually means anything.

      • The BDay GEM

        @Panama Jackson,

        is that your way of wishing me a happy birthday?? if so, thanks my fellow mixtie!!

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @The BDay GEM, well yes, your birthday is the day of all things good.

          and gooder.

          • The BDay GEM

            @Panama Jackson,

            :)

    • An Island

      @The BDay GEM

      Happy birthday!

    • The BDay GEM

      @The BDay GEM,

      thanks for all the bday love my VSB fam!!!! ‘preciate the love (i need it today since i’m stuck at work!! *side eye*)

    • http://www.kindredsmile.blogspot.com Kindred Smile

      @The BDay GEM, Happy Birthday honey!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @The BDay GEM,

      happy b-day and sh*t, and may your birthday be a very masculine birthday.

      • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

        @The Champ,

        LOL!

      • The BDay GEM

        @The Champ,

        why thank you Champikins.

    • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

      @The BDay GEM,

      Happy B-Day!!

    • overit?

      @The BDay GEM, Happy Bday e-twin, mama bbmo and I got something special planned for you!!

      • The BDay GEM

        @overit?,

        i love me e-fam!!!!!!!! *hugs*

      • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

        @overit?,

        baby, remember there will be no Stanky Leggin’ in this danceree….

        *whispers * and I booked King Britt to DJ

        • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

          @blackberry molasses,

          “there will be no Stanky Leggin’ in this danceree….”

          Damn! *walks off downtrodden*

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

            @Me fail english?,

            okay, okay… ONE Stanky Legg allowed. Everybody gets ONE.

  • http://thismayconcernyou.com thismayconcernyou

    I tried to make some sense of the vid (Of course, I’m not too opposed to it because I’m a guy) and give Drake the benefit of the doubt. I tried to tie the song to the vid. But it’s impossible.

    That’s where Drake lost it. His explanation sounded like something Sarah Palin might say. Really, though, I feel bad for him because it’s his first vid, and he was dumb enough to let Kanye direct it. The camerawork is crappy throughout.

    But hey … that’s what you get.

    The light/dark mess some women have sparked up is hilarious. I don’t get it at all.

    • http://lizburr.com Liz

      @thismayconcernyou, u think the camerawork is bad? how so?

      im just asking cuz when i was a wee tike i wanted to be the next little x, the next hype williams and i think for the most part kanye’s direction seems pretty standard fare: capture some bubbies bouncing and call it a day. I’m pretty sure I have seen much worse camerawork on BET UnCut….

      • http://thismayconcernyou.com thismayconcernyou

        @Liz,

        Let’s just say it was unCut-ish … lol.

    • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

      @thismayconcernyou,

      “I tried to make some sense of the vid (Of course, I’m not too opposed to it because I’m a guy) and give Drake the benefit of the doubt. I tried to tie the song to the vid. But it’s impossible.”

      I sorta like how he blended sports with sexay time (the sport was sort of a metaphor), but I think he sorta fell short on the follow through. I didn’t truly get it ’til the “take the D” line…I have an inclination as to where he was going, but I don’t think he got there. lol

      • Omar

        @Cheekie,

        “I didn’t truly get it ’til the “take the D” line…I have an inclination as to where he was going, but I don’t think he got there. lol”

        Yeah, he was trying to hard with that line because it really makes no basketball sense.

        I guess the sports angle was the only way he could tie-in the random stretching, even though I’ve never seen anyone do a split before they played basketball maybe they should’ve tried gymnastics.

        The best line was “but Drake, all you taught us how to do is stretch” lmao!

        Otherwise the video was bad simply because it took a lot of effort to do nothing, for all that he could’ve shown random chics in bikinis running (bouncing up and down) on the beach for 5 minutes it would’ve had the same effect.

    • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

      @thismayconcernyou,

      I think the cinematography is rather good. I especially liked the scene where the mascot dunks the ball and how it was captured. The eye-candy shots are done well and they really “sell” what the video is about. The entire slow motion feel of the video really pulls the viewer in to hang on each of the visuals also.

      Job well done Kanye.

  • Dante_Alexander

    Before hearing the explanation, I thought the same thing Drake actually said. Really. That was my take on it from jump.

    I think the criticism is boolsheet, but I’ll wait until I’m less than 4 sheets to the wind to give my response.

    I’ll see you all in the morning when there’s like 70 responses at 7 AM.

    P.S. Next time I hear another chick talkin that boolsheet about it being too many light skinned wazy haired chicks in the video, I’mm bring up the fact that it ain’t been a regular light skint leading dude since the S-Curl went out. All y’all wanted for yeears was “tall dark and handsome”… So if yall can have y’all way, gimme my Brazilian yoga instructors doing vertical hurdler stretches while the Puerto Rican/Italian/Colombiana mix holds her legs firmly. Thank you, Drake.

    • shay_d_lady

      @Dante_Alexander, Before hearing the explanation, I thought the same thing Drake actually said. Really. That was my take on it from jump.

      me too

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Dante_Alexander, Thank you, Drake.

      that pretty much sums up my entire opinion on the video, actually.

  • http://lizburr.com Liz

    As a well endowed former women’s basketball player i don’t take great offense to the video. Mostly because I know this is c learly fantasy. There is NO WAY any chick with that much boobage could play GOOD basketball and wear them skimpy tops. NO WAY. You can’t play any good D like that. You ain’t takin nobody to the basket with all that flip floppin around like that. This explains the need to have this video in slow mo AND have a bunch of sucky players because in regular play it woudl look a hot mess and in regular play in these outfits there is no winning. Or at least, not as nice as it looks in slow mo. I just think Kanye was lookin for something to spend money on and he thought hey why not some big boobs playing basketball, end of story.

    Drake, I am not that huge a fan of. Yeah I like half his mixtape. I have another mixtape of his but am not interested in listening to it. I see right through his lil babyface nice guy shenanigans too. He ain’t foolin me.

    • http://stuffghettopeoplelike.wordpress.com Stuff Ghetto People Like

      @Liz, (after reading the 8-word start of your reply)

      Damn you for moving to NYC.

      That is all.

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @Stuff Ghetto People Like, LOL!

    • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

      @Liz,

      “There is NO WAY any chick with that much boobage could play GOOD basketball ”

      Well that’s why they lost.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Me fail english?, naw, they lost cuz all they could do was stretch.

        and they were shorter en masse than the other team.

        and Drake was their coach.

        and his best advice (which is actually pretty good advice if you think about it) was to take that D.

        so i guess the better question is…

        …how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?

        how come nobody’s asking THAT question?

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

          @Panama Jackson,
          …how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?

          how come nobody’s asking THAT question?

          good point.

        • maximillian

          @Panama Jackson, “…how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?”

          They were the best, remember?

          • The BDay GEM

            @maximillian,

            LOL apparently not really…

          • maximillian

            @The BDay GEM,

            See Drake played tricks ran game like the Knicks, built them up just to lose the championship.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @maximillian, ah yes, how soon we forget.

        • K to the…

          @Panama Jackson,

          how in the flying F*CK did they get to the championship game in the first place?

          I was wondering the same thing after the video ended. 1st round bye? Naw…they sucked? Maybe it was the boobies!

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

            @K to the…,

            definitely the boobies. boobies have magical powers.

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

      @Liz,

      as a former big booby baller, i dare say you are correct. hell, i used to wear 2 sports bras until i found a good one that kept Thelma and Louise under control….

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., LOL Yup. Always had to double up. It wasn’t fun lolol.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., fyi…

        big booby ballers sounds like a reality kings site in the making.

        • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

          @Panama Jackson,

          i think that site already exists…at least thats what my homeboy told me….

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall…., dammit, i’m always a day late and a dollar short.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….,

            i think that site already exists…at least thats what my homeboy told me…

            actually, it doesn’t. “ballhoneys”? yeah. “big booby ballers”? no

    • K to the…

      @Liz,

      As treasurer of the IBTC (Itty Bitty T!tty Committee) and current hooper…I must say that I don’t necessarily feel your pain with the “well-endowment” but you are correct. There’s no way I could hoop in the ish those chicks were wearing.

      Now if I’m doing some role playing with my man…that’s another story. lol

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Liz,

      You can’t play any good D like that.

      so you cant use the d’s on d? i’d imagine theyd be an asset because the other chicks would be trying to avoid em, kind of like how nobody wants to guard the random too hairy shirtless dude at the park

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @The Champ, LOl stawp it. You can use Ds on D however you gotta make sure theyre strapped and in place. They can’t be jigglin around…

    • http://hunnybeezhive.blogspot.com Beez

      @Liz,

      Not to mention, that ish hurts– having to double up and whatnot so you don’t knock your head off just to get your cardio in. Running, jumping jacks, light stretches — they just get in the way!

  • Selah

    I might be one of the only chicks who liked this video…. I thought it was funny. “But Drake you only taught us how to stretch!” …. iDied. I mean… he isn’t going to win any awards for this (well, he might on BET), but as for entertainment – he’s got that part down. lol

    • The BDay GEM

      @Selah,

      LOL iDied @ that part too!!!!

      • Selah

        @The BDay GEM,

        Happy BDAY!!! (at least i hope it’s your bday lol) … and yes, the vid had its funny parts.

        • The BDay GEM

          @Selah,

          thank you!!

    • shay_d_lady

      @Selah, I thought it was funny too…LMAO

      • Selah

        @shay_d_lady,

        right?!? the “take that D” part was dumb azz hell…. but there were def some funny parts… let Drake live peoples!! lol

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Selah, i actually think he sucks highly on the entertaining part. for an actual actor, he comes across as having pretty much zero charisma on film.

      which is strange b/c he sounds like a charming enough fella in all of his radio interviews.

      • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

        @Panama Jackson,

        I agree. He seems like a very charming fellow with no acting chops to speak of. Come to think of it, everyone on Degrassi was pretty bad except the gay guys.

      • shay_d_lady

        @Panama Jackson, , i actually think he sucks highly on the entertaining part. for an actual actor, he comes across as having pretty much zero charisma on film.

        I mean the acting and shyt was terrible, true but it still made me laugh…
        but that zero charisma is true..

    • Omar

      @Selah,
      Shit, the NAACP would prolly give dude an image award… they gave one to everyone else…

  • nia

    Ok, gonna comment cuz I’m up…and I can!

    This is my first time seeing this as well. Eh…it’s no different than every other video. Just more “in your face”, literally and figuratively. Seems like he just wanted to get people talkin…which he’s succeeded in doin. I take comfort in knowin all dem heffas boobs will be down to their kneecaps in 30 years. Or their hair will be falling out from silicone poisoning. I would be fine with either one.

    Heh…heh…heh..(cough, weeze)…heh…

    I’s sleepy…

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @nia,

      I take comfort in knowin all dem heffas boobs will be down to their kneecaps in 30 years. Or their hair will be falling out from silicone poisoning. I would be fine with either one.

      i guess its true that haters don’t sleep, lol

  • http://brandonsaintrandy.wordpress.com Brandon St. Randy

    Here’s the deal. Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude. He’s light-skinned, wears a Cardigan, is middle upper class, and seems like he would be respectful to his momma, but is somehow still just hood enough to kick it with Cash Money. You know how women always get mad cause they say we want a woman who “Looks like Halle Berry, Cooks like B.Smith, and f*cks like Superhead?” Well, that’s what Drake is to them: The statistically unlikely combination of the mutually exclusive factors they really like: The Magical Negro if you will. No one gave a damn about David Banner’s Play video (lawd hah muhcy, it’s some fine pieces of woman in dat dere) or would if Drake looked like Rick Ross. But he doesn’t. He wears peacoats. He has a winnign smile. He could be al B. sure’s stunt double. And as women often do, they built up a narrative about this dude to fit their fantasies. And as men often do, he disappointed. Not because he did anything particularly wrong. But because some women’s expectations were so wildly out of line with reality. They got so caught up thinking this was gonna be a romantic comedy, they’re devastated that it turned into Streets Is Watching 2. And that’s a dumb ass disillusionment if you ask me because dude’s other song is I WISH I COULD F*** EVERY GIRL IN THE WORLD! And y’all think this is going to be a Maxwell video? F*** is wrong with you people.

    • The BDay GEM

      @Brandon St. Randy,

      ummmm cardigans tho???? i’on think so!!!

      besides the fact drake is NOT attractive. the cardigan look makes him look ~4pts uglier. so he’s at like a -1 right now on my scale.

      • miss t-lee

        @The BDay GEM,
        Yeah cardigans are NOT the business.
        Unless you’re Mr. Rogers (RIP)

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @miss t-lee,

          “Yeah cardigans are NOT the business.
          Unless you’re Mr. Rogers (RIP)”

          Exactly. Unless you’re changing your shoes in the morning on TV, cooly tossing one shoe from the left hand to the right hand and talking to puppets named after the days of the week, then you should NOT be rocking cardigans.

          Plus, the word itself sounds lame by default. Cardigan? You sound like your name is Mercel or some ish.

          • miss t-lee

            @Cheekie,
            “You sound like your name is Mercel or some ish.”

            I’m so mad at you right now, I almost spit out my freggin’ coffee….lol
            Dayum!

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @Cheekie,

            “Unless you’re changing your shoes in the morning on TV, cooly tossing one shoe from the left hand to the right hand and talking to puppets named after the days of the week, then you should NOT be rocking cardigans.”

            BWAHAHHAHHAHAHA!

      • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

        @The BDay GEM,

        Yeah, I’d like to have a sit down with all these anonymous women that find Drake sooo attractive. Who wants a ninja in a cardigan?

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @Me fail english?, dammit.

          *heading back to OshKoshB’Gosh to return all of my cardigans and striped train engineer overalls*

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @Panama Jackson,

            Take the conductor hat and necktie too!

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @Panama Jackson,

            “OshKoshB’Gosh”

            Just this name alone can send me into a fit of giggles. It oozes corny.

        • The BDay GEM

          @Me fail english?,

          indeed. i think this statement about these so-called mythical Drake-loving women need MORE PPL.

          • http://brandonsaintrandy.wordpress.com Brandon St. Randy

            @The BDay GEM, No. It just needs all the woman I’ve seen at every bbq and house party this spring getting all googy eyed and singing “Every Girl” all nodding their heads and shit. If there weren’t all these “Mythical Drake Loving women”, this wouldn’t be a topic of conversation. It would just be some titties in a video. Dudes would approve and flat chested women would suck their teeth and that would be it. The only reason there’s some expectation of it being more woman-friendly is because women ARE into this dude (or at least think he represents some pro-woman sensitive ethos). It may not be you, but they are out there tough. Check the femblogs.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Me fail english?,

          “Who wants a ninja in a cardigan?”

          you know, this was actually the original title of “black boy” until richard wright’s agent convinced him otherwise

          • miss t-lee

            @The Champ,
            I just laughed until I coughed…
            I can’t stand you!!! :)

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @The Champ,

            LOL. This is almost sacrilege.

      • A Plus

        @The BDay GEM, yeah, drake isn’t all that good looking. i mean, he’s a 5 on my scale. women letting that light skin fool them…

    • Nola Darling

      @Brandon St. Randy,

      “Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude”

      This is a falsehood. Dude isn’t even a blip on the radar. He’s like a Canal St. knockoff. It looks real from a distance but when you get close up to it you realize its a phony. His whole “swagger” is inherited not inherent and that is anti-cute.

      • charli skipper

        @Nola Darling,
        “His whole “swagger” is inherited not inherent and that is anti-cute.”

        cooooooooooo-sign. i hate it when wack people feel the need to have swagger.

      • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

        @Nola Darling,

        No buttchex…but statements like that are starting to convince me that men find Drake more physically attractive than men do. Its usually a man commenting on his physical appeal while the females are oddly silent or in disagreement. Men give light skinned points to other men too?

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

          @Me fail english?,

          Men give light skinned points to other men too?

          Inquiring minds want to know….

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @blackberry molasses,

            Here’s my theory. I always used to think men were lying when they’d say “I don’t know if he looks good! I dont judge other dudes!” Id be all “Yeah right. You’ve got eyes, how can you not be able to tell.”

            But I’m starting to think there’s some truth to this. Men have no idea what another good looking man is til we tell them. Like they just see light-skinted dudes and be like “Man, I bet Sinbad gets all the bishes!”

            I actually think Drake is squarely in “unattractive” territory. I won’t call him “ugly” because that’s such a mean word.

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @me fail,

            “Like they just see light-skinted dudes and be like “Man, I bet Sinbad gets all the bishes!””

            *clutching tummy*

            LOL, stop!! Got me having flashbacks of his reddish curly high-top fade and his gutterbut tummy overlapping his pants belt on A Different World. Those were the days.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @me fail,

            “Here’s my theory. I always used to think men were lying when they’d say “I don’t know if he looks good! I dont judge other dudes!” Id be all “Yeah right. You’ve got eyes, how can you not be able to tell.”

            But I’m starting to think there’s some truth to this. Men have no idea what another good looking man is til we tell them.”

            thing is, what women find attractive is so arbitrary and variable that you can’t expect a man to be able to make that determination. we have no idea because there’s really no consensus.

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @The Champ,

            You’re right about different women’s taste being all over the place. But in reference to Drake, I’ve heard quite a few men remark he’s a nice looking guy and almost NO women say it. Consensus is really hard to come by, but I think we’re pretty close on this one.

            So why do men think Drake is so appealing? Cuz he’s tall and light skinned? Is it the cardigans and peacoats?? I’ve gotta know!

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @Me fail english?, i won’t go as far as to say that any women i know were looking at him physically. in fact, no women i know have made any real, “drake is good-lookin” comments.

          however, most of the discussions i’ve had about Drake have occurred with women who have asked me if i’d heard of him, this song, or knew anything else about him since they love his music so much.

          i actually think that if Drake was better looking (face it, he has mediocre face…perhaps he’s a 3, like me?), he’d be even bigger than he currently is.

          same argument for The-Dream. if he was better looking he’d be selling millions instead of writing million-sellers for other people.

          in FACT, i contend that if Usher had The-Dream’s first album, it would have sold 10 mil.

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @Panama Jackson,

            On a side note: How UN-sexy is Dream and Milian’s Vibe cover. I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham

          • The BDay GEM

            @Me fail english?

            lmao @ “I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham”

            seriously, that cover is a wildly horrifically ghastly disturbingly un-sexy sight.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Me fail English?, that cover is horrific. that photo is everything that’s wrong with education in 12 countries and Cambodia.

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

            the teddy graham reference is disturbing… because i love them with apple juice.

            *rocks in a corner*

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @me fail english?,

            “On a side note: How UN-sexy is Dream and Milian’s Vibe cover. I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham”

            HAHAHA!

            GIRL, YES. If any two things cancel each other out, it’s them two. Like how in thee world did this happen? I mean, I KNOW why she’s messin’ with him, but I just know, ya know? lol

            His face disturbs me. There’s something off about it, like his facial features aren’t in the right spots. A “Mr. Potato Head Conundrum” of sorts.

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @blackberry molasses,

            Dream is what I imagine The Berenstain Bears would look like in a live action film. I find it completely unecessary and in bad taste for him to be topless in the pic.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            On a side note: How UN-sexy is Dream and Milian’s Vibe cover. I feel like she’s being violated by a Teddy Graham

            i get every comment emailed to me, and when i first read that at 10:30 i laughed so hard i actually made myself dizzy. good job

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @me fail,

            “Dream is what I imagine The Berenstain Bears would look like in a live action film. ”

            LMAO! Yes. See, you don’t dredged up my lifelong dream from way back. I remember when I read these books how I wanted a life-action feature of it. He straight up should play a bear. Ol’ Teddy Ruxpin self.

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @Cheekie,

            *dead* @ Teddy Ruxpin. I was thinking that too. Like they should only dress that ninja in red sweaters and have him read songs out a book.

          • shay_d_lady

            @Panama Jackson, same argument for The-Dream. if he was better looking he’d be selling millions instead of writing million-sellers for other people.

            in FACT, i contend that if Usher had The-Dream’s first album, it would have sold 10 mil.

            I gotta co sign he is like a lame munchkin.. much like bobby Valentino you can tell they were the lame chubby dudes in highschool with s curls trying desperately to gain social status by singing….

            ughhh and he is g.a.y nttawwt

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Nola Darling,

        His whole “swagger” is inherited not inherent and that is anti-cute.

        lol, so you either have swagger from birth or you don’t? all those swag-less 4 year olds should probably just give up then

      • A Plus

        @Nola Darling, *Preach*

    • shay_d_lady

      @Brandon St. Randy, dude’s other song is I WISH I COULD F*** EVERY GIRL IN THE WORLD! And y’all think this is going to be a Maxwell video? F*** is wrong with you people.

      LMAO..is there really anything else that needs to be said?

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @shay_d_lady, i also wonder how that little tid-bit gets lost in the Drake shuffle.

        this is worse than when everybody thought Jon Legend’s first album was any good b/c of “ordinary people” when it was really just an average ass album. Jon Legend’s first album was basically a Carl Thomas album in drag.

        • ChiChi

          @Panama Jackson, Speak on it! Let’s name more overrated albums. I’ll take Alicia Keye’s first album for $500 Alex!

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @ChiChi, we dont have the time. but her 3 albums are probably in the top 3.

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @Panama Jackson,

          “Jon Legend’s first album was basically a Carl Thomas album in drag.”

          *pause*

          *busts out laughing*

          Hate you, Pan. HATE.

        • shay_d_lady

          @Panama Jackson, this is worse than when everybody thought Jon Legend’s first album was any good b/c of “ordinary people” when it was really just an average ass album. Jon Legend’s first album was basically a Carl Thomas album in drag.

          okay this was funny…LMAO
          but I liked Johns first album, it was really good in my opinion.. you can put it on and play it all the way through was it a great album? no, but it was good…
          but then maybe so was carl thomas’s I dont remember anything about that album but summer rain and so emotional…

          • miss t-lee

            @shay_d_lady,
            “but then maybe so was carl thomas’s I dont remember anything about that album but summer rain and so emotional…”

            LOL–I’m tired of ya’ll throwing Carl under the bus. That first album was hot from start to finish.
            Any albums after that…wacktacular.

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @miss t-lee,

            Yeah, my sister and I STILL bump that Carl Thomas.

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses has to work today :(

      @Brandon St. Randy,

      I didn’t even finish reading this. iDied at “Drake, The Magic Negro”
      To the tune of Puff the Magic Dragon:
      Drake, the magic Negro.
      Jimmy from Degrassi.
      Used to hang out in a wheelchair
      Now makes vids with gratuitous tiddays….

      Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

      • The BDay GEM

        @blackberry molasses has to work today :(,

        lmao!!!!!!

    • miss t-lee

      @Brandon St. Randy,
      “Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude”

      No.

      “No one gave a damn about David Banner’s Play video ”

      I did…I was looking at my baby daddy!!! :)
      (Admitted David Banner stan)

      • pinksghetti

        @miss t-lee,

        Me too. David Banner is hot and smart.

        • miss t-lee

          @pinksghetti,
          Yes ma’am.

      • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

        @miss t-lee,

        I’ll join the list of David Banner’s stans.

        I believe it’s a Texas (or southern) thing. :)

        • miss t-lee

          @Sula,
          I told you I got to touch his head at a concert back in December right?

          (the one on top of his shoulders…lol)

          Merry Christmas to me.

          • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

            @miss t-lee,

            Yes. And I am still jealous.

            (although the other head wouldn’t be half-bad to touch either…. *starts dream sequence*)

          • miss t-lee

            @miss t-lee,
            (although the other head wouldn’t be half-bad to touch either…. *starts dream sequence*)

            *daps*

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @miss t-lee,

            “I told you I got to touch his head at a concert back in December right?”

            We’ve just about had it with you T-Lee! Pack your e-shet and get outta here!!

            *Hates, hates, hates ooooonnn….*

          • miss t-lee

            @Me fail english?
            *giggling loudly*

            Don’t start posting my mock facebook comments again….lol
            or was that Cheekie? I can’t remember.

          • http://www.twitter.com/lala_land84 Me fail english?

            @miss t-lee,

            I think it was me. But who really knows. I’m not really sure what the difference between me and Cheekie is either…

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            *cracking up at this entire exchange*

            I love ya’ll.

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

            @miss t-lee,

            is this the fun shyt i miss while in meetings

            *glares at agenda and promptly throws it in the trash*

          • miss t-lee

            @ blackberry molasses
            Ding dang meetings!!

      • The BDay GEM

        @miss t-lee,

        there’s something about David Banner that is very sexy!!! i liked the Play vid. i thought it was sexy and naughty–made me wanna get my fitness in and drip sweat!! real talk, that song is on my workout playlist.

        • miss t-lee

          @The BDay GEM,
          You have heard the original version right? It’s absolutely filthy…but that’s good. :)
          I have the part of the chorus as a ringtone on my phone…the line that says “don’t play with it “.

          Oh yeah…he’s very sexy in person.

          • The BDay GEM

            @miss t-lee,

            yes, the dirty version is actually whats in the playlist LOL

          • miss t-lee

            @The BDay GEM ,

            *daps*

      • 8th Wonder

        mmmm, David Banner.

        I need a moment.

        I can barely watch that play video without…needing a moment.

        And so ends 8th’s TMI comment for the day

        • miss t-lee

          @8th Wonder,
          That makes two of us….lol

        • overit?

          @8th Wonder, co-sign!

        • shay_d_lady

          @8th Wonder, Yes… david is s.e.xy as hell!!!
          that thugelligence….mmmmhmmmmm

    • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. LivingLifeOffTheWall….

      @Brandon St. Randy,
      Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude.
      nope. not at all. where do you meet these women?

      No one gave a damn about David Banner’s Play video
      i did. but then again, i actually care about how black women are portrayed in the media…i’m weird like that. and Play the song, was lyrically more crude than Every Girl…just my humble opinion. perhaps Drake is catching more heat b/c he is new, and that some people (men and women) expected him to be different from the rest. well, we already know that sexx sells, so why should he do anything different?

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Brandon St. Randy, Drake was every woman (especially every kinda bougie-ish woman)’s dream new dude.

      i agree in theory, but i think in reality, b/c he sings SO much and can rap, and all his songs are generally woman friendly (kind of), women viewed him as the alternative to current overly misogynistic hip-hop. even when he calls women ho*s in songs, you don’t really believe he means it. in fact, i envision him trying to justify it to his mother and then hugging her and apologizing while sipping on chai tea and patting his puppy on the head.

      really, his music persona and his interview/off-stage persona seem to conflict.

      i lost my point somewhere.

    • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

      @Brandon St. Randy,

      You are hilarious!!

      I haven’t watched the video yet… but I know for a fact that the scenario you described is what mostly played out…

  • Nola Darling

    “all the women are light, ethnically ambiguous to white looking women”

    So is Drake.

    I completely missed the hype on dude. He is the equivalent of the Pet Rock. I get it he’s popular, all the pretty girls wanna be on his team.

    Shout out to Dante_Alexander for introducing me to the word boolsheet. LOL. I hear Rob Schnieder’s character(the delivery guy) in Big Daddy saying this.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Nola Darling, Drake’s not ethnically ambiguous.

      he’s just like Vin Diesel.

    • http://kamakula.wordpress.com kamakula

      @Nola Darling,

      I was going to bring up the same point. Drake himself is light-skinned, why does it matter if all the women in his video are as well?

      Who exactly is bringing up this complaint? Do dark skinned women feel that they are not being properly represented as video hos? I mean, if Al-Qeda was only going after white girls, would these same complaints of some sort of bias or discrimination be raised?

      • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

        @kamakula,

        As a dark-skinned woman, I don’t really get that whole debate anyways… For the past 5 years, there have been more dark-skinned “successful” video hos than the opposite… And what does it even prove or mean?

        I think this argument is slowly becoming like the Nazi-Jewish one. It ends the debate because there is no where to go after it’s stated.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Sula,

          I think this argument is slowly becoming like the Nazi-Jewish one.

          ***the vsb analogy committee is officially confused by this comparison, and needs sula to resubmit her application with an explanation***

          • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula

            @The Champ,

            Lol! You know what they say… As soon as someone brings up the Holocaust (or the Bible) as an explanation for something, there is nowhere to go really…

            Or is that not known knowledge? Oops, my bad to the VSB committee then. :)

          • http://kamakula.wordpress.com kamakula

            @The Champ,

            Come on Champ, you know Godwin’s law.

  • http://www.itssaulewright.blogspot.com Saule Wright

    Perfect title, that’s why the criticism came. Drake was looked upon as the breath of fresh air in the game and the promising look of tomorrow. He turned out to be just like the rest. Premature? Maybe. Hearing the song was already a conflict…I liked how it sounded when I heard it, but didn’t like it so much when I listened. ………imma give you time for that one…….

    Ok. So once you get passed that, and you try to prop him up, you see the video and his performance on the BET awards, and you feel like you’ve been bamboozled. Even Latifah was left copping pleas trying to defend her like for him after the awards show.

    Hip Hop is under attack, we are dying to find someone that can be different, cool, good AND successful. Lets examine….

    Kanye….the ego, whining, and 808′s of it all leave us confused. Lyrically, he’s not the best, we can’t really deny that. Shout out to the auntie team. So he’s different and successful. Cool, depends on the topic and good…well, that’s not really up for debate is it? He’s fun, but lyrically, I wouldn’t pick him for my starting 5.

    Lupe…retiring 3 albums in is not a good look for a legend. Lyrically, he’s dope. He’s good, I’d go BEYOND good, I’d say great. Cool, hey, he is the cool right…skateboard rhetoric may hurt that for some and his whole midnight marauder problem may hurt even more. Successful….not like he should be. I think he’s done enough to make folks mention his name, but not enough to make us KEEP mentioning his name.

    Common…Lyrically, fantastic. Cool, hey, outside of the crocheted pants and UMC, he was gold right? Different, I don’t know that Common has shot anyone on wax since his first album (I may be wrong though, but it’s not his hallmark even if he has). Successful…see…..he STILL doesn’t have one platinum album. Jay said people lie, numbers don’t. We can change Commons name and use this for most of the artists that have come out beyond the Golden Age.

    I could go on and on. But I have to mention one more. Weezy…
    the jury is still out on him for most of the world. Those of us that listen know that Weezy has the talent (see Dr. Carter as an example) to do some good things that capture Hip Hop….he also has the ability to say things like “I’m so high I can eat a star.” Is he cool…I guess. If you like skinny jeans, tussin and various drugs, he may be the benchmark. Different, not anymore. I mean, sure you know when you hear Weezy on a track…but the autotune/vocoder nonsense spread like the chicken pox and nowadays, I can’t tell him from Ron Browz or most of these other cats that use that thing. Successful? Well, I can’t argue with that at all. He’s young and just had the highest selling album of 2008 and probably most official releases in one year ever.

    Sorry, I went on a rant. What I’m trying to say is that Drake’s talent and showing on Comeback Season had us seeing more than what was there. This video showed us that what we want don’t really matter.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Saule Wright, i ALWAYS catch flack for saying this, but i REALLY don’t get the hype on Lupe Fiasco…at all.

      now i own both of his albums (bought them to show support) but upon listening, he’s somebody i don’t understand the undying love for. at least Drake is somewhat interesting (though its not saying much to be more interesting than Lupe to me).

      Lupe benefits from positive by not being negative to me. at the time when he showed up, he stood in stark contrast to the standard fare of the day so he seemed…different. he got the jay cosign, but really, his first album sucked monkey nuts, save for ‘kick, push’.

      i like the 2nd album…more. but even still, i’m just not sold on him either.

      • http://www.itssaulewright.blogspot.com Saule Wright

        @Panama Jackson,

        really? Lyrically, that dude has some serious lines. Now his asthmatic breathing-flow style hurts my soul, but his flow is pretty impeccable. American Terrorist is one of the dopest songs to come out in the past 10 years. I’d say give him more spins. I think that yeah, he doesn’t have the charisma of Drake, thus another knock on being cool.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @Saule Wright, i’ve listened to him ad nauseum. mostly b/c i was trying to hear what everybody else heard. i just ain’t feeling wasalu.

          • http://carverthegreat.wordpress.com Carver The Great!

            @Panama Jackson, @Saule Wright,

            who DO you think is nice then?…and why?

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Carver The Great!, i’m a jay fan, nas fan, kanye fan…

            but if i had to come up with my top mc’s

            andre 3000 – he’s better in one verse than most folks catalogs, he just takes too long to give you verse
            biggie (he dead tho) – cuz he just was
            jay – cuz there are more quotable jay lines than any other rapper…you can hav ea whole convo with jay lines
            royce da 5’9 – he’s just a monster on the mic, period, i actually check for all of slaughterhouse (as a group)
            kanye west – great rapper or not, dude has lines for days when he’s not singing…i actually think he’s a very good rapper at this point

            that’s it for now…

        • http://www.stankoniforous.blogspot.com Stank-0

          @Saule Wright,

          I damn near wore American Terrorist out. That is Lupe’s track to peep. Kick, Push is the radio jawn…but A.T. is that joint.

    • http://lmbao.org Dorian G.

      @Saule Wright,

      I’m sorry but I can’ t take u seriously if you’re gonna dismiss Kanye’s talent like that.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Dorian G., yeah, i’m with you.

      • http://www.itssaulewright.blogspot.com Saule Wright

        @Dorian G.,

        Hey, I enjoy Kanye, I’m just not ready to give him the Lyricist Award yet.

    • Omar

      @Saule Wright,

      “Lupe…retiring 3 albums in is not a good look for a legend.”

      I’ll believe that when I see it, I think Jay was supposed to retire after 1, then 2 and then 3 and so on and so on… now he is an indie artist or something like that…

      Most rappers normally go out like most athletes they are either cut or they get older and tired.

    • http://www.stankoniforous.blogspot.com Stank-0

      @Saule Wright,

      I think you laid your game down quite flat. That’s hip hop’s dilemma. A breath of fresh air that can become the new Jay, basically.

      We forget that Jay had the game on smash after Vol. II until a few years ago. Hip hop needs a hegemon. Patent pending.