Gender-Based Double Standards That Need To Stay Double Standards

The typical first questions a woman wants to know about her friend’s new boo-thang involves a rundown of his resume. What he is (degrees, titles) seem to outweigh who he is (loving, supportive, etc). Questions like, “How does he treat you?” or “What do you feel when you’re with him?” don’t matter for some women.

Men, however, don’t do this. Maybe they focus more on other superficial things like a woman’s appearance, but her resume never factors into if he’ll date her or how his friend’s will judge her.

This quote is from “But He Works at Starbucks!” — a recent Clutch Magazine piece where the author (Patrice J. Williams) expresses a bit of angst about her new love interest’s relatively underwhelming occupation and explains that the source of much of her angst is her worrying about what her girlfriends will think about him. (Sound familiar?)

You’re probably expecting me to use these next couple paragraphs to tell another “Boy meets Girl” story where I’d talk about how short-sighted, faulty, and hypocritical it is for women to judge a man’s sexual/relationship worthiness on his status (and somehow find a way to fill my weekly “unprompted shade at Deltas” quota).

But, while I think this particular instance is an example of a woman, the author’s homegirl, being more concerned with appearances than ambition – like a few said in the comments there, a Starbucks manager could be pulling in 45-50 a year with full benefits and a chance to rise up the ladder at one of the country’s biggest companies – I don’t think it’s wrong for women to consider potential future earning power when deciding who to invite to meet Miss Sweet n Low. (Btw, “Miss Sweet n Low” is the name that I think all single women should give their vaginas. When married? “The Harvest Festival.”)

Yeah, as the author points out, it’s a double standard, but it’s a double standard that I don’t want made “equal.” I actually don’t mind the fact that we’re judged on something we have a bit of control over. Plus, let them (women) continue to worry about vague and boring shit like whether he can be a protector and provider for the children she’s never going to actually have because she waited until her 53rd birthday to get hitched, and let us (men) continue to fret about fun shit like “If we lose all of our furniture in a flood, is her booty big enough to serve as a temporary coffee table until we get the check from State Farm?”

The Starbucks situation aside, can you think of any other double standards that need to stay exactly how they are? Are you completely cool with the fact that homegirls can have adult sleepovers where they’re taking shots and snapping each other’s thongs while guys can even see movies together unless they star Paul Walker? Are you ok with the fact that “woman with a bunch of useless and stupid shit in her house” = “normal” while “man with a bunch of useless and stupid shit in his house” = “Todd Palin”?

The carpet is yours.

—The Champ

If you haven’t purchased the paperback or the $9.99 Kindle version of “Your Degrees Wont Keep You Warm at Night: The Very Smart Brothas Guide to Dating, Mating, andFighting Crime” yet, what the hell is stopping you? (No, seriously. Tell us and we’ll send Liz’s boobs to fix it)

  • sheeeeit

    drinking fruity drinks. a man should never ask for a drink that’s not dark or clear. “Yeah, bruh, can i get a uh, Sex on the Beach??” stop.

    • StillSuga

      I second that, and raise you anything that ends in “tini”

      • coldsweat3

        @still Suga re: I second that, and raise you anything that ends in “tini”

        I would like to say that a regular Martini is strong as hell and a real man drink. Now Appletinis, Sourtinis, etc are not. However every now and then we sometimes want to compliment our meal with something a nice tasting drink. Most likely I already had two man drinks before we met up.

      • Alvin

        Martinis are acceptable for men. James Bond drank them.

        • MrExcelsior

          Damn right.

        • Girl Kanyeshrug

          In the 50s and 60s lets be clear…

          • StillSuga

            LOL

            • http://twitter.com/itztrizz617 herbetteroption

              u pull as many girls as Bond did u can order what u want

        • Eps

          I was about to say the same think.

    • Medium Meech

      Why must we drink diesel and battery acid to prove our manhood?

      • http://www.blackfacechicken.com/ hajipaji

        …because it tastes delicious after a long day of punching through school busses.

        • Purplenat

          A real man protects the chillun and their transportation. While inebriated.

      • sheeeeit

        because we have to wax our netherlands and push out babies. *cracks open a duracel for you* Lol.

        • Medium Meech

          Ah, the old misery loves company gambit. Well I’ve shot 151 and everclear in outright pissing contests with my boys so I guess its the same thing, it just seems wrong to drink something as disgusting as a martini for appearances sake. Doing to impress a girl is too close to pandering for my liking.

          • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

            Hey, Meech, want a shot of 151? The first two feel like swallowing thumb tacks, but after that, it’s all good. I’m tending bar tonight.

            • Medium Meech

              I’m good. I think mainlining this heroin through my main ball vein will be proof enough of my manhood.

            • http://lizburr.com Liz

              I’ve only done a full shot of 151 once and that was when I was with P at Homecoming once. Way too drunk to realize how bad it would be. Glad I survived.

              • http://theothersideofphlyy.blogspot.com PhlyyGirl

                Word to everything I used to keep a bottle of 151 in my “liquor cabinet” aka my bottom dresser drawer from freshman all the way up until junior year of undergrad.
                And the bottle got replenished twice a week.
                It’s a wonder that it only took me five years to get out with that degree and that I’m not on dialysis right now.

              • weethomas

                151 comes in shots? I thought you just got glasses of it. . . Hmm

                • http://lizburr.com Liz

                  we had a bottle. P was carrying it around. then he divided up shots into everyone’s red cups. needed enough to go around.

                  • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

                    *Looks at the 12:15 Liz’s avi*

                    *Looks at the 9:26 Liz’s avi*

                    Ummm… Did I miss something, or are there two different Liz’s?

                    • http://lizburr.com Liz

                      When I am logged into VSB, the b & w photo shows up. When I am not logged in (too lazy/don’t know my password) the other avatar shows up. It’s because I have differing email addresses in use. Everywhere else on the web, the color avi displays. i am also too lazy to log into gravatar and remove the b&W one because im trying to eradicate it from use.

                      aside from that, i tend to look like different people from one pic to another.

                  • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                    but those were good times right?!? 151 FTW!!!! the official drink of me and my boys at homecoming.

            • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

              Word… you offer Meech and don’t even think of me hunh? Didn’t we discuss this already? I guess I gotta ask then….

              Bartenda I need a round over here please and thanks!

              • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

                LOL. Sorry Phi, I’m not mixing anything I can’t drink according to double standards. So it’s either a shot or liquor and a mixer. What’ll you have?

                • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

                  I’ll take all three. I’m still celebrating my b-day so its nothing but libations and power naps from here on

                • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                  Sobieski for me, bruh. Neat.

                  O.

                • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

                  Happy Birthday Body Shots for Phidelity! O, your drink’ll be ready in a min.

                  • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

                    Aaaooooowww! SHOTS! SHOTS! SHOTS!!! But O might need to go down to the other bartenda…I need your full attention ;-)

                    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                      Ahh, so it’s your birthday, huh?

                      Barkeep, another shot of Sobieski, the lady’s buying…

                      O.

                    • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

                      Naw my bday was on Tuesday…and although I do buy drinks for guys (occasionally) that’s so not happening today boo. So I’ma need for you to dig deep and pull out some cash…

                      Give me dollas! Give me dollas! $20s over here $50s over there!!

                    • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                      Easy, now; I charge extra for that.

                      O.

              • Breazy Taylor

                What if the drink has Tequila in it, like a Tequila Sunrise. What’s manlier than Tequila?

            • CaribbeanQueen

              Man, 151 ain’t even all that bad..
              freshman year people had me scared to take shots of it.. and when I did, I was like -___- really? Henny actually tastes worse to me.. but i’ve been told i have weird taste buds.. or maybe its cuz i grew up on Wray and Nephew’s Overproof White Rum

              • Medium Meech

                Actually, Corona Light tastes worse to me, but I’m talking about pure burn factor. Maybe your tongue is pickled from drinking on that Wray-Wray growing up.

              • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

                W&N and Devils Spring both taste like death in a bottle. It took me a good lil minute to get used to it and find ways to mix it that actually tasted good. But Henny…*le sigh* henny tastes great to me. Its like my bestest liquor friend..always there for me when I’m down and for good times as well.

                • Yoles

                  Tangueray is the worst tasting liquor i have ever had… it taste like the reason why the gas prices are so dam? high… because they bottle it and sell it as gin

                  /rant

                  • http://jouromeo.blogspot.com Sagey Bear

                    Gin is a wonderful presence in a drink. It is the gentleman’s drink. It is my favorite spirit besides wine.
                    You ain’t got to hate just because you ain’t got a taste for it.
                    Plus, it really kind of taste like lime rinds.

                  • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

                    Co-sign on the Tangueray! Tastes like lighter fluid. If gin (which makes ya’ sin) is on the menu, I would rather do Bombay.

                    • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

                      Gin is good to put an edge on the sweet. I don’t like drinks that are too sweet. Put just a little gin in it and you have a more complex flavor.

              • resIpsa

                i LOVE me sum Wray and his Nephew! goes nicely with some lemonade. that and some Appleton on deck.

                mi seh di yardie dem ah deh yah!

                • http://www.nicklodeon.wordpress.com Nick@Nite

                  My aunt works at Wray and Nephew.. My mother doesn’t even drink it and we got the ish all stocked up…

                  Shoot, it’s Hurricane Season…

                • Yaaadgyrl

                  Bullet! Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeeeee *gun finga in di air while mixing the rum n red bull* white rum n coconut water is the best!

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                you grew up on W&N? damn…who didn’t like you in your household?

                • CaribbeanQueen

                  lol i used to steal sips..
                  my mom kept it in the house not to drink but to rub with in the winter time lmao.
                  don’t ask why..

            • http://twitter.com/kjnetic peter parker

              *someone say 151*

              *card carrying member of the Everclear VSBs that are < 2.3 *

              • http://www.todisspits.blogspot.com MicTheMessenger

                If you’re a fan of everclear bro, i insist that you use it to make Limoncello.

            • V Renee

              Back in my “I don’t give a eff and will eff my stomach up days”, we used to have a drink we named sweet misery – 151, everclear and cranberry juice. I shudder thinking about it now.

            • GirlSixx

              That’s because after the 2nd shot your esophagus and tongue is on fiyah and damn near numb so anything after that is a GO..

              #Yuck

          • Yoles

            Meech… that everclear will tear up your stomach you must be so strong something awful… whoa…

            • Medium Meech

              I guess it does work, no use fighting kitty hall. *Puts fuzzy navel on the bar and walks away slowly

              • sheeeeit

                LMAO. see how quickly that worked out for you? getting drink offers and compliments. lol. :-)

                • Medium Meech

                  I don’t really drink fruity drinks, but you making it an impressing girls thing made me have to argue against it, this being VSB and all. You made my animus and my pride oppose one another, not cool.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            a group of friends tried to peer pressure me into downing a shot of Jamison earlier this week, even chanting “chug, chug, chug.” i told them i’m impervious to peer pressure, though, and continued sipping it while watching the bulls game

            • FormerlyImperfect

              Double standard that shall remain…
              Men can’t sip shots!!

              Chug! Chug! Chug!

              • ThisIshRightHereNinja

                They can…in a rocks glass or a brandy glass. The proper tools can fix any problem.

            • kamakula

              I didn’t know it was possible to sip it. Usually after it crosses the neutral zone of being close enough to smell, there’s like a tractor beam pulling it down my throat

            • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

              you were such a simp for that, Champ.

              im soooooooo disappointed in you. you should be renamed The Chump.

              • http://twitter.com/eazylittle Eazy

                “im soooooooo disappointed in you. you should be renamed The Chump”

                LOL! wow

            • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              “i told them i’m impervious to peer pressure, though, and continued sipping it while watching the bulls game”

              This is the drinking equivalent to “He be like ‘shut the f**k up’. I be quiet. But, when he leave, I be talkin’ again.”

              • http://www.blackfacechicken.com/ hajipaji

                ….aaaaand congratulations! We’re all Very Smart Alcoholics. Viva La Booze! VSA Goldschlager Glitter!

              • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

                @ Cheekie, ^^Yes! That is my quote! *throws glitter and Leyomi drops for Cheekie*

            • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

              you sipped a shot of jameson’s? that’s gay.

        • Sher Sher

          *hi-five* not to mention, we have to gain up to 10lbs monthly and damn near bleed to death to facilitate the possibility ok a kid finding its way into our nether regions in the first damn place.

          drink the battery acid and shut it. lol

      • Alvin

        For the same reason we have to slap a bear at 13 to prove our manhood (an actual native american ritual for some tribes) survive the Agoge (the Spartan boy to man ritual) hunt male lions solo (Masai ritual).

        This is partly the reason why men of this day and age have lost themselves. Masculine culture has been sanitized, rendered unsafe, and discarded.

        • Yoles

          Preach Brother Alvin!!!!

        • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

          THIS!!!!

        • http://www.wildcougarconfessions.com Wild Cougar

          Men should create some new rituals. Hunting trips, Motorcycle rides across Texas, deep sea fishing, Feats of strength. Etc. It would be hella sexy.

          • Alvin

            Some men still perform these rituals, and pass them down. Society doesn’t embrace it anymore. A man who has traversed the frontiers of his heart is harder to control.

        • miss t-lee

          I wanna give this comment a hug.

        • ThisIshRightHereNinja

          I bet $100 this spartan man-boy situation involves butt secks. (even though I never read that in the classics)

          • Alvin

            Some things are better left unsaid.

        • http://www.facebook.com/EVANonlyKNOWS Evan McArthur Kane

          does slap-boxing count!? pencil fighting!?

          • Alvin

            Hahaha, even though I did both of those growing up, they do not measure up slapping bears and hunting lions.

            • http://www.twitter.com/makinghisstory Evan McAuthur Kane

              odd as it may sound…i’m a lil’ struck (pun unintended) that in 12 years my son has never been in a fight (outside of an actual boxing ring). silly man pride of mine notwithstanding…it builds character/confidence to feel and manage the adolescent adrenaline rush that comes from having to defend yourself. not that i’m advocating violence for the sake of violence…in fact, i think it can make boys LESS violent overall–and certainly less effeminate.

              my friends and i did all kinds of dumb/unsafe sh!t growin’ up…it’s weird to me that boys today aren’t attracted to danger as much. even livin’ in the city we found trees/fences/walls (or buildings) to climb, woods and creeks to play in, built obstacle trails to ride bikes through and bunch of other stunts and shenanigans that get filed under “senseless boyish acts.” now i see high school boys wearin’ victoria’s secret socks and pear lotion–and i can’t help but think it could be different/better…if only they’d gotten seven stitches from tryin’ to back-flip out of a swing instead of just sayin’ “wheeeeeee!”

    • Ms A

      I went out with a guy and some friends. And not only did he abruptly leave saying he would be right back, and got in his car and left. He came back and ordered a cranberry and vodka, which he sipped on. I could not take my eyes off this grown man sipping a pinkish-red drink. I said all that to say I #cosign on that.

      • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

        idk. i dont really consider cran + vodka a fruity/girly drink.

        if a guy were drinking it without a straw, id be ok with that.

        • Yoles

          me neither… that’s our go to drink at home

        • Medium Meech

          What about one of those loopy straws?

          • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

            no

        • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

          Me either. It’s red. *shrug life*

      • WeGottaDoBetter

        A cranberry vodka is fruity…that’s just stupid.

      • sheeeeit

        sooooo….why did he leave in his car??

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “I went out with a guy and some friends. And not only did he abruptly leave saying he would be right back, and got in his car and left. He came back and ordered a cranberry and vodka, which he sipped on. I could not take my eyes off this grown man sipping a pinkish-red drink. I said all that to say I #cosign on that”

        was he on his period?

        • http://stillnatural.blogspot.com N.I.A. naturally

          was he on his period?

          great question…

          Sipping a pink drink is definitely not a good look for a dude outside the comfort of his own home.

          • http://www.todisspits.blogspot.com MicTheMessenger

            Eff what ya heard. Ciroc is magically delicious.

            • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              I don’t effs with Diddles cheesecakingly, but that Ciroc is the bidness.

        • kamakula

          Cranberry and vodka is approved by media mavens such as Katt Williams, unless it’s really red, that’s cuz you didn’t order vodka buddy

        • V Renee

          was he on his period? .

          last time someone asked a guy this, they ended up getting a glass cracked over their head. of course it was in a movie, but still.

          • coldsweat3

            @V Renee and all others using the “period” joke yall do realize in that movie the guy ordered a PLAIN cranberry drink. Not a vodka cran. What else would u mix with Vodka thats not fruity? In my opinion if your drinking Vodka which has the WORST taste of all liqeurs it needs to actually be cut with a fruit flavored beverage. Dark Liquers are made to actually be enjoyed by themselves

            • Yoles

              coldsweat3

              blasphemy!!!!! vodka is smooth and delicious, easy to drink straight and doesn’t even burn… are you trying to say that rum takes better than vodka? gin takes better than vodka? no sir!!

              • WIP

                Agreed. Vodka is THE drink for drinkers. Vodka is the go-to beverage when you’re not really sure what you want to drink. It burns a little but you know you’re drinking.

                • GirlSixx

                  Yes it is!!

                  I love Vodka, Ketal One being my favorite, I can’t get down with the brown stuff too tough.

                  Did I just make myself out to be a lush?? Oh well. *Cheers*

              • CaribbeanQueen

                Exactly! the right vodka is really really smooth..
                Grey Goose with just ice.. tastes like water with a hint of alcohol

              • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

                Rum is actually smoother to me, but GOOD vodka is pretty smooth.

            • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

              Yas! Vodka is THEE worst. It gives me headaches and tastes awful. Gimmie rum all day er’day. Rum rum rum. And I cosign dark liquers are my personal fav.

              • Rogman

                Caribbean people and people of Caribbean descent give you a fist bump.

              • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

                SFG, you know I loves you girl, but y’all Yard folk only drink rum, henny and heineken, so I MUST take your opinion with a grain of salt LOL!

                • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                  LOL true

            • V Renee

              For the record, I have no problem with men dranking vodka and cranberry (light on the cran).

              Dark liquor makes me act strange for a little change . It’s a different (and potentially “dangerous”) buzz than the one I get with the white boi.

    • http://www.facebook.com/EVANonlyKNOWS Evan McArthur Kane

      I don’t even drink out of straws…much less some glow ‘n the dark rainbow connection a$$ beverage. I’m okay wit’ men bein’ judged by what he puts in his mouth…or won’t.

      • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

        LOL. I always take the straw out of the drink too. I think it’s hard to try to talk to a chick and stop to suck a drink from a straw. #kanyeshrug

        • Yoles

          just the visual alone made me LOL literally

          • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

            Girl, my visuals be on ten, because I sweah I pictured:

            Straw drank TWIsM: Yeah, I just got my black belt in Tai Kwon Do. Been working for the FBI for years and…

            *pauses to take dainty sip*

            I. DIED.

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          Nonsense. Spitting mad Game while sipping on a milkshake (through a straw) is the only way to fly.

          O.

          • resIpsa

            i see you tryna keep the AFC’s from enlightenment. you ain’t right.

        • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

          LOL!…and if the straw has a design, EPIC fail. lol

      • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

        lol i just mentioned the straw thing down thread. good job!

    • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

      my dad would also add to this “a man should never drink his drink from a straw… if he does, he’s a sissy”

      • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

        I agree with your dad.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        very smart man

      • LovelyMiss

        I went out for drinks with a friend and he ordered us margaritas. The server brings them over in the standard margarita glass and my friend asked he she could transfer his into a more “manly” glass and leave the straw behind. I thought that my eyes were going to get stuck from rolling them so hard b/c he kind of had an attitude as if the server should’ve known better. However, I understood the method to his madness.

        • kamakula

          I’ve been out in mixed crowds where we all ordered the same drinks but the server put the guy’s into different style/shaped glasses and toned down the accouterments.

          • http://www.todisspits.blogspot.com MicTheMessenger

            Any drink with sugar on the brim, umbrellas, fairies, pixie dust, sprinkles, glitter and/or magic spilling from the brim will place you in DIRECT vilation of man law.

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          its funny you mention the margarita drink transfer.

          i’m from cali and so margaritas are a regular cocktail of choice when im home and out with my parents. certain types of margaritas are served in the margarita glass–the flavored, fancy and/or frozen ones. my dad only orders the regular margaritas (mixer, tequila, shot of grand marnier) because they come in a regular glass.

          even when i order the fancy margaritas, he just laughs at me and says im a wimp for having all the extra sweet stuff added lol.

      • http://stillnatural.blogspot.com N.I.A. naturally

        co-sign. Your father is a wise, wise man.

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          i get it [wisdom] from my daddy ;-)

      • Alvin

        There are exceptions to this rule. Mojitos are easier to drink with a straw.

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          idk. i find mojitos extremely difficult to drink through the straw–the mint leaves stay blocking sippage. i dont even drink them with a straw anymore.

          • Alvin

            Good point. Mojitos can be difficult to drink either way.

            • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              I want a mojito now.

      • miss t-lee

        Your pops sounds like my Dad.

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          i would pay good money to see our dads in the same room together lol

          • miss t-lee

            Oh man, that would be AWESOME!!! :)

      • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

        My husband is so anti straw that he will take the lid off of a fast food cup to drink directly from the cup. He’s a lunatic about it.

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          my dad is the same way!!! he doesnt use straws under any circumstance, not even 7-11 slushees LOL

    • http://lefthandscribble.tumblr.com LoveB_Jones

      Well dang, besides beer my Dad pretty much drinks fruity drinks. Let me go tell him he’s gotta change this ASAP.

      • sheeeeit

        but older men can drink fruity drinks and no one cares, right? it’s like how they can cross their legs free of judgement.

        • WayUPThere

          That’s something I don’t get either. Why do men cross their legs the way that women traditionally cross their feminine legs and think that it’s cool? I was taught that there is a way for guys to do it and a way for ladies to do it, but I see ninjas doing it the feminine way all too often.

          • DG

            I understand what you mean with the leg crossing, but honestly, there’s plenty of stuff that was once okay, but it’s now considered suspect or feminine. I was watching old Soul Train highlights one night, and I couldn’t help thinking that the way that black men danced & dressed back then would get all kinds of side-eyes today. It’s just an evolution of how certain actions are interpreted…

            • WayUPThere

              Tis true. The tight clothes from Soul Train would get clowned by many in the current era, haha. Times evolve and so do our customs, attitudes, and social norms too I guess.

          • V Renee

            Why do men cross their legs the way that women traditionally cross their feminine legs .

            Actually, “they” say the way we tend to cross our legs is bad for our veins and can cause varicrose veins.

      • DQ

        Don’t sweat it LBJ. Even though my choice drink has always been a Long Island Iced Tea… I will drink:

        1) A vodka and cranberry
        2) A Jack and Coke
        3) An Amaretto Sour
        4) The fruitiest of the fruity drinks that Outback has to offer

        And I will do this because:

        1) I drink what I have a taste for
        2) I’m the one buying them
        3) I’m not trying to be UNOS looking for a liver cause I was trying to impress people I don’t know with how much raw alcohol I can drink
        4) Cause I’m a grown a$$ man

        *stirs Frozen Strawberry Kiwi Lemonade with straw and drinks unapologetically* LOL

        Can’t worry bout, what a nigga think now see. That’s Liberation and baby I want it..
        ~Outkast, Liberation

        • Nell

          ^^^ I love this guy.

        • V Renee

          I can dig this. Drank what you wanna drank. I don’t care especially since I’m not buying .

        • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

          Baby you drink Amaretto? Noooooooooo. *hands you a jack n coke* The coke makes it tastes better. Coke is masculine.

          • DQ

            Usually I’m knocking back Long Islands. But at some point in the night you gotta throttle back and drink something light. I’m too old to be getting hangovers and throwing up because I was binging.

            No, I’ll take the light drink and the side eyes. Hell Kool Aid prolly contains more alcohol than Amaretto. When I start ordering those, it means I’m done drinking for the night.

        • Justme (the guy)

          Much respect to DQ. For the Outkast quote if nothing else. That’s my jam. And yeah, a grown man drinks whatever the hell he feels like drinking. For me I tend to keep it simple. Rum and Coke or Henny and Coke. But if I feel like a rum and pineapple then so be it.

    • miss t-lee

      Yeah…don’t do it.
      Order a beer, a shot, or some scotch.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

      Dang a brotha can’t do chit. He can’t have a beverage that isn’t lighter fluid and he can’t cross his legs? (I kid) FTR, I ain’t trippin’. Brothas, put your “jungle juice” in the red Solo cups and no one will be the wiser ;)

  • DQ

    I am completely fine with “the love that dare not speak it’s name” when it comes to 2 women. I frown upon the same “love that dare not speak it’s name” when engaged in by 2 men. It is my ardent wish for this double standard to continue on in perpetuity.

    • http://wewereninjas.wordpress.com Jay

      This one belongs at the TOP of the list. I think that EVERYONE can agree with this… straight/gay/men/women. There is no such thing as a bisexual man… YOU GAY SON (not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        “There is no such thing as a bisexual man… YOU GAY SON (not that there’s anything wrong with that.)”

        do you think a straight man can have a “gay” act (ie: finger in the shithole) done to him by a woman and still be straight?

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          Champ,
          By definition the act you speak of, isn’t a gay one, because said act is being done by a Woman on a Man. “Pegging” would fall under the same rubric.

          O.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            “By definition the act you speak of, isn’t a gay one, because said act is being done by a Woman on a Man. “Pegging” would fall under the same rubric.”

            i agree, but i want to see how everyone else feels

            • Yoles

              i believe that anything done by heterosexuals is a heterosexual act

              • Starita34

                Yup.
                Gay men love head I’m sure…I don’t see straight guys starting petitions to have that put on the list of “things we don’t do because they’re gay”. Enjoy that finger in your @ss Champ, we won’t tell ;-)

                • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

                  LOL!

                • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

                  DEAD!

              • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

                Exactly.

              • http://thejahfiles.blogspot.com/ B. Brown

                Exactly. I will say this, though: if a VSS…um, throws around an eclectic mix of vegetables…that would make my day. Actually, I shouldn’t say she has to be a VSS. Discrimination is bad.

                • coldsweat3

                  @B Brown
                  *deaddddddd* “eclectic mix of vegetables”

                  As some of the other fellas stated acts done by heterosexuals are not gay unless they involve something like what Medium Meech is describing below this post with the strap on-that would be gay.

                • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                  I must be slow but what are you talking about exactly? O_O

                  • http://www.todisspits.blogspot.com MicTheMessenger

                    They’re talking about tossing salad.

                    • WIP

                      With syrup or jelly.

                    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                      Ooooh okay but I hope he’s discriminating and only doing that to women or I’m letting Keisha know.

                    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                      I see you WIP…FREAK :) Warm syrup in the booty aint bad. lol

                    • http://thejahfiles.blogspot.com/ B. Brown

                      Absolutely. Women only.

                • Jumping from the Ivory Tower

                  That’s it… i’m officially conservative and old. I lol’d for a minute at “eclectic mix of vegetables”… but it also made me gag on my breakfast to even consider…. just… ewww… yuck… patooey

                • Around the Way IGirl

                  Ha! This is a personal double standard of mine: you can do it to me, but I will not do it to a man. Maybe my husband, if he really wanted me to, and JUST got out of the shower.

                • Starita34

                  “if a VSS…um, throws around an eclectic mix of vegetables…that would make my day.”

                  LMAO! I’m coming to meet ya Elizabeth! This is the big one!!

                  Best. Interpretive. Naming. EVAHHHH!

                • rnic

                  ..”throws around an eclectic mix of vegetables…that would make my day. Actually, I shouldn’t say she has to be a VSS. Discrimination is bad.”

                  This entire sentence just made my Friday…..LMAO.

              • http://www.facebook.com/EVANonlyKNOWS Evan McArthur Kane

                “i believe that anything done by heterosexuals is a heterosexual act.”

                sage…seconded.

          • Medium Meech

            Getting rammed with a strap on may not technically be a homosexual act, but it is definitely gay.

            • WayUPThere

              Agreed.

            • http://shesoflyy.wordpress.com Muze

              LOL. i’m with you.

            • Medium Meech

              Getting off on barely legal girls that look much younger and wear school uniforms may not technically be an act pedophilia, but it is a symptom of it (or being Japanese). Having a woman ram you with a strap on is simulating an act of homosexuality much in the same way the above example is a simulation of an act of pedophilia. May not automatically make you Gay, but at the very least it reflects that you might get tired of masturbation a little quicker than the average dude if you were doing a bid. But I guess redefining acceptable heterosexual behavior is easier than not demonizing anything remotely associated with homosexuality.

              • WIP

                I don’t wholely agree with this, but like you mentioned, it’s a slippery slope. Wanting to “get rammed” isn’t h0m0 is you want to get rammed by a woman right? The thought of a man doing it turns you off. In that same sense, a man may enjoy looking at adults pose as children, not looking at actual children. The thought of that would turn him off. I think I’ll just leave this alone. I don’t want to be put on any lists…

                • Mr SoBo

                  Women are not gifted with naturally forming phalic shaped appendages. Only males of any species are. So a man wanting to and willing to be pleasured by an artificial device made to mimicks a man’s ‘natural design’ (by definition a definingly male characteristic mind you), is beyond gay. Doesnt matter if it is a woman using said prosthetic.
                  Even if the man has never engaged in a homos*xual act(defined as s*xual activity with another memberof the same s*x), desiring @nal play from anything phalic shaped is batty without question. I firmly believe the same with salad tossing. Basically, anything involving @nal play is gay in my book.

                  • WIP

                    But if the deviance is what gets on off, then I argue it is not g@y. The perverse nature of the woman having that power is the excitement, not the instrument. Maybe…

                    • Mr SoBo

                      No.

                    • Deeds

                      There are other ways to show dominance if thats what he’s after.

                    • John

                      WIP, i totally get what you are saying. It’s the deviant nature of the act that is exciting!!!
                      On that note, if my husband asked me to use my v*brator on him? he’ll get a definite o_O

                      PS. i AM a girl, i just like the name John

              • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                A strap on is gay. TRUST ME. I love my strap on but if you let me use it on you…it’s a wrap. Men’s bootyholes are tighter than my fists and if his @ss opens up to fit my big boy, I’m kicking him out my house and out my life.

                • http://www.todisspits.blogspot.com MicTheMessenger

                  WHOA…strap on?

                • miss t-lee

                  and…I’m dead!!!!! :)

                • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

                  omg!!! *cackles*

                • Around the Way Girl

                  So you use it on women, I’m assuming…? Is that fun? It seems to me like a whole lot of work for no physical pleasure, but obviously you get something out of it…

                  • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                    I will not confirm nor deny this. All I will say is that I’m saved now and accept the Lord christ Jesus as my personal savior.

                    God bless you.

                    • http://lizburr.com Liz

                      *dies*

                  • Deeds

                    Well I’ve heard that the strap on rubs against the cl!t as the women thrust, therefore providing the pleasure.

                    • Around the Way Girl

                      Aaaaaah I see. It all makes sense now.

                • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

                  SFG’s big boy strap on FTW!!!!

                  By the way… God Bless You…

                • rnic

                  I saw an ad the other day for a strap on that is supposed to be attatched on a guy’s chin so he can ___________ and _______ (a woman) simutaneously. The thought of the act was lovely but the visual in my head of the guy “strapping up for the kill” was HILARIOUS. Plus, all other things aside, a “heterosexual” man strapping a to his chin points to all things ghey for me. Curious to know what the VSBs think though….would u strap it on your chin *smirk* to please your girl?

                  • Around the Way Girl

                    Lol this visual is slaying me. Why not just supplement with a finger or two? That always gets it done.

                • Justme (the guy)

                  lmao @SmartFoxGirl- I agree though. If I’m in the mood to be “dominated” by a woman then I would want her to snatch my clothes off, tape my mouth and throw me on the bed so she can jump on it (cue the song from the Fresh Prince episode) but never in my drunkest of nights would I even consider asking or hopin that she’d pound me in the ass. Not an option….ever

                  • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                    Exactly. lol

              • mandela

                @mmeech
                “Having a woman ram you with a strap on is simulating an act of homosexuality”…NO bro..you ain’t simulating sh*t..you are gay FULL STOP!

        • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

          A finger..no. A strap on, bullet or anything that vibrates…yes!

          • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

            How about this double standard: A man’s Hershey Highway is exit only. A woman’s can be an HOV.

            So it is written… So shall it be.

            Double standard created.

            • Starita34

              HOV!?!?

              You watch too much vampire porn son! That double double stuff is strictly for the pros! SINGLE file please!

              • Medium Meech

                That’s right HOV! H to the OV. It’s almost blasphemous, but your body is a temple and sinners need refuge.

                • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

                  Meech is on point with the jokes today. Dude is dishin’ out gold.

                • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                  LMAO!!!!

                • Mr SoBo

                  Well done. I approve this hedonistic sentiment.

                • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

                  LMAO!!! Boy you are KILLIN ME!!

                • Starita34

                  “your body is a temple and sinners need refuge.”
                  Let there be singing and jubilation at my funeral…

                • http://www.facebook.com/EVANonlyKNOWS Evan McArthur Kane

                  [buys round of shots...toasts to double standard.]

            • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

              No.

            • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

              “A woman’s can be HOV”
              O_ok??????

          • kamakula

            fingers have been known to vibrate on occasion.

            • k-steez

              how do ya’ll do that? amazes me. every. time.

        • veryaveragebrotha

          “do you think a straight man can have a “gay” act (ie: finger in the shithole) done to him by a woman and still be straight?”

          I was fortunate enough to attend a college with a pretty large openly gay community and as a result had some rather interesting and eye-opening conversations that illuminated some rather interesting facts, here are a couple:

          1. The most frequently performed and loved act among gay people BY FAR is fellatio. In fact, it was historically very strongly if not exclusively tied to gay activity in multiple cultures. And apparently, it’s a commonly accepted fact in the gay and bisexual community that on average, men give FAR much better head than women…I guess this makes sense for the same reasons women on average do a better job of DATY then men do. So yeah, the gayest sexual act is without a doubt head…they started this fellatio ish…and this the mutha…efiin thanks they get!?!?!?

          2. In the gay community, there are switches, catchers and pitchers (who NEVER catch), as well as a large number who indulge in absolutely NO anal activity. Although no actual polls or studies have ever been done on this, it could very well be only the minority of gay men that have ever actually gotten anally penetrated in any way…go figure.

          all in all, it literally boggles my mind as to why people continuously insist on complicating such a simple issue. If you’re sexually attracted to women, you’re straight if you’re sexually attracted to men, you’re gay. If you’re sexually attracted to both…you’re just a freak bisexual. What you choose to do with said party (missionary, Urolagnia, getting an apple stuffed in your mouth) has nothing to do with sexuality, that’s just a discussion of how nasty you are…word to Kells

          • Yoles

            you tell ‘em

            but why bisexuals get the qualifier of freak though…

            • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

              Cause we are. ;)

          • http://www.twitter.com/Stank_0 Stank_0

            As far as pub health is concerned, there’s also Men who have sex with men because it’s based on self-identification. Self-ID throws another rubric in the conversation.

            My ex and I went back and forth on this for a while. So even if you have sex with the same sex but if you consider yourself straight, then you’re straight.

            • Be On It

              Um no. This is not like a gender-queer person who identifies with male but occasionally dresses as a woman. If you consider yourself straight, but have sex with the same sex (regularly or repeatedly) then you are not straight. Maybe bi or pansexual, but not straight.

              • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

                Exactly. Sexuality is defined by mind reaction, body reaction AND action. If you sleep with a man, that is a homosexual act. Maybe you might be straight but that is highly unlikely. It’s all about probability. Let’s be real here. lol

          • coldsweat3

            @veryaveragebrotha

            Yah this dude is right on the standard gay acts. Oral sex was considered “Sodomy” as well as Anal and early statutes were written that no one could perform these acts meaning men or women.

            • WayUPThere

              I might be getting crass here, but on some real people, women have been giving fellatio for ages….ages. Let’s be real about this.

              This site gives more detail into the history of said act: http://dir.salon.com/story/sex/feature/2000/05/22/oral_history/index1.html

              Excerpts:
              “But the first clear real traces of fellatio are from ancient Egypt…where we find the famous myth of Osiris and Iris: Osiris was killed by his brother and cut into pieces. His sister Iris put the pieces together but, by chance, the penis was missing. An artificial penis was made out of clay, and Iris ‘blew’ life back into Osiris by sucking it. There are explicit images of this myth.

              As an aside, Egyptian women were particularly well known for their sexual prowess. Egyptian women are also purported to be the first women to use makeup.

              What about other ancient cultures like China, or India, where you have the Kama Sutra?

              Indeed, these are two other ancient cultures that ritualized fellatio. Ancient China was similar to India insofar as there were practically no sexual censures or taboos whatsoever. But it was in India where we find the Kama Sutra…An entire chapter in the Kama Sutra is devoted to an act called ‘auparishtaka,’ otherwise known as ‘oral congress.’ Oral congress involved eight highly descriptive and semicodified ways of performing fellatio.”

        • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

          No, he’d be getting the side eye from me

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

        I don’t.

        • DQ

          That’s fine, cause this is the double standard that I am ok with continuing. Everybody’s got their own.

      • coldsweat3

        I dont think that double-standard should exist because its the exact same act. Furthermore, we(the entire black community) need to make an effort to realize that until we take affirmative efforts to end the double-standard we wont have so many of our people living a double-life.

        • DQ

          *I dont think that double-standard should exist because its the exact same act.*

          That’s what makes it a double standard and appropriate for this conversation.

          *Furthermore, we(the entire black community) need to make an effort to realize that until we take affirmative efforts to end the double-standard we wont have so many of our people living a double-life.*

          I realize you are just expressing your opinion, but I’m going to disagree with it for 3 reasons.

          1. You certainly have the right to decide for yourself what is and isn’t an acceptable double standard, you don’t however, have the right to assert what is an acceptable double standard for everyone else. This is true because…

          2. …as the comments through out this thread demonstrate, there is no moral absolute in play here. You can use whatever context of framework you choose to embrace or reject a double standard.

          3. The choice to live a double life is just that; a choice. People may not have a choice about what they’re attracted to but they CERTAINLY have a choice about how they behave in response to it. And I reject any claim that I have partial responsibility in causing it, or mitigating it, because of my personal views.

  • DQ

    I think it’s okay for a woman to parade around the house butter ball nekkid.

    I will tolerate no such activity from a grown a$$ man.

    I’m DQ, and I endorse this double standard.

    • Yoles

      so DQ in your own home you don’t walk around in the nude?!?!?!?

      • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

        that’s just tragic…I done spent all this money on binoculars, spy gear and fatigues for no damn reason *SMH*

        • DQ

          Yeah you went about that all wrong. Me? I’m all about installing web cams in people’s homes. BTW, you left the water running in the bathroom, and that power strip in your bed room is dangerously overloaded, might want to unplug a few items from there so it doesn’t overheat. Anyway see you later on tonight. :)

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          lmao goon you are a mess!!

      • Starita34

        Right!?! That’s one of the best things about getting home! Clothes and bra fly off like a G6!

        • Time Doesn’t Matter Sometimes

          ^^ Every Day. I especially hate underwear.

        • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

          Because I really don’t feel like scrolling down to see if anyone else posted this (DAMN YOU, LAZINESS!), I’ma just say that going “Freebird” is much more acceptable to women. Men should not be doing this, not just because it doesn’t look (or sound) right, but also because of “safety purposes”.

      • DQ

        To and from the shower, yeah I’m nude then. Gettin it in, in the bedroom, yeah I’m nude then. Otherwise? Negative – y’all look good walking around naked, you should do it.

        For dudes? Negative. It’s like the first step to becoming a Serial Killer.

        • Caballeroso

          Sounds like I need to adopt “Wayne” as my middle name.

          (fyi, Wayne is a common middle name amongst serial killers.)

          • miss t-lee

            “(fyi, Wayne is a common middle name amongst serial killers.)”

            Do you read “News of the Weird”?
            I love their criminal section, where everyone’s middle name is Wayne.

        • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

          “To and from the shower, yeah I’m nude then. Gettin it in, in the bedroom, yeah I’m nude then. Otherwise? Negative – y’all look good walking around naked, you should do it.

          For dudes? Negative. It’s like the first step to becoming a Serial Killer.”

          Co-sign. I used to do that when I was younger, but now I at least have on sweatpants or B-Ball shorts (that have long lost their strings). Y’all look better doing it, especially while cooking breakfast…

          • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

            Bacon grease burn on the tiddays hurt like hell. I need at least a wife beater when cooking breffus.

    • http://jouromeo.blogspot.com Sagey Bear

      I don’t know about y’all…and thats cool, none of y’all know me here…I’m anonymous(except maybe Liz, because she mod-n-all) but the freedom of being able to walk around my place jumping on the furniture birthday suit clean than a mutha, actin like the lion king to my favorite playlists and porns is a part of the freedom, is a small joy that comes from having ya very own spot in the world. Haters gon’ hate but I’mma continue to be the King of my effin Jungle. That ain’t no double standard I recognize.(dbl neg).

      • Yoles

        that’s right sagey… get naked

      • Caballeroso

        Co-sign! I couldn’t wait to get my own house so for this very reason (oh, and also to watch pr0n without headphones).

        • http://jouromeo.blogspot.com Sagey Bear

          Finally, something I get to agree with you on. Its been a long time coming…lol

    • http://panamaenrique.wordpress.com Malik

      I don’t know, I feel weird if Ricky isn’t hanging out at some point in the day. TMI? Probably.

      • Yoles

        gotta let ricky hang sometimes mailk…. i approve

      • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

        RIICKAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY!!! I’m sorry… I just felt like yelling.

        • Starita34

          LMAO @ the thought of Malik dismounting after a session and looking at his girl and yelling “YOU KILLED RICKAAAAAY!”

          ROTFL

          • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

            I’m on the floor over here!!!!

    • http://www.todisspits.blogspot.com MicTheMessenger

      Bull schnigitty.

      If i pay the bills, i’m excercising free reign.

      In fact, when i get married, both me AND my wife will have b-day suit parades across our house.

      • DQ

        I mean to each his own, but to me… nudity should have a purpose. And at least there’s a physical reason for a woman to want to get out of her clothes. Outside of her just looking good nekkid, generally their clothes are tighter than ours and they have been restrained ALL day. It really is a release for them to get out of their clothes…

        The two legitimate reasons I can think of a for a dude to be naked in a house is

        a) going to the shower
        b) activities related to getting it in

        What else can a dude do, that a dude should do, that requires no clothes? Nothing except perhaps the purification ritual the serial killer engages in before he takes out his next victim. :( I think of all the things I like to do around the house, watch t.v., read and write blog entries, video games, music production… absolutely NONE of them seem right if I’m doing them naked.

    • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

      I love the aesthetic of the male form. I love to look at naked peens. So take your clothes off and parade around, fellas. It’s okay… really it is.

      • Sagey Bear

        And we love that you love our bodies. We love yours as well (of course, I can only speak for me.).;-)

      • Yoles

        YES!!!!!!!!!

      • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

        I love looking at my mans’ body while he walks around butt ass nekkid. The only problem now is when our daughter gets home from school and both of us have to cover up. but other than that, it’s much easier to just go ahead and get it in on the spot

  • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

    *Pops popcorn and waits for the Ho/Slut Double Standard to come out to play*

    • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

      *sits next to Twism and takes some popcorn*

      • Brickhouse817

        *Joins you both on the couch with some concession stand sour patch kids*

      • Medium Meech

        *Sits next to Tes and nuzzles Fresca and bowl of homemade guacamole between between her funbags since the coffee table is covered in Maxims and blaxploitation movies.

        • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

          No need to nuzzle, just set the bad boy up there. Won’t fall unless you jiggle me. *opens the tortilla chips*

          • DQ

            *Observes the G Code and sees nothing suspect at all about this exchange and will fervently denied that it even happened when questioned*

            • Medium Meech

              Only reason this is happening is out of necessity. Did I bring the Maxims? No HOV did that, but hopefully Tes wont have to go through that. (and this is my second comment referencing an earlier Twism comment).

              • http://www.twism.com/drrdb TWIsM81

                LMAO @Meech. That is some funny -ish.

      • Andi

        *pours a bag of Raisenets in her popcorn and shakes*

        *slaps palm to face cuz she forgot her Coke*

        • Yoles

          *brings a case of cold coke and bag of doritos and sits next to andi*

          • Andi

            Thanks Yoles!

            *sips her Coke*

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            get a room. in a suite inside of a giant, gay-ass hot air balloon

            • http://shesoflyy.wordpress.com Muze

              bwaahahahahaa! ah. i needed this laughter tonight/day.

            • Aisha

              Lmao!!

        • Medium Meech

          I have plenty of Mr. Pibb if you need a swig…

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

            (passes on the Pibb and pops the top on a can of Tahitian Fruit Punch)

            Who wants some Vitner’s BBQ skins? I got the big bag.

            • Brickhouse817

              Aww snap! Pass that down here!

              *pulls a wine cooler out of my purse*

            • Be On It

              This is some Detroit ish if there ever was.

              • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

                Nope. Chi-Town baby.

            • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

              *quietly enters with Red Vines, some Whoppers, a pillow and a throw*

      • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

        *Sits on the recliner with a large pan of pizza and some Gatorade*

    • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

      *pours another Rum and Coke and looks around*

      Damn it’s gettin’ crowded. I don’t want y’all talkin’ during the show. I know how #TheBlacks can be.

      • http://wewereninjas.wordpress.com Jay

        Wait for it…

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

        (answers phone after letting it ring for a full minute)

        HELLO? HELLO?! OH HEY!…NAW GIRL, I JUST SAT DOWN WAITING ON THIS SH*T TO START… I KNOW RIGHT. HAHAHAHA…HOLD ON GIRL…WHAT? WHO THE F*CK YOU TELLING TO HUSH?!…THEY AIN’T EVEN DOING NOTHING YET N*GGA…YEAH…WELL…I’LL HANG UP WHEN I’M DONE…WHO GONE MAKE ME? YOU?! HAHAHAHAHA…HOLD ON GOTDAMMIT…DON’T BE PUTTING YO GREASY HANDS ON ME…I’M TRNA WATCH THIS SH*T TOO MAN…GIRL IM GON HAVE TO CALL CALL YOU BACK, THESE N*GGAS TRIPPING UP IN HERE…

        • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

          *Lines Anti-Cool’s Margarita glass with crushed glass instead of salt*

          Anyone else wanna talk? Hmmmm?

        • WayUPThere

          lmao Anti-Cool. I like how you did that.

          I think I was gone after “don’t be putting yo greasy hands on me” lololol

          • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

            (curtsies)

            I try. At times I even succeed. ;)

        • naturalista88

          Bwahahaha!!

    • http://twitter.com/kjnetic peter parker

      *sits down after a long day of punching buses and bowing before black women*

      * looks around for Devil’s Spring and Sprite cuz SOMEONE took all the Jack and Coke.*

      Skoot over, y’all.

    • Around the Way Girl

      Haaaaaaa well…considering the fact that most women suck at having casual, non-emotional sex, plus the fact that STIs/STDs affect women more often and more seriously, plus the fact that no one wants the love below all loose and whatnot, I get the double standard that it’s not okay for women to be slores while men get a pass. Not that I necessarily give men a pass or have super strict rules about what makes another woman a slore (I purposely have a very low number myself, but I don’t judge…often).

      • DQ

        Good one. I’m not sure why I didn’t think of this one myself.

    • http://jouromeo.blogspot.com Sagey Bear

      Its funny how this turned into an old-school, turn based, RPG type responses(i.e. D&D).

      Group turns slowly as Sage throws in the stankin’ haterade grenade for not being invited. Walks away with Obama strut

      • Mr. Gundam

        *Lean against wall, silently nodding*

        SB right tho…

    • WIP

      I think we’ve had that discussion, at length.

      • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        And I still maintain that calling a dude a “ho” is way more fun than calling him a “male ho.”

  • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

    “Btw, “Miss Sweet n Low” is the name that I think all single women should give their vaginas. When married? “The Harvest Festival.””

    Would a young lady with a lot of vagina love to give name hers “Equal?”

    • http://www.twitter.com/drrdb TWIsM

      I don’t know but if I find Splenda….. ooooooooh.

    • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

      +1 for reading my mind Ms. Cheekie :)

    • NinaFontaine

      I was thinking “Splenda”

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “Would a young lady with a lot of vagina love to give name hers “Equal?”

      nah. “ranch dressing”

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

        Um…Ew.

      • http://mrcoachwilson@blogspot.com Mr Coach

        Now that’s funny!

      • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        Turribo!!!

      • http://twitter.com/#!/NewYork2VA NY2VA

        You so nasty!

  • http://tdlove.wordpress.com Tonya

    “homegirls can have adult sleepovers where they’re taking shots and snapping each other’s thongs”

    ooh..my homegirls are coming over tomorrow..and you just gave us something to do! We were going to do the pillow-fight in our skimpy pjs and play with each other’s hair..but the thongs and drinking sounds better. ;)

    • Andi

      Don’t forget to paint each other’s nails and then play spin the bottle.

      • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

        After the water gun fight of course. Can’t play spin the bottle without being a little wet.

        • theeclectic

          …add the pillow feather with shoddy made goose down pillows

          • Yoles

            and can’t forget practicing kissing each other to be an expert when it’s time to kiss the boys

        • http://jouromeo.blogspot.com Sagey Bear

          What kind of wet you talkin’ bout youngin’?

          • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

            ;)

    • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

      ooh..my homegirls are coming over tomorrow..

      awwww im jealous!!! me and my girls keep saying we’re going to have another sleepover but we’re lames and cant seem to get it together.

      i’ll have to remember to add “snapping each other’s thongs” to the long list of outta order shenanigans we get into *makes note*

      • http://wewereninjas.wordpress.com Jay

        Gas is too damn high right now for yall to be POURING it on the flames of our VSS fantasies.

        • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

          LOL

    • Medium Meech

      Can’t have a stereotypical sleepover without a frat boy O_Oing through the window and crashing the party in the middle of the tickle fight.

      • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

        Now is that before or after we compare cup sizes?

        • http://tdlove.wordpress.com Tonya

          Before..but right after we practice kissing.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            “Before..but right after we practice kissing.”

            kissing where?

            • Medium Meech

              More specifically, kissing what?

              • Yoles

                lips of course

                • http://twitter.com/Phidelity15 Phidelity15

                  too easy….lol

                • http://www.testorshia.blogspot.com Tes

                  I’m thinking they’re asking which set, which I suppose would depend on the friendship and level of alcohol consumed…

                  • Yoles

                    i left it ambiguous because men like to fantasize

                • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

                  I was gonna say ass but that would have been rude.

                  • http://jouromeo.blogspot.com Sagey Bear

                    For some reason, I enjoyed that out of you AC.

                    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

                      ;)

                • DQ

                  This whole conversation wins

  • http://lizburr.com Liz

    I’m cool with men paying for all the dates and women not paying for any of them.

    • DG

      (Notices Liz’s new avi——————————————-^^^^^^^^…. gains new respect for Meech’s e-booship)

      Well d@mn….

      (Stands up and starts a slow clap, John Hughes style)

      Clap…

      Clap…

      Clap…

      • CaribbeanQueen

        yes SO pretty!

      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

        I know right…Looking all sweet and innocent and stuff…But we know better, don’t we? :wink:

      • Yoles

        yes that is a lovely pic Liz… i-the staunch advocate for happy faced avi’s- approve

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        LOL!!!!

        If only Meech appreciated alla dis!!!

      • http://wewereninjas.wordpress.com Jay

        Bigger version of it on her blog…

    • http://pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

      Make it rain on that dinner bill!

      • WIP

        LOL!!

    • Andi

      I love this avi Liz! It’s purty.

      Get’cho man guhrl!

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        Oh right. I forgot I am not logged in = diff avatar. thanks :)

    • Yoles

      i agree w/the paying of dates as well as asking for dates double standard

    • Medium Meech

      This was supposed to be our PRIVATE TIME avatar…

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        LOL. You been hiding tho…

      • Medium Meech

        You was s’posed to wait…

        • http://lizburr.com Liz

          I am, I am!!!

          • Medium Meech

            You waiting, but your avi ain’t.

            • http://lizburr.com Liz

              Oh, so I’m a harlot now???

              • Medium Meech

                Don’t try to run the misdirection on me. You’re the one posting pinup shots on the internet after midnight.

              • http://lizburr.com Liz

                LOL.

                It was to lure you back home, e-baby, I missed you!

                • Medium Meech

                  I’m going to be in San Fransisco (some kind of festival this Sunday) and L.A. next week so hold it down for me.

                  • http://lizburr.com Liz

                    sigh. okay.

    • http://thatswhatgemsaid.wordpress.com Gem Jones

      same here.

      (mostly because im a broke grad student and it really is a stretch for me to pay!)

    • http://iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

      Liz has the “f*ck this celibacy sh*t” avi. I like!

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        lollll.

    • ScalabrineWithTheJ!

      Only suckers do this.

    • Around the Way Girl

      Lol I’m cool with this one too. Gorgeous avatar, Liz!

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        thx :)

    • FormerlyImperfect

      I agree. But only if the lady tips…

      I don’t like the idea of this take and take relationship.

      …and let’s keep the double standard that only men should propose…

      • Sagey Bear

        agreed. A woman might get dismissed if she proposed to me…men don’t like being called pretty and I get called pretty….with that said, My ego can’t take being proposed to. I’m ‘talmout gettin’ a long knife scar cross’de’face just so nobody else will call me pretty or cute. I’m a man dambit. I hang. Black man. (pause)

    • miss t-lee

      Amen.

    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

      D@aaaaaaamn Liz! That avi is HOT. *yes homo* lol

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        Haaa. I am a chameleon when my hair is straight. thanks sfg :)

    • http://twitter.com/#!/legitimate_soul legitimate_soul

      It is a very pretty pic, Liz. :)

    • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

      I’m like this, if you ask me out on a date, then I expect for you to foot the bill. sorry fellas, I’m not paying unless we been in a relationship for a while and are on that level

  • StillSuga

    “The Starbucks situation aside, can you think of any other double standards that need to stay exactly how they are?”

    Men paying for dates as a rule, and women paying for dates as a “treat” :)

    • Yoles

      good answer

    • Andi

      “en paying for dates as a rule, and women paying for dates as a “treat””

      That’s a great way to put it.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      this is fine, as long as you’re ok with the fact that us paying for dates means that we pick venues too. the only Thai you’re gonna see on a date with me is one of the types of sauces on the wings at Hooters

      • Yoles

        guys don’t like Thai food?!?!?!!?

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          No. We do not.

          O.

          • hehe

            wow my man doesn’t like thai food either. I love thai food!! this is a problem -_-

          • Deeds

            Well Thai men must like it.

            • LMNOP

              lol

            • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              LOL, this was funnier than it should’ve been.

        • http://twitter.com/kjnetic peter parker

          “guys don’t like Thai food?!?!?!!?”

          we do, but that’s a girlfriend/wife date. not a “first date” date.

          *pulls out Groupon Coupons*

          *watches the scatter-ation*

          • WIP

            Is it wrong that I would be impressed by a man that used coupons?

        • DQ

          To reiterate on the question do guys like Thai:

          No.

          • http://tdlove.wordpress.com Tonya

            me and the homegirls will be having Thai tonight..maybe a Thai food fight..yellow curry landing in inappropriate places..

            • http://twitter.com/TheHumanSp1d3r The Human Spider

              *spits out OJ*

              WWWOOOOOOWWWWWW…

              *wipes mouth*

            • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

              Bet they’ll eat it then. It’s all in the presentation, my foodies.

        • kamakula

          Thai food is among my faves. I’m thinking it will be one of my first date tests.

          • coldsweat3

            LOL im sorry but yall ninjas are missing out on Thai food. I love Thai curry, and Indian food. As far as her only paying for dates occasionally she can find herself only being taken on dates occasionally.

            • Cali

              **could NOT date a man who didn’t like Thai food, its that important to me**

      • miss t-lee

        Champie, Keepin’ it real…LOL

      • http://www.twitter.com/makinghisstory Evan McAuthur Kane

        i’m all for pickin’ the venue…and i’m all for thai. i am also for hooters (and wings at hooters)…and i’m sensitive a swaying of a woman’s tastes, cravings, preferences and dietary restrictions where dating is concerned. but all diplomacy aside…there are few things sexier to me than a woman’s epicurean indulgences. bon(e) appetit!

  • Hot Buttered Rum

    it’s ok for a woman to have “girl crushes.” a guy can’t go around saying “if I wasn’t straight…etc.” and, I’m ok with that.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      you mean i probably shouldn’t rock my “i’m not gay, but I’d definitely like to go fly fishing with carlos boozer” t-shirt anymore?

      • DG

        LMAO…

        Technically speaking, you’d be fishing with Josh Smith or KG right now…

      • http://www.pinchmycheekie.wordpress.com Cheekie

        I’ve been swooning over the adorability that is Rose for so long, I straight out MISSED on Boozer. I noticed him a lot more yesterday. That nicca is good lookin’. Maybe it’s because he was wilin’ last night? SMH. I sound like a Basketball Wife in training… lemme quit while I’m behind…

        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5FR1LGsT7E TheAnti-Cool

          … lemme quit while I’m behind…

          That’s NOT what he said.

        • MsEmBee

          Yeah, Boozer was on his grown man ish last night!!! Rawr!!

    • WIP

      Agreed.

    • http://twitter.com/SmartFoxGirl SmartFoxGirl

      Good one! and nice username :)

      • Hot Buttered Rum

        thanks…I think I’m going to officially come out of my lurker status :)

    • http://www.greenafrodiva.com Green Afro Diva

      no, ya’ll just throw in the ‘no homo’ quote and pretend that you’re not attracted to him

  • h_Bomb

    i don’t mind that, though i’m expected to expend a lot of effort and take a long time to get ready before going out, i would question a man who cared as much about his appearance. because in the end, it’s about me :)

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      “because in the end, it’s about me”

      sounds like this one isn’t done quite yet, and needs to go back in the oven

      • h_Bomb

        what’s that sposed to mean?

        • DQ

          You are not yet ready to snatch the pebble from Sinsei’s hand Grasshopper