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Five Quick Thoughts On Bill Maher Going Peak Bill Maher (And A Quick Aside On White People And Nigga/Nigger)

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This is haircut and hoop day for me, so this is going to be quick.

1. I was actually watching the show when it happened. I wasn’t watchingwatching — which’ll be clearer in #2 — but the TV was on, and it was on Real Time with Bill Maher.

2. I didn’t actually hear him say it. (Neither did the Wife Person.) Maybe I was blowing my nose or googling bacon milkshakes or something, but I missed it and didn’t find out about it until after the show when I saw his name was trending. At first, the Wife Person and I were incredulous. Not that we didn’t believe he’d say that, but just that we’d both missed it live. But then we saw the clip, and it was confirmed. That nigga did say house nigga. (And yes, I just called Bill Maher a nigga. So far this morning, I’ve also called the following a nigga: The fly buzzing around my spare bedroom. A five dollar bill I forgot was still in a pair of sweatpants and discovered this morning. The sausage egg and cheese McMuffin I’m going to buy with that $5 when I’m done writing this. Melania Trump’s side peen.)

3. Nigga and nigger are two separate words with two separate meanings and connotations, and White people — regardless of how “down” or woke” they want to be — aint allowed to say either. Sorry, y’all. (And by “Sorry, y’all” I mean “LOLOLOL not fucking sorry at all get the fuck out of here and go kick some gluten-free rocks.”)

 4. Maher’s House Nigga actually sounded closer to “nigger” than “nigga.” He doesn’t quite say it with the hard R, but it’s close enough. Not that it matters, because they can’t say either. But as a veteran nigga user, I’m well-versed in nigga/nigger sounds — I have a nigga PhD, nigga — and Maher failed twice by A) saying it and B) not even saying it right.
 
5. It’s apropos that he’d catch this heat — and possibly lose his show — for saying this word, as it provides a convenient intersection for two similar issues: White people vexed that they’re not allowed to say this word, and privileged White people — privileged White men, specifically — lamenting on how political correctness and “outrage culture” has made us too sensitive. Both issues are issues because of (some) White people’s unfamiliarity with the concept of “No.” Where they’re so used to being able to do and say what they want — believing they possess some sort of manifest destined dominion over literally everything — that saying “Yeah, you can’t do this one thing” contradicts their personhood and their Whiteness. “What do you mean I can’t do this one thing? I’m White! I can do everything! I thought the life-long “Do Everything” pass came with the membership package! I need to see a manager!
Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • King Beauregard

    “White people’s unfamiliarity with the concept of “No.””

    May I fine-tune this a bit? I think the mentality is often closer to, “I mean no harm or offense, therefore what I’m doing is fine.”

    Which of course completely misses the realities of 1) it’s possible to cause harm/offense without intending to, and 2) respect involves, among other things, refraining from certain actions simply because other peoples’ opinions and wishes matter.

    • King Beauregard

      Not directly related, but it’s in the same ballpark: Maher doesn’t think he has an axe to grind against Muslims, but remember the 14-year-old Muslim kid who disassembled a clock? Maher was out there, longer than most people, arguing that the authorities were right to give this kid needless sht just because.

  • Marceline

    Between Kathy Griffin and Maher, white progressivism seems to be working overtime to step on its own d!ck this week.

    • King Beauregard

      Progressives peeve me maximally. Even the term “progressive” caught on because Rush Limbaugh was successful at demonizing the term “liberal”. When you change your name because the mean radio man said nasty things, you’re probably not going to be the ones to usher in a new golden age of mankind.

      • Yahmo Bethere

        BOOM.

      • La Bandita

        I really hate agreeing with you, lol.

        • King Beauregard

          Yeah, I really am the worst.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      Both of them have always been on the wrong side of Tim Wise.

    • Cheech

      Its d!ck isn’t quite long enough to step on. It just keeps kinda kicking it with each step, and tripping.

  • Mary Burrell

    It’s ingrained in their psyche I have a good friend who is white one very hot Summer day we were going to brunch and her a/c in her car was out, she let it slip out “I’m sweating like a ni**er.” I was stunned and it stung I was quiet and she immediately started to cry and begged for me to forgive her. I just think this is in their psyches.

    • L8Comer

      Sheesh. How did u end up handling that? That sucks, Mary. I’m sorry.

      • Mary Burrell

        She was raised in a racist family i try to give people the benefit of the doubt she told me about her upbringing in Mississippi and how her parents used racial slurs for everyone that is not white. We aren’t as close as we used to be she was there for me when my mother was sick and getting ready to pass away. She likes to go to church with me so she’s trying to overcome her racism.

        • L8Comer

          That makes sense, i figured she must have had some family or friends exposing her to that for it to just come out her mouth in such a casual way. You’re strong and a good friend for sticking by her.

          • Mary Burrell

            The few white friends i have i try to enlightenen them about racism and social injustices in the world.

            • L8Comer

              goodness. that is a heavy load to carry. I will not take that on. thankful for people like you who are strong and patient enough to do that.

              • At all!!! They ain’t wasting my Caucasian time acting like they don’t know better.

            • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

              You have a strong spirit Sister.

              • Mary Burrell

                No i don’t you of all folks know how i cut up.

                • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

                  LOL. True dat. Enjoy your Weekend Sister Mary Burrell.

            • Kat

              I don’t teach anymore. Folks grown. Read. Watch. Change. If you really want to.

              • Brother Mouzone

                Well! *old Black church lady voice*

              • pls

                Best teacher is an azz whoopin. I say let them learn when they’re good and ready…to catch these hands

                • Kat

                  Exactly…once you over 28 I just ain’t no mo.

            • that’s not your job, sis. ?

            • Brother Mouzone

              You’re a bigger person than me.

        • Kat

          I’m from MS. Born and raised. I’m wary of 2520’s from there. Almost all have a racist base. The black folks aren’t any better but you can’t blame them. We are only 49 years from MLK’s murder.

          • MSNY

            When I was a kid in MS, our class superlatives were segregated by race…in the 90s.

            • Kat

              I never spoke to nary a guidance counselor in school, bet all the white folks did though.

            • pls

              Dayum I heard of the separate proms, but superlatives? Can’t chance all the winners being black, huh?

          • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

            Everybody know about Mississippi….

          • Mochasister

            My paternal grandparents were from Iuka, MS. I know they saw some thangs.

        • DinIndy

          Does she pray to white jesus? Religion and money are the reasons slavery lasted so long and continues with pay prisons. Break all the chains put on you.

        • lkeke35

          I’m not gonna chastise you. She’s working on it and I get that emotional support thing. I got a friend like that too. She has never said the “word”, but I have doubts about her. She’s not woke. She’s not ride or die. But she reads a lot, does the work, is trying, and in all other regards is a good friend.

        • Mochasister

          I would probably pray for her but from a distance. I get that she was raised in a racist family but she’s grown now. She’s had an opportunity to change her thinking and the way she speaks about Black people. Her way of overcoming racism might be attending church with a Black person and not necessarily doing any internal reflection or change. She seems like the type that would say, “I’m not racist because I have Black friends. I even go to church with my Black friend.”

    • cyanic

      Sounds like her circle of white friends and family use it for it to blurt out of her mouth.

      • L8Comer

        and she didn’t just utter the word. it was attached to a stereotype I’ve actually never heard before. so.. idk, its not just a slip of the tongue, it’s some idea she has in her head too.

        • cyanic

          Never heard sweating like a niqqa before.

          • L8Comer

            me neither.

          • Not ever.

          • Kwazi Style

            correction… like a “niqqer”, lil uzi and lil yachty say niqqa to its cool because, you know… rap culture *sarcasm*

          • pls

            only reasoning I see is that it was hot af while slaves worked, especially if she’s from MS.

        • DomiMami

          Right? Sweaty naygers? That’s new!
          I normally say I’m sweating like a Hebrew slave, which is factual!

          • L8Comer

            that’s pretty much just as disgusting

            • DomiMami

              Never said it was right, just factual. Also, I can own my shortcomings; I too am growing and I likely won’t be using that phrase again.

          • Brother Mouzone

            You know we the Hebrews, right? Not “hotep” speak, but actual factual history.

            • DomiMami

              Yes, I am discovering much on my journey towards wokeness.

        • CoilyCue

          I’ve heard the phrase before, among others. And I’m from NYC. The Italians and Irish are reckless at the mouth.

          • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

            I’ve heard it too. out of the stereotype that sweat appears to glisten more on our darker skings.

        • Brother Mouzone

          She has that image of Black people sweating in the hot cotton fields(where they’re “supposed” to be)That has been ingrained in her head from birth.

      • Effrom Robinson

        I don’t think you can make that assumption, there are terms that are used in our society, we learn them.

        • cyanic

          Never heard that expression before. Now sweating like a slave yes.

          • Effrom Robinson

            I’ve never heard the term either, but “sweating like a slave” sure sounds like it didn’t start that way. I guess the question is, where is Mary Burrell from?

            • Mary Burrell

              I am from Texas

          • cedriclathan

            I’ve heard “sweating like a hoe in church”.

            • L8Comer

              now that, i’ve heard.

            • cyanic

              That’s cute. I heard you got more excuses than a f@g in church.

              • cedriclathan

                Excuses? There’s no excuse in sweating out a good perm…

              • Mary Burrell

                Heard the hoe in chuch but not the f@g in church.

              • Kat

                LMAO

            • Brother Mouzone

              The version I heard used “hooka”, lol.

        • L8Comer

          And where do u hear these terms? does your society not include your friends and family? I guess u could include co-workers? I know she isn’t hearing that on TV on the regular.

          • Effrom Robinson

            My friends and family don’t use the N-word, yet I grew up around enough people using the term in school and other social contexts. I know the word, I understand its different contexts.

            • L8Comer

              disqus keeps eating my comment. But i agree we can’t assume her family and friends say that exact phrase. Although note, after I originally posted this Mary confirmed her friend did grow up with a very racist family so the assumption that people close to her must use that language for it to come out of her mouth so casually, was correct and is def not unfounded. Of course it’s not a 100% guarantee, but it’s a strong indicator.

              I had also pointed out that a black kid hearing the n-word around them on a regular basis, especially when so many people in the community use it in a non-derogatory way, is not the same as a white person so frequently exposed to the phrase of “sweating like a niqqa” that it becomes part of her lexicon and just slips out. The use of that phrase is not wide spread in society and is not the equivalent to word “niqqa” which is on pretty much every rap record.

              • Effrom Robinson

                I agree, but I think there are also phrases that become part of the lexicon without racist family members. I think of “Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Mo,” which is now tiger, but it wasn’t always a big cat. A more recent term I can think of was adolescents calling something “gay” when they didn’t like something

                • DomiMami

                  Oh wow?. I’ve just been learned!
                  Catch a nayger by the toe?

                  But that doesnt make sense.
                  …if we hollered they would never let us go…

          • Cheech

            Stuff you hear as a child can stay with you a long time. I remember time spent with cousins on vacations in South Carolina, and one of my their expressions for “no, I’m gonna do what I want” was “I’m free, white, and 21.” I’ve never used the expression in life, but it still pops into my head more than I’m comfortable with, just from remembering my cousin and her orneriness in situations. (This cousin, 4 decades later, is the most liberaliest liberal of the liberal wing of the family.)

      • Mary Burrell

        Yes i believe they do.

      • Mary Burrell

        They are a deep South family from Missippi and this is how she was brought up.

    • King Beauregard

      My folks were real careful to teach me that slurs against blacks are wrong; however, there was the time when my mom was talking to my sister’s first grade teach Mrs. Chong, and said something about how my sister “didn’t have a Chinaman’s chance” against some bullies in the class. ::facepalm::

      • Mary Burrell

        Wow, just wow that’s bad too.

        • King Beauregard

          I don’t think she had any particular feelings about the Chinese; it’s presumably just one of those things people said when she was growing up.

          Like the term “cotton-picking”, I’m positive I used to hear it on cartoons as an all-purpose pejorative, and sometime in my teen years it dawned on me that it was not just a random word pairing.

          • Monica Harris

            Is cotton-picking a slur? I mean I guess I could see how it is, but I’ve always found the term funny not offensive

            • King Beauregard

              Maybe it’s not technically a slur, but it is definitely a swipe against blacks at some level.

              I did a quick look online and couldn’t find it, but I could swear Quick Draw McGraw said it in a cartoon at one point; I’ve got a clear fuzzy childhood memory of it. Which wouldn’t be the worst thing I’ve ever seen in a cartoon, but it’s hardly the best thing either.

              • Monica Harris

                My mother would say it as she jokingly scolded us when we were kids so I have fond memories of it. She also used the N word a lot too tho.

            • Brother Mouzone

              Cotton pickin is basically KEEP YO BLACK HANDS OFF. I mean, wypipo wasn’t pickin nothing but their noses.

              • pls

                The more you know. There were def still cotton and tobacco fields in my hometown growing up, I can’t believe I never thought more about that reference.

          • Clover1920

            Def. is not. I had a driver’s ed teacher that used it ALL THE TIME…when he retired (early 90’s) he was looked upon fondly…WTF???? whypipo people gonna white and cotton-pickin’ ain’t no where near cute!

            • King Beauregard

              “I didn’t mean anything by it” can be used to excuse many sins. I mean, it’s a terrible and wholly inadequate defense, but if you’re looking for reasons why you are not to be held accountable for using Phrases That Should Have Been Abandoned Long Ago, it’s a versatile excuse.

              Over on Slate right now I’m arguing with people who are doing the usual dances about how even complaining about the n-word is racism. That’s even worse than “I didn’t mean anything by it”.

          • Yahmo Bethere

            Used to be an exercise in PE.

          • I_AmU

            Oh that saying is real. It’s based on all of the Chinese people who helped build the railroad?s.

            • King Beauregard

              To be sure it’s real. There just could not have been that many Chinese railroad workers in the tiny Pennsylvania coal mining town my mom grew up in.

              • I_AmU

                Probably not but they came through. The Pennsylvania Railroad was headquartered in Philly. Slavery had been abolished in PA so no free labor. Exploit some other people of color but this time make them think they’re coming to the land of opportunity.

                • King Beauregard

                  Super tiny town, though, and not a place that you’d ever have grounds to visit. And my Slavic ancestors WERE the exploited labor (yeah they were white but they were also “dumb immigrants”). My point is, it’s unlikely that any actual Chinese set foot in town, but the expression made it there.

                  I do like your idea that the phrase could easily have made it there via railroad employees, though. That would make a ton of sense.

      • Mochasister

        Grimaces.

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      I’m sorry that you had to go through that Sister.

      • Mary Burrell

        I can’t tell you how many times i have been on the receiving end of microaggressions.

        • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

          This is very sad. Many folks don’t know the meaning of the Golden Rule. The struggle continues and we will continue to fight for what is right.

    • NonyaB?

      WHET. Soo pîssed on your behalf right now! I’d have to mistakenly cut her before any forgiveness can enter the equation.

      • L8Comer

        omg, i made a mistake too! I’m so clumsy. cries. please forgive me?

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          Right. Puh-lease

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      • Mary Burrell

        I was taken aback when it happened and she apologized and cried and we said a prayer about the ugly incident. She’s trying to be a better person.

        • cyanic

          You prayed with her too! Yes white Jesus.

          • Mary Burrell

            Behave.

            • cyanic

              Laughs. I know the whole thing is delicate for you. I can’t imagine someone I felt was a friend went there. Super awkward being in a car where you can’t just walk away from them.

              • Mary Burrell

                Yeah that too she paid for all our food and drinks that day. She knows what she needs to do to correct herself.

                • L8Comer

                  i hope you ordered the steak and lobster and the most expensive drink on the menu lol.

                  • Mary Burrell

                    I had a very nice meal in a nice part of the city at a nice restaurant.

                    • Mochasister

                      Reparations?

                  • Photoshop’s a helluva drug

                    And took home a plate.

                    • grownandsexy2

                      Yas, for later. lol

                  • grownandsexy2

                    You killing me softly. lol

                • Ur always tries to buy u, she’s not your friend.

                • Junegirl627

                  In that case you should do as the white people has taught us. Take everything that is offered with a smile on your face. Ask for more than she ever intended to give. Act like the word no is a curse word. Then the moment they longer serve a purpose including the moment youfinding someone more palatable to provide services they are doing for you, Ghost them in the speediest and efficient way known to man. Then act like you don’t know them if you seem them on the street. “I don’t know herrrrr”

          • Mary Burrell

            You are too funny.

          • Naw.. more like HAYLENAWBLACKJESUS

          • grownandsexy2

            Cackles!

        • Kat

          Yea…no. I ain’t bowing my head with no one after that.

          • cyanic

            Or have my eyes closed.

            • Kat

              At all.

            • I_AmU

              Nor am I going to brunch with a person who on the sneak tip doesn’t respect me. I keep telling y’all don’t trust them. They’re dangerous.

          • Mary Burrell

            I hear you and i understand your choice.

          • cedriclathan

            I’d let them put their head down first though, then smack it.

            • Mary Burrell

              Mr. Lathan you are a funny man.

            • L8Comer

              lmaoooo, beat the devil out of them

              • cedriclathan

                Somebody’s gotta do it…

              • BrothasKeeper

                A full rebuke.

            • grownandsexy2

              lol

            • pls

              My old roommate in college was always the only white person everywhere we went. She got lightly smacked by our mutual guy friend when she “accidentally” said the n word while singing a song. Gotta let em know ya boundaries as soon as it happens!

              • Ivy Bennett

                ???

          • Brown Rose

            Yes indeed.

          • Monica Harris

            Are you a praying kind of person?

            • Kat

              Meaning? What’s your definition of a praying type of person?

              • Monica Harris

                I mean do you usually pray about things in your life?

                • Kat

                  I do.

        • NonyaB?

          You’re a better person. This atheist woulda been like “nope, you know I’m godless Jane, so I’ma have to cut ya!”

          • Mary Burrell

            Nonya, you are so funny you make me laugh. (LOL). I am ugly cackling right know.

            • NonyaB?

              Nonya B. Real! ?

              • Janelle Doe

                And we are all the way here for it.
                (One time, I had a friend of a friend look at a politicians poster and say “we should get his team to lighten those up, he looks black”
                I started counting down from 10 and my friend let me off at the next corner to preserve everyone’s sanity and more.)

                • NonyaB?

                  Whoosah! They tried it. I’m kinda mad at your friend for saving the fool by letting you get off early.

                  • Janelle Doe

                    Yeah. Let’s just say we eased it back to acquaintanceship

          • Kat

            Religion or nah…Ida saged my a@@ on up out of that car. I don’t need apologies for your truths.

            • Liz

              Right?! That word don’t slip out by accident without some practice beforehand. Must’ve been like second nature to her.

          • Junegirl627

            I can’t and will never can, lol!

        • WigginsHair

          OK but she cried because she inadvertently said it in your presence – not because she said it out loud for the first time. And, in a way, isn’t it sweet? She felt so comfortable around you that she could truly be herself like she is around her family and closest friends…

          And I’m assuming she dropped it with an especially hard ‘R’ for ya

        • I would’ve prayed not to fukk her up while the car was moving.

          If it “slipped” that easily.. she says it a lot.

          • Mochasister

            Yep. That’s what really on her heart.

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          Baha! I wonder how that prayer went

        • Junegirl627

          I don’t think you should’ve accepted her apology or continued the friendship because she didn’t apologize because she said it. She wasn’t embarassed by what she said. She was embarrassed and sorry she said what she said in front of you. Which means that it is likely that she has said “nigg@h this and ni$g@ that” when you aren’t around.

          Remember people slip up when on their best behavior. So if you don’t normally curse its highly unlikely that a random “fluck” is gonna slip out while talking with grandma’s church group but if you curse like a sailer in a wwhorehouse lets hope non of grandma’s friends are on heart med. you know what i mean.

          • Evorgleb

            Yeh she wasnt upset that she said it, she was upset about who heard it.

        • Mochasister

          I don’t know that I would have been able to pray for her at that moment. I’m just being honest. As a Christian I would have to forgive her. But the relationship would not be the same. I would be thinking that comment is what you really think about me and other Black people.

      • Ashley W.

        Right! My reflexes would’ve reached out and touched as soon as she completed the last syllable.

      • lkeke35

        Yeah, there would’ve had to be a blood sacrifice, and a religious ritual to black Jesus, before forgiveness could occur.

      • Msdebbs

        You better than me….my version of that story would’ve started off like “this white B I used to hang out with etc.. I don’t play them N word games eff dat!

    • Replace this tale with two men, and a fuckin donnybrook woulda broke out in the front seat.

      • Mary Burrell

        I can imagine it caught me by surprise but i kind of wasn’t knowing her family background.

      • Mary Burrell

        Pop’s i have never heard of a “donnybrook” before but i am think it’s brother’s beating each other down.

        • Chin music.
          Fisticuffs.
          A flat out free for all.

          • Mary Burrell

            All of that equals physical assault.

            • True.
              And I know some cats that would’ve went there.

              • grownandsexy2

                Especially Philly cats.

                • Abby

                  Bears repeating: especially Philly cats. Most of them are just waiting for an excuse.

      • conlakappa

        Vaguely slur against the Irish, along with paddy wagon, innit?

      • pls

        Can a muhfucka say fuck on here? *samuel l. jackson voice*

      • La Bandita

        Replace it with a Black guy and a white girl after chex. Nothing happened. He said more chexy time was had.

    • Kat

      Yea…heat and liquor bring out truths

      • Mary Burrell

        Yeah it wasn’t the first time so when i heard this about Bill Maher i wasn’t surprised.

        • Kat

          It wasn’t the first time she said it around you?

          • Mary Burrell

            She has never said this to me before.

            • KNeale

              But you heard it so you know it happened. Not saying you did anything wrong I understand that you believe this person is your friend. I’m just sayin, don’t wait around for hard evidence that you already have. Accept she’s racist whether she stays your friend or not.

          • Mary Burrell

            She has made off color comments in the past that i have heard her say to other people.

            • L8Comer

              oh Mary… groans.

              • Mary Burrell

                It’s just the ignorance of the dominant culture i don’t want to throw them all in the trash because there are some decent folks in all races.

                • L8Comer

                  you’re right. but there’s plenty of white folks who would never say anything like that. Like LMNOP or Cheech. Those are the type of white people I’d let be part of my world. U can only claim ignorance for so long. Also, i don’t wanna be friends with ignorant people. When it borders and crosses into racism, i just dont have the energy. i’m sure there are other great aspects of the person and i’m not here to rage against people, but i dont want to be involved either.

                  • Helga G.Pataki

                    “I don’t wanna be friends with ignorant people” you said a word right there!

                • SHE’S TRASH..

                  • Mochasister

                    Lol!

                • lkeke35

                  Yeah, but “friend” is a strong word, tho’. I gotta be sure they gon ‘ride or die’ for me before they can earn that title. Can you knock her back to acquaintance, or work buddy?

                • Photoshop’s a helluva drug

                  I have ignorant white acquaintances but my white friends are aware of their ignorance and would not say any of those things i. My presence or not. You can be cordial but don’t let her have the friend title because it only justifies her behavior in her mind.

                • Junegirl627

                  Yes but that person is Trash. I have a lot of friends and co workers from different races and they would never say anything like period because they know it’s wrong. and most of them don’t even know I’m violent.

                • miss em

                  so yeah, there are decent white folks SHE IS NOT ONE OF THEM. *AHEM*

            • Kat

              You better than me. But I get it.

            • Why is this person your “friend” again??

            • KNeale

              This doesn’t sound like a “friend”.

            • grownandsexy2

              Off color doesn’t do the comment justice. I’d have to let her know I heard it too.

            • Kemi

              Yo, your friend is super fucking racist, and definitely not your friend.

            • AnotherBlackGirl

              You didn’t correct?? Shes a racist and I would have checked her right there on the spot whether it was the work place or not.

            • CoilyCue

              Girl, she is not your friend. Get it together.

            • Mochasister

              This person is not your friend. And if she really is a Christian she needs to think about her behavior is supposed to be representing Christ. This is probably why I have not had a close white friend since the fifth grade.

      • grownandsexy2

        Liquor is sho nuff truth serum.

        • Mochasister

          Ain’t it tho’?

      • kingpinenut

        never chill around white folks…they will a$$ out later or sooner

    • cedriclathan

      The only thing that would have worked is if it was your car and you were driving and said,”good, get out and sweat some more!”

      • Mary Burrell

        LOL

        • La Bandita

          No tengo nada – I told the story before. My wyte friend said she didn’t want black babies and started crying and apologizing. I was like wait… I am having ALL of the black babies – don’t worry. She was secretly sleeping with a Black guy and was considering it I guess.

          • Mochasister

            Wait, she didn’t want Black babies but she was having chex with a Black man? ¡Qué reloca!

            • La Bandita

              She was just sleeping with him, because the wyte guy she was trying to get had benched her for an Asian girl. This was a wyte guy to get too. He was tall, had money came from a “good” (evil) family etc.,

              • Mochasister

                I hope her birth control game was on point. No biracial kid would deserve to have her as a mother.

                • La Bandita

                  He can be googled and such and really, really liked her. And he has an apt on 5th Ave (that he owns!) and he got us 3rd row seats on fashion week. Don’t underestimate the Black guy come up – its very common.

                  • Mochasister

                    I wonder how he would felt knowing her feelings on having biracial children. The way some Black people are about white validation he probably would have still pursued her. Did they get married?

                    • La Bandita

                      He pursued, but he was just a back up peni, while she was benched. I meet him twice y ella lo vio por un ano. Wyte guys are ruthless and he came back, then replaced her w/younger version of herself.

                    • Mochasister

                      I am still single and would love to get married. But when I read and hear about people playing all of these silly games it makes me not want to even attempt dating.

                    • La Bandita

                      Im like Kas, I luuvvv being married. Dont let anyone stop you from finding love – its your birth right. Don’t play games, have your own internal rules regarding love and be willing to cut him off like a wart at any sign he’s not loyal to only you. And don’t bench yourself – time es un pendejo.

    • Brown Rose

      Mary I just couldn’t after that. I would never see the same way. I would see them as harboring racist views forever.

    • DinIndy

      And did you educate her as to the entirety of the phrase, because that’s only half of it?

    • She’s not your friend

    • KNeale

      When you say she started to cry I actually laughed out loud.

      • grownandsexy2

        She cried cause she thought Mary was gon beat her azz..

    • DomiMami

      Gasp!
      ?(my face as that came out of her mouth, wondering if I pounce, or keep it cute and use words instead)

    • Erin

      LMAO at she started to cry. Typical white woman “I’m the victim” BS. Definitely would’ve gotten out of that car (to avoid the backhand she deserved) and would NEVER be her “friend” at all after that. I’ve never heard anyone use that phrase before so you know her racism runs deep.

    • t1oracle

      I have a white neighbor who let that word slip twice in my presence. He apologized both times. He wasn’t referring to anyone in either case and I understand he’s a drunk from a family of drug addicts. I forgave him. I still keep an eye on him though.

      Although my folks are immigrants (Nigeria & Trinidad), so maybe it doesn’t sting me as much. I get more upset when someone calls me “the whitest black guy,” because I have a culture they don’t understand. That one never comes with any apology. It also isn’t any better when a black person says it.

      Regardless, I accept that people have to work on themselves. It’s the people who refuse to see it that rebuke wholly. I will defend black people, Jewish people, Muslim people, handicapped, LGBTQIA, etc it doesn’t have to be my identity for me to see the wrong in it and step in. I think if white people did that more, we wouldn’t have the orange menance in the White House.

    • AnotherBlackGirl

      Many Black people forgive white people in a minute. They forgive them over worse scenarios than your friend saying the N word. I would not have forgiven her. She would no longer be considered my friend.

      • CoilyCue

        You’re right…black folks will forgive a white person for murder but hold a grudge agaist pookie for 20 years over $10.00 he never paid back.

        • AnotherBlackGirl

          I know I have never understood that. Its apparent that this poster has been “white washed”. Smh

      • pls

        If racism is ingrained in them, turning the other cheek (for non whites especially) is ingrained in us. Systematic racism could end if white people understood just how brainwashed most black people are in this regard. Rightfully so, they can’t conceive that we as a people could just forgive them and move on bc it’s not their pathology at all.

    • CoilyCue

      Uh, there is no forgiveness for that….GTFOH.

    • Brother Mouzone

      Whuuuuut??? Dayum!

    • pls

      “…and she immediately started to cry…”

      https://media.giphy.com/media/L8J6ymfuu2kAE/giphy.gif

    • HoneyRose

      I love that her first reaction was to cry, too. As if her emotional pain in that moment was greater than yours.

    • Mochasister

      See. This is what I’m talking about. It’s so deeply ingrained in them. And the sad thing is you could just have very easily been her significant other. That’s why I don’t buy their stupid “colorblindness” or “Love sees no color.” nonsense. We have all been infected with this racial ugliness including them. No matter how much they want to pretend that they’re over it. This is why I have serious doubts about their ability to truly love or respect any Black man, woman, or child.

    • Shuntayvious
    • miss em

      cry? CRY? HEAUX NEAUX. I would have been like “you go eat overpriced eggs by yourself, you dummy.”

  • L8Comer

    How do y’all feel about Asians and Latinos using the word?

    • cyanic

      Nonwhite non-black people can be anti-black too.

      • L8Comer

        agreed. So Issa no, for u?

        • cyanic

          Si.

        • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

          You’re right.

      • I’d argue that MANY are.

    • Ess Tee

      Nah, I’m not cool with it.

      Unrelated: Just left the farner’s market where I had steamed buns at the Korean stand. A great way to conclude my morning run lol

      • L8Comer

        omg, omg :) I’m going around 12 for lunch. I like the Chancho bowl. The chef remembers my order :)

        Also, not cool with it either lol.

        • Ess Tee

          I’m gonna have to try the chancho bowl next time. I got two BBQs and a veggie today.

          • L8Comer

            i’m thinking about changing it up, but… i hate trying something new and missing the old thing. Incidentally, this is why I’m not having chex. How’s the beef? i kinda love pork belly.

            • Ess Tee

              The beef is so good! I love the sauce that they use, which I forget what it is, but I like it.

              • L8Comer

                okay, okay maybe i’ll try something new today lol.

    • NonyaB?

      Nyet. Pretty sure they’d have a problem with a Black person using “wetback”, “chingchong” or making slanty-eyed jokes, so they better refrain.

      • L8Comer

        my sentiments exactly. and i would never… so i don’t understand the need to be able to say the n-word.

        • LMNOP

          That’s what I don’t get either. White people using that word has such a long, terrible, and hateful history. I would never in a million years want to use a word that is that hurtful, and any white person who does want to say it, I mean WHY would they want to say it? And if they do, that’s all you need to know about them.

          • L8Comer

            Exactly, L. I can’t understand why they are just itching to say it! I’m never attempted to use racial slurs and feel I have to really bite my tongue and hold myself back. Those words are just not part of my lexicon.

            • conlakappa

              Two white boys I knew in college were given special dispensation by their black housemates. No, not kidding. It was part of a long, drawn-out discussion/negotiation with the white boys making the case that they heard it in the house all the time so why wouldn’t they be allowed to say it? One was off doing a semester abroad, leaving the remaining white guy living with 2 black guys and 1 [East] Indian girl. This was in Virginia in the 1980s so not typical, or technically legal because of the girl. Things took a weird turn when one of the white boys used it outside the house, on campus, in active discussion with one of the black guys from the house. I was among maybe 10 other black people present; the word hung in the air while we black folks gasped. Twas awkward.

              • L8Comer

                Omg what happened after? That’s so awkward and I guess was kinda bound to happen.

                I’m surprised one of the black guys didn’t just shut it down with an “I’ll beat your azz”. Easy peasy

                • conlakappa

                  It was so stunning and I knew the back story; I doubt e’eryone in the group did. IIRC, we all sort of peeled away slowly. I don’t know if the dispensation was revoked or the terms renegotiated!

                  • L8Comer

                    lmao @ terms being renegotiated! This a great story lol.

            • La Bandita

              They want to say it in public like in the old days. They want to say the word talking to their friends while staring you in the eyes. That’s what I think anyway.

          • Monica Harris

            Let’s be real. Hip hop is the most popular genre of music in the world. The word is used a lot in that music. I don’t think they associate it with our terrible past.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        I’d throw in Mr. Chin for my Yardies.

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      I don’t agree with Asians or Latinos using the word.

    • Mary Burrell

      I hate being on the commuter train and young Mexican school kids are using it. I personally hate this word. I wish it would die a quick death.

    • nillalatte

      Personally, I don’t like racial slurs coming out of anyone’s mouth.

      • Mary Burrell

        Me either

    • Brown Rose

      No. Absolutely not. Their anti blackness can be worse then white people. No.

      • L8Comer

        true

    • Love Heals

      One presumes when you say Latinos, you’re excluding Afro-Latinos, from the prohibited list.

      • L8Comer

        yep, thanks for adding the nuance.

        to take it even further, does it matter if the Afro-Latino identifies as black ? e.g. my friend’s cousin in half dominican half ecaudorian. He looks black. he uses the n-word, but he doesn’t think of himself as black. and when i told my friend he looked like black man, she was like noooooo, no way, he does not! which was confusing, cuz he looks like he could be my brother. but apparently him and her brother also did not think I was black. and for the record, i am not ambiguous looking. i’m clearly black.

        • DomiMami

          I hate those tyoes of Afro-Latinos/Latinas (hate the word Latinex).
          Like, dude, Spanish blood ain’t strong enough to mute those African tones and features.

          Embrace that melanin!

          Hubbs is Puerto Rican and Mexican and he has some crazy stories about checking his bredren, who disavow clearly present African blood flowing through them. Craziness…

        • Love Heals

          Yeah, the whole, “I’m NOT Black”, though phenotypically so, confounds me, too. The emphatic way folks insist me irks me. It’s as if they fear erasure of their (misperceived) proximity to nonBlackness. Then again, since “Black American” is exclusively known as the name for our folks indigenous to the U.S., some not trying to deny their race, say “I’m not Black. I’m Bajan, Kenyan”, etc. I fear that some use this because African-American claims an allegiance or solidarity they don’t want. Sadly, some continental Africans also want you to know that they, too, have other “roots”. And by roots, I mean a similar connection to “otherness” that some African-Americans use when referencing distant real or imagined Native/Indigenous American ancestors. Anyhoo, as far as dude who doesn’t identify as Black, NAW he shouldn’t be using the word, particularly because I suspect he has a mental hierarchy where Black is base.

          • La Bandita

            As an Afro Latino how can we fix this? Black American is not the only type of Blackness. You have Africans from the entire content of Africa, Afro caribe, Afro Latinos, European Blacks and Afro Brazilians. We have to be able to like the East Asians Korean, Japaneses, Chinese keep our ethnicity without being pushed into the narrow Black American Box. The rest of us have immigration issues Black Americans do not always get behind (just one example).

            • Love Heals

              You’ve set me a daunting task, Snra Bandita. I’ll do my best. Indeed, I argue that all of us, Black folks (regardless of point of origin), who are citizens ARE Black Americans. I like African-American for Blacks from the U.S. since the specific points of origins are unknown in what was a mostly White country. To your point, there are many “flavors/flavours” of Blackness, and we should be able to be visible as well.Continental Africans, typically refer to themselves as Senegalese-Americans, for example, as opposed to African-American. However, racially African-American/Black works as a racial identifier. Brazilian-Americans, Guyanese-Americans, Cuban-Americans, because of my bias conjures images of Black people, though there are people of different races there. You’re so right about immigration struggles. As you know, there are sometimes significant legal differences. A Puerto Rican doesn’t have the visa fight of someone from la Republica Dominicana. Ditto the person from St. Thomas the documentation fight of a Haitian or a Nigerian. I love the idea of visibility of and solidarity with all Black groups characterized by appreciation of the unique obstacles and triumphs of each.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      I feel like they should be dealt with appropriately.

      • L8Comer

        that sounds scary. what does that mean?

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Disinviting from the cook out is where I would start.

    • Monica Harris

      Hard, hard no. It’s almost worse. As someone else said, they use it to be “cool” and if you call them on it they’ll say “we not white” while harboring deep anti-black sentiments.

    • grownandsexy2

      Nope.

    • La Bandita

      I really, really getting upset at Hispanics, Latinos, Spaniards using the N word. They are just as racist as anyone else. Asians luuuuvvvvvv wyte people and now I found out that most consider themselves white. So they canjust keep their heads up wyte peoples butt – I am ok with that.

  • NonyaB?

    Bill’s been known for his racism, Islamophobia and Black poon supremacist d*ck. Unfunny muthafucker started at the faux-liberal bottom, worked his way up to the top of feeling himself enough to throw the n-word on air because he’s on the cutting edge and officially “on our side”. Great representative of that insidious trait known as liberal bigotry. He’II hopefully find the bleeding edge soon because that’s what happens to fools who overplay the cutting edge.

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      Teach.

    • Mary Burrell

      I was on the light rail coming home from my job this morning and saw this scrolling on my mobile device. I was not surprised Bill Maher said this.

      • NonyaB?

        Exactly, I really wasn’t surprised either.

    • AlwaysPi7

      Pretty much.

    • JD_Challenger

      How is he Islamophobic? He’s been vocal against people committing terrorism in the name of Islam especially since it’s been increasing worldwide in the past few years.

      • King Beauregard

        Here’s how he’s Islamophobic: his argument is ultimately that being a good and true Muslim means being a terrible person and doing horrible things; any Muslim who doesn’t do that stuff isn’t being a true Muslim. Which is to say, there is no such thing as a good Muslim. The very most favorable interpretation of that is, Islam is a corrupting influence that will influence an otherwise-good person for the worse.

        But the guy doesn’t deserve that much benefit of the doubt. Remember that 14-year-old Muslim kid who disassembled a clock and brought it into school for science class, and caught holy heck because all the local bigots claimed it was a bomb despite the kid saying over and over that it was simply a clock? Maher was still trying to justify their bigotly reaction long after reasonable people had started to calm down:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGit-XltUB4

        Elsewhere on the Intertubes I picked apart Maher’s argument thusly:

        “If we stop and think – was it really such a ridiculous reaction from the teacher and the police in the first place?”

        Yes it was. Ahmed had already shown it to one or more teachers and told them it was a clock, not a bomb.

        “Because, is it possible, that maybe, just maybe, this was actually a hoax bomb?”

        No it wasn’t. Ahmed had already shown it to one or more teachers and told them it was a clock, not a bomb.

        “I don’t know any of these things.”

        We have this quote:

        “”He would simply only tell us that it was a clock,” police spokesman James McLellan says. “He didn’t offer an explanation as to what it was for.””

        “But I do like to find facts where I can, and prefer to let them lead me to conclusions, rather than a knee jerk judgement based on a headline or sound bite.”

        And if you have the opportunity to cast aspersions on a 14-year-old Muslim kid … ? That’s the best thing of all!

        • JD_Challenger

          Ohhhh that Bill! Yeah I’m watching this clip and he’s willing to extend understanding to the kid’s plight and I guess mark cuban is an Islamaphobe too, cuz he talked to the kid, examined the situation and could see Maher’s point too, right? I’m not too crazy about defending this, all I can say is that worse and weirder things can happen—and that mess don’t look like a clock either.

          As for your other point, he has hit the nail on the head about the nuances between so-called moderate Muslims and radical Muslims. All he was doing was building an argument based on pew polls of Muslims and their attitudes toward suicide bombings.

          http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

          This is a so-called “unbiased” source that happens to cite that 25% of a sample in a MidEast nation such as Egypt believes suicide bombing can be justified is such a “minority”. It’s not a majority but it’s not so small. I wouldn’t put it in those terms but I’ve heard him say that a lot of those so-called moderate Muslims who would never do those terrible things probably think someone who criticizes Islam or the Prophet has some bad ish comin’ to them and that they’re just too much of a punk to do anything. In that sense, I agree with him. The sense of how a lot of Muslims view religion is different than in our popular culture. In America you have plenty tradition of humanists, post-conventional moralizers, moral relativists and a whole lot of others in the Judeo-Christian religion who have learned to “follow their heart” and they abandon their family-given dogma and doctrine when it conflicts with what they want to do. You dont really see a lot of traditional Muslims espouse that train of thought in public. They seem to have a more black and white, halal or haraam position. There’s hardly any equivocation from them…in public, I add again. I’ve rarely heard a follower of the Quran denounce the violence against non-believers, apostates and infidels the way you may hear a Christian or Jew practically apologize for their religion and say “yeah there’s some crazy mess in that Bible…I just love me some Jesus though!”
          Sorry if that sounds rude, but that’s what I see.

          • King Beauregard

            “I’m not too crazy about defending this”

            … but still you’re willing to power through.

            “and that mess don’t look like a clock either”

            Oh goddammit. What WOULD a disassembled electronic clock look like?

            You’re clinging so tight to your own dislike of Muslims, your fan approval of Maher, or both that you’ll consider it a victory if you walk away from this with no new ideas in your head. Well, enjoy your victory then. Just understand that you’re doing pretty much what any white racist does when they want to “prove” how violent and uncivilized blacks are: they cite black-on-black crime statistics, they point out that Trayvon Martin once said something “gangsta” on Facebook, and so on.

            • JD_Challenger

              I don’t dislike Muslims. I loathe people who use their religion to perpetuate acts of violence and mass murder. My affinity for Bill Maher, who I admit can be a clownish douchebag aside, I noticed that you didn’t dare respond to my other points and cited sources.
              So by your assessment, if I say things I don’t like about certain White People, or if I criticize white supremacy, that means I “don’t like” white people. (As if most people would really care if I did, I know.) But because muslims are a political minority in this country, I should ignore the geopolitical intentions of their violent members worldwide.
              Hey KingBeauregard, I’ve been lurking on here for awhile. I noticed that these commenters got you saying the right things, the woke things, the inclusive, open-minded things, but don’t be too open-minded. You’ve got yourself so wrapped up in liberal white guilt and overcompensation for institutional racism you can’t admit basic truths about people based on observation of current events. This is what I love about being Black during these times. I am not encumbered by liberal White guilt. Dummies already assume we have chips on our shoulders so why not “power through” as you call it and use common sense with some basic statistics.

            • Kullervo

              It seems Bill Maher was largely fueled by his annoyance that the narrative was spun into “genius future engineer has brilliant invention mistaken for bomb” when really, this kid took the casing off his clock radio and brought the guts to school, on a day when there was no such assignment to bring in an invention or project.

              • King Beauregard

                I was a little annoyed by that as well, as I am the sort of nerd who hears about “building clocks” and thinks in terms of 555 timer chips. Yet somehow I never once found myself trying to make the case that the teachers and the cops were right to first ignore the kid when he repeatedly said “it’s just a clock”, and then later declare that it was a bomb hoax because they overreacted.

                The kid showed the clock to his science teacher early in the day. He wasn’t sneaking around school waiting to be accidentally discovered and make everyone panic.

        • NonyaB?

          Never mind the fact that despite all the hue and cry, the #1 demographic for terror incidents in the US remains the same: young white male. Ridiculous.

          • King Beauregard

            Yeah but they’re all lone nuts and not at all indicative of the culture they grew up under. And it’s not even “terrorism” so much as “being good ol’ boys with a rambunctious streak”. Seriously, how DARE you hold them to your arbitrary standards of conduct??? You’re trying to ruin their lives!!!11!!1!

      • NonyaB?

        How is he Islamophobic? In the definitive way, including making bigoted and
        sometimes false declarations about the religion. I’ve seen enough examples in the past of his Islamophobia, racism, misogyny, etc, hence why I stopped watching him aeons ago.

        You clearly feel similarly to Bill, including stating below that you’ve rarely ever heard Muslims denounce terroristic violence. Yet, others like me I
        hear Muslims denounce such ALL the time, even when isn’t any attack happening. The fact that you may rely on biased or
        closed news sources that wouldn’t feature such doesn’t mean it’s not
        happening.

        I’m done here.

        • JD_Challenger

          I meant that they don’t denounce the Qurannic sources of violence in the way that people of Christian and Jewish faith discard anachronistic passages of violence, radicalization or hyper-traditional cultural elements. Maher may have an uncouth way of stating that Islam needs a reform, which I HAVE heard a few so-called moderate Muslims state, but if you can’t admit that much, that Islam needs a reformation, because it’s religion does spur the greatest amount of extremist violence in the world, then maybe you really are done.

          • NonyaB?

            Again: I’m not interested in debating on a douchebag I couldn’t care less for and your shifting goalposts or inserting false equivalencies won’t change that. Bye.

            • JD_Challenger

              Why did you post a cartoon stating a bar graph depicting Muslim terrorist acts as 463 and Christian terror acts as 3? I bet you when Muslims start killing lots of Black Americans and not just Africans then you’ll care. BYE!

              • NonyaB?

                Sarcasm; heard of it? To help you keep to fact that this convo is terminated: catch this block.

                • JD_Challenger

                  Catch this block

          • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

            LOL @ “I meant that they don’t denounce the Qurannic sources of violence in the
            way that people of Christian and Jewish faith discard anachronistic
            passages of violence, radicalization or hyper-traditional cultural
            elements.”

            Oh word..is that what Chistian and Jewish people have done?? Lol.

            • JD_Challenger

              Yeah they do. People in our mainstream culture are on average not nearly as traditionally religious as those in the Islamic culture.

      • CheGueverraWitBlingOn
        • JD_Challenger

          Ok, my turn.
          https://ent.siteintelgroup.com
          https://www.counterextremism.com/#mobile-nav

          Wow look at how the top religious extremists and most horrendously violent perpetrators are of an islamic background. It’s no wonder an entertaining clown like Maher goes over the top to prove a point, because he’s reacting to the people who want to say there’s no objective difference between purveyors of the Abrahamic religions and various extremist subcultures.

    • Cheech

      Yup. He’s been a superdouche for a long time. He shoulda lost his show long ago, not for any specific incident (cue the free speech sirens) but for general douchery.

      • NonyaB?

        Exactly. Kind of amazing that in 2017, anybody can say otherwise when even the idiot in question would find it hard to deny his own crap.

    • Looking4Treble

      “Great representative of that insidious trait known as liberal bigotry”.

      Preach.

    • CheGueverraWitBlingOn

      Preach. He is the archetype of the full of themselves white liberal whose sense of entitlement and privilege bleeds effortlessly over in to racism.

  • Effrom Robinson

    I have a little problem with the outrage here. Louis CK and George Carlin have used the n-word in their stand up and there has never been such a response. Part of that is because it’s not on live TV so they’re less attached 24-hour news cycle, but the other big part is that they were not trying to be racist. Context is everything. Poor choice of words? Yes. Dumb joke? Yes. Racist? No. We need to remember context and appropriate level of response. There is a big difference between this and right-wingers making crass jokes, the right-wingers are trying to be racist.

    • cyanic

      I’m not in a frenzy behind it because the intent was to appropriate the term for self-deprecation.

    • L8Comer

      i, and i assume most others, had no idea that Louis and Carlin have said that. Probably for the reasons u mentioned.

      Also fuck George Carlin.

      Also, u can be outraged over a dumb, crass joke even if u don’t think it’s racist.

      Also Maher isn’t trying to be racist, thats the argument? So, he just is? But he didn’t mean to be. It was a mistake. Eh. I’m no fan and i thought he was a racist jerk long before this.

      I totalllyyyy support this outrage and i’m not even outraged. I’d like to watch his career go up in smoke just cuz its Saturday. I mean, i don’t like him, i think he is a racist, and if he’s not punished it’s a total double standard that makes liberals look hypocritical. I wish the camera had panned the audience. that woulda been interesting to see lol.

      • Effrom Robinson

        What’s your beef with George Carlin? Carlin’s joke was about racism when he used the term, it was very appropriate.

        As for not trying to be racist, words are always about context and intent. When a person calls something, wicked, sick, or stupid, depending on the usage, we know whether it is a negative connotation or not. The use of the N-word here was stupid, but to call it racist is ridiculous. No one saying he didn’t mean to be racist because he was not being racist.

        • Wizznilliam

          If you agree it was stupid why is it so hard for you to understand the outrage? There is a reason that it is stupid. That reason is this outrage. Of course black people who don’t like trying to read between the lines to figure out if this particular white person is secretly racist behind our backs, are going to be outraged?. Plenty of people know that Carlin maybe made a clever joke in a special and was able to get away with using it. Other people don’t care to even know who the-hell he is. I don’t expect a black comedian to completely get away with using smear terms of other groups either. Chappelle just had SEVERAL articles written about the word and joke he said about the trans community.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Folks like black/white rules.

          White folks n-wording it up (their word I might add) don’t EVER get a pass, period, end of story, no debate, no soul searching, no context, no trying to understand.

          Not while rapping along
          Not while quoting someone else
          Not mispronouncing the adjective for poor and stingy
          And to be honest, snickers must be followed by bar. It can’t even be used for the laughing synonym.

          Hard line, period. Give them no quarter.

          • JD_Challenger

            That’s hilarious. I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not. How about the European sportscaster who referred to Serena Willaims as playing “guerrilla tennis” and didn’t have the cultural wherewithal to understand by the way he pronounced it, that the word sounded like historical slur “gorilla” that has been used against Blacks and a buncha crybabies got him fired? People need to get over some of this ish and let the little stuff go.

      • Janelle Doe

        “I’d like to watch his career go up in smoke just cuz its Saturday. ”
        Remind me never to get on your bad side
        :-)

        • L8Comer

          Lolol I’m just an observer, I’m not about to call hbo or get on twitter. My bad side is just silence.

  • Wizznilliam

    I don’t get why he thought that was going to be funny. Nor do I get why his audience thought it was cool to try to bail him out. I get uncomfortable when black people/comedians talk about house and field_niggas. I sure as heck am not going to take it well coming from a too comfortable white dude. He is a grown man that spends plenty of time around black people. He knows the rules. If he loses his show (which he probably won’t) I will have no sympathy.

    • LMNOP

      If he loses his show, I’m sure he’d end up with a new one on Fox News or something.

      • Wizznilliam

        True…true. That will always have plenty of options to make money.

    • Effrom Robinson

      I’ve never quite understood the discomfort being any more or any less depending on who is using it. I don’t use the word myself, but I also look at the context of everything. He clearly wasn’t trying to use it in a racist context, but the joke was stupid. It clearly wasn’t a planned joke, it’s one of those jokes that presents itself so you go for the quick witty comment. “Someone made a joke about working in the field, a house slave-field slave joke fits here.” I guess the question should be, if he used slave instead of the N-word, would anyone be outraged? If swapping the word means the outrage is gone, then it really wasn’t racist in the first place. Compare that to comparing Michelle Obama to an ape; it doesn’t matter how you slice it, it’s racist.

      • fedup

        However, people aren’t just judging it on face value though. This is Bull Maher, a known problematic. Within his personal historical context, This fool needs to get dragged right to the gutter.

        • Effrom Robinson

          A known problematic with regard to black people? I think he is wholly intolerant of Muslims, but black people? No. At the same time, he is also fiercely anti-religious.

          • L8Comer

            Why does it matter if he’s known to be problematic regarding Muslims versus black people? Idk, i just equate one with the other. If u are capable of being racist against one group, I’m not okay with that. I also tend to believe racism isn’t all that selective and if that mentality is present with one group, it’s present with others.

            • Effrom Robinson

              Because his attacks on Islam are not race-based, it’s religion-based. He hates Islam in Chechnya as much as he hates Islam in Saudi Arabia. As for why it matters, it comes across as simply trying to “get him” and less to do with what was actually said. The problem obviously is not about his conduct and has turned into simply going after him because you dislike him in some other regard.

              • His attacks on Islam are ignorant, though. He seems to give Jews and Christians a pass for their history in order to shame Muslims.

                • NonyaB?

                  Exactly. His islamophobia is not cited for him telling the truth about the religion, it’s for him making bigoted and sometimes false declarations while ignoring equivalent issues in the other religions.

                • conlakappa

                  His having a Christian parent and a Jewish parent might have something to do with that. I think most if his knowledge of Islam comes from Ayun what’sherangry.

                • Effrom Robinson

                  I think his one blind spot is Judaism (the entire notion of an Israeli state is based on religion, but he likely gives it pass because of the secular government), but he’s always been against Christians, let’s not ignore his anti-Christian record. He only turns the volume up on Muslims because he believes the Left often gives them a pass for things they would never defend in the US or Europe (in that regard, he does have a point).

              • L8Comer

                i mean i don’t care if people are simply trying to “get him”. He’s long overdue for a dragging. And i believe he is a bigot. And racist. and its Saturday!!

                • NonyaB?

                  He’s way overdue to be off air and if this is the thing that tips that wish over into reality, excellent.

                  • L8Comer

                    We’re on the same page.

              • fedup

                Bull shict, on all fronts. One, you don’t have to be a foaming at the mouth red neck racist to be understood to have racist tendencies. I stopped watching his show years ago, because I deemed him to be the same as other rich wyt liberals; on the real prejudiced + elitist, based on how he interacts with guests of color and on various issues, just below racist, but cloaked under theory that you can’t be racist if you’re a liberal.

                Secondly, I am so tired of new people tryna over analyze everything, in the name of having clear examples of racist behavior. There is a saying that goes “If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck…” I’ve been on this earth long enough, and have personally experienced enough racism in my lifetime to know a UC when I see one. You can feel free to try and use the scientific method on things to explain away problematic behavior all you want. In the meantime, I’m gon call a spade a spade whenever I recognize it.

                • L8Comer

                  i know, cuz which black people do this in real life? I don’t need to see my co-worker flying a confederate and spewing hatred to know he’s racist. I know a bigot when I see one. And, I’m not outraged, I’m tickled at his impending doom.

                • Effrom Robinson

                  There is no over-analysis, there is racist intent and no racist intent. Simple as that. All the claims of who can and cannot use certain language is where the over-analysis comes into play. Sgt. Waters using the N-word in “A Soldier’s Play” was racist, Alonzo Harris calling his partner the N-word in “Training Day” was not. Yes, a black person was using the term in both those cases, but the context of the usage does not change simply because the skin color of the people changes. However, we also know things are not quite as simple because we accept a double standard of an in-group being able to use a certain word and out-group not being given the same leeway (that’s why a couple can use pet names for each other, but a stranger can’t). However, that does not change the fact that the context of the usage was not racist.

                • conlakappa

                  I think he lost me when he referred to President Obama as “ninja.” Chris Rock also had to check him about racism not having to be as blatant as dragging by a truck, when Maher was saying Kramer wasn’t racist in his racist rant.

            • Love Heals

              I concur.

          • NonyaB?

            He’s not uniformly anti-religious. He hides under that banner while being Islamophobic, which is cited not for telling the truth about the
            religion but for making bigoted and sometimes false declarations
            while ignoring equivalent issues in the other religions including Christianity and Judaism. I’ve seen enough examples in the past of his Islamophobia, racism, misogyny, etc, hence why I stopped watching him aeons ago.

            To find a bigot ok just because you haven’t seen him attack your marginalized group is problematic in many ways, including ignoring the realities of intersected groups like Black Muslims. He’s way overdue to be off air and if this is the thing that tips that wish over into reality, then excellent.

            • Effrom Robinson

              If you looked at Bill in the 90s and early 00s, he was considerably anti-Christian. He still is considerably anti-Christian.

              • NonyaB?

                His “considerably anti-Christian” doesn’t touch his raging Islamophobia. His anti-religion stance is very uneven.

              • AlwaysPi7

                He still goes in on Christianity, he disrespects folks faith on the reg.

      • Wizznilliam

        I’m not uncomfortable with the word itself. I still use it from time to time. My main uncomfort that I mean in my comment is joking about house slaves who were also brutalized and doing what they were forced to do even though they were in the house. A white man should shut the-hell up about the situation because he knows nothing about the psychollgy of it. Especially keep your jokes about it.
        Do I also think that white people in general should avoid using niqqa? Yes! That is not a difficult request. You just said yourself that he did have EASILY just said slave. I still would have been tripping a little because if him joking about house slaves as I said… But at least I wouldn’t be having to consider him as being? a complete piece-of-shit.

  • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

    We know all about alt right racism and bigotry. Like other great people here (including the author has stated), there is massive racism among some who claim to be “progressive.” I’m not naive about Maher. For years, Maher has spewed Islamophobia (even critiquing a young Muslim kid over a clock) and racism. This is just a recent example of him spewing a racist slur on his show. If he would say a slur about Jewish people or another groups of people, he would be boycotted and possibly fired ASAP. Other groups don’t play. We shouldn’t either. Now, this time is a time of reality. There is absolutely no excuse for anybody to deny economic inequality, racism, and other injustices in the world. Maher should feel shame. Tons of whites say this language in private. Maher isn’t the only one wrong. The folks clapping are wrong too. I have noticed that Maher changed his accent in a way to mock black people when he said that word too. Maher thinks that since he claims to be on the left that he has a past. No one has a pass to spew that word period.

    • fedup

      No wyt people, that’s for sure. But I’mma say what I want.

    • pls

      Who is giving these alleged passes out anyway?
      Why the fuck is everybody OBSESSED with obtaining a pass to sit with us for a few minutes?
      Why was he able to think of a racist quip quicker than he could a funny jewish stereotype?

      • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

        Many ignorant people are supporting those who spew racial slurs in my eyes. Exposing the truth isn’t about being obsessed necessarily. He was able to issue a racist quip, because he is a racist and has the audacity to view himself as not having to experience consequences because of his heinous actions.

  • Ess Tee

    How long before Piers Morgan responds?

    • Janelle Doe

      For or against us?

      • AzucarNegra

        Against obviously

        • conlakappa

          Maybe not. He has no principles or moral compass so if he thinks railing against Maher will get him that slot on HBO…

      • Ess Tee

        Oh, always against us. Piers is of the “If white people camt say it then black people shouldn’t either” mentality.

    • AzucarNegra

      I am looking forward to him being spread out to when he comes with his foolishness.

  • theaythmonth

    Sooo…how do y’all feel about Ben Sasse’s (non) reaction? And also, the audience’s laughter?

    This might sound odd, but I kinda feel uncomfortable when watching famous black comedians performing to mostly white or all white audiences. Because you never know what they are truly laughing at.

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      Great Points.

    • “Because you never know what they are truly laughing at.”

      The court jester.

    • Ben Sasse has no idea what a house niqqa is. The audience either.

      • theaythmonth

        Hmmm you’re probably right.

      • Janelle Doe

        Can we give him a C- for his seeming discomfort?

        • He gets an F, for fuck congress.

    • Mary Burrell

      Did’nt Dave Chappelle say this when he went on hiatus “The white people were laughing too hard”?

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