This email comes courtesy of the homie Catherine. I just found this joint to be quite funny. It’s wholly possible that this Craigslist posting is a fake, but some research indicates that this very well may have been a valid post at one point. Either way, the question is: is he trippin? or is she trippin?
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Below is a posting from Craig’s List from a girl who is trying to find herself a husband, and then a guy actually responded to it…it’s too funny..!
The Original Post
What am I doing wrong?
Okay, I’m tired of beating around the bush. I’m a beautiful
(spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I’m articulate and classy.
I’m not from New York. I’m looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind
that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don’t think
I’m overreaching at all.
Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 – 250. But that’s where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won’t get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she’s not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?
Here are my questions specifically:
- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars,
restaurants, gyms
-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won’t hurt my feelings
-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I’m 25)?
- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east
side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have
nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I’ve seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What’s the story there?
- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows – lawyer, investment
banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?
- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for
MARRIAGE ONLY
Please hold your insults – I’m putting myself out there in an honest
way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I’m being up front
about it. I wouldn’t be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn’t
able to match them – in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a
nice home and hearth.
It’s NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial
interests
PostingID: 432279810
THE ANSWER
Dear Pers-431649184:
I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully
about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I’m not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your
bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here’s how I
see it.
Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a
crappy business deal. Here’s why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here’s the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity…in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won’t be getting any more beautiful!
So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!
So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy
and hold…hence the rub…marriage. It doesn’t make good business sense to ‘buy you’ (which is what you’re asking) so I’d rather lease. In case you think I’m being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It’s as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.
Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as ‘articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful’ as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500 K hasn’t found you, if not only for a tryout.
By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn’t need to have this difficult conversation.
With all that said, I must say you’re going about it the right way.
Classic ‘pump and dump.’
I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of
lease, let me know.
Good folks of VSB.com…what do you think about this post and the response? Is this young lady delusional or does she just know what she wants out of life and isn’t settling? Is homeboy full of sh*t? Or did he just son this chick?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
-VSB
LOL at this whole exchange. I sometimes let my mind wander to the things ole girl asked. Just out of curiosity…..
I think he sonned her.
“I think he sonned her.”
in this case, wouldn’t the accurate term be “daughtered”?
LOL @ daughtered
@Champ. Okay, help the GA girl out. What the hell does “son” her mean? I mean I have an idea based on context clues but can I have a defn please?
it means to basically shut someone down, physically, intellectually, or emotionally. its bascially saying “sit yo ass down”
@champ. Thanks for clarifying it.
I love it, but then again I’m a heartless misogynist!
She probably thought she was clever too…LOL…the very best type of comeuppance!
“I’m a heartless misogynist!”
another t-shirt
@killa. Welcome back. It’s crazy that you put me on and then dropped off. Thanks again for putting me on. I love coming to work now
“It’s crazy that you put me on and then dropped off. Thanks again for putting me on. I love coming to work now”
lol…you sound like young buck
@js. It’s true.
I recall this craigslist post and it’s just as funny now as it was when I read it six months ago.
On the one hand, kudos to her for the no nonsense approach to dating and best of luck to her. But in all actuality, most men don’t want to be treated like their entire self worth is in their wallet…that’s what she gets. And dammit if his response wasn’t witty as hell! LMBO
That was THE retort of all retorts. For whatever it means…chick got sonned. No doubt about it.
@wait a minute! Is this who I think this is?
6 months? I read this a year ago and even then it was old. . .
She should make professional athletes her target. She might go far.
I think this was the “nefarious”ness that was alluded to int he post about make birth control…
There is no might in that…she will go far…they’re mostly simps who fall for a pretty face errtime (shout out to my exes).
She just has to be willing to put up with the BS that comes along with it.
@Fly. She is going to eventually get “new money” with her looks. I just don’t understand why she hasn’t found a rich man yet with her looks. We all know men do fall for looks only all the time. She should start putting herself around athletes and rappers.
She should just settle for being one of those high paid call girls that New York’s governor screwed around with. At least she’ll get some cash out of the deal. lol
“She should just settle for being one of those high paid call girls that New York’s governor screwed around with. At least she’ll get some cash out of the deal. lol”
shit, maybe she already is
@Aja. She can’t be married if she is a call girl. I think she really wants to be married.
You can be married and be a call girl. I was forced to watch one of the worst Black Movies of all time (Confessions of a Call Girl … or some mess) where that happened.
*sounds like that one went straight to video..lol
ok, this is clearly a universal mail – coz it did the rounds in South Africa, where i’m from (and live) about a year ago, just substituted the suburbs and currency for South African ones… hmmmmmmmm…
“ok, this is clearly a universal mail – coz it did the rounds in South Africa, where i’m from (and live) about a year ago”
thank you, superwoman. your comment officially confirms that vsb.com has gone worldwide. i’m getting all verklempt just thinking about it
That email tickles me every time. I sent it to all my gold digging friends and let them know that not all guys go for just looks. Since I work in finance I’m around men who make serious dough (500k+) and believe it or not many of them are looking for quality women who would make great wives, mothers, socialites, and can hold down the household. From what I’ve been told, not only does the woman have to look good but she needs to be classy, have a great personality, intelligence, and take care of the social responsibilities. These men want it all and quite frankly they can have it if they are on point financially and mentally.
Only simple men marry a female who bring just looks to the table and eventually once the looks fade away that female will get replaced. A lot of Black men moving in the upper echelons of society financially and through their careers are demanding more in a partner which is forcing women to step up to the plate because Black men are hot commodities, especially successful ones. Michelle Obama is actually setting the bar pretty damn high for a lot of Black women: She’s attractive, stylish, classy, intelligent, down-to-earth, and has a fantastic career. Most importantly Michelle Obama is also great mother/wife. It takes a real special woman who can do it all and my theory is that there are going to be a good percentage of Black men looking for their own version of Michelle Obama/ Claire Huxable.
“Black men are hot commodities, especially successful ones.”
You sound like a diva dude.
It’s true, they are hot commodities. Not enough to go around. And when you factor in the diva dudes, we have a problem.
Speaking of Michele Obama, how many diva dudes are gonna raise their absurd standards even further now that we have uberclaire to look at? (Don’t get me wrong, I love the Obamas). I’d imagine that a lot of brothers’ mental list of what they want and feel they deserve is just as absurd as that woman’s email. Some sisters too.
@K. I think all successful men are commodities.
Wow K how does that make me sound like a Diva do? Sorry that I deal with reality.
“Michelle Obama is actually setting the bar pretty damn high for a lot of Black women: She’s attractive, stylish, classy, intelligent, down-to-earth, and has a fantastic career.”
yeah, michelle obama is like an uberclaire. the evolution is lovely, akin to going from the terminator to the liquid metal man in t2.
Um wow. That’s a pretty astute parallel.
dam Champ. ima start calling u John F. Killingem. must have had ur raw oysters and pomegranate juice this morning. salute!
“must have had ur raw oysters and pomegranate juice this morning.”
how did you guess?
this has nothing to do with the post, but one super vain thing i love about michelle obama is that she gets her f*cking hair done like a real Black woman would who’s in the public eye. Who doesn’t love a sharp ass dressing Black woman? Maybe she’ll share her style tips with Condeleeza…
anyway, carry on…
I hope she does. I am always so upset with Conde’s hair. It looks like she rolls it with a paper bag. That’s what I used to do when I was 10.
“Michelle Obama is actually setting the bar pretty damn high for a lot of Black women: She’s attractive, stylish, classy, intelligent, down-to-earth, and has a fantastic career. Most importantly Michelle Obama is also great mother/wife. It takes a real special woman who can do it all and my theory is that there are going to be a good percentage of Black men looking for their own version of Michelle Obama/ Claire Huxable.”
80% of the women that I know are a Michelle Obama if you don’t factor in her the physical. I don’t know many women who are in such great shape after two kids.
Hell, many aren’t in such great shape before kids.
(Myself included …… LOL.)
Well if they are missing the physical then they are no Michelle Obama LOL.
Sorry ladies but some of us needs to get up on our fitness game. I started becoming a gym rat this year because I got tired of broads twice my age looking better than me.
Well if they are missing the physical then they are no Michelle Obama LOL.
True. LOL.
I should have been clearer. Many women have Michelle’s qualities. However, some of them are lacking in the physical department.
The past few years I’ve been keeping it very real with myself. If I desire a man who is point mentally,financially, physically, intellectually,and spirtually, I need to step up my game because it’s rare to find a man who hits all those markers. Besides if a man has all those points covered, there are going to be TONS of women after him. So why would he pick me if I bring a lot to the table except the physical when he can have someone who isn’t lacking? I can’t stand it when female sit around and complain about how they shoudn’t have to step up their game physically because they have successful in their career and intelligent. I think White feminism has warped the minds of women everywhere.
Then again I think women should want to be fabulous for themselves not to grab a guy. The man is just the added bonus (if that’s what you want)
@ Muse. “Then again I think women should want to be fabulous for themselves not to grab a guy. The man is just the added bonus (if that’s what you want)”
I totally agree. Keeping your body in tact is as important as attaining and retaining knowledge.
well, you have to commend the young woman on trying to find what she is looking for in life! i think she had some validity behind her questions! she spoke honestly and openly in regards to what she is looking for and what she has to offer and seems to be sincerely distraught about being passed over time and time again! plus, it seems to me that she understands that her extremely beautiful appearance will fade in time and so she is trying to lock her man down now while she still can! she is a gold-digger in every sense of the word, but at least she is honest about her pursuits!
i thoroughly enjoyed the man’s response to her questions about why she hasn’t found what she is looking for because it is the truth, plain and simple! his point is valid on so many levels! if all she is offering is the simple trophy wife/arm candy, then why the hell would anyone want you? they have what is called escorts to assist them whenever they need to make public appearances which would be a lot cheaper in the long run! why give up half in a divorce when you can spend a fraction of the amount and send her on her merry little way when she has completed her task?
but no matter what level the playing field you are on, a marriage is nothing but a business merger! i’m trying to raise my stock and my wealth by going into a relationship with someone who can bring something of equal value or more to the table! and when i say wealth, i’m not just talking about the financial and economical aspects of it, but the health benefits, the loving and the supportive aspects of it as well! yes, love is an asset and not a liability! and when i choose a woman to settle down with, she will also be an asset and not a liability! people live longer when they are in committed relationships (or so the studies have shown), and no matter how they actually act with one another, couples are much happier than single people!! i’m not saying that single people aren’t happy, but having to take on the world by yourself without the consistent love and support from another takes its toll and wears a person down, turning them into a cynical, angry old fart!!
but again, kudos to her for trying to find her piggy bank to have and to hold until death do they part, because i know the pre-nuptial agreement will dictate the she will get pennies on the dollar if they divorce! and bravo to him for telling it like it is!!! now let me go find my rich, widowed investor who wants to assist me in reaching my goals and financing my lifestyle!! good night!!
“now let me go find my rich, widowed investor who wants to assist me in reaching my goals and financing my lifestyle!! good night!!”
lol, you shouldn’t be saying “good night” because we all know that cougars don’t sleep, and if you’re trying to bag one, you need to keep thos late hours too
lol @ the champ
i outlast the cougars every night of the week!! i’m just trying to make it up for the midmorning brunch that they are so found of!!
@ Don. “people live longer when they are in committed relationships (or so the studies have shown), and no matter how they actually act with one another, couples are much happier than single people!! i’m not saying that single people aren’t happy, but having to take on the world by yourself without the consistent love and support from another takes its toll and wears a person down, turning them into a cynical, angry old fart!! ”
I agree that having someone to share the tolls of life with is what contributes to ones happiness.
@ Elenda…
“couples are much happier than single people!!”
ok…I think this should read HAPPY couples are happier than single people…”
I would rather be single (with/without options) than committed to someone that doesn’t feed my happiness and vive versa…more times than not, we (women) get so wrapped up in what we think we are supposed to want, ie a man, kids, etc…that we end up in some SHULLBIT…ya dig?
So while I agree, it’s more challenging to take on the world without a “mate”, it’s even harder to conquer the world tied down to something that adds weight to your flight! gas costs too much for that!
@goodness. Yeah, that is common sense. If you are with someone just to BE with someone, that hardly counts.
actually, i was recently discussing a study with someone that showed that neither is true…actually single people with alot of friends are happier and outlive couples and single loners. as it turns out relationships (esp. unhealthy ones) actually interfere with ‘happiness’ and longevity.
@Miss Patterson. If you are dating your bestfriend (which you should) then you don’t need a lot of friends to make you happy. Just your man.
@Elenda…I have to disagree with this. What does dating your best friend have to do with having additional friends? Unless you are looking for friends to fill a void, I can’t understand what’s wrong with having other quality relationships.
I am hoping you were being sarcastic (in which case, I withdraw this statement.)
@Queen. I was being sarcastic playing with Miss Pattersons comment about friends bringing happiness versus not being single. I agree with you, one needs more than one relationship to have happiness.
@ Elenda…I must be having a slow day. Sorry.
the key words to the couples thing was that they were in a loving and supportive relationship, one which was an asset and not a liability!! there are things that a spouse or partner can do for you that friends can’t….and i’m not just talking the sexual aspect of relationships…
@Don. Thanks for clarifying that because my mind went straight to the gutter.
“and no matter how they actually act with one another, couples are much happier than single people!!”
as goodeness pointed out, this only applies to happy marriages … and more to men within those marriages.
the “happiness” gap between married women and single women overall is a lot smaller. ditto the life expectancy gap.
and one study found that for black women, marriage has a negative impact on health.
and almost all studies of singles-vs-marrieds have a flaw: they don’t look at never-married people separately from divorced and widowed.
but then i’m both anti-marriage and marriage-phobic.
She definitely got sonned and homeboy’s response is very much so on point. There are so many other aspects to a relationship (especially a MARRIAGE) that’s part of the equation – not just looks and a salary. I can’t commend her for “knowing what she wants” because she really comes off as a superficial, gold digger with very little to bring to the table. The tone of her post shows a lack of substance in her character and implies that successful men are very shallow and only want someone for their looks. As the guy stated, that’s where the “pump and dump” scenario comes into play.
Nothing’s wrong with wanting to upgrade your lifestyle, but you have to be willing to do it for yourself first by bringing more to the table than just booty – oops, I meant ‘beauty’.
No need for me to even type a post you covered everything I was going to say.
Redundancy Sucks
Actually, he’s saying that she’s exhibiting the “pump and dump”. It’s a financial markets term that means a seller basically inflates the value of their stock through promotion and/or any means in order to make it look more attractive and then they unload it on somebody who will essentially be stuck with some worthless stock that has no value.
Basically, she’s selling herself well with nothing to offer.
@ Monk. So true. She lacks substance in every aspect of her writing. She didn’t mention anything she can bring to a man and when she said she could match them, she did not mention her worth.
“I can’t commend her for “knowing what she wants” because she really comes off as a superficial, gold digger with very little to bring to the table.”
I completely agree, what is the difference between her and a prostitute? Not much.
“What’s the difference between her and a prostitute” HAHAHAHA…funny as hell.
See, prostitutes expect to be treated as such and she on the other hand, is expecting to be treated like a wife for the same services.
It doesn’t relate here, but I always liked the song “Treat ‘Em Like a Prostitute”
no that’s right. it does relate here.
“Treat ‘Em Like a Prostitute”
is this the club version to the old temptations song: “Treat Her Like A Lady”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPUsQDm-HQY
nope, no relation to the temptations…i had to google it…i’m learning new things every day on this site: first the stripper in me & now slick rick: (i kid, i kid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzWuFUxGEP8
Miss P you just KILLED my starbucks high. I was just about to cue this little temptation tune and PRETEND it was a nod to this nice little throwback.
concur.
Funny email. To me its a little ironic and ABSURD that a letter like this with a reponse is found on CRAIGSLIST. Craigslist isn’t exactly where you go to meet and question millionaires. But I guess it IS a place for buyers and sellers looking for extreme bargains to say the least. lol
In theory the investment banker guy DID carry (dc slang) her right back to the boggie down bronx on the bus and with a bit of a reality check. However, let’s be honest when’s the last time OLD white money was looking for an ambitious money making wife. Let’s keep it really real. On the flip slide, he did on some levels suggest she started her “qwest” a little later than she should have. And to her defense she is writing what many women THINK but don’t have the ovaries to write, which is why I hope this is a farce.
I think she’s honestly traveling in the wrong circles. And that is the bigger question because old money thinks way differently than new. She essentally has old money concepts (marry rich, “I’m pretty”, “I went to Princeton to find a husband”) applied to a new money approach. New money can have many points of entrance. Old money has ONLY one way (birth). And old and new never really “hang” together.
With “new money” pretty isn’t enough. You gotta have a bootstrap story (j/k..ok no I’m not) LOL. You gotta on some level know how to hustle (intellectually and or financially).
i’m sorry i can’t get over this being on craigslist.
“On the flip slide, he did on some levels suggest she started her “qwest” a little later than she should have.”
That is true, but the end result is still the same. At some point her looks – her main asset basically – will inevitably go the way of the condor and then dude is left holding the financial bag with a woman who’s started out as the beauty and ended up as the beast.
Then again, The Champ brings up a good point…she’s claiming she’s beautiful. Doesn’t necessarily mean anybody else does.
I know lots of folks with misguided self-perception.
@Panama. One cannot claim they are beautiful to everyone because some people think beauty icons like Halle Berry aint all that (not me of course. I think she is gorgeous). js. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I agree! Beauty is different to everyone. I had a chance to travel to Europe and Asia through my school’s study abroad programs and it’s amazing how different cultures view beauty differently. There is not one standard of beauty although some women are universally beautiful like Beyonce (who’s loved in China by the way). I just read that Italian Vogue’s July Issue will exclusively feature black models in an effort to showcase the beauty of black women that has largely been ignored by the fashion industry. This is a great step because black women are very beautiful yet often ignored by the media.
Comeback says: ” And to her defense she is writing what many women THINK but don’t have the ovaries to write, which is why I hope this is a farce.”
Q: exactly what is it that many women THINK but dont have the ovaries to write. (she wrote a lot)
@gk. I don’t know many women who will write “I am looking for a man with lots of money to take care of me” and post it anywhere. I think several women do want just that, but would never put it out there.
just wanted to be sure and it’s just as i expected. so sad in a way, but so true. i gotta meditate before i tell yall how i really feel about this. i appreciate the honesty. coming from a man many women would have probably attacked this line of thought as a false/ stereotype of women however coming from a woman it has much more cred.
@ Comeback girl. I totally agree with you. There is a huge difference between new money and old money. In my opinion she should be searching for new money.
“In theory the investment banker guy DID carry (dc slang) her right back to the boggie down bronx on the bus and with a bit of a reality check. ”
Checkpoint:
1) She’s not even from NY. She’s probably some outlier who was proclaimed the prettiest girl in [Insert "small unheard of remote village" here] who thought she’d come to the big city and cash in on her looks.
2) It’s the “Boogie Down Bronx”
Do not disrespect my birthplace again!*
BX stand up!
* I would “LOL” but I’m serious…
It’s the “Boogie Down Bronx”
I’m sorry I bow down to KRS ONE and nem.
“1) She’s not even from NY. She’s probably some outlier who was proclaimed the prettiest girl in [Insert "small unheard of remote village" here] who thought she’d come to the big city and cash in on her looks.”
***petra international ministries***
Actually a lot of “Old Money” is starting to disappear since folks with New Money are taking over. Believe it or not Old money families are starting to date outside of their small incestuous circle. However if you are a person of color it is extremely difficult to penetrate Waspy old money. I also think Blacks/African who calls themselves Old money is utterly ridiculous and an oxymoron since real Old money folks can trace their wealth back to European royalty. Screw it; most Americans who are wealthy are considered New Money unless their families have been here since 1600′s
“I also think Blacks/African who calls themselves Old money is utterly ridiculous and an oxymoron since real Old money folks can trace their wealth back to European royalty.”
totally agree no wait….**United House of Prayer a la Daddy Grace with the long fingernails circa 1955**!!
This is another post. Totally agree I would never ever use Old Money in the context of Black folks. Unless “old” is like Greenwood OK. 1908 Black Wall Street.
So yeah when people talk about Old Black Money…that is laughable.
BUT what black folks do consider “old” is pretty closed too. I guess its like “well since the duponts won’t let me in…I won’t let Tyrone with his internet company in either.”
@Muse. Good point but then again if one if of color the date of old money changes. Someone that got wealth in the 60s (of color) is considered old money versus somone who came up in the 90s.
As a man I really try to treat women properly, take them out dinner, hold doors, pull out chair, etc. But a chick like this as the responder said would get the “pump and dump” treatment. I mean if a man wants a woman for just looks, why not have a different freak every night. It makes no sense to limit yourself if that is your outlook.
“I mean if a man wants a woman for just looks, why not have a different freak every night. It makes no sense to limit yourself if that is your outlook.”
well lets not pretend it doesn’t happen..two words Donald Trump. Again home skillet isn’t working all the NYC circuits. If she looks as good as she suggests her husband could be just one charity silent auction away.
No doubt that it happens, but my point is that there is little point for a man to be with this woman for just her looks. Its not enough to keep any man or woman.
I think she should work Hunt Point, but what do I know.
true…I think she’s a little lazy too. Being opportunistic is a JOB. I say she gives herself a “socialite” title, take out some “upgrade loans” and hit all the NY metro money spots…i hope her azz is in the hamptons as i type this.
I think I agree with you. She’s trying to go to places so that these fellows can find her. She’s being a lazy ho.
And ain’t nothing worse than lazy hos.
They don’t bring your money back right.
“one time i told this bitch, dont comeback till she bring me $2,000.00 in two dollar bills.” Snoop Dogg
she’s looking for a rest haven for ho’s.
don’t get me started on this pimp shit P.
“And ain’t nothing worse than lazy hos. ”
i’m thinking today’s gonna be a great t-shirt day
@Panama. You get what you pay for. If you go to Applebees, you get a applebees dude; if you go to Chops Lobster House, you get a Chops Lobster House man. She has got to follow the money if she wants to meet mister money bags.
Perhaps the young lady is delusional and believes her own hype. This wouldn’t be the first time that has happened. If she was really hot shit, I’m sure some man wealthy would have at least made her a mistress by now.
@Tallgent. Beauty gets old quick.
To wit:
Show me a beautiful woman and I’ll show you a man who’s tired of smurfing her.
AMEN!!!!
@ Tallgent, I must say you have always treated me like a lady THANKS! and I wasnt even sleeping with you.
you know, part of me still thinks that the posting is a hoax, but even if it is, it brings up two fundamental questions: what do you bring to the table, and is what you bring to the table somewhat congruent to what you expect your mate to bring to the table?
i know that theres alot of women (and men) out here who are actually taking shit OFF the table, and expect their mate to come equipped with knives, forks, spoons, plates, and a 4 course meal.
another peripheral question raised is how attractive are you, really? not, how attractive do you think you are, or how attractive to you hope you project yourself to be, but actually how attractive are you to the opposite sex. its not about what you think you bring to the table as much as does what you bring to the table actually matter? shit, i mean nobody gives a damn about your knives and forks when the main course is burgers and fries.
Ummm Champ..did you eat breakfast this morning???
Did somebody forget to add the welchers grape jelly to the lightly buttered biscuit.
Sounds like a really personal question?? of which I need some espresso. be back in a few.
“What Do YOU Bring To Table?”
Still no takers on the question I see????
And I’m still pondering LOL
It’s completely subjective. When I think of an answer to this question, it seems as though one would give the obligatory good job, good looks, intelligence, sanity, sense of humor, etc.
Several people possess these things, or at least their own version of them. The hard part comes in when we have to decide exactly what type of package we desire this person to come in due to our own individual tastes, wants, and needs.
For example, someone gave the example of Michelle Obama and listed her attributes. To many, she may exemplify the perfect woman. But to many others, she may be too this or too that or not enough of this or that (tall, short, fat, skinny, shy, outgoing, demure, adventurous, opportunistic, whatever you like or don’t like), so they may choose a different package. Someone who may look very similar to her, but have a completely different personality. Or someone whose personality is very similar or looks completely different.
And of course attractiveness is subjective the same way. Unless you’re universally attractive (ridiculously gorgeous).
“Unless you’re universally attractive (ridiculously gorgeous)”…
would that be what someone mentioned below as “white or mixed looking”..j/k. I got three shots in my drink this morning so I am a little rev’d up shall we say.
Champ makes some good points though. I never really thought about it outside of money, funny, not too bad on the eyes (all is however completely subjective and relative).
I think the question goes a little deeper though. Am I what I am looking for? Is everything I bring all that damn great in the scheme of things and are they prioritized in the order I would personally accept from another.
People threw the word “self-reflective” around yesterday. Thats not on most people’s short (or long list).
I recently realized that though I am a competitive person day to day, someone in the blogsphere recently underscored how that is NOT what I am looking for in a mate or even a friend.
guess what I am trying to say is …is the short or long list really all that appealing, even to me and on the outside looking in???
“would that be what someone mentioned below as “white or mixed looking”..j/k. I got three shots in my drink this morning so I am a little rev’d up shall we say.”
look at you race-baiting. you make me proud.
Comeback says: “People threw the word “self-reflective” around yesterday. Thats not on most people’s short (or long list).”
in perspective…
i think the people that were throwing “self reflective” around yesterday were speaking to the benefits, healing and self therapy that CAN be gained from “self reflection” in that sense, some of those benefits may be on our list.
Ya know, I don’t actually find Michelle Obama all that appealing…in any way. Yeah she’s Obama’s wife and she pounded him up and she’s clearly ride or die…but um…
I find it hard to be that enthralled with her like many people seem to be…maybe I’m missing something.
Exactly. As good as she looks on paper, you (and many others) find her un appealing.
It’s probably a visual thing. Perhaps if she looked like Lauren London, she’d be considered the perfect woman. Then again, to some, maybe not. But she is really smart, sophisticated, educated, good job, etc. She brings a lot to the proverbial table.
Perhaps if she were mixed looking. The brothas LOVE that.
“Perhaps if she were mixed looking. The brothas LOVE that.”
sister t, sandra rose just called, and she’d like her spiel back.
Panny I think it’s more of what she represents. She’s smart, educated, successful and supportive. And she takes care of home…ALL men what some fraction of that in their mate. He happen to find it all in one.
Now I’m sure there’s a backstory and they have problems just like everyone else…but it’s the appearance of perfection that everyone is in love with.
How many people do you know who even APPEAR to be a perfect mate…not many.
“Panny I think it’s more of what she represents”
i think thats what it is.
and, lets be honest, her being a “average black chick” (and by “average” i mean, brown-skinned, gets perms, is somewhat bowlegged, etc, etc) gives obama lots of cred in the black community that a lauren london/halle berry clone wouldn’t afford him.
i’m not saying this is right…but its true.
She represents well for the average Black woman huh? She’s on the national stage and giving average chicks the audacity of hope that they too can be somebody!
That should be part of her campaigning:
Average Chicks for Obama!
She’s not hardly average, not even physically! But she is along the lines of what we foolhardly call a ‘real sister’. I’m not gonna lie, even though I am a ‘light-and-curly’ sister myself, I feel better seeing Barack with his brown-skinned beauty than I would were he with a woman who was equally pretty, but had say, light skin, curly hair and green eyes. No matter how long her resume was, it’d kinda feel like “Of course she snagged a Barack, she’s the standard successful Black man wife”.
Negronia is a dangerous place. And Michele is pretty, she just needs a better hairstyle.
Michelle Obama is not the cutest chick on strivers row but she got a nice all around package. (something around the mouth thats vexes me) people are exaggerating her beauty because she personifies the hopes dreams and aspirations of the average black girl. (not mixed half white looking etc.) …and to that, i salute.
Michelle Obama is a beautiful woman and a lot of it radiates from her personality. She may not be a “Halle Berry” type of beauty, but she represents the real woman. I really admire both her and Barack. Michelle is also a lot better looking than past the wives of Presidents/Presidential Candidates, except for maybe Jacqueline Kennedy.
Michelle Obama is a BEAUTIFUL BLACK woman PERIOD AMEN. Just as Halle Barry, Kerry Washington, Salle Richardson, Kenya Moore, Vanessa Williams, etc etc..
no sidebars, no exceptions ..why can’t black beauty be black beauty.
“Michelle is also a lot better looking than past the wives of Presidents/Presidential Candidates, except for maybe Jacqueline Kennedy.”
i beg to differ. i don’t know about the rest of you all, but i always thought barbara bush was freakin bangin
@ Champ~and why aren’t you in the corner again?
@Comeback girl. Give me a second. I have been asked this question before on a myspace blog and I am going to copy and paste my response.
Preach. If you got 10 kids by 5 different women, no money, no ambition and you’re fat and lazy, why are you thinking a dyme-ass chick would give you serious consideration? And vice-versa for the women; in fact I often find women to be guilty of this more often and I blame a lot of it on the way we were socialized. Unfortunately, too many women think all they need is a vagina and too many men think all they need is a (full) wallet, and the rest will work itself out. Not in the long run and not with the type of people you actually probably want a LTR with.
Amen…or shall I say “Pope Benedict XVI”!!!!!
“Unfortunately, too many women think all they need is a vagina..”
and a myspace page.
@For real. I totally agree. Equally Yoked people. Remember that!
I also wrote about the whole concept of being equally yoked before. I stay winning.
physically, we could never quantify our own attractiveness realistically, I mean the last four digits of my cell # spell out SEXY, but there are some that may not agree with that assessment…ya dig?
meta-physically, we could rattle off our resumes all day, but the perception of assets versus liabilities is subjective…the fact that most of on this blog actually read books could be a bad thing to some knuckle draggers…(shrugging)
but I love the premise of the question…because it allows for genuine self evaluation, no matter skewed it may be, even in its most genuine form…
@Champ. This is my response to another blog “Would you date you” but I think this is the answer you are looking for as well.
Hands down, I would date the sh!t out of myself. Let see… I am 28 with no kids or diseases, mid ways into my career, still educating myself daily, attractive, fairly independent (I have the means to be completely independent but I share my home with my man) and the list goes on. Hmmmmm, I also have a bachelors degree, an automobile, and a pre-approved home loan approval SOOOOOOOOOO YES, I would date me.
People should not “date up” people should live by the same standards they set. If a man once a chick with a tight body, his body should be tight. If a woman wants a man to provide for her, she should be able to provide for herself on that same standard.
Hold up VSB. I am the only one that took the bait?!?!?! We all were quick to throw out our bra sizes (left and right) the other day but nobody wants to answer the question: what you can bring to the table?
(SMH in disgust).
This is why women are reduced to their breast and booty daily.
naw…but this isn’t something i can post in a blog. i’m too d@mn longwinded and this is a multi-point question. i will say this…attractiveness is hard to measure by universal standards. i know what turns ME on but my definition of sexy/attractive is not universal- although it should be because i’m better at defining these things (lol). as far as being able to rate my own attractiveness, i’m scrrate. but i can’t rate it according to how the opposite sex perceives me…i’ll leave that up to those silly quizzes on facebook.
Champ you pose a very good question. Many people who complain about not being able to find a quality mate often times have flaws they refuse to acknowledge. My belief is that quality people attract other quality people. If you are a psychopath, needy, lazy, unmotivated, fat, etc why would someone who has a lot going for themselves want you? This concept doesn’t apply to just women but men as well. I hear men complain about not being able to find quality mates yet they don’t analyze where they are meeting these chicken heads or their own superficial qualifications for dating a woman. A big booty and a pretty face don’t mean that woman will take care of your ass when you are sick or help build a great life. Most quality women don’t hang out at stripper clubs or patron suspect venues to find a good man.
On a personal note, I know my value and I’m pretty confident that I can get a quality guy. Ironically I don’t look like a video, whoever I know that what I’m lacking physically I make up with in personality, intelligence, and a strong spirituality. Besides physical beauty is subjective and based on the cultural norms an individual adheres to. I can’t change how god made my face LOL but I can work on looking polished, wearing cloths that fits my body, and keeping this temple called my body in shape. Most importantly I know how important is it is show respect to other people but also have the confidence to express my own views.
@Muse. I admire you for keeping it real and acutally doing what we call self-reflection.
that goes to the heart of compatibility though: finding someone who can put up with your particular brand of crazy while not getting on your em-effing nerves.
STRAIGHT COMEDY!
I loved his response. He so eloquantly told her she wasn’t worth -ish but a good f*ck until her looks started to fade. I loved the analogy he gave her about when his money fades…so will she…so when her looks fade…so should he! HILARIOUSNESS! Loved it!
“I loved the analogy he gave her about when his money fades…so will she…so when her looks fade…so should he”
**churches chicken**
He also mentioned a good point that once his money is gone so is she.
“He also mentioned a good point that once his money is gone so is she.”
***branch davidians!!!***
He sonned the chick.
Love it mayne!
***see reply to liz’s comment**
LMAO! I needed a good laugh today. I’m from New York and the dating scene can be tough since women outnumber men. It seems like the only thing that she’s bringing to the table is her looks and there are lot of beautiful women in the city. She didn’t say anything else about herself and from the e-mail, so I can’t really comment on anything else. At least she’s being honest, so the men know what they’re getting. The guy’s response was funny though and honestly that’s how a lot of men feel.
“I’m from New York and the dating scene can be tough since women outnumber men”
eh…i’m not a fan of this stat because its extremely misleading. according to the 2006 census, the population of new york state was 51.5 percent female and 48.5 percent male, but, when you only account for people under 50, the numbers change to 50.2 to 49.8.
point being, technically, women do outnumber men, but not by enough of a margin for it to actually really matter.
You got the stat quick lol. That’s the total population for the state, but if you take the stats for single women for single men just in NYC, there’s a gap believe me:) The situation is different upstate (where I grew up) where the men really outnumber the women. I would go to social events and it seemed like there were 8 men for each woman. It’s easy to find a man there and they’re pressed to settle down.
52.6%-47.4%
those are the female and male population percentages in new york city. again, yeah theres a difference, but not the huge one that people make it out to be
i guess my point in showing these stats is the fact that our perception many times is completely different than the actual reality, which actually ties into the latent theme of this entry.
That stat is for people of all races. In Negronia*, where I reside, there are way more datable women than men.
(*It’s not a physical place, it’s a state of mind)
(*It’s not a physical place, it’s a state of mind)
…….
I wonder if Negronia is near Stankonia?
LOL @ Negronia
I agree. The stats are different for those who have Negronian interests.
PJ- Stankonia is in the South of Negronia.
I love when people state statistics like this. I’m like, BUT HOW MANY OF EM IS BLACK?
judging by those stats, you can probably assume that in the black community it’s probably something like 54-46. a difference, yeah, but again, not a huge disparity
the key word in this case is “datable”, and this term is completely subjective. just as there are women complaining about a shortage of men, many men express the same concerns, that there arent enough datable women. “bonable”, yeah, but not date or wifeable.
sorry to get all ivory tower-ish and shit, but its a pet peeve of mine when people cite lazy (and wrong) statistics
“believing and internalizing that theres this pandemic black man-shortage creates “diva dudes” and gives many women the subconscious justification to accept being benchwarmers, just as long as they’re on somebody’s team.”
***Jesuit Monestary on a 30 day fast**!!!
I think all us women need to tatoo this too our eye balls.
YES!!!!!! thinking makes it so. How come nobody really understands this. Its already starting to be proven on a molecular level in the body, so why can’t we get this from a world view perspective.
Its nothing but hype and it perpetuates VERY VERY VERY BAD behavior and the very acceptance of the said behavoir that women want to avoid: “ok, so he’s my man and he hasn’t called for 9 days–its ok cause there’s a MAN shortage”.
bad news all the way around.
Well, it’s a personal pet peeve of mine when Black men use the “y’all aint all wifey material” excuse to try and refute the existance of the notorious man shortage. While datable is subjective, lets keep it real in this piece. You and I both know that our corners are overwrought with “undatable men” and that our classrooms have a disturbing lack of Black men. With the exception of Morehouse, name a Black school where the women don’t grossly outnumber the men. Howard had one of the highest concentrations of Black men at one point- 3:2, women to men, of course. But last I heard, FAMU was 7:1.
The fact that there is a man shortage does not negate the validity of your existance as a “good Black man”.
“You and I both know that our corners are overwrought with “undatable men” and that our classrooms have a disturbing lack of Black men.”
again though, it comes back to what you define as “undatable”, and you can’t forget that men and women have completely different definitions of what makes someone datable. the people who usually say that there are tons of datable women available are usually other women or gay men, neither of whom opinions matter in this regard
now, i will admit that many of us (black men) need to step our games up, but the numbers aren’t as skewered as many people would lead you to believe. sans college campuses and some especially war-torn areas, theres no where on earth where women outnumber men 3 or 4 to 1, especially not in america.
believing and internalizing that theres this pandemic black man-shortage creates “diva dudes” and gives many women the subconscious justification to accept being benchwarmers, just as long as they’re on somebody’s team.
Undatable for most of the women I know would include: the incarcerated, the multiple baby mamma/bad dad situations, the ones who didn’t attend college nor secure a reasonable career path, the ones who are downright rude and disrespectful.
Undateable for Black men my age who went to college- the too skinny, the too heavy (meaning 15 pounds overweight and up, not simply the obese), the not big-breatsed, the flat assed, the not light enough, the not perfect.
That’s just me being silly, but I think that even some of the “Good” Black men, who are short of being Diva Dudes, have silly, unreasonable standards. I’m sure my refusal to date men shorter than me could be bent to make me look like a hypocrite, but so what. You can’t climb me, I am not a tree.
And while agree that the shortage has made for more Diva Dudes, we can’t pretend it doesn’t exist. We still have to hold our men up to some standards and we can’t let them think that because they defied statsitcs and stereotypes that they are Gods.
“Undateable for Black men my age who went to college- the too skinny, the too heavy (meaning 15 pounds overweight and up, not simply the obese), the not big-breatsed, the flat assed, the not light enough, the not perfect. ”
I honestly wonder how much of this is perpetuated and there by MANIFESTED by “the black male urban” myth.
I hardly think myself as perfect by your above standards. But your above description has never been apart of my reality.
I honestly believe that when you “SEE” something different. Something DIFFERENT actually shows up.
its alittle airy fairy…and hardly soup discussion…but it works for me.
“I think that even some of the “Good” Black men, who are short of being Diva Dudes, have silly, unreasonable standards. I’m sure my refusal to date men shorter than me could be bent to make me look like a hypocrite, but so what. ”
………..
@ Sister. When I attended FAMU 97-2001, there was not a huge male shortage. Maybe the men didn’t graduate but attendence was a different story. It was more like 4 to 1 in my opinion. I don’t have a book to back me up though.
“molecular level”
correction: cellular level.
unfortunately i think it’s how a lot of women feel.
@GK. I never fell for the black men shortage theory. I have never had a problem finding a man. Weather he met my standards are not. They are ALL around me. I see available black men all day long. But then again, I do live in ATLANTA so maybe that’s why I can’t relate.
there’s a whole world of difference between “available” and “desirable.”
the man shortage has everything to do with “desirable.”
Yeah I don’t know nothing about nothing…but er a I know he SONNED her, son! Whether this is real or a hoax little truths were sprinkled throughout. Thanks for the laugh!
“but er a I know he SONNED her, son!”
did you have a seizure while writing this comment?
“daughtered”
I gotcha.
10-4 over and out.
Yes Champ, I’m foaming and swallowing my tongue as we speak.
He definitely sonned her, LOL! He sounds equally shallow though. Why is one brand of superficiality (focusing on looks) better than another (focusing on $$$)? Truth be told, if she’s really THAT attractive (and white or “mixed” looking), she’ll get her guy.
I think that if a guy met her though, she wouldn’t necessarily come off as a goldigger b/c she obviously wouldn’t say these things to a potential mate.
She doesn’t really seem to be that different from most women in that she’s looking for a man who can provide. It’s just that she’s looking for a man who can provide a WHOLE damn lot. And I’m not mad at her, either.
“Truth be told, if she’s really THAT attractive (and white or “mixed” looking), she’ll get her guy.”
k-double, i know what you mean, but just to be the devils advocate, i’m gonna ask you to expound
The uber universally attractive white/”mixed” chick is just another trapping of the made man’s success – much like super-expensive car he drives. Those guys just don’t go for the “average” chick.
dude that spondoo’d her ass isn’t superficial…well he might be, but not in this context…he had to speak to her in terms she could relat to in order to get his point across…it’s like the condescending way people put their hands on their kness, buck their eyes, nod their heads and smile/talk to toddlers…
COMMUNICATION IS KEY…
I can see your point. But, he didn’t say looks didn’t matter, nor did he say she had to bring more than looks to the table.
“Let me explain, you’re 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!”
This sounds rather superficial to me.
In general though, it’s more acceptable for men to say they want a “dime” and to focus on womens’ looks than it is for a woman to say she want’s a man who’s paid. Why? What’s the diff?
Agreed! While, perhaps he used her own shallowness to screw her and isn’t, in fact, shallow himself..there are a whole lot of men out there who “only date dimes”, even if they look like shit.
K says: “He sounds equally shallow though.”
i’d put money on it that she is shallow but him being shallow is just a toss up. he didn’t take out the ad, she did. he just caught that trick playing out of position and benched her. coochie and/or looks does not equal entitlement but i can see how some women can have a false sense of entitlement because culture has commoditized coochie and men play the game as if thats ok. at the end of the day women use coochie as their “hold card.” if she can’t get something she wants any other way from say hubby r boyfriend, she may attempt to hold the coochie hostage or use it as bait and negotiate for what she wants. i call that torturous and treasonous. unfortunately it works with a lot of men because they are fools behind coochie. i don’t negotiate with terrorists. pimp pimp hooray!
Looks don’t equal entitlement. But neither does money…
@Gk. “Pimp Pimp Hooray” LMFAO.
“Truth be told, if she’s really THAT attractive (and white or “mixed” looking), she’ll get her guy.”
this deserves a post in and of itself.
Yes it is a post in and of itself. I actually wrote a post LONG LONG ago on my other site about the assigning of “light skinned points”
I might need to go find it.
@Panama. Please find it. I would love to read that.
“light skinned points” … ROFL …
i so hate when i know a dude is awarding me light skinned points. … although i’m sure some are also subtracting points for being happy nappy.
She knows what she wants. I’m not mad at her. She knows that looks is what attracts most men who can afford a value meal. They say they want someone smart and all but at the end of the day, they also want you to be pretty and shut up most times. She needs to use the looks she says she has to get where she wants to be. BUT, I suspect that she might be a 10 only in a sea of men who are 6′s. Otherwise, as the responder said, a $500K would have found her. I also bet, even if she found out where all the money men hang out, she’s the kind of chick who has desperation in her eyes. That said, I’m still not mad at her for having goals. LOL
He did son her but I would bet three extra value meals that he ends up marrying some depreciating chick anyway. Some pretty chick will come along, appear too dumb to be gaming him and do just THAT. He will divorce her and upgrade to a younger version because, uh, certain types of people don’t age well. The minute first wife’s skin starts looking like raw chicken skin (26), he will cheat, divorce, and upgrade.
I think the main point here is that ALL women are depreciating in value.
*ducking from tomatoes*
That’s a joke by the way. Some of you boho’s don’t have the same impeccably distasteful sense of humor that I possess so I figured I should clear that up before somebody says something about my momma and then I got to say something about their momma and then we add grandmas and great aunties into the mix.
Family-tree fighting must stop!
BAFTF – Brothas Against Family Tree Fighting
Did you come back two minutes later to clean up a joke that no one found offense to yet? Preemptive defense, eh? I hate bohos with no sense of humor, and bohos who don’t drink. Don’t take yourselves so seriously, my brothers and sisssssstassss. As a certified bohemian since birth-ish (I am surrounded by candles and mudcloth as we speak, oommmmmmm), it’s okay to laugh and to do hoodrat stuff with your friends.
Yeah, after somebody found a few of my facetious statements unfunny, I figure that JUST IN CASE some folks don’t find humor to be funny, I’d just fix it early. I won’t be doing it often. Generally, I couldn’t care less about who takes offense to stuff…but my mother’s a woman and mother’s day was last month so I fixed it.
man! if they don’t like it…they can CTRL>ALT>DELETE! don’t change a thing baby! if they don’t get the humor…they can suck it easy…don’t go changing that P-JACK ish I have grown to not quite “love” but “like real hard”!!
@ P-Nimmy~in general I think you should have all respondents of VSB sign a waiver stipulating that they will get the sarcasm, facetious, and off color humor as just that HUMOR or else keep it moving
“Some of you boho’s don’t have the same impeccably distasteful sense of humor”
you are killing us LADIES with all these cute little nicknames…boho….
what exactly is a damn boho???
Well, generally “boho” is shorthand for bohemian…as pointed out by Sister Toldja…
I on other the hand just use it to refer to any and everything. I just called a frog a boho on the way into work this morning.
The fact that I didn’t actually SEE a frog is completely irrelevant.
You can’t be using my titular word to describe frogs and shit! Stop that, or else I will be forced to call this delicious tuna sandwich a “mullatto”.
Fun Fact- one of my girls in high school called me “The Boho Ho” because my boobs were always out. I was not, in fact, a ho.
that was funny as hell to me! (until you cleaned it up)
the P(dot)J(dot) I e-know and e-love wouldn’t have back pedalled on that son!
step away from the light Carol Ann!
Yeah I know…
*hanging head in shame*
Having a heart at times sucks. It totally removes the evil from within.
DAMN YOU PROPER UPBRINGING!!!
king please! “PROPER UPBRINGING”?? really? your mama must reading this today. lol! because you should have been trying to mop up that one-legged mess you typed yesterday, if you were going to tidy up anything! I am sure uni-peds across America are calling Al Sharpton and LULAC right now trying to protest that Panamanian Package!
Hostess says:
” They say they want someone smart and all but at the end of the day, they also want you to be pretty and shut up most times. She needs to use the looks she says she has to get where she wants to be.”
well Hostess our Lady of Shallows observes and asks:
“Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I’ve seen really ‘plain jane’ boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys.”
hmmmmm go figure. the somebodys that marry women as a beauties only (trophy wives) are probably the kind of persons that will do just what the male responder said “trade that ass in” cause she won’t age like wine and she won’t appreciate like real property but depreciate like that car as soon as you drive it off the lot. beauty for money that’s what she offers, so he quantified the shit perfectly. she’s a red mark on the balance sheet.
as my absolutely adorable 13 year old son would say:
PWND!!!
Totally pwnd.
what the hell does that mean?
owned
huh?….ok
Teacia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn
VSB – Where slanguage meets employment.
“Good folks of VSB.com…what do you think about this post and the response? Is this young lady delusional or does she just know what she wants out of life and isn’t settling? Is homeboy full of sh*t? Or did he just son this chick?”
I think the post was interesting and brutally honest on both of their ends. I think the girl is definitely shallow and delusional and clearly does not truly come from money which is why she can’t find the money she is looking for. Nor does she have a clue as to where to go to meet the money she desires.
I believe the dude was honest and I applaud him for addressing her in a respectful manner and presenting her with the facts. If a woman wants a man with that amount of money she has to at least bring half the amount and know that looks don’t mean a damn thing.
Hell, she mentioned “plain” women being married to the rich guys but I am sure those “plain” women came from money or are intellectually compatible with the rich guys. It’s never all about looks and it should never be all about money. Neither quality will make a person 100% happy in life. Successful couples are generally equally yoked.
a successful couple/marriage (defined as sticktuitivity) can often mean living in mutual denial of infidelity.”
a family can be just as dysfunctional where both parents are present as where one or both are not.
a successful couple/marriage (defined as sticktuitivity) can often mean living in mutual denial of infidelity.”
Yeah if that is the majority of people. The tantamount yokedness is going to signify everybody being on the same level all the way around. Even in what temptations they may be proned to yielding to.
I ain’t saying she’s a gold digger…but she ain’t eff-ing with no broke ni99a…
I swettuhgawt this is a mess! She is asking why she can’t find a rich man because since she thinks she is beautiful and smart millionaires should be falling from the sky! Whuddufuggevah! I think she is broke because she wants a certain standard of living that she doesn’t seem to have right now…and she doesn’t acknowledge that fact that she could at least be actively pursuing that “dream” for herself until her prince charming comes to riding in on his Black card…and she said she was a genius? Really? People that are talented to the level of genius, probably don’t even use the word “genius”! That’s like a diva, wearing a shirt that says “DIVA”…
My boys say they like beautiful women…beautiful as in the combination of outer and inner attractiveness…the ability to carry on a relevant conversation with a hint of wit doesn’t hurt either! She is probably walking around in one of P-Nimmy’s favorite undergarments, doing yoga in stilettos and full makeup because you never know where a sucker….ummm…I mean suitor could be lurking…
I am SO glad that the replied to her lunacy with tact and legitimate reasoning! But its was probably “pearls before swine” because she didn’t really want the truth…she wanted tips on where to hunt for a sponsor!
GOODENess i agree (and congrats…it looks like you are out of the corner, but hopefull i’m not speaking too soon
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I’m not mad at her for her ‘goals’, though they surely aren’t mine, but her biggest problem is that she doesn’t have a good grasp on what a 500k man wants…it’s clearly not just looks. Of course looks get you in the door, but at the end of the day there are certain sets of personality traits that people want, and clearly she ain’t got em. If she really wants a 500k man, she needs to do some research (not on craigs list) and figure out how to address his needs (and not just the obvioius ‘arm candy’ one) and change herslf accordingly. Now i’m not saying this is a good plan, molding yourself to fit a person’s ideal if that ain’t really you, but if she really ONLY wants what she claims to want she’ll do it. Her problem is, she wants a 500k man and she still wants to be her non-charming self, and it’s not working out well for her.
poignant. ummmh. casting pearls before swine is a waste. well put.
I bring nothing to the table.
I have a shirt that says so
LMAO.
I want tips on where hunt for a sponsor, too.
older men or young jocs…it’s as simple as that.
good advice for the trick. i would tell her i could make all her dreams cum true and to get out there on the stroll for me. make me proud, trick. LOL!
ooooh that’s not nice genuis…lol.
@GK. LOL. You would put that ho on a stroll?!?!? Too funny
shhhiiiiittt, thank i’m playin. LOL! i got some retired pimp in me that she is beggin for me to pull out. i can spot a trick. freakmaster signing out.
u know im caught between spirituality philosophy and pimpdom. hep me lawd!
I personally found the post humorous, as I did when I read it almost a year ago, but I see nothing wrong with it.
She’s being honest about what she wants, and there are PLENTY of men who will pay heavy cash to have someone beautiful in their midst. Maybe she’s just too picky, an older fat man would LOVE her and give her everything she wants. And she’s obviously hanging in the wrong circles…there’s a way to get next to money, new or old. So it’s my conclusion that she’s pretty yet dumb…there’s no savy there at all. What she should have been doing was finding a way to volunteer for a black tie charity event…rich men love the damsel in distress.
Or she should have found her way into a random yet well know hangout of “theirs” looking completely uninterested and totally engulfed in her thoughts…men can’t help but approach a women who doesn’t seem to notice her surroundings and can care less about them.
Yeah there is a certain shallowness to her post, but let’s be real, men with money aren’t delusional to that fact and most use their income as a stepping stone to get what they want. There’s even a dating service in NY that hooks up beautiful women with rich men, b/c that’s what they both want. Oh and I think that although he was right, he sounded a bit salty about being a financial target. Shit, I wish her luck.
This was hilarious and he definitely played the shit out of her.
Damn he hit the nail on the head. “depreciating asset”
Actually, now that I think about it, there’s that show on Bravo, Millionaire Matchmaker. For those of you that haven’t seen it, it’s a dating service turned tv show that hooks up “pretty” women with millionaire men. These women are rather average in looks if you ask me, and their jobs range from hairstylist to aspiring actress/model to whatever else they do.
I’ve only seen the show twice, but the guys that I saw seemed like jerks. The guys were well into their 40s and when asked by the matchmaker what they were looking for, they basically described a woman half their age that resembled a playboy centerfold.
Craigslist girl would be perfect for this type of service.
im telling you pimps gonna see this and reply to the ad. she begging to get turned out. she’s looking for a resthaven for ho’s. my boy Charm out on the left coast or Pretty Tony in the east will have her on the stroll before quick can get ready. trust i. hell she probably on the bully right now as we speak.
ohhhhhhhhh man I soooo remember this. I laughed sooo hard. He definitely sonned her. I posted this up on facebook with tears in my eyes
thats what she gets!
Beautiful women are not desperate like this lady is. Beautiful by whos standards, obviously not the men making 500k +. Also being beautiful on the outside has nothing to do with making a man see that he could spend the rest of his life w/u. Bitch needs to get a hobby or something!
“Bitch needs to get a hobby or something!”
another good t-shirt, if you change the wording up a bit
@Champ. I sooooooo agree. I want that shirt in a baby tee
This was an amazing read – hers for never once giving a thought to love, and his for its sheer brilliance.
he sonned(?) the shit outta her.
i hope that this is fake
I love it! Dude straight owned her ass! The audacity of gold diggers!
it’s me again, checking in from wintry Jo’burg – glad to be of service, champ – you ARE worldwide! i’m trying to get all my friends to check in thrice daily on the site, it’s a delicious addiction!
verklempt – translation, please?
Verklempt — choked with emotion (German verklemmt = emotionally inhibited in a convulsive way; stuck)
Wikipedia FTW….