Eh. I Guess I Can Deal With That: Not Really All That Red Flags

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***Today’s post is an updated version of “Wild Cherry Flags.” Enjoy, and have a good weekend***

A woman with a pink phone and a messy apartment is usually a dealbreaker, but I guess I can make a rare exception

So, at my Madame Noire column this week, the first question was from a guy who ruined a seemingly good relationship by being too pressed. (What exactly is too pressed? Well, traveling across state lines to see someone who specifically told you not to come seems to meet the “too pressed” distinction)

As I pointed out in my response, if this guy would have just read VSB, he would have realized that “being too f*cking” pressed” might just be the only universal red flag; the one thing that everybody regards as a total no-no. We all hate super clingy people, and this hate is more intense than the white-hot heat of 1,000 pairs of Delta panties.

Actually, lemme rephrase that. Everybody hates super clingy potential mates…except me.

Now obviously, being with a Clingon wouldn’t be my optimum choice. Although I’m not a space Nazi, I do appreciate some alone time for writing, “pastor racing“, “nothing doing” (Which is slowly becoming my favorite hobby. Seriously, you haven’t lived until you’ve marked off some time in your schedule to do… absolutely nothing. It’s a blast), and other leisurely independant activities.

But, if I were forced to choose between dating a “clingy” chick and a “cold” chick, “clingy” would win every time. Personally, i’d much rather be bombarded with attention than be in a romantic relationship devoid of it.

Again, I’m not saying that I’d prefer it, but there are worse qualities a women can have — “smoker’s laugh,” “being from Texas,” etcand I can live with clingy.

Anyway, people of VSB.com, I’m curious: Can you think of any attributes and/or personal characteristics that are red flags and/or dealbreakers for pretty much everyone…except you?

Are you cool with cats who call 50 times a day? Willing to work with women who don’t go give head? Down to date dudes who aren’t tall enough to ride Ferris wheels?

The carpet is yours.

—The Champ

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774 thoughts on “Eh. I Guess I Can Deal With That: Not Really All That Red Flags

  1. @#$% I have been sitting here for the last 10 minutes trying to think of one and I can’t… I can’t think of one thing that’s considered a red flag that I’m ok with. I feel prejudiced all of a sudden.

    • Ok wait I think I thought of a couple.

      A WOMAN WHO CURSES:
      I think (maybe) for some people that would be a red flag that she is uncultured or ghetto… but it doesn’t bother me. A well timed “muthaf#cka” or “what the f#ck” during an intellectual conversation and used in context actually gets you bonus points.

      A WOMAN WHO CAN DANCE LIKE A STRIPPER:
      You might end up with some ones in your waist line to tell the truth. I know the knee jerk speculation is that she must have been a stripper, but really, I think there’s been enough pole dancing classes out there that the “booty shake” skill set is no longer exclusive to the Playas club.

      Aight that’s all I got.

  2. I don’t know about this one. Are these things that we like that no one else likes or things we’ll live with? I’m not good at imagining what I’d settle for. Not to say that I demand perfection, but I don’t exactly go to bed thinking “I could def deal with a guy who was 5’6.” (I’m 5’10)

    This is my long winded way of saying I’m not sure how to answer this question and I’ll come back after some more folks have responded.

    • Girl why did I think you were like 5’3” or something? LOL, for some reason, your avi makes me feel like you’re short. *shrugs*

    • Hmm.

      1.) Sports heads. We can watch the game together. Especially if it’s football :) FALCONS!

      2.) Gamers. But only if you let me watch. And I get to ask questions.

      3.) Geeks. 8)

      4.) Men who are incredibly busy because they’re neck deep in the professional grind. Because I am too. And it would be nice not to feel guilty about only being able to hit him up once every other week.

      5.) Men who having opposing political or philosophical views as long as they can back them up intelligently and respectfully while demonstrating that they posses human decency. (Tea party members need not apply). This doesn’t extend to religious views. Not being on Team Jesus is a deal breaker. #yeshrug

      • Well, I was in with the libertarian thing (like the Tea Party, but with sense ;-) ), but I’m not on Team Jesus. I’m a Deist in fact. Damn. No Andi for me…and I like tall women. :)

        • This is very true. But some how there are still chicks out there who want to whine whenever there man wants to watch the game or go to a sports bar.

          GTFOOH

          Take me to the bar with you. We can get beer and wings!!!!

          #myguiltypleasure

        • I have mentioned that before. I picture no sports guy as the one black guy out with his colleagues at the Indian restaurant, wearing velcro strap sandals and carrying a tote bag made from hemp.

          • Well most people get caught up in politics like it’s a team sport and root for their side creating false dichotomies between the options available. Politics shouldn’t either the democrats lose or the republicans lose, it should be take the best option available for the best outcome of the people.

            Take the most contentious political issue out there, abortion. Do I like abortions? No. Most people would stop there and say I’m not for it so it should be illegal. I’m not for it so I think think that means that we should try to have as few as possible. Is criminalization the most expedient way to get that to happen? No. Much like with prohibition, the toll for making abortion illegal is steep, it is very hard to force a woman to carry a child to term if she wants to and the damage she will do to herself and the baby if safe and effective means to do so aren’t available is horrific. Effective education and having available, affordable contraception is best way to lower the number.

            If criminalizing abortion is more important to you than the number of babies loss and lives altered by doing so then how can we have a conversation? If someone wants to argue about the rightness or wrongness of their way of thinking at the expense of what they claim to care about then how can they justify it other than saying their rightness is more important than anything else?

            • “If someone wants to argue about the rightness or wrongness of their way of thinking at the expense of what they claim to care about then how can they justify it other than saying their rightness is more important than anything else?”

              This is the best question to have ever been asked… ever.

              Like, it summarizes about 97.9% of politically-charged debates.

              • Lao Tzu stated, “One can never truly understand without first seeing what they question from opposite of where they are, but can not get there unless they are sure of their present place, thought, and emotion. Only from the honesty of the subjective can the objective every be understood. If you cant be honset about where you are, you always lie to yourself as you try to understand others.”

  3. Fortunately this revelation didn’t happen in a relationship of mine, but “not being born male” is a deal breaker (no, you don’t want to know the story, but I learned not to go hoo-riding/when keeping it real goes wrong in college)

      • Noooooooooooooooo with M. Night Shylaman. I actually think I mentioned this before on another thread. Let’s just say I’m not in jail since I chose not to get in the car to ride on his?/her? apartment with some folks I went to school with. It’s a Googleable incident and I don’t want to be the “Suzie” of the crew, mostly since I know fear those cats now.

        But I AM salty that you can get your birth certificate changed to reflect your new gender. I get your licence, but your birth certificate?

        • the only “Suzie” i know is a glove filled with hot water that is used to engage in “relations” with when a man is incarcerated…

          that being said… whatever you wrote above is NOT the story… maybe i wasn’t clear…

        • Ok I was teasing. I’m pretty sure this is a very intricate story and personally, I think I understand how you feel. Plastic surgery is getting better and better these days, and I have found myself questioning my own standards after realizing some fine ass women I’ve seen in life were actually schlong holders.

          That kind of smack in the face is not pretty at all.

    • “(no, you don’t want to know the story, but I learned not to go hoo-riding/when keeping it real goes wrong in college)”

      You ain’t BLOG about this yet? THAT is the question. lol

  4. 1. Being illiterate: The Waka Flocka School of Grammar is a no go. Anti-Irene.
    2. Disrespect: I’m not a gangster but don’t push me; something will pop off for disrespect. #respectmyminigangster
    3. Touching when I say “don’t touch” : I’m a “bubble” sort of person, but I can be very flexible with everything except hand-holding and sex obviously which is very sacred to me.
    4. Non-drive: Like a car without a steering wheel, if you ain’t goin’ nowhere, then neither are we homeboy.
    5. Lack of creativity: I find almost everything creative in one way or another so if dude is just coming up dry? Well…I guess so will I.

  5. I don’t mind if my man goes to the strip club every now and then with the fellas. I think a lot of women take issue with that but I don’t…hey, maybe we can even go together.

    • This instantly makes you awesome.

      I honestly hate trying to live my life while dealing with a woman’s insecurity caused by men who ARE NOT ME.

      Seeing a naked woman dance around is no threat to the person I’m going home to.

      • Me? Awesome? Ur far too kind, lol.

        In my mind, when he comes home he’ll be REEEAAADDDDYYYYYY and thats my cue to make it do what it do. So, in my eyes everybody wins.

            • Lol@Todd…..I haven’t met your wife, but as a wife myself….the strip club is a no-go. It’s not really about insecurity, it’s about protecting the sanctity of marriage and filling your relationship with wholesome things…..strip clubs, pron, the club ect. may seem like innocent things but little by little they can unravel the fabric of a relationship. Banning these things from a marriage might seem radical, but if you look at the divorce rate it’s clear that you have to do radical things to stay in the marriage game…..now if people are just dating for fun, these ideas may not apply….but for people thinking about a lifetime commitment together, you have to consider the impact of the little things.

              • Women have danced naked since the beginning of time.

                So, I respectfully disagree, not that you asked my opinion. : ) The increase in divorce is related to the shift in social position for women, the di-stigmatization of divorce, and the fact that we (women) no longer have to remain married to a man. We have options.

                But that a different post.

                • Not only that, I think people get married for the wrong reasons. I have several friends who have accepted proposals knowing good and well it was a bad move.. I have a cousin who let his wife strong arm him down the isle because he has low self esteem and he thought she was as good as it was going to get. People just need to stop fooling themselves. I’m not married but when I do get married, I certainly hope that he is the one person I can truely let me hair down with and vice versa. So, if he wants to hit the strip club every now and then, hey babe do your thing, enjoy.

              • Honestly, the strip club isn’t my thing, and the last time I set foot in one was 4 years ago at my wife’s request. That said, unless dude is being obsessive about strip clubs or porn, or if it’s effecting your love life, let it rock. If the man is taking care of business at home and not being obsessive about it, he’s proven that he can partake without going to excess. Any resulting insecurities aren’t because of the club or the porn, but whatever other issues between the two of you.

                Don’t blame outside issues for problems within a relationship.

              • @ Kayjaye

                While I agree we must take some radical steps to ensure marriage lasts, being too radical can work against you too. If things (besides the obious) become off limits, people will engage simply because they are being told they can’t.

                My wife knows I’m too cheap for the strip club (recylcle strip club money post upthread) and knows that porn (despite the fact we may watch a flck or 2 together) does not have a hold over me and I’m not off chaging $9.95 descreetly to our credit cards.

    • i didn’t know that men going to the strip club is a deal breaker… well then:

      plus me and add to that.. i don’t mind him watching copious amount of adult erotic cinema and doing whatever he feels to do during and after whether i am in the vicinity or not…

      • For some women it is a deal breaker. My friend was all up in arms because her man gotta lap dance on his bday. It all boils down to trust issues though. If I can’t trust you in a strip club then i can’t trust you anywhere.

        • Honestly I agree with your last sentence Kidsister. I mean, the strip club can be every bit like the regular club and if I don’t want you at one, then I don’t want you at the other.

          As it stands, I don’t care if my dude goes to either. If he doesn’t come home…that’s something else.

        • I don’t get the big deal about the strip club either, but then again I’ve been a few times with a guy. Seems more like a waste of money to me. Of course this shouldn’t be a regular thing.

          • It is a waste of money. I had fun with it back when I was a teenager because me and my boys were just learning about sex and the youngest people at the clubs. I’m 27 now. I dare someone to ask me about going to a strip club and I will proceed to go into a Steve Harvey-like rant for 20 minutes

      • ROTFLMAO! My wife gets mad at me when she THINKS I’ve been looking at…ahem, adult independent cinema. (‘Cause bruhman doesn’t do Vivid or Wicked. ;-) ) Seriously though, my wife thinks the second I look at that, I won’t look at her or touch her again. I could go in on that, but that’s another story. :)

            • My wife is all retro when there were storylines; none of this hey what’s your name *casio keyboard starts playing* pants drop.

            • Tried that, didn’t work. She was the stereotype of the chick that looks at porn and points out the cellulite and the C-section scar. Plus she somehow ended up MORE jealous. The only exception to her hatred is Belladonna…and that’s because she hasn’t seen her do Black guys. LOL

              • Yeah I like Belladonna, she’s cute when her hair isn’t buzz cut. I’m definitely critical while watching… but not in a bad “oh she’s ugly/has stretch marks” kind of way- I actually like ‘em less perfect, more average.

                But I’m more like, “um ok, that right there don’t feel _that_ good” (I hate when the sounds they make don’t match the work being put it…) It’d only make me jealous if a guy were more interested in watching it, than doing it… I definitely don’t need us to be finishing the whole dayum flick… I will side eye that- unless you walk in on me watching it and were never really in the mood in the first place.

                • co-sign, i’d only care if it was interfering with our chex life. if it’s benefiting it or not doing anything to it, i’ont even care.

                • Chunk.. my e-sister wife… i lubs you… BELLLDONNA is the GOAT!!!!!! she taught me so many things.. and to date i have yet to see a scene with her that wasn’t hot even if she was doing things i give the major side eye to, i still end up liking it watching

                  on that note… Everyone please join me in welcoming Chunk… my e-sisterwife although late still great

                  ?BIG?UPS? to ??????CHUNK??????

                  Much ??? BLESSINGS ??? sent your way ?? Please stay and continue to ?

                  • Awwwwwwwwww I wish I remembered my fancy HTML cause I would give all of this back to you doll! (((hug))) <—— that's all I got! LOL

                    Thank you, Yoles…. I's officially welcomed and shyt!

    • I agree…that has never made sense to me. Once I went with my bf and she and I gave him a double lap dance (I kept my clothes on though).

    • The ladies I’ve dated most recently have all stated some version of “How often do you go to strip clubs?” and “Can I go with you?”. This is much better that the ladies I’ve dated who would get upset if I suggest she and I go to Hooters for lunch. I only go to strip clubs on special occasions like when a friend comes to town who wants to go; otherwise, I’d rather use the money on more productive pursuits….a new handgun or something.

    • “hey, maybe we can even go together.”

      I agree, in fact, I WANT us to go together at least once. These are the types of fun memories you should accumulate with your man. Other that, I can’t have my dude going crazy because he doesn’t get to man-stuff with his boys. Same thing with me wanting some girl-time.

    • Back in my eager-to-please days, I’d also say that I’d go with my man to a strip club. Now in my don’t-give-a-ish days, I’m not trying to go someplace pretending to be enjoying seeing men gaze all goofy-eyed at some sweaty skanks dancing on poles and such (I’ve been to a ‘nice’ strip club before…exciting at first, then the pathetic nature of the whole scene started becoming apparent). I wouldn’t mind if he went, just as long as he doesn’t expect me to go with him.

  6. Answering the question oppositely: Dating Military Officers is a deal breaker for me however women swoon over men in uniforms who are in charge. I’ve had my fair share of military men and no longer interested in what an entire group of men have to offer men anymore. Yes all 4 branches of the military are off limits.

              • Exactly. Plus, now that we know what kinda guys I tend to end up with… well, we know I’m kinda on the whole opposite side of the spectrum, lol.

                And, I was thinking about this… I think I’d get clowned more for bringing a cop home than I would for bringing a white guy home. I mean, they’d eventually love whoever I brought home, but I think the cop would have a harder time… a much, much harder time.

                Yeah, actually, I never would. It’s official because just thinking about it has me messed up.

                • God forbid he’d be white and a cop! LMAO! Sorry, I was just thinking the worst of the worst situations and that popped in my head. :)

                  • Girl. That right there is impossible. I mean like entirely all the way no can do never will happen impossible. LMAO. Yeah, that’s the worse.

                    Man I need to go listen to We Are the World or something. Just terrible.

            • LOL me either. I mean, I have a certain thang for men in Navy suits (dad was in it), but it’s just that… physical. It’s a whole ‘nother thing actually getting to know the person. I’ve heard horror stories from women who dated men serving the country in various fields. Alcoholism was number one in the Navy, particularly.

        • It’s actually really sad to me, but I won’t even give a cop a chance… I met a nice guy once, and in the first hour of the convo found out he was the po po and that ended the whole chance, every ounce, no takebacks. I swear “you are the enemy” kept going through my head in rapid succession like I was robot programmed to disengage on “I’m a police officer.”

          Later I wrote about that cuz I was kind of mad at myself, but still. I can’t. I just can’t.

      • It was a decision I had to make for myself. The military men I’ve dated are successful black men, great manners, late 20s, educated, charming, and great to be around. I use to love military officers but I personally think they dangle their “status” in the air and want women to jump and crawl at them.

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