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Dear White People Who Write Things: People Who Voted For A Blatant Racist Are Fine With Racism (This Is Not Hard)

I’m going to keep this short, because I’ve written about this before. Twice actually in the past three months. Plus I’m in D.C. for the next day and it’s 5pm on a Friday and I’m going to find some drinks and some wings and some Black people soon. Mostly though I hoped that maybe by now that this trend of White writers and bloggers and reporters and pundits reluctant to label Trump supporters as either blatantly racist and sexist and homophobic or perfectly fine with blatant racism, sexism, and homophobia existing — which is essentially the same thing — would have ended by now. Which, admittedly, was a foolish hope. But I also thought the Steelers would win last weekend and that Inspectah Deck would have the best solo career out the Wu, so I’m familiar with foolish hopes.

Anyway, “The More Trump Hates, the More America Rejects His Hatred” from Slate’s William Saletan has a great title, a great subtitle (Whites and men elected him. But polls show they didn’t support his attacks on immigrants, Muslims, and women.), a great premise, uses great polling data to provide evidence for his premise, and ends with a greatly optimistic edict:

But the election wasn’t a mandate for chauvinism. It doesn’t show that whites liked Trump’s attacks on immigrants or Muslims. It doesn’t show that men liked his attacks on women. They didn’t, and they like it less every day. The people are on our side, and they get the last word. Let’s make sure they deliver it.

Unfortunately, as much as I want to believe in the latent goodness of Trump supporters — which, apparently, just needs some understanding and some sensitivity (and perhaps even some Ralph Tresvant) for that goodness to be extracted out — there’s this annoying little thing preventing me from doing that.

They voted for him.

He made no effort to hide or spin his racism and sexism and hate for Muslims and Mexicans and non-alternative facts, and they voted for him. He’s done nothing since being elected and inaugurated except exactly what he said he was going to do. Perhaps the polling data says something completely different, but didn’t something major happen in America like three months ago that proved much of that type of polling data obsolete? Something that proved that while people know that they’re supposed to feel a certain way about injustices against minorities and women and other vulnerable people, there’s a huge difference — a yuge difference — between knowing they’re supposed to feel that way (and answering questions to reflect that) and actually feeling that way. Maybe they didn’t all vote for him specifically because of the melange of regressive fuckshit associated with him — although A LOT did — but they were fine enough with it. Those kind and nice and simple and just and concerned motherfuckers who are so apparently upset by the actions of that motherfucker voted for that motherfucker.

And, if they no longer want to be thought of as motherfuckers, then they should stop voting for and supporting motherfuckers. Until then, fuck them.

Damon Young

Damon Young is the editor-in-chief of VSB. He is also a columnist for GQ.com And he's working on a book of essays to be published by Ecco (HarperCollins). Damon is busy. He lives in Pittsburgh, and he really likes pancakes. Reach him at damon@verysmartbrothas.com. Or don't. Whatever.

  • 1ncredulously

    These are the same people arguing that nazis shouldn’t be punched. Trump’s racism and misogyny doesn’t represent an existential threat to them so it’s ultimately irrelevant to their decision making. They’re here for the platitudes, but not for the fight.

    • Furious Styles

      While I agree that punching Nazis doesn’t change their (or their followers’) beliefs, neither will facts, thinkpieces nor visits to the heartland with talk about true democracy over tea and buttermilk biscuits.
      “…some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”

      • Passion Rutledge Cheek

        Exactly!

      • It’s about resistance not “changing their views.” I don’t mean this as a personal thing towards you. We just need to move away from this idea that all talking points, dialogues, conversations need to be centered around the idea of changing hearts and minds. A lot of times you just need to make your morals and standards loud and clear and just stick to them.

        • Furious Styles

          ” We just need to move away from this idea that all talking points, dialogues, conversations need to be centered around the idea of changing hearts and minds.”

          Thanks for that. No offense taken, bruh. We on the same page.

          We’ve been told for probably the last fifty years or more the lie that racism will be gone when the old bigots die. Intellectually I know that old narrative was based on a view of racism as individual attitudes and acts of meanness rather than an insidious system. But a part of me still wants it to be true.

          • La Bandita

            It wasn’t said that old bigots pass on their message and make young bigots.

          • Mochasister

            Old bigots die only to be replaced by young bigots.

        • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

          Sometimes you have to impose your will.

      • Brother Mouzone

        The punch will change their mind if you punch em hard enough…lol.

        • Furious Styles

          Alternative fact- Spencer was not punched-his “neurons were realigned”…

      • miss t-lee

        I need this on a shirt.

  • MsCee

    RaeNBow here is the requested update on woman and man… They talked… Agreed that they’re better as friends(which they’ve said 1,000 times since they first met 10 years ago)… man has since texted and called woman every single day since then and offered to make her his homemade tacos which he knows she loves…

    • miss t-lee

      Oh dear…

      • Courtney Wheeler

        Im so hungry…I want tacos :(

        • miss t-lee

          I just had a burrito for lunch, I’m over here fighting the itis…lol

    • RaeNBow

      what?!?! his words and actions are not congruent. I feel confused. but please urge woman to eat the tacos! cause, tacos are awesome.

      • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

        So are we going to tell the guy the same thing?

        • RaeNBow

          el oh el… that probably shouldn’t have been that funny.. but it was. because my mind is wrong. LOL but suuuuuuure, tell man the same thing! LOL

          • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

            If your mind is wrong, so is every mind in this comment section.

      • MsCee

        Woman wants man to take his tacos and…well, you know. Woman accepts that all things come to an end. Even a love that she developed when she was 14 years old.

        • RaeNBow

          this is bogus. like, don’t give me expensive jewelry and tell me “we’re better as friends” … but i hope woman is doing OK after “Mission: Build Me Up, Buttercup Baby Just To Let Me Down”

          • MsCee

            Woman is perfectly fine lol… she could probably muster up some disappointment if she weren’t accustomed to mans shenanigans. SN:Woman wore the earrings recently and looked AMAZING in them.

      • IAmMikeBrown
      • miss t-lee

        His words and actions are in different f*cking galaxies.

        • RaeNBow

          and thats some BULL doggy. people who operate like that should be set to an island. i have a good friend who acts like this. his grip on reality is questionable. the isht he says versus isht he does be having me like, “Negro WHAT” and i tell him all the time he is delusional. he don’t be tryna hear me though

          • miss t-lee

            Yup. It’s definitely frustrating. But when you figure that out…it’s so much easier to deal with them.

    • Val
      • MsCee

        Lmfao, really though.

    • NonyaB?

      WTF. Woman needs to tell him as such: his tacos and company taste much better when backed by balls/backbone (AKA matching words/verbal agreement and actions). Since that is difficult for him to achieve at this time, she has chosen to clear the confusion by putting some distance between them for now, including not responding to his texts or calls by blocking him (also helps her stick to it). She’s sure he understands. Maybe someday in future they can continue the friendship, but for now, cancel him and his game playing. Sure, she could say fxck it and eat the tacos but consider how entertaining him wastes her precious time and cancels potential exposure to other, better candidates.

      If he wants her to touch his balls, he has to grow some first.

      • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

        Tell him this after tacos, right?

        • NonyaB?

          Nah, clean cut.Otherwise, you keep waiting until till later to cut a ninja lose.

          • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

            But tacos? I guess I was just raised different.

            • NonyaB?

              Lots of other places to get good tacos.

            • La Bandita

              Ay there are countries filled with tacos. He’s not the only taco holder. Also, she should have her taco without confusion.

      • MsCee

        Literally, crying laughing. Woman did exactly that. Woman met up with her girlfriends this weekend and met some new guys. Woman is glad to see she “still got it.” No shenanigans 2017 is her motto, so I hear!

        • NonyaB?

          Alright! No fxckery for the 2000 and the 17. Get out there and break some hearts.

    • La Bandita

      No tocas for me. Im working on my Summer body.

  • Courtney Wheeler
  • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

    I read that article and thought similarly. How can we deal with racism in this country when only POC will acknowledge its impact on decision making?

  • Candace Driver

    Word.

  • Val

    It isn’t the White writers and pundits equivocating and dismissing White racism that bothers me. That’s par for the course. What bothers me is Black writers and pundits who are afraid to call out Trump voters for who they truly are and make excuses for them. That’s inexcusable.

    • Exactly. You can’t let them off the hook. They need to own their place in the mob that put the con man in office.

      https://hhharris.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/very-inelegant/

    • cyanic

      Black people certainly feel trained to tow the line of least resistance.

      • Val

        Some Black people.

        • cyanic

          Is my writing absolutist with the declarative sentences?

          • Val

            Back off me with all those big words, Mayne. Lol

            • cyanic

              I have a common vocab, but my syntax is shaped by my background in poetry.

              • Val

                Prove it.

                • cyanic

                  Write a poem for ya?

                  • Val

                    That would be wonderful.

                    • cyanic

                      Your eyes give us only a glimpse of your possible further beauty
                      we’d find while looking at your whole face.

                      You are the calm voice of reason around these parts and sometimes politically correct because you’re down for the righteous cause always.

                      Sometimes I envy the attention you receive from both genders because you’re equally desired from all directions.

                    • Val

                      Wow, Man. *blushes* Thanks, that was beautiful.

                    • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

                      Welp. He’s on my team next comment battle.

                    • Yoni Gebru

                      LOL

                    • Mary Burrell

                      I ‘m impressed that’s better than God is my goon.

                    • Mary Burrell

                      Seriously you are eloquent with words.

                    • cyanic

                      Thank you.

                    • Mary Burrell

                      Most welcome.

                    • La Bandita

                      Now, that’s how you handle Val. All future disagreements should come in poem form. Proceed, mi amor..

                    • Val

                      Lol @ handle me

                    • La Bandita

                      Yeah, he should send e – candy too. And e -chocolate covered almonds (that’s for me).

      • L8Comer

        Cute avi. That u?

        • cyanic

          No babe. Biopic Ralph from The New Edition movie. His name is Algee Smith.

          • Val

            So, am I the only one who was disappointed with the New Edition mini-series?

            • cyanic

              What disappointed you?

              • Val

                I thought the casting could have been better. As I said to NWT, it seemed disjointed at times. I know they were trying to use that as a vehicle to tell the story but mostly it didn’t work. Some of the dialogue seemed forced too.

                • cyanic

                  I think they mostly succeeded attempting to mount an epic out of their story. Elements were bound to disappoint.

            • Why are you disappointed? ALTHOUGH, their timeline was all over the place

              • Val

                That was part of it. It felt disjointed a lot of the time.

            • PhDivaLife

              I enjoyed the first two episodes, but last night was disappointing to me.

              • Val

                Last night I kept thinking they were going to blend the movie BET performance at the end with the real performance. I was really disappointed they didn’t.

                • PhDivaLife

                  I was hoping that they’d end with the latest song, This One’s for Me and You even though it doesn’t include Bobby and morph into the real NE performing it. Even though they haven’t done anything else major in the last 10 years, they’ve toured so I was sorta miffed that it ended with something that occurred 10 years ago.

            • miss t-lee

              Possibly.

              • Val

                Not sure yet?

                • miss t-lee

                  I mean…I don’t wanna say you’re the only one, but it’s possible. :)

                  • Val

                    Lol

                • Janelle Doe

                  I havent seen it yet, when I do I’ll let you know what I thought.

            • Mary Burrell

              I am in the chicken wing joint getting my lemon pepper flats and trying to get home to watch NE. Everyone at my work (the black folks) said it was good.

              • Val

                You gonna share, Mary? :-)

                • Mary Burrell

                  E share.

            • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

              LOL. You can make the case that the end of the third part of the series wasn’t that powerful, but the first 2 parts were very good in my view.

              Peace for now Sister.

            • L8Comer

              Why were u disappointed?

            • Nik White

              I didn’t watch it yet.

            • 44isnojoke

              Lady Val….I’m going to say that you ARE the only one. I watched it yesterday with no commercials all 3 parts. I loved it…I loved it because they had the dudes making videos doing the dance moves…even sounding like them. I’m a fan…and if it were garbage I would be the 1st one to say so.

              • Val

                Lol I didn’t say it was ‘garbage’. I just thought it had a few flaws.

            • Mary Burrell

              The New Edition movie wasn’t bad at all.

              • Brother Mouzone

                For a BET production it wasn’t that bad. I just hate when they are casting real life Black people and they don’t even TRY to get the looks or complexion close to the real person being portrayed. Like light skinnded James Earl Jones playing blackety black Jack Johnson, or blackety black Sidney Poitier playing light skinded Thurgood Marshall. I know we’re all Black, but try to get someone CLOSE to the same look. The little boy playing Bobby was good casting but grown up Bobby looked like Michael Vick.

            • Cleojonz

              I was disappointed with the ending. They kind of phoned it in with the earlier episode montages.

          • L8Comer

            Ahhh they were all so cute. I’m watching last one now ?

            • Mary Burrell

              It was better that I expected. I like the younger actors the best. It wasn’t bad at all.

              • L8Comer

                Yep I like it too :)

          • pls

            *stalks algee on social media*

            • cyanic

              Leave my literal baby alone!

        • Val

          Having a good Friday, L?

          • L8Comer

            Eh, not really. Getting better tho. You?

            • Val

              I’m sorry to hear that, L. I hope your evening and weekend are much better. *eHUG*

              My Friday was okay. Mainly because I got a lot of work done yesterday. Looking forward to relaxing this weekend.

              • L8Comer

                I’m glad to hear it! I’m doing better already now that I’m off work and home :)

                • Val

                  Good. :-)

            • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

              Do I need to put hands on someone?

              • L8Comer

                Nah, but thanks Kas daddy?

    • Glo

      These people need to understand that assimilation will never save you.

      • Val

        Right. Nor will sparing White feelings.

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      • HouseSublime

        It’s been 30+ years of life for me to get to this realization. Obama (regardless of how you feel about him) did everything they asked. Educated, family man, no scandals, well spoken, and generally a “good” man and they still hated him. That was it for me. No matter how much you assimilate they will still hate you so there is no point in wasting your time. Be yourself, be great, and challenge the establishment every step of the way.

        • “M”

          They hated him because he was smarter than all of them.

          There is a certain class of (usually) wypipo who doesn’t want anybody else to have nice things.

          They don’t care if he takes their health care if “those people” have it worse. They don’t care if he taxes them down into dust if “those others” have it worse.

          Those people are irrational, bigoted, xenophobia-enabling idiots, so we don’t waste our time with them.

          • neodymium

            They also live in Armpit, Texas and have never encountered people of color and other minority groups.

            • Charlito Brown

              Mmmmnah. I bet a lot of them encounter PoC all the time. I’m not from the South, but let’s stop picking on the South like that’s the only place in this country racism and white supremacy has existed. It’s getting played out.

              • neodymium

                There are thousands of towns all over America,
                Just as much in the North as in the South, where these people have never seen a person of color except for on TV. They don’t leave for college or to the big cities and gain exposure to diversity and as a result suffer from closemindedness due to the inability to examine life from across the aisle. Its no excuse, but their ignorance is the driving factor in their split attitudes toward Trump and people of color

                • Charlito Brown

                  I can agree with you there.

              • Cat Gee

                reporting from portland, OR: plenty of people near a city / exposed to poc / “exposed” to liberal mindset, plenty of trump support

            • John Q. Whiteman

              Studies have shown that white people who live near large concentrations of blacks actually tend to have lower opinions of blacks.

    • Charles Johnson

      Jameille Bouie on slate has been on that asz since day one. Brotha is not here for this nonsense

      • Val

        Hiya, Charles. Long time no see.

        Most Black writers are calling them out. But the ones who aren’t are very problematic.

        • “M”

          Same with Chauncey Vega at Salon and the writers on The Root.

          Who’s ruined your day? And what would you have them say instead?

          • Val

            Not sure what your point is.

            • “M”

              You seem to be doing a lot of vague complaining about specific points of view without bothering to let us know who has the ones to which you object nor what you think should be done about it.

              • Val

                Meh, anyone who reads a lot of writers or watches a lot of political shows know exactly what I’m talking about.

                And there’s nothing vague about what I said.

                • “M”

                  ‘k.

        • Charles Johnson

          Hey Val! I cut off innanets for a while until after the election. Now I’m sorta back and getting all the feels being on VSB and clutch. I need group therapy with kinfolk now more than ever loolol

      • DM.

        Jamelle was completely delusional about the election and Hillary’s chances though.
        His articles in the lead up to Nov 8 were a horror show

        • Agreed. Also, Jamelle knows his politics, but can be Fisher Price simplistic on policy. Like this is the best we can do?

        • Charles Johnson

          YOU AIN’T NEVER LIE

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      Magnificent Points Sister. There is no excuse to support Trump period. With his heinous executive orders, it is clear that he has no respect for human rights and common human compassion.

    • Furious Styles

      *cough*Van Jones*cough*

      • Val

        The odd thing about Van is he goes back and forth. Sometimes he just breaks it down and other times he tries to soften his words. But, he has his own show on CNN now so I guess that explains that.

    • Mrs.J

      Let’s not forget that many blacks voted for him and support him.

  • DST6N01

    Welp.

  • The thing that drives me up the wall about Trump supporters is when they say: “I’m not racist! I just have different priorities.” –> OH I’M SORRY. You’re saying that YOUR taxes and YOUR healthcare are more important than MY RIGHTS? You’re saying that an unborn baby is more important than my BORN BABY’S LIFE, because he or she is not a white Christian baby?

    Bunch of fucking racists. Period.

    • What they don’t realize is that their priorities props up racism. Because lower taxes and slashing the ACA redistributes wealth upward and white-ward. Because attack Planned Parenthood eliminates prenatal and reproductive health for POC; don’t forget that the 3 victims in the last PP shooting in Colorado were people of color.

      https://hhharris.wordpress.com/2017/01/26/very-inelegant/

    • IAmMikeBrown

      (Don’t say wall)

    • Darkchloe144

      Obligatory “SPEAK YO SPEECH”
      See, if a person really didn’t have a racist bone in their body, they would HEAR us when we say if they aren’t a part of the solution, they are a part of the problem.

      There is no escape from a white person’s place in white supremacy. They are trapped, forever doomed to pick a side, on purpose or not. They have their ancestors and Evil (in whatever form you can think of) to thank for that.

      So, I know, not one person who gives me that “priorities” BS is worth my time. If you don’t want me to think of you as racist or TOOL/COG in white supremacy, you better listen and learn never to tell me my quality of life, if not my VERY LIFE, ain’t got as much importance as your damn outmoded job security.

      • Ooph. AMEN.

      • Janelle Doe

        I was invited to a conversation some Christians were having about racism and the refugee crisis.
        Talk about denial, they talked about missions and helping people on their home soil but not a word about WHO made their homes unsafe in the first place.
        Just pure narrowminded BS.
        They could really benefit from eatprayloving into some reality checks

        • Diego Duarte

          They’d like to pretend the Iraq invasion and U.S. policy in the middle east for the past 70 years was justified.

        • Mary Burrell

          That is what frustrates me about Evangelicals they want to talk about homosexuality and abortion but they won’t discuss racism of marginalized groups. I have never understood that about them. Pat Robertson is very racist.

      • Brother Mouzone

        Wellllll…
        *old Black church lady voice.

    • Mary Burrell

      Those Trump supporters are on some ??

    • HoneyRose

      What they don’t realize is that by saying that, they are PROVING they are racist. You think your needs are more important than mine because you’re white. that’s the DEFINITION of racism!

  • BlackSpartacus

    Discount Double Fuck them and the pastor who told me to get over it because our battle isn’t against flesh and blood.

    • Charles Johnson

      Sounds like the turn the other cheek nonsense when it should be insert the foot in the others asz

    • Diego Duarte

      Notice how christians always ask you to turn the other cheek and respect your authorities, when a republican is president, but all he11 breaks lose when it’s a democrat in office? (God forbid he’s also a black man, or a woman).

  • skinnynow

    My father, who is damn near 70 and grew up down the street from a segregated pool, explained the election to me like this: Those damn peckerwoods didn’t want to be led by a woman.

    It’s not just the fact that the dude dog whistles more than anyone. It’s also that his dog whistling was a preferred option to her. That’s frightening.

    • bruhmanfrom5thflo

      The thing about Trump that makes voting for him so inexcusable is that he actually doesn’t dog whistle very much at all. He is very clear and direct about his racism, sexism, misogyny,etc. At least with dog whistling politicians, supporters can kind of, sort of (not really) excuse themselves because all of the evil is disguised under fluffy words. None of that fluff was here. Trump voters knew EXACTLY what they were voting for.

      • Kas loves Jamaican Breakfast

        EXACTLY!!!

      • Janelle Doe

        Say it again for anyone who might have missed it!
        They knew exactly who and what it meant and did it anyway and their convoluted why does not matter.
        What matters is their declaration (by voting) that women’s, LGbTQ+ and BIPOC rights dont count in comparison to whatever they thought they were gaining.

        • JennyJazzhands

          What did they think they were gaining? If you’re not a part of the wealthy 1%, I still don’t see what upside middle and lower class whites that voted for him are seeing.

          • Janelle Doe

            Jobs? That is what many in the Midwest keep saying

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        He said it loud and clear, and they loved what they heard!

    • miss t-lee

      This sounds similiar to something that my Pops said as well.

    • cedriclathan

      I actually have a friend (black) around 63, who shares those views. I pretty sure he didn’t want Drumpf, but, I’m not sure he voted for Hillary and I’m sure it would be because she’s a she. He’s fairly “macho” minded.

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