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Charlamagne Is Basically Every Ciara-Hating Twitter Nigga

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According to an African proverb, “You can’t be both dumb and ugly. Pick a struggle.” Charlamagne the I Don’t Use the Lord’s Name In Vain decided he would pick every struggle when he tweeted, in so many words, that Black women need to be more like hate-filled bucket of gluten-free fuckshit Tomi Lahren. He not only picked every struggle, but he’s giving each one a lap dance at King of Diamonds, boo-ing them up, then strolling down the aisle towards them before “International Player’s Anthem (I Choose You)” plays as his entry music. What a waste of UGK and Outkast, man.

Anyway…

1. First of all, Tomi Lahren didn’t create shit

Sidenote, you know a Black person is mad when we begin a sentence with “first of all.” There usually isn’t a second of all, it’s just a signal that we have a menagerie of qualms about some dumb shit somebody just said.

Tomi Lahren is not a creator. Most of her thoughts come from the same cesspool of right-wing catchphrases that have polluted the airwaves for decades. And she can parade her vomit of conservative talking points on-air because TheBlaze hired her and gave her that platform. She just…existed. That’s like saying we should be more like air… but precisely 5000% less useful than that.

Lahren gets paid to read a teleprompter. She doesn’t work towards justice. She doesn’t battle on the streets in civil disobedience. She doesn’t advance any noteworthy cause for equality. Hell, she doesn’t even have to do the basic work that even neo-Nazi creators have to do, like publish, produce, film, edit, or market. She doesn’t do any fucking thing to advance her Bullshit White Opinions™ except read 3rd grade rants on cue. Once again, White mediocrity is worth more than the real blood, sweat, and tears Black people — and Black women in particular — shed to protect ninjas who clearly couldn’t give a solitary damn.

2. Umm…Black women are doing the damn thing

While propping up Darth Neo-Con Becky, Charlamagne completely erased the Black women in entertainment and media who actually do the work he said we need to do. Did Franchesca Ramsey disappear all of a sudden? Crissle claps back at White foolishment on multiple media outlets on a regular. Luvvie Ajayi has become a national treasure. Kimberly Foster built up For Harriet with nothing but grit and started creating regular video content. Ava DuVernay is making award-winning films and documentaries and addictive TV shows. (Editor’s note: There’s also Morgan Debaun, Evelyn From The Internets, Another Round, Aisha Harris’s Represent podcast at Slate, my cousin sarah huny young…)

Beyond that, there are hundreds of Black women who work their asses off to get a voice in this uber-competitive field but there’s this little thing called WHITE PRIVILEGE THAT MAKES IT KINDA HARD FOR BLACK WOMEN TO RECEIVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AND CHANCES AND CHANCES TO FAIL THAT WHITE WOMEN DO.

3. Charlamagne is Anti-Ciara Twitter personified

CTG is the type of nigga who gets mad at a Black woman for dealing with an ain’t-shit dude and also for moving on from said dude. Basically, he’s chair, CEO, and majority owner of Future Hive.

If a Black women rants regularly in the media, she’s angry. If we move like Gs in silence like lasagna, we’re not being loud enough. For men like him, we can’t ever do right. (Unless you’re his dermatologist. He whips out mentions of homegirl like she’s the token Black best friend.)

Not only do the Donkey Every Day’s comments smack of ignorance, but they display the type of vitriol some Black dudes can have for Black women regardless of what we do. His original tweet–which started the firestorm of clapbacks against him– wasn’t an innocent observation. It was an accusation. Bruh used “woke” in quotes as if we just “play-play” getting angry and starting movements and marching in streets and working in non-profits for his dumbass just for shits and giggles.

Boy just say you don’t like Black women and gone about your day. Save them extras characters on Twitter. It’ll give you more time to re-up your “exfoliation” regimen and fit in with the Tomis of the world. By “exfoliation” I mean “whatever it is you’re doing that is literally and figuratively rubbing off your blackness.”

We got too many folk tryna Dolezal their way into being The African Americans, and we full. Make space.

Malaika Jabali

Malaika Jabali is an attorney, writer, and activist with a J.D. and M.S. from Columbia University. When she's not getting a superfluous amount of degrees, she is defending A.I.'s practice rant, knucking if you bucking, and reviewing the meme calendar to ensure its accuracy. You can follow her on the twitter at @MalaikaJabali.

  • Godsgoodgrace

    I’m gonna dig REAL deep and try to play devils advocate on what he said bc I’m only now seeing it, and by seeing it, I mean his rebuttal to what seems to be our general agreed upon interpretation. IF I take his words at face value, he is saying “we need to create a platform like tomi laurens’ “, then I’m hoping he means create a platform such as blaze. That’s the only way I can justify this based on his prior personification of being semi woke. Of course we still have the Oprahs’ and Tyler Perrys’ who create their own production company, but those two anomaly’s don’t really help the fact of white privilege.

    • He has a platform like Tomi Laurens….

      • YourOpinionisNotAFact

        and uses it to talk shi* about black women. whouda thunk it?

      • Godsgoodgrace

        I’m being very literal in saying I hope he means platform such as a production company like blaze….bc just like the Malaika pointed out…there are far too many woke females speaking their mind for him to ignore. We just haven’t said anything vile and egregious enough to warrant Tomi level audiences and fame. but alas, as long as we keep watching and promoting franchesca on MTV and Issa on HBO then we’ve done our part

        • Professor

          and no not like Blaze because he said no one watches Blaze because it’s a pay service. What she did is something Stephen A is currently stealing. A “final thought” she would upload that on The Book (because again no one watches Blaze) and that circulated amongst the neo Nazis He’s saying we should get behind someone and support them and bring them to an equal level. He acknowledged there were many women doing it but not with the reach of Tomi and he said we need to attack social media to change that

      • Blueberry01

        PREACH.

    • I see your point, but there are things like Feminista Jones and the Crunk Feminist Collective. Even if I don’t see eye to eye with them on everything, it isn’t like it’s five random chicks just reading their stuff. The platform exists. It’s just that a Conventially Attractive White Woman, all else being equal, is going to get more shine.

      • I love Femenista Jones. She can be surprisingly funny.

    • Annalise Keating

      He should know that racism and white supremacy hinders many WOC from getting access to these “traditional” media/news platforms. For this reason many WOC have turned to “non traditional” platforms like podcasting, YouTube, facebook, and other online platforms. The point his opposition has been making is that he is wrong- there are many woke black women getting their voice out there by any means they can. And there are some on “traditional” platform doing that too.

      • Madam CJ_Skywalker

        “He should know that racism and white supremacy hinders many WOC from getting access to these “traditional” media/news platforms. ”

        The problem here is that I don’t think CTG is intelligent enough to understand what racism is. I honestly don’t think he comprehends anything deeper than the surface level.
        I mean his book is titled “Black Privilege: Opportunity Comes to Those Who Create It”. Does he even understand what privilege means, let alone white supremacy?

        • Kylroy

          I remember TNC saying the extent of Black Privilege in his life was being able to listen to Led Zeppelin with an open mind, instead of reflexively hating it because of jerks in high school.

    • Professor

      Okay, I was gonna stay out of this because you all are losing your collective ish like ish collectors with amnesia. Godsgoodgrace he explained it and how you heard it was how he meant it. He said we need to support and bring Feminista Jones and Crunk Feminist collective to them to the level Tomi is on. He is not saying she’s right or she invented anything. He just said we need a equal female representative from the black and latino community that is equal in support and hype to where she is to tell OUR stories. That was what he said. which required more than 140 chracters to properly explain.

  • Val

    Charlemagne is a shock jock. And he knew exactly what he was doing when he made those comments and started sniffing around that woman. And it worked. Everybody is talking about him. In his world that equals a win.

    In the future just treat him like a troll. Let him say whatever crazy thing he wants to say and just totally and completely ignore him. If we, Black women, do that, then just like the troll he is he will go troll elsewhere.

    • The thing is that his been his shtick since his come up with Wendy Williams. He’s everything Wendy has done negatively with none of the positive things, like the entrepreneurship or the music industry chops. I’m glad he’s finally getting his, because I was sick of his mess.

      • Val

        Yeah, he’s annoying and not even in an interesting way. He’s the personification of trite. And the same goes for his former mentor Wendy Williams.

        • Wendy Williams, before she jumped the shark, actually had a great radio show. Even the way she went left, I can only get but so mad at her, because if she didn’t fill that lane, someone else would have. Sad as it is to say, there’s a lane for a woman to talks like that on the radio. Charlamagne has always tried to be a male Wendy Williams, and it just sounds terrible.

          • Tasha Lawrence?

            Nah. He has his own lane. He is not trying to be a male version of her. Nope. Disagree highly on that.

          • Val

            I never listened to her radio show. But I’ve seen her say the exact same kind of shady ish about Black folks just to get a reaction. Remember a couple of months ago when she shaded HBCUs? This Charlemagne stuff is the same garbage way of getting attention.

      • Tasha Lawrence?

        He ain’t getting the short end of the stick. Let’s be real.

    • Freebird

      I understand why folks are pushing back but I think for the mental health of black people this needs to be done. I’m not overly concerned with what white men say about me. Now if they invade my space or come for me…..

      • Val

        I understand too, FB. It’s just that the best way to shut a troll up is to ignore it. All this conversation is just going to feed him. Which means he’s going to come back with more crazy ish because it works for him.

        • Freebird

          Right on V.

    • Cheech

      “And it worked. Everybody is talking about him. In his world that equals a win.”

      Sounds like someone else in the news these days.

      • Kylroy

        When “no such thing as bad press” catapults a cheeto-faced sh*tgibbon into the Oval Office, using it to make bank for your show sounds downright unambitious.

        • I don’t detect any lies there. It’s clear that the crap works, bigly.

          • Negro Libre

            I’m in the wrong business lol.

        • Cheech

          “Cheeto-faced sh*tgibbon”
          *duly stolen*
          (and uncannily accurate)

          • Kylroy

            Not mine originally anyway. Think it may have been one of the Scots chewing him out over his golf course there.

        • Maaaaaaan, you won the innanetz fir the day!!!!

    • Janelle Doe

      I was thinking this from last post and decided if anything on this came around again I would suggest we spend time in the comment section highlighting the key contribution of the Black and Latinx women who are apparently so invisible to some. Maybe that will also help with any trolls and hotels that plan to stop by here through the day.

      • Freebird

        Truth

        • Janelle Doe

          :-) . And to start things off, shout-out to Sarah Hagi

          • Freebird

            This is how we do it.

            I don’t know who she is but do your thing sis.

          • Salute to 3 Sirens Podcast!!!

            • Janelle Doe

              Hi Negra
              *waves.
              have a good weekend. :-)

            • Mary Burrell

              I am always looking for podcasts I will binge listen to them. Thanks for mentioning this.

              • lkeke35

                Try NOC: Nerds of Color.
                The Blerdgirl, on Tumblr and Twitter, she’s cool.

                For reading try BattyMamzelle. She’s like NegrawithTumbao, but spitting hot fire about that “white feminism”.

                • Mary Burrell

                  I have listened to the For Colored Nerds podcast with Brittany and Eric. I will check out Blerdgirl and BattyMamelle. I also like About Race and Tapestry and NPR Codeswitch.

              • It’s good!

      • Blueberry01

        No, it won’t. They avoid the truth because it weakens their argument so they’ll probably just scroll past it.

        I just ignore it.

    • Annalise Keating

      Agreed. Except he has millions of followers and listeners. Some of those are young impressionable black minds that look up to him and believe everything he says. Posts like this can help prevent some of the junk he says from infiltrating their minds.

      • Val

        I hear you but, people who are inclined to listen him probably aren’t inclined to read VSB. But, as I said, your point is taken.

        • Annalise Keating

          I hate to admit this… but I listen to the breakfast club and I read vsb. I know a number of folks who are like me in that respect. We may be the exception. I don’t know. I don’t agree with everything charlamagne says including the comment that is the topic of this discussion. But I find the show is sometimes entertaining. Charlemagne say a lot of nonsense but he also says a lot of smart things.

          • Madam CJ_Skywalker

            I’m right there with you. Avidly ingest both mediums, VSB + BC (and Yee and CTG podcast, altho Brilliant Idiots is getting harder to listen to nowadays)
            I have a STRONG love/hate relationship with CTG. I honestly think of him as a professional troll, altho he’s not as bad as he used to be….

            • Annalise Keating

              Thanks for this comment! I am glad I am not alone….

            • Wizznilliam

              I’m right there with both of yall.. Though less and less recently… Their stupidity may have run it’s course with me, especially with so many serious subjects that have been coming up lately that they sound EXTRA dumb on, like this one.

              • Madam CJ_Skywalker

                Same. Esp that podcast of his….I just can’t anymore

          • Val

            Gotcha.

          • HouseSublime

            Why hate to admit it? I listen to the Breakfast Club, and read VSB and AwesomeLuvvie, and listen to the Read/Drink Champs/Brilliant Idiots, and various forms of media written and audio.

            Often times (especially with Charlamagne) I’ll hear/read points I agree with and other times I’ll hear/read points I disagree with. I think shutting out media that I don’t agree with is just doing myself a disservice. I’d rather hear it all and then decide for myself how to take something.

            • Annalise Keating

              I hate to admit it because charlagmagne says the most aggravating things sometimes?….like the comment that is the topic of this thread.

              But I agree with you. Like you I like to hear different points of view. With the exception of AwesomeLuvvie. No shade. More power to her and her fans. I don’t read her blog because I don’t find her funny, original, or even intellectually stimulating. But I have have a weird sense of humor. Well, actually, I am just weird.

        • lkeke35

          I see your point. I wanna ignore them too. Our younger ones may not read VSB , but they do have Twitter accounts and are on Tumblr. When they see the clapbacks from other black people it’s a good check on them developing foolish ideas, I hope.

          You wouldn’t believe the sheer amount of dumb white kids all over Twitter and Tumblr who were just not getting checked for the stupidity that they’ve picked up somewhere, and then when they do, usually by a Black person, they surprised, and shocked. We can try to prevent that level of Toni f on happening to our own by clapping back on the CTGs of the world, maybe.

    • Brown Rose

      But guys like him don’t shut up. No race of people does this as often as Black people. Its embarrassing.

      • Val

        I’m really not sure if that’s true, BR. I just think we are tuned into what’s said about us.

        • Brown Rose

          We are tuned in more to racial nuance, but I just don’t see this blatant and public displays of contempt from other races. Asians of various ethnicities are good examples. I never hear them denounce each other in such a blatant way like we do.

          • Val

            “I’m an Asian Woman and I Refuse to Ever Date an Asian Man” http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/asian-woman-dating-asian-men-jenny-an

            “I Feel Disgusted When I Look at Asian Men” http://isitnormal.com/story/i-feel-disgusted-when-i-look-at-asian-men-69723/

            • Brown Rose

              I know about those Asian women who do this. its not the same. We have a history of shaming each other for public consumption. Respectability politics, was created to lengthen that shame.

              • Betty’s Babygirl

                BR you’re making a false equivalence. You cannot compare apples and oranges. And imop you should NEVER compare Resilients to any other group. Most Asian cultures value conformity not open individuality. It’s considered disrespectful. No shade but you would be a good candidate for The Resiliency Compound. There you would learn the history of Resilients and why we sometimes have discord.

            • La Bandita

              AW are equal to BM conduits for White supremacy.

            • I was gonna say Asian woman marry the shyt outta white dudes.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      It worked for Stern

      • Kylroy

        …until he retreated into satellite radio and rebranded himself as a long-form interviewer. Man’s career arc has been weird.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Fame, notoriety, money,, respectability

          • Kylroy

            Yeah. Think CtG will get there in another 20 years?

      • Cheech

        And Limbaugh, who doesnt even acknowledge it’s schtick.

    • Malaika Jabali

      this was more about me denouncing dudes like Charlamagne who uphold white supremacy while maligning black women than Charlamagne himself.

      I will always feel passionately about clapping back at those who consistently have that message, regardless of the messenger.

      Yes he does it to be shocking, but I truly believe he believes what he says about black women. And too many black men get away with misogynoir unchecked.

      I typically don’t pay him any mind. but his comments were just too wrong for me to ignore. just like literally, factually incorrect.

      • Kylroy

        “Misogynoir” – typo, or brilliance?

      • I, totally, got it!

      • Val

        I understand. And this wasn’t aimed at you. These guys thrive on attention. everything they do is to be heard. So, imagine if someone like him made a crazy comment about us and there were no clapbacks. No twitter wars. No think pieces. Just silence.

        Attention is like oxygen for him and those of his ilk. So why not take their oxygen away? They’d have to find a new target or they’d suffocate. That’s all I’m saying.

        • Wise Old Owl

          Val, this is not about you or directed to you, because I know where your heart and mind is at on issues that affect and impact the Black Community and Black Women, this is for the Sisters, who truly seem to hate Black Men and constantly use this site as a venue to vent and attack Black Men. For example, is Wendy Williams guilty of Misandrynoir, because she dumps on Black Men everyday…For a site to be called verysmartbrothas, it is not too uplifting or positive for Black Men…it seems daily that on the site blogs are posted that argue or imply that Black Men ain’t $hit and are the root cause of the all the issues in the Black Community and that we hate Black Women. A deeper and more critical analysis will show that a few dumb Black male celebrities and entertainers do not speak for the vast majority of Black Men, the same way Azelia Banks, Amber Rose, Wendy Williams and Black Chyna don’t speak for Black Women…I don’t cape for Becky, but I know quite a few, who hate Rachel Dozelle, but love Robin Thicke and Gary Owens…I am going to continue to love, respect, and honor my Beautiful Black Wife, and all Black Women…even the ones, who hate and despise me, because I am a Black Man…a depressed Black Man…

          • Blueberry01

            But if the aintsh*tness doesn’t apply to you then why are you upset?

            This is a space for us to be honest about our experiences – both male and female. If it doesn’t apply to you, don’t trip.

            • Wise Old Owl

              Because, it applies to me…far too often, All Black Men are accused of being ain’t $hit negus, PhucckBoys, Black Women haters and etc, because some D-list entertainer, radio host or washed up rapper caped for Becky or said something foul about Black Women. Moreover, this is not a place for us to be honest about our feelings when it comes to analyzing or critiquing Black Women…we are only allowed to critique and analyze the failings of Black Men…when is the last time a blog has been posted that was critical of a Black Woman…or accused Black Women of hating Black Men. I am still awaiting a think piece on Azzela Banks and Madiamnoire for their daily attacks on Black Men…however, we both know that we are not allowed to discuss openly and honestly the Misandrynoir against Black Men by certain Black Male, Female and White Female and Male writers and bloggers…the message is clear, heterosexual, masculine Black Men ain’t $hit…except for their eggplants on MCM…

              • Mary Burrell

                Well if you are not one of these malignancies don’t trip about it.

                • Wise Old Owl

                  I feel you…just don’t want Sisters to think that the majority of Brothers hate, dislike, abuse and disregard them in order to become SuperNegus to cape for Becky and them….Sadly, I think the daily Gender War Blogs are assisting to create a growing divide amongst Sisters and Brothers, who lack the critical thinking skills to recognize the propaganda…I will be the first to state that Brothers must do better by the Greatest Gift the Creator Gave the World…The Black Woman…However, I just ask Sisters to decipher the difference between Black Men and clowns wearing masks…

                  • CozyVon

                    I think this is a fair request. And IMO there is merit in what you’re saying.

                    In all fairness to my sistas–isn’t this very post an example of a non-ratchet sista calling out anti-BW sentiment? So under the “if it don’t apply to you why you mad?” reasoning, this article shouldn’t even exist, no?

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      You are very correct, however, we both know it exists, because it is yet another opportunity to bring out the Black Men ain’t $hit and hate Black Women trope…it is pure click bait and agenda pushing…like I said, where is the Wendy Williams, Azelia Banks and Madamenoire think pieces, because they $hit on Black Men every opportunity they get and blame us for all the sins under the sun…when Kayne meets with Trump, it is yet another example of Black Men seeking validation and acceptance from whites, yet when Omorosa and Stacy Dash campaigned and endorsed Trump, it was just Omorosa being Omorosa and Stacy being clueless, not an example of Black Women seeking validation and acceptance from whites or numerous think pieces on Black blogs such as Ebony, The Root and The Grio claiming that Black Women seek validation from white folks the way Kayne’s meeting produced…I Wonder Why….

              • Blueberry01

                “Because, it applies to me…far too often, All Black Men are accused of being ain’t $hit negus, PhucckBoys, Black Women haters and etc, because some D-list entertainer, radio host or washed up rapper caped for Becky or said something foul about Black Women.”

                I’m sorry that this has happened to you. We here at VSB sling our deragatory terms responsibility – and accurately at the desired targets with receipts to back up our claims. Please don’t ever feel that you’re being lumped into one group because you’re not.

                “Moreover, this is not a place for us to be honest about our feelings when it comes to analyzing or critiquing Black Women…we are only allowed to critique and analyze the failings of Black Men…when is the last time a blog has been posted that was critical of a Black Woman…or accused Black Women of hating Black Men.”

                Are you new?

                If so, feel free to read the post on Issa Rae’s relationship with Lawrence, which was posted last week. That will give you a taste that all analyses and critiques of BOTH genders of the African Diaspora matter here at VSB.

                And if your thirst is still not quenched after reading almost 2000 posts, feel free to submit something to VSB. (You sound like you have a lot on your mind.)

                Or, you can do like everyone else does and interject an irrelevant comment within an open thread. Trust me, someone will respond or come out of lurkdom just for you. (It’s almost like your initiation, if you will. ?)

                “I am still awaiting a think piece on Azzela Banks and Madiamnoire for their daily attacks on Black Men…however, we both know that we are not allowed to discuss openly and honestly the Misandrynoir against Black Men by certain Black Male, Female and White Female and Male writers and bloggers”

                Welp. If you critique it, you should correct it.

                I believe that we did have an AB post a while back when she was beefing with Iggy. (You can search the archives for that.)

                I doubt that they’ll have a post dissecting another blog. That would be unnecessary and in bad taste, in my opinion. If you don’t like MN (or any other blog), don’t add to their traffic.

                “however, we both know that we are not allowed to discuss openly and honestly the Misandrynoir against Black Men by certain Black Male, Female and White Female and Male writers and bloggers.”

                I don’t agree with this. There was a heated discussion not too long ago regarding misandrynoir. I can’t remember the name of the exact post at the moment, though.

                However, you can always submit a new post or hijack a current post with your thoughts.

                “the message is clear, heterosexual, masculine Black Men ain’t $hit…except for their eggplants on MCM…”

                This isn’t the corresponding blog for Black Twitter. Goodnight.

                • Wise Old Owl

                  Good Morning and Thanks for the reply…I am not new, been reading for over 2 years and commenting for about a year. I read and commented on the numerous Issa-Lawrence-Insecure pieces..even the one trying to argue that Lawrence was not a Good Guy…and I agree, the majority of comments were team Lawrence, however, there were quite a bit of Team Issa arguments, when in fact Issa was clearly wrong. Heck, as a Black Man, I even related to her character because she reminded me of female friends and relatives and at times myself, however, I still acknowledge she phuccked up by cheating on Lawrence.
                  Also, yes, I do have a lot to say and I am thinking about submitting a few articles and think pieces to the site.
                  My concern is that the Black Community is engaged in a full on Social Media War…first it was Team Light Skin vs. Team Dark Skin and now it seems to be a Gender War…In my humble opinion, the divisive tone of many articles and blogs work to further divide the community and shifts the focus off the real enemies of the community….I understand the community is not monolithic and we not all going to agree on each and every topic or issue that affects the community…yet we can be more civil to those who we disagree with and respect their opinion and analysis…

                  • Blueberry01

                    “and I agree, the majority of comments were team Lawrence, however, there were quite a bit of Team Issa arguments, when in fact Issa was clearly wrong. ”

                    This is your personal opinion, which is fine to have. However, please note that others may not share the same views.

                    “My concern is that the Black Community is engaged in a full on Social Media War…first it was Team Light Skin vs. Team Dark Skin and now it seems to be a Gender War…In my humble opinion, the divisive tone of many articles and blogs work to further divide the community and shifts the focus off the real enemies of the community”

                    But, I’ve never personally seen posts line this on VSB. (I have on MN, though.) Not to say that we don’t discuss colorism or gender, because we do. But, in my opinion, it come across as intellectual discourse.

                    You can’t judge a blog or post based upon the passionate responses of the community. People (typically) speak from direct experiences so if there seems to be polarizing topics, such as gender and colorism, then this blog is a platform to discuss our viewpoints.

                    ” …yet we can be more civil to those who we disagree with and respect their opinion and analysis…”

                    I absolutely agree, WOO. I’ve had to check a couple people on that. Feel free to check me if I ever get out of pocket, too.

                  • Blueberry01

                    “Heck, as a Black Man, I even related to her character because she reminded me of female friends and relatives and at times myself, however, I still acknowledge she phuccked up by cheating on Lawrence.”

                    Based on what I’ve seen, their relationship seemed unhealthy from the start. I can’t fully comment, though, as I haven’t seen all of the episodes.

                    I don’t condone cheating (by any party) for any reason. It’s easier to leave if you’re unhappy than selfishly entertain, intiate, engage, and maintain an extra-relational affair.

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      Before my wife lays hands on me, I relate to Issa’s characters insecurity, public interest career, love of Hip Hop, and trifling friends, not her cheating. Further, between Insecure and Atlanta, there has been a rebirth in quality and relatable Black shows with realistic plots and actors, who actually look like everyday Black Folks…I watched the first 5 episodes of Queen Sugar and I couldn’t take it any longer….the show is set in South Louisiana and New Orleans, however it didn’t touch on Colorism and the Creole Caste, which is the root of New Orleans and Louisiana culture…the show discussed everything else…Racism, plight of Black Farmers, sibling rivalry, prison industrial complex, interracial dating, rape culture in athletics, cheating spouses, vodoo and unfair drug laws…but not Colorism and the Creole Caste of New Orleans….I Wonder Why….

                    • Blueberry01

                      “Before my wife lays hands on me,..”

                      Should I be calling 911?

                      “Further, between Insecure and Atlanta, there has been a rebirth in quality and relatable Black shows with realistic plots and actors, who actually look like everyday Black Folks…”

                      Yo, I slept on Atlanta! But I happened to catch the first episode and I was good!!! I won’t have time to binge watch the rest until the weekend, but I’m looking forward to it.

                      “I watched the first 5 episodes of Queen Sugar and I couldn’t take it any longer….the show is set in South Louisiana and New Orleans, however it didn’t touch on Colorism and the Creole Caste, which is the root of New Orleans and Louisiana culture…the show discussed everything else…Racism, plight of Black Farmers, sibling rivalry, prison industrial complex, interracial dating, rape culture in athletics, cheating spouses, vodoo and unfair drug laws…but not Colorism and the Creole Caste of New Orleans….I Wonder Why….”

                      I honestly haven’t seen QS, but that d*mn Kofi Soriboe gives me a cavity, just looking at his chocolate self! I’m going to focus on Atlanta first then give QS a try.

                      On QS, do they act like on Haves and the Have Nots? That show irked me; it felt like a daytime soap opera.

                      Interesting, in terms of colorism, I could venture that Ms. Duvernay may not be ready to tackle that issue herself. No shade to those who read this, but I find that light-skinned people are a little resistant to talk about the (implicit and explicit) privilege that they receive due to their skin color. In my experience, their skin color issue mainly revolves around how others don’t view them as black people, too.

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      My wife is good, she knows that I only has eyes and hands for her….
                      Yes, Atlanta is the best show I have seen in quite a while…I slept on the first episode, so I can promise you that it gets even better with each episode. I feel similar regarding Insecure…love the realistic looking actors and relatable plots. The writers and actors on both shows did an excellent job of showing a Black reality and humanity that is often missing in Pop Culture….
                      QS actors, especially the Black Male actors were cast for their abs and overall physical appearance rather than their acting skills, so yes, the acting leaves a lot to be desired…I love Sister Duvernay, however, she appears to be afraid or unwilling to discuss Colorism and Creole Caste, unlike every other ism and issue she freely tackles such as racism, sexism and same gender and interracial relationships…I agree with your take, many Light Skin folks regardless of race, similar to Males regardless of race, refuse to or are uncomfortable acknowledging their privilege…

                    • Blueberry01

                      “My wife is good, she knows that I only has eyes and hands for her….”

                      Awwwwww…..?

                      “I feel similar regarding Insecure…”

                      I’m biased because I thought Insecure would be like Awkward Black Girl, so it didn’t meet my expectations. However, I do like how they display the complexities of AA relationships – and all that beautiful black chex didn’t hurt. #Lawrence

                      “QS actors, especially the Black Male actors were cast for their abs and overall physical appearance rather than their acting skills, so yes, the acting leaves a lot to be desired…”

                      We have been deprived of beautiful selection of chocolate for quite some time now. I may have to give her a pass on this one…lol! #KofiIfYouWere10YearsOlder

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      Every Black Romantic Comedy…heck every Black Movie has either Morris, Taye, Boris, Michael, Shemar, or Idris walking around with their shirts off so you have not been too deprived of Chocolate….lol

                      Also, on QS two of the Black Male characters are light skin…she even brought back “Robert” from the Cosby Show to be the perfect guy…although he can’t act at all, he has abs…

                      Yes, the chex on Insecure was a beautiful site…rarely do we see Black Women and Men having chex, making love, phuckking and even kissing on screen…it more interracial chex, than Beautiful Black Bodies enjoying each other for our delight…also, I know Issa may think that she is awkward, but her Senegal Beauty shines through and she is truly sexy to me….just saying…Hopefully, we can see Lawrence put in work with her next season in a wild episode of make up chex…#Black Chex…

                    • Blueberry01

                      But where was the delectable chocolate every week at 10p.m.? We’ve been thirsty to say the least.

                      Yeah, that Lawrence/Tasha scene ?…#RoundOfApplause

                      I wonder if the deleted scenes or extended cut is available.

                      Yeah, Issa is pretty. I also enjoyed seeing normal black romantic behavior, you know? It makes you feel good, as a viewer, seeing us represented normally – albeit through dysfunctional relationships – but the chex was normal.

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      That’s what I like most about the show, it made me feel good to see us in all our glory…warts and all, just being our normal selves…most relationships are dysfunctional on some levels, so I enjoyed that aspect of the show…I have friends, family members, colleagues, Frats, and associates similar to all of the male and female characters on the show…especially Lawrence, I think we all know Brothers just like him and thus the support and love for his character…

                    • Blueberry01

                      “I have friends, family members, colleagues, Frats, and associates similar to all of the male and female characters on the show…especially Lawrence, I think we all know Brothers just like him and thus the support and love for his character…”

                      Where did you say you lived, again? Lol.

                      Oh, you’re Greek? That explains your overly aggressive nature to some of my questions.

                      Let me guess…APhiA?

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      LOL…guilty as charged…and to protect the not so innocent…I have lived in major cities in the Southwest and Midwest….

                      And I don’t think I am overly aggressive, just often far too passionate about issues that affect and impact the Black Community…further, my emotions stem from the fact that the vast majority of Brothers I know, including myself, truly love, appreciate, respect and honor Sisters, so it is annoying to be constantly objected to the Black Blogasphere’s daily claim that negus ain’t $hit, all love Becky and most importantly hate their Black Mommas and all Black Women…this $hit is exhausting…don’t matter the site, the Root, essence, ebony, the Grio, Madiamnoire, bossip, etc…all have the same agenda and message…negus ain’t $hit…it seems that they all have a resident blogger, rather male or female, who truly needs therapy for their hatred of Black Males…

                    • Blueberry01

                      “And I don’t think I am overly aggressive, just often far too passionate about issues that affect and impact the Black Community…”

                      Greek Passion = Non-Greek Aggression

                      “…further, my emotions stem from the fact that the vast majority of Brothers I know, including myself, truly love, appreciate, respect and honor Sisters, so it is annoying to be constantly objected to the Black Blogasphere’s daily claim that negus ain’t $hit”

                      But that doesn’t happen here – well, at least that’s not the consensus. Don’t project your previous negative experiences onto this blog. Take a deep breath and don’t ignite at the first comment that doesn’t celebrate AA manhood. You can’t get upset that people share their negative experiences.

                      We wouldn’t (and don’t) get mad when you share yours…

                      “…this $hit is exhausting…don’t matter the site, the Root, essence, ebony, the Grio, Madiamnoire, bossip, etc…all have the same agenda and message…negus ain’t $hit…”

                      Then don’t frequent their sites, WOO. Stop looking for oranges on an apple tree. If none of those sites meet your needs, stroll out as you say, “Yo baby, yo baby, yo”.

                      “it seems that they all have a resident blogger, rather male or female, who truly needs therapy for their hatred of Black Males…”

                      Well, now you know that God wasn’t lying when He stated that the Devil will always be present. I’mma need you to shake some of this off, WOO, and stop internalizing every negative comment – especially those that don’t pertain to you…

                      …and tell one of your cute line brothers or Frat to slide in my DMs…lol

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      Will take your advice…no need to get my pressure up over Internet drama…
                      What is your type and where are you located…for those DMs to be slid into…

                    • Blueberry01

                      Oh ish…you finna to set me up forreal? :sprays perfume just in case he has someone local: ?

                      Lol, nah forreal, I wouldn’t say that I have a type, persay, as much as the three character traits that I look for when I consider whether to continue dating a man.

                      1) Evident Relationship With God – I do believe in God and I value my relationship with Him. I would not be the BB01 that you read before you today without His transformative power. As such, I need a man to believes in the same for his own life. We wouldn’t operate from the same principles if he didn’t.

                      2) Values Education – I love to learn and I want someone who values that as well. He doesn’t necessarily have to have taken the formal educational route; but, he does have to value the growth as a result of learning and strive to continuously do so. No one knows everything on every topic, so it’s important to be open to honing your skills when necessary.

                      3) Healthy Living – Having an enjoyable life is a direct result of having a healthy one, in my opinion. Thus, I want a man who actively practices healthy living (e.g. eating, exercise, emotional/spiritual/psychological health). Not only will he have a better life, we’ll both enjoy our relationship together.

                      Oh yeah, as far as looks, I like a nice smile, clean cut with facial hair (beard and moustache connecting, if possible), low cut hair or bald, his height is unimportant, but I want his weight to be within his BMI. Plus, a man that is confident in his fashion sense. Not necessarily into expensive clothes, but clothes that complements his body well and he feels confident in wearing.

                      I’m in the DMV currently…

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      You have your self a nice little list…love a Sista with standards, who knows what she wants in a partner…how long do you plan to stay in the DMV…have folks in the area…you seem like a lot of fun…

                    • Blueberry01

                      Thanks, WOO!

                      Honestly, not too long. Hopefully I’ll be gone within the next six months. I’m looking to relocate to NYC.

                      Well, thanks for the compliment, but I’m not ready to reveal my identity just yet. Just tell me where your folks stay; who knows, I may just happen to frequent those parts.? (And yes, I can spot a Nupe a mile away. Y’all are so d*mn loud. Lol.)

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      Slander….who said I was a Nupe…

                    • Blueberry01

                      Sorry, WOO. I’m not Greek so I accidentally got my nicknames wrong. What’s the nickname for an Alpha?

                    • FromTokyo

                      “…Colorism and the Creole Caste, which is the root of New Orleans and Louisiana culture…”

                      I’m Louisiana, born and raised, north and south Louisiana, including New Orleans, and I’m confused by this statement. Not saying colorism doesn’t exist, but sounds like you’re talking about some very specific circle where it’s at a higher pitch than it is in the AA community elsewhere. Granted, I don’t consider myself Creole, so maybe that community is upholding the standards of old to this day (?).

            • Akhibrass

              This argument can be applied to Charlemagne’s comments as well. If you aren’t one of the black women he was referencing than don’t trip.
              See how that sounds?

              • Strawberry03

                But C stated that black woke women needed to be supported more (presumably by the black community), so they could have a platform like TL. We DO support black woke women, yet they still don’t have a platform like TL.

                I’m not sure if I follow what you’re trying to suggest. Could you please restate it?

          • Freebird

            I think you should keep talking. While overall this is as supportive of a space you will find online I’m confident you are not the only man who feels this way.

            • Wise Old Owl

              Thanks and I plan on talking…for the most part, VSB is a supportive site…however, at times certain commenters try their best to shut down Black Men, who question or disagree with their group think negus ain’t $hit trope…

              • Thanks for articulating what I’ve been saying for awhile, I like visiting this site because of the different articles by black people and for black people but this site definitely caters to black women(nothing wrong with that) and I feel sometime are afraid of going outside of the group thinking of the posters. I look forward to reading one of your articles on here.

                • Wise Old Owl

                  You are welcome and I agree with your analysis of the site…I respect and appreciate the majority of the writers, because you can feel that they care about the community and giving a platform for Folks to discuss issues that affect and impact us…However, the site is caters to Black women or doesn’t want to offend them again… and like you said, nothing is wrong with that…but we already have Bossip, Madiamnoire, Essence, The Root, The Grio and Ebony that all cater to Black women….is there a non Hotep or non hip hop site that either caters to Black Men or is an equal opportunity offender? I just know that there are unique issues that impact Black Men other than which shaving products to buy and basketball…

                  • I don’t think so, but this is the best out of the bunch, even with the fake uproar about that white chick is out of control, people forget Oprah had kkk members on her show back in the days or Bill Oreilly going on the daily show when Jon Stewart was there people want to mute out whatever they feel uncomfortable with but act surprised when things like the “alt-right” is becoming mainstream news.

                    • Wise Old Owl

                      It is definitely the best of the bunch and overall a great site…just wish more Very Smart Brothas would feel more comfortable expression themselves and their unique analysis as Black Men without fear and backlash…

        • Blueberry01

          “Attention is like oxygen for him and those of his ilk. So why not take their oxygen away? They’d have to find a new target or they’d suffocate. That’s all I’m saying.”

          Truth.

    • Mary Burrell

      I didn’t see your comment we are on the same page about ignoring this imbecile.

    • BrownKitty289

      Yup, exactly!

    • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      Exactly Sister.

    • Truth0312

      Agreed. He constantly admits to selling wolf tix. I refuse to give this ignorant negro any more press than he already has just like his “alt-right” Barbie doll.

    • La Bandita

      Val for our new Lady President of the Comments!!

      • Val

        Lol Hi, La Bandita. Nope, not me. :-)

  • Gibbous

    “Dolezal their way into being The African Americans”

    DEAD!

  • catgee12

    I know this is your job so I won’t knock your hustle, but this is part of the problem. Doing think pieces and analyzing the thoughts and things that Charlamagne says. Fuq him and keep it pushing. This gives him just what he is looking for attention. Not worth the time or energy …

    • Tasha Lawrence?

      Exactly.

    • Kylroy

      From Tomi to Char to VSB, this idiotic crap is colonizing the mental space of progressively smarter people.

    • Malaika Jabali

      It’s not my job actually. I’ve got more than enough on my plate. And it took only a fraction of time out of my day. I rarely, if ever, give 2 sh*ts about Charlamagne. I addressed it because he’s promoting white supremacy. I will confront someone on that regardless of who it is.

      • Brown Rose

        Agree. Even though racism is a mainstay in America and across the globe, tt doesn’t matter what package its in–it needs to be confronted.

      • La Bandita

        You did a great job.

        • Malaika Jabali

          preciate cha

      • Annalise Keating

        Excellent piece BTW.

        • Malaika Jabali

          stank you!

      • Blueberry01

        Excellent post!

  • brothaskeeper

    They look like the interracial couple you see at the mall, and he’s too ashamed to hold her hand in public, and she calls him the N-word when they smash.

    • Val

      Lol

    • Malaika Jabali

      goodBYE sir

      lmaooo

    • I know that dude very well. Since my past in the swirl is in the open, they assume that I’m mentally on that BS. Nope. Call me the N-word, and no mo’ chocolate for you. I’m not down for hating on Black chicks because of your issues.

    • *CRIES in fetish pron* LMAO

    • mr. steal your costco samples

      see nah i couldn’t eem contemplate that word in the sack. it would go from day to night like Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest

      • Kylroy

        …but can you contemplate Castlevania in the sack?

      • La Bandita

        Idk i

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      Be the type to talk about their great secks lives but treat each other like failed abortions in public. Ugh.

    • LadiDD

      She needs to be 100lbs heavier though.

      • brothaskeeper

        ?????

      • Mary Burrell

        ???

      • Annalise Keating

        ???? soooo wrong yet soooo right…..

    • La Bandita

      There’s an article at xojane about a WM that was dating a rapper and she called him the n-word when they….smashed? She said since he was famous and she wasn’t it evened it out.

      • brothaskeeper

        SMH. We’re such a forgiving people. LoL

      • Mary Burrell

        I remember reading some years ago about a BW who’s husband called her this during their love making. And there are those folks who have those Mandingo fetishes. Some even like to act out 12 years A Slave scene with Lupita’s Patsy character for WM who fetishize black women.

        • La Bandita

          That turned out to be false. It was on the root. And that same fake article kept circulating. I’m talking regular life of any BM that dated a WM. The BM from TMZ said a WM called him the n word while giving him head. You don’t have to go to fetish sights to find this out. And race play as its called is racist.

    • Mary Burrell

      That’s funny ???

  • miss t-lee

    I’ve already hit my quota for discussing this f*cknugget for the month, so I’ma leave that to y’all.

    • Tasha Lawrence?

      But really there is no discussion to be had. I’m perplexed.

      • miss t-lee

        I’ve said all I’ve needed to say. Feelings ain’t changed since earlier in the week…lol

    • Mary Burrell

      Cackling at f*nugget.???

      • lkeke35

        Mary, u on here enjoying these drags! I’m gonna take some of these back to my blog tho’.

        • Mary Burrell

          Yes I am enjoying the drags they make me laugh.

          • truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

            Exactly. Black people know how to use wit and Charlemagne is the epitome of ignorant behavior.

  • Tasha Lawrence?

    What happened to the monthly e-harmony feature, where a choosee, would submit to get chosen?

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      Cuffing season!

  • Janelle Doe

    Frank Ocean says he has Kaepernicked the Grammys fam. Is that even a thing?

    • Kylroy

      First I’ll need to know what “Kaepernicked” means. He…kneeled at them?

      • He intentionally didn’t submit anything to the Grammy’s for consideration because he feels that they don’t reward Black artists for their work even when they put out the best in whatever given year. He’s “taking a knee” if you will.

        • Kylroy

          Ahah. Thank you.

        • La Bandita

          I like your responses Ricky. You can’t be handsome and smart at the same time…pick a struggle – ha!

    • Reemo

      He sure did because both of them have pooped the bed this year

  • HouseOfBonnets

    I just want y’all to go forth an prosper with Laura and be the best ashy Larry you can be at this point, I’m over it and the bm that don’t want to understand.

  • Miss QT Pie

    According to an African proverb, “You can’t be both dumb and ugly. Pick a struggle.” This was all I needed. Thank you, from the depths of my heart.

    • Kim

      lmao

    • lkeke35

      That’s what got me!???

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