Theory & Essay

Can Obama Save Marriage, the Economy, AND DIVORCE?

Let’s HOPE HE CAN!

As America and Washington, DC, gear up for the inauguration and the next four years of a Barack Obama presidency, we’re mired in a recession of tremendous proportions.  Blow.er.

Well, the economy is SO BAD, people can’t even afford to get a damn divorce anymore!

To wit:

With nearly one in six homes worth less than the mortgage owed on it, according to Moody’s Economy.com, divorce lawyers and financial advisors throughout the country say the logistics of divorce have been turned around.

“We used to fight about who gets to keep the house,” said Gary Nickelson, president of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers. “Now we fight about who gets stuck with the dead cow.”

As a result, divorce has become more complicated and often more expensive, with lower prospects for money on the other side. Some divorce lawyers say that business has slowed down, or that clients are deciding to stay together because there are no assets left to help them start over.

If that ain’t a reason to be ready for Bush to get.the.f*ck.on. then I don’t know what is.  It’s so bad, folks are being forced to stay together because they’re essentially not worth crap and nobody wants to not be worth crap.  It’s like, craptastic.

In a normal economy, couples typically build equity in their homes, then divide that equity in a divorce, either after selling the house or with one partner buying out the other’s share. But after the recent boom and bust cycle, more couples own houses that neither spouse can afford to maintain, and that they cannot sell for what they owe on it. For couples already under stress, the family home has become a toxic asset.

You know what must suck?  Paying a $350K mortgage on a home that’s now only worth $280K.  But you know what sucks more than that AND Olivia Fox?  A de-valued home AND marriage and having no way in Hell of getting out of either.  And don’t get it twisted, these couples aren’t going to be forced to “work it out” and continue on with their marriage.  If anything, I’m guessing people will begin to hate eachother even more (assuming its reached non-amicable proportions) because not only is the love and thrill gone, but there’s no real money anymore either.  No lovin’ and no dividends?

Somebody might get OJ’d.

I’m not an advocate for divorce, but I’m also not the biggest advocate for marriage (though I’m all for anybody who’s really ready for it and is committed to staying that way).  Though I recognize the advantages of marriage, there’s a reason so many people end up in divorce:  I don’t think its hard enough to get married.  All you basically have to do is show up somewhere and you can lock yourself into the worst situation of your life.  Word to my brother.  I think if folks really had to prove to one another that they actually wanted to be married for the right reasons, marriages would probably last longer.

But as it is, that’s not the case right now.

And as that is, I do happen to believe that sometimes, two people really don’t belong together and when that time comes, it just may be necessary to sever ties.  If you didn’t try to make it work, well bully on you; however, that’s not my fight.  But imagine that you’ve exhausted all outlets short of BBJ himself coming down and fixing it and you’ve both resolved that its best to go your separate ways…

…but the economy has made it so that you can’t even afford to move on.  Let’s just hope we don’t hear about people flying off of balconies in the near future.

Word to Stanley Reimer.

We thought we needed Obama to forge the road for Black people, and we think he just might do wonders for Black love, but the economy needs him for more than just that.  We need him to help restore order to the marital order of things.

We need Obama to restore our 50 percent divorce rate so people can be happy again.

Obama, are you up for it?

Are you?!?!

-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P

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Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future.

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Last Night.

  • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

    I didn’t even read the post yet! I just wanted to be FIRST!! My 2009 is starting RIGHT!! YES!!! Now to read the post…

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

      @pgh muse,

      Aight, this ‘first’ business is getting a little ri-gatdang-diculous. People aren’t even reading the post and making relevant comments. I swear, the person who does the first “First!!!” post is going have to take up permanent residence in the Sat Down Corner.

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @blackberry molasses, i agree.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          awwww Liz, good to see ya!

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @Gem of the Ocean, Hahah thanks!!! I be lurkin.

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @Gem of the Ocean, Hahah thanks!!! I be lurkin.

        • Gem of the Ocean

          awwww Liz, good to see ya!

      • http://lizburr.com Liz

        @blackberry molasses, i agree.

      • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

        @blackberry molasses,

        Bwahahaha… AWWW BB Mo’! I don’t be on here late all the time!! Can i get a pass for tonight?? Please?

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @pgh muse,

          yes. just one though

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @pgh muse,

          yes. just one though

        • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

          @ the first commentary,

          I personally think it’s all in good fun and would be crazy flattered if people stayed up to try to comment first on my blog… or got in line… is my comment decreasing bandwidth space or something? this is a BLOG… a very lighthearted, playful blog at times… just my opinion. my .02…

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @pgh muse,

            I personally think it’s all in good fun and would be crazy flattered if people stayed up to try to comment first on my blog

            i actually agree with you. the “first” sh*t doesnt bother me at all

            • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

              @The Champ,

              thanks and shyt, The Champ. Can I get a free VSB tshirt or something?

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                @pgh muse,

                no

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                @pgh muse,

                no

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ The Champ,

                lol… say it again!

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ The Champ,

                lol… say it again!

            • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

              @The Champ,

              thanks and shyt, The Champ. Can I get a free VSB tshirt or something?

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @pgh muse,

            I personally think it’s all in good fun and would be crazy flattered if people stayed up to try to comment first on my blog

            i actually agree with you. the “first” sh*t doesnt bother me at all

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @pgh muse, the champ and i talked about this before and though it ain’t that big a deal, i’m not sure how flattered anybody should be about it.

            for one, it aint like folks are lining up to be the first person to READ and then offer a substantive comment, its just lining up to be first, period. and it has nothing to do specifically with VSB.com. this just so happens to be the blog that you’re frequenting to do it on. it could just as easily be any other blog. being first has nothing to do with the post at hand. so for me, i can’t say i’m flattered by it being as it being first has nothing to do with the posts we even write. being first is just something folks race to do…just because. though it doesnt take anything away from the blog, it doesn’t add anything either.

            it just is.

            you’re right though, the blog is playful and lighthearted, so it aint killing anybody. but i’d be careful to try to attach much deeper meaning to folks attempts to be “first”. its just being “first” for “first’s sake”.

            • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

              @Panama Jackson,

              I’m saying PJ, whoever’s lined up to be first is getting u hits, which increases your blogs popularity, and the potential for ad revenue… I’m not trying to attach a deeper meaning. I’m saying I would be completely flattered by the popularity of my blog… and even more that people make an effort to participate. In whatever respect that they do. Isn’t a “first” post better than no post at all? Someone may come out of lurking (and I think it has happened since I’ve been following this blog) to post first. I think it’s cute. And it’s not like there aren’t plenty of substantive comments. This is once again just my .02.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                @ pgh muse, i seriously doubt folks lining up to say “first” is doing anything for our ad revenue. look, am i flattered by the popularity of our blog? of course, and i thank everybody for coming thru; without you all our site wouldn’t be squat. and granted, there are much bigger issues in the world to deal with. but since this has come up as a topic of discussion, let me ask you this:

                what exactly IS the point of being first, if all you have to say is “first”?

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                @ pgh muse, i seriously doubt folks lining up to say “first” is doing anything for our ad revenue. look, am i flattered by the popularity of our blog? of course, and i thank everybody for coming thru; without you all our site wouldn’t be squat. and granted, there are much bigger issues in the world to deal with. but since this has come up as a topic of discussion, let me ask you this:

                what exactly IS the point of being first, if all you have to say is “first”?

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ Panama,

                There really isn’t much of a point. Personally it’s just shyts and giggles to me… when i’m on VSB honestly i’m usually procrastinating and wasting time. It’s a diversion from working. Doing what I should be doing. Although I find VSB to be a very thought provoking diversion at times, at other times it’s pure sugar… just for fun. That’s the point to me. It was like a little race and I won… nothing more, nothing less.

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ Panama,

                There really isn’t much of a point. Personally it’s just shyts and giggles to me… when i’m on VSB honestly i’m usually procrastinating and wasting time. It’s a diversion from working. Doing what I should be doing. Although I find VSB to be a very thought provoking diversion at times, at other times it’s pure sugar… just for fun. That’s the point to me. It was like a little race and I won… nothing more, nothing less.

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ Panama,

                I know this is your blog, and everything, but I don’t understand why folks that that so seriously. Like it’s offensive or something…

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ Panama,

                I know this is your blog, and everything, but I don’t understand why folks that that so seriously. Like it’s offensive or something…

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                @pgh muse, personally, it annoys me. that doesn’t mean i’m gonna ask folks to stop doing it. it is what it is. it happens on every somewhat popular site at some point. like i said before, there are much bigger fish to fry. i just wanted to understand it b/c i really just don’t see the point. but it is what it is. c’est la vie.

                carry on.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

                @pgh muse, personally, it annoys me. that doesn’t mean i’m gonna ask folks to stop doing it. it is what it is. it happens on every somewhat popular site at some point. like i said before, there are much bigger fish to fry. i just wanted to understand it b/c i really just don’t see the point. but it is what it is. c’est la vie.

                carry on.

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ Panama,

                Now that I know u find it to be annoying I won’t do it anymore. If ever I wait again for a post at 12:00am, i will make sure that I read it thoroughly before I comment. I have been chastened.

              • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

                @ Panama,

                Now that I know u find it to be annoying I won’t do it anymore. If ever I wait again for a post at 12:00am, i will make sure that I read it thoroughly before I comment. I have been chastened.

            • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

              @Panama Jackson,

              I’m saying PJ, whoever’s lined up to be first is getting u hits, which increases your blogs popularity, and the potential for ad revenue… I’m not trying to attach a deeper meaning. I’m saying I would be completely flattered by the popularity of my blog… and even more that people make an effort to participate. In whatever respect that they do. Isn’t a “first” post better than no post at all? Someone may come out of lurking (and I think it has happened since I’ve been following this blog) to post first. I think it’s cute. And it’s not like there aren’t plenty of substantive comments. This is once again just my .02.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @pgh muse, the champ and i talked about this before and though it ain’t that big a deal, i’m not sure how flattered anybody should be about it.

            for one, it aint like folks are lining up to be the first person to READ and then offer a substantive comment, its just lining up to be first, period. and it has nothing to do specifically with VSB.com. this just so happens to be the blog that you’re frequenting to do it on. it could just as easily be any other blog. being first has nothing to do with the post at hand. so for me, i can’t say i’m flattered by it being as it being first has nothing to do with the posts we even write. being first is just something folks race to do…just because. though it doesnt take anything away from the blog, it doesn’t add anything either.

            it just is.

            you’re right though, the blog is playful and lighthearted, so it aint killing anybody. but i’d be careful to try to attach much deeper meaning to folks attempts to be “first”. its just being “first” for “first’s sake”.

        • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

          @ the first commentary,

          I personally think it’s all in good fun and would be crazy flattered if people stayed up to try to comment first on my blog… or got in line… is my comment decreasing bandwidth space or something? this is a BLOG… a very lighthearted, playful blog at times… just my opinion. my .02…

      • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

        @blackberry molasses,

        Bwahahaha… AWWW BB Mo’! I don’t be on here late all the time!! Can i get a pass for tonight?? Please?

      • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

        @blackberry molasses,

        See that is all I been saying all along. But NO! I was being a wet blanket and sh*t!

        just cause you first don’t mean you are saying sh*t

        • http://www.myspace.com/shay_d_lady79 Shay-d-lady

          @Intellectual Hedonist, now dayumit I call foul yall trippin on saying Im first and not all of the other off topic foolishness that abounds…thats some whos on first ho sh!t if I ever heard it…LMAO……

        • http://www.myspace.com/shay_d_lady79 Shay-d-lady

          @Intellectual Hedonist, now dayumit I call foul yall trippin on saying Im first and not all of the other off topic foolishness that abounds…thats some whos on first ho sh!t if I ever heard it…LMAO……

      • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

        @blackberry molasses,

        See that is all I been saying all along. But NO! I was being a wet blanket and sh*t!

        just cause you first don’t mean you are saying sh*t

      • eff yo couch

        @blackberry molasses,

        How about we make a new rule. Say for instance you can’t claim “first” unless you read and comment on the topic at hand. I think that’s fair

        • V Renee

          @eff yo couch

          Or not claiming first at all…….I believe we’re all rather smart around here and can see whose comment was first. ha

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @V Renee, right? i guess im more annoyed that the first comment says FIRST and nothing else. Like, at least say something in your comment relevant to something going on–besides the obvious.

            • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

              @Liz,

              I heart you…. that is all I was saying like 2 months ago.

              • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

                ok maybe I exagerate when I say two months I lost all track of time, being on vacation for 3 weeks will do that to a person

              • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

                ok maybe I exagerate when I say two months I lost all track of time, being on vacation for 3 weeks will do that to a person

            • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

              @Liz,

              I heart you…. that is all I was saying like 2 months ago.

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @V Renee, right? i guess im more annoyed that the first comment says FIRST and nothing else. Like, at least say something in your comment relevant to something going on–besides the obvious.

        • V Renee

          @eff yo couch

          Or not claiming first at all…….I believe we’re all rather smart around here and can see whose comment was first. ha

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

          @eff yo couch,

          hmmm… I’m gonna defer to Liz on this one. What say you, oh mighty site admin?

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @blackberry molasses, i secretly plot on the people who come in here screaming first and don’t say anything else. u know, one day u might come by and ur comment’s been moved to last….or it’s edited
            ….hahaha. but the champ won’t let me. punk.

            • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

              @Liz,

              That’s cause Champ is a “Salt Thrower”

              Just throwin mad salt in your game. Punk indeed.

              *sticks out tongue at Champers*

              • http://lizburr.com Liz

                @blackberry molasses, pretty much. lol.

              • http://lizburr.com Liz

                @blackberry molasses, pretty much. lol.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                @blackberry molasses,

                the champ just has bigger fish to fry, like who the hell has been stealing my sharpened pencils from my desk.

              • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

                @blackberry molasses,

                the champ just has bigger fish to fry, like who the hell has been stealing my sharpened pencils from my desk.

              • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

                @blackberry molasses,

                Champ a salt thrower, hmmm Champie can you come throw some of that on my wlakway and steps they’re a little icy.

                I know nothing of your sharpened pencils whenever Im at your desk there is this other chick lurking though

              • http://www.myspace.com/circa1908 Intellectual Hedonist

                @blackberry molasses,

                Champ a salt thrower, hmmm Champie can you come throw some of that on my wlakway and steps they’re a little icy.

                I know nothing of your sharpened pencils whenever Im at your desk there is this other chick lurking though

            • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

              @Liz,

              That’s cause Champ is a “Salt Thrower”

              Just throwin mad salt in your game. Punk indeed.

              *sticks out tongue at Champers*

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @blackberry molasses, i secretly plot on the people who come in here screaming first and don’t say anything else. u know, one day u might come by and ur comment’s been moved to last….or it’s edited
            ….hahaha. but the champ won’t let me. punk.

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

          @eff yo couch,

          hmmm… I’m gonna defer to Liz on this one. What say you, oh mighty site admin?

      • eff yo couch

        @blackberry molasses,

        How about we make a new rule. Say for instance you can’t claim “first” unless you read and comment on the topic at hand. I think that’s fair

      • Please Excuse Your Significant Other

        @blackberry molasses, hater

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

          @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

          You know you love me. Smooches!

        • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

          @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

          You know you love me. Smooches!

      • Please Excuse Your Significant Other

        @blackberry molasses, hater

    • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

      @pgh muse,

      Aight, this ‘first’ business is getting a little ri-gatdang-diculous. People aren’t even reading the post and making relevant comments. I swear, the person who does the first “First!!!” post is going have to take up permanent residence in the Sat Down Corner.

    • The Queen

      What is the point of saying first? I thought the point of reading the blog is to hmm read the blog?

    • The Queen

      What is the point of saying first? I thought the point of reading the blog is to hmm read the blog?

  • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

    I didn’t even read the post yet! I just wanted to be FIRST!! My 2009 is starting RIGHT!! YES!!! Now to read the post…

  • Grace

    Apparently not first. That’s what I get for hesitating. Close though…..very close.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Grace,

      well, welcome and sh*t anyway

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Grace,

      well, welcome and sh*t anyway

    • SouthernGirl

      @Grace,

      I’m gonna jump on the champ’s ‘anyway’ bandwagon…welcome! *gold stars* but pipe up and sh!t. comment and join the tomfoolery. lol.

    • SouthernGirl

      @Grace,

      I’m gonna jump on the champ’s ‘anyway’ bandwagon…welcome! *gold stars* but pipe up and sh!t. comment and join the tomfoolery. lol.

  • Grace

    Apparently not first. That’s what I get for hesitating. Close though…..very close.

  • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com Relax, Relate, Alise

    As the semi-famous song goes “It’s Cheaper to Keep Her”…

    But, yes it is just too easy for couples to “tie dat knot”,( read: Vegas, et. al.) the problem is when folks think they are in-lubbb, they ain’t gonna respond to rational suggestions and look at reality to save themselves from themselves. Don’t believe me, try to convince my 23 yr. old little cousin that the ninja blantantly cheating on her with her homegirl ain’t the man for her, she’ll try to cut or tase you, smh…

    • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

      @Relax, Relate, Alise,

      i agree. Hormones can definitely cloud judgement. Hormones mixed with good D* can be lethal!! Lawd… where’s the good D* police when u need them?!?!

      • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

        @pgh muse,

        “Lawd… where’s the good D* police when u need them?!?!”

        Hanging out and getting donuts with the Ho Sh*t Police

        • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com Relax, Relate, Alise

          @blackberry molasses,

          Glazed Hot Sign Ho-Sh*t

          ok, i aint even gonna start….

          • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

            @Relax, Relate, Alise,

            Handcuffed Ho Sh*t
            Krispy Kreme Ho Sh*t
            Brass Badge and Polyester Ho Sh*t
            Dunkin’ Donuts coffee and a stakeout Ho Sh*t
            Paddy Wagon Ho Sh*t… i need to go to bed… lol

            • Gem of the Ocean

              No Sh*t Like Ho-Po-Po Sh*t Ho Sh*t

              • 8th Wonder

                *dead*

              • 8th Wonder

                *dead*

            • Gem of the Ocean

              No Sh*t Like Ho-Po-Po Sh*t Ho Sh*t

          • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

            @Relax, Relate, Alise,

            Handcuffed Ho Sh*t
            Krispy Kreme Ho Sh*t
            Brass Badge and Polyester Ho Sh*t
            Dunkin’ Donuts coffee and a stakeout Ho Sh*t
            Paddy Wagon Ho Sh*t… i need to go to bed… lol

        • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com Relax, Relate, Alise

          @blackberry molasses,

          Glazed Hot Sign Ho-Sh*t

          ok, i aint even gonna start….

      • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com blackberry molasses

        @pgh muse,

        “Lawd… where’s the good D* police when u need them?!?!”

        Hanging out and getting donuts with the Ho Sh*t Police

    • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

      @Relax, Relate, Alise,

      i agree. Hormones can definitely cloud judgement. Hormones mixed with good D* can be lethal!! Lawd… where’s the good D* police when u need them?!?!

    • http://www.myspace.com/shay_d_lady79 Shay-d-lady

      @Relax, Relate, Alise, I totally agree plus mofos be confusing what love is anyway.. love means you love the pros and cons..you know the crust of a muthaf!@cka..LOL you know the good and bad and accept them.. its the mofos that only know the good..or only choose to believe the good that leads them down the path to marital woe..thinking that the marriage will fix errything that aint perfect.. ..I mean I feel like it need to be a age llimit and minimum required “together time” and six months of counseling before you are even considered for a license….

      • http://fyre08.blogspot.com Ro

        @Shay-d-lady,
        “its the mofos that only know the good..or only choose to believe the good ”

        I agree with this wholeheartedly. You get a pocket full of sunshine for that one!

      • http://fyre08.blogspot.com Ro

        @Shay-d-lady,
        “its the mofos that only know the good..or only choose to believe the good ”

        I agree with this wholeheartedly. You get a pocket full of sunshine for that one!

    • http://www.myspace.com/shay_d_lady79 Shay-d-lady

      @Relax, Relate, Alise, I totally agree plus mofos be confusing what love is anyway.. love means you love the pros and cons..you know the crust of a muthaf!@cka..LOL you know the good and bad and accept them.. its the mofos that only know the good..or only choose to believe the good that leads them down the path to marital woe..thinking that the marriage will fix errything that aint perfect.. ..I mean I feel like it need to be a age llimit and minimum required “together time” and six months of counseling before you are even considered for a license….

    • miss t-lee

      @Relax, Relate, Alise,
      “As the semi-famous song goes “It’s Cheaper to Keep Her”…”

      It has to be the Johnnie Taylor version though…lmao

      • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com Relax, Relate, Alise

        @miss t-lee,

        And that ish has been in my head all day…

      • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com Relax, Relate, Alise

        @miss t-lee,

        And that ish has been in my head all day…

    • miss t-lee

      @Relax, Relate, Alise,
      “As the semi-famous song goes “It’s Cheaper to Keep Her”…”

      It has to be the Johnnie Taylor version though…lmao

  • http://naturallyalise.blogspot.com Relax, Relate, Alise

    As the semi-famous song goes “It’s Cheaper to Keep Her”…

    But, yes it is just too easy for couples to “tie dat knot”,( read: Vegas, et. al.) the problem is when folks think they are in-lubbb, they ain’t gonna respond to rational suggestions and look at reality to save themselves from themselves. Don’t believe me, try to convince my 23 yr. old little cousin that the ninja blantantly cheating on her with her homegirl ain’t the man for her, she’ll try to cut or tase you, smh…

  • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

    I am really too tired to comment coherently on this EXCELLENT post as it relates to marriage… i will just offer that the stimulus package that the Obama administration is putting together really has to put some money in the pocket of average, middle income Americans… Mo’ money, mo’ purchases, mo’ jobs, mo’ consumerism. That is the only way to keep America running. Otherwise we the people may have to look at changing our gluttonous (spellcheck?) American lifestyles, which to me is wholistically better, but that is a can of worms to discuss in another forum I think. Good night VSB.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @pgh muse,

      Otherwise we the people may have to look at changing our gluttonous (spellcheck?) American lifestyles

      you know, i was reading some argument somewhere that a recession would actually be the best thing for us, long-term, in that it would force us to change our habits

      • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

        @The Champ,

        I agree with this with all my heart and soul. Let Wall Street crumble… let it all fall down..

        • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

          @pgh muse,

          Everyone should google and watch “The Story of Stuff”… i would post a link but on the site u have to download it. It’s very informative about the hamsterwheel we’re on called life.

        • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

          @pgh muse,

          Everyone should google and watch “The Story of Stuff”… i would post a link but on the site u have to download it. It’s very informative about the hamsterwheel we’re on called life.

      • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

        @The Champ,

        I agree with this with all my heart and soul. Let Wall Street crumble… let it all fall down..

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @The Champ, though i can understand that ideology in theory, it seems rather shortsighted. whereas increasing gas prices has caused people to change their driving habits, which in turn is a plus for the environment, a depleted economy does nothing in the long-run to really stabilize American habits. for one, people losing jobs isn’t a plus for society as it strains our already strained general welfare (not welfare as in welfare mom, but as in safety nets like medicare and social security), which increases crime, etc. there’s no benefit to a sinking ship since at some point, you have to pick up the pieces and rebuild the ship. it’s better if you get to it before its been demolished to 1000 pieces.

        btw, i’m an economist. love me.

        • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.

          @Panama Jackson,

          But instead of putting the money in the pockets of the general population, wouldn’t it have been better if he went ahead with his (alleged)original plan to spend it on Infrastructure? The new bailout program is talking about 300 Billions in Tax rebates for individuals and Tax cuts for corporations. I do think that that approach is rather shortsighted as we’ve seen the “success”(drooling with sarcasm) of the first Bush cosigned rebate package.

          But I’m not an economist. Just an aficionado of all things economics. It’s ok to love me too. :D

        • http://freetherapyorelse.blogspot.com Sula 2.09. Requirements Gathering Phase.

          @Panama Jackson,

          But instead of putting the money in the pockets of the general population, wouldn’t it have been better if he went ahead with his (alleged)original plan to spend it on Infrastructure? The new bailout program is talking about 300 Billions in Tax rebates for individuals and Tax cuts for corporations. I do think that that approach is rather shortsighted as we’ve seen the “success”(drooling with sarcasm) of the first Bush cosigned rebate package.

          But I’m not an economist. Just an aficionado of all things economics. It’s ok to love me too. :D

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @The Champ, though i can understand that ideology in theory, it seems rather shortsighted. whereas increasing gas prices has caused people to change their driving habits, which in turn is a plus for the environment, a depleted economy does nothing in the long-run to really stabilize American habits. for one, people losing jobs isn’t a plus for society as it strains our already strained general welfare (not welfare as in welfare mom, but as in safety nets like medicare and social security), which increases crime, etc. there’s no benefit to a sinking ship since at some point, you have to pick up the pieces and rebuild the ship. it’s better if you get to it before its been demolished to 1000 pieces.

        btw, i’m an economist. love me.

      • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

        @The Champ,

        You know, I just read today that Larry Flint and Joe Francis are asking Congress for $5 billion to bail out the pron industry.

        Pretty soon, errything gonna be gumbent controlled. Including our s3xual habits. Feels like 1984 (I love this book).

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @blackberry molasses, i read that article. i wonder how many people actually think thats real. i spoke with a few people who were outraged and i couldn’t believe they were taking that seriously. lol.

          • Gem of the Ocean

            yeah. BIG publicity stunt. ummm hello, it is Larry Flynt afterall. he just needs to draw attn to himself. not that anyone should have to look at the unfortunate frontal structure of his head.

            • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

              @Gem of the Ocean,

              “unfortunate frontal structure of his head.”

              BBMo flatlines…..

              • Gem of the Ocean

                noooooo BBMoooooo!! *gets defribrillator*

                stand back ppl. i am not a medical doctor and have no idea what i’m doing. but i will save this woman!!!

              • Gem of the Ocean

                noooooo BBMoooooo!! *gets defribrillator*

                stand back ppl. i am not a medical doctor and have no idea what i’m doing. but i will save this woman!!!

            • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

              @Gem of the Ocean,

              “unfortunate frontal structure of his head.”

              BBMo flatlines…..

          • Gem of the Ocean

            yeah. BIG publicity stunt. ummm hello, it is Larry Flynt afterall. he just needs to draw attn to himself. not that anyone should have to look at the unfortunate frontal structure of his head.

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

            @Panama Jackson,

            I personally thought it was hilarious. I figure if they give money to pron, legalized s3x work and weed can’t be too far behind.

            My only concern would be once they give it money, they will control it. They ain’t gonna give it carte blanche like they did to the banking industry. Because that would be CRAZY! LMAO

          • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

            @Panama Jackson,

            I personally thought it was hilarious. I figure if they give money to pron, legalized s3x work and weed can’t be too far behind.

            My only concern would be once they give it money, they will control it. They ain’t gonna give it carte blanche like they did to the banking industry. Because that would be CRAZY! LMAO

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @blackberry molasses, i read that article. i wonder how many people actually think thats real. i spoke with a few people who were outraged and i couldn’t believe they were taking that seriously. lol.

      • http://lostwomanchild.blogspot.com/ blackberry molasses

        @The Champ,

        You know, I just read today that Larry Flint and Joe Francis are asking Congress for $5 billion to bail out the pron industry.

        Pretty soon, errything gonna be gumbent controlled. Including our s3xual habits. Feels like 1984 (I love this book).

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @pgh muse,

      Otherwise we the people may have to look at changing our gluttonous (spellcheck?) American lifestyles

      you know, i was reading some argument somewhere that a recession would actually be the best thing for us, long-term, in that it would force us to change our habits

  • http://www.museacdonline.com pgh muse

    I am really too tired to comment coherently on this EXCELLENT post as it relates to marriage… i will just offer that the stimulus package that the Obama administration is putting together really has to put some money in the pocket of average, middle income Americans… Mo’ money, mo’ purchases, mo’ jobs, mo’ consumerism. That is the only way to keep America running. Otherwise we the people may have to look at changing our gluttonous (spellcheck?) American lifestyles, which to me is wholistically better, but that is a can of worms to discuss in another forum I think. Good night VSB.

  • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A.

    Ok, my previous comment was held for moderation. I don’t know why, so here it is again….

    I definitely agree it is too easy for people to get married and it’s too easy for people to get divorced. The bad economy forcing couples to stay together will either force them to work through whatever problems they thought they had, and restore the marriage, or they will kill each other. Or they could do like this Cambodian couple.
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/09/house.divided/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

    • RedBeanzNRice

      @N.I.A.,

      Funny stuff. I read about this a few months back and thought “Wow, he’s either super gangsta, or he has an unchecked mental disorder.”

      Either way, his actions were funny as hell.

    • RedBeanzNRice

      @N.I.A.,

      Funny stuff. I read about this a few months back and thought “Wow, he’s either super gangsta, or he has an unchecked mental disorder.”

      Either way, his actions were funny as hell.

    • Leila

      @N.I.A., I’m not sure if it’s forcing them to work out their problems. One of my closest friends is in this exact situation. He and his wife bought a home in 2005 and the value dropped by $150K. He wanted to leave her last year, but is staying until the house appreciates. He now really resents his marriage even more and barely acknowledges her and acts like a single man even they’re still married and living together.

      • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan….

        @Leila,

        I don’t think these bad economic times would really force anyone to want to work things out. Possible, maybe, but highly unlikely. If anything, it will exacerbate the problems already there.

        Thing is, your friend should go ahead and leave that chick. His personal happiness and mental well-being is more important than that house.

        • Please Excuse Your Significant Other

          @N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan…., his happiness and well being might also be shot when he sees how little he gets for that house

          • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan….

            @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

            true true….

          • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan….

            @Please Excuse Your Significant Other,

            true true….

        • Please Excuse Your Significant Other

          @N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan…., his happiness and well being might also be shot when he sees how little he gets for that house

      • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan….

        @Leila,

        I don’t think these bad economic times would really force anyone to want to work things out. Possible, maybe, but highly unlikely. If anything, it will exacerbate the problems already there.

        Thing is, your friend should go ahead and leave that chick. His personal happiness and mental well-being is more important than that house.

    • Leila

      @N.I.A., I’m not sure if it’s forcing them to work out their problems. One of my closest friends is in this exact situation. He and his wife bought a home in 2005 and the value dropped by $150K. He wanted to leave her last year, but is staying until the house appreciates. He now really resents his marriage even more and barely acknowledges her and acts like a single man even they’re still married and living together.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @N.I.A., i don’t know if its too easy for people to get divorced. it may be too easy for people to decide to get divorced, but state laws are built to keep people married. and the legal process alone + the financial burden of divorce make it a difficult process. word to michael jordan and paul mccartney

      hell you see Shaq decided to stay with Shaunee (sp?) after he realized what divorce would entail.

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Panama Jackson,

        hell you see Shaq decided to stay with Shaunee (sp?) after he realized what divorce would entail.

        considering what (supposedly) happened between them, this was one of the most surprising news stories of the year

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Panama Jackson,

        hell you see Shaq decided to stay with Shaunee (sp?) after he realized what divorce would entail.

        considering what (supposedly) happened between them, this was one of the most surprising news stories of the year

      • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan….

        @Panama Jackson, I agree that there are a lot of legalities that make divorce difficult. What I should have said was divorce is too easy of an option for people who would rather bail than work until you can’t work anymore. Marriage takes effort, and some times, people seek divorce too quickly

        • Leila

          @N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan…., It’s not that difficult if you do it in the DR. It takes 3 days…

        • Leila

          @N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan…., It’s not that difficult if you do it in the DR. It takes 3 days…

      • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A. thinkingofamasterplan….

        @Panama Jackson, I agree that there are a lot of legalities that make divorce difficult. What I should have said was divorce is too easy of an option for people who would rather bail than work until you can’t work anymore. Marriage takes effort, and some times, people seek divorce too quickly

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @N.I.A., i don’t know if its too easy for people to get divorced. it may be too easy for people to decide to get divorced, but state laws are built to keep people married. and the legal process alone + the financial burden of divorce make it a difficult process. word to michael jordan and paul mccartney

      hell you see Shaq decided to stay with Shaunee (sp?) after he realized what divorce would entail.

  • http://nianaturally.blogspot.com N.I.A.

    Ok, my previous comment was held for moderation. I don’t know why, so here it is again….

    I definitely agree it is too easy for people to get married and it’s too easy for people to get divorced. The bad economy forcing couples to stay together will either force them to work through whatever problems they thought they had, and restore the marriage, or they will kill each other. Or they could do like this Cambodian couple.
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/09/house.divided/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

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