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black “firsts” we won’t be seeing anytime soon

rapper. record-setter. roach

from the first black president and the first black head football coach at mississippi state university (sylvester croom. this was a really, really big deal when it happened, btw) to the first black woman to win an oscar for best actress and the first black roach to simultaneously impregnate two mulatto sex symbols, the past decade was filled with numerous black firsts many of us thought we’d never see.

despite this continuous progress, there remains more than a few black firsts i doubt we’ll seeing anytime soon. here’s two of them.

openly gay black male in the NBA or NFL

while former nba-er john amaechi came out after his playing days were over and kobe bryant remains a bitch, we’ll see sarah palin on the cover of black tail before we see an openly gay black male pro athlete.

now, i’m sure that there are many currently gay or bisexual black athletes on NBA and NFL rosters. as far as i know, catching punts and catching penises aren’t mutually exclusive. actually, considering the sheer number of men in each league, i’d be more surprised if there weren’t at least a dozen somewhat popular athletes with an extra spare in their tanks, and i’m positive that each of them have a teammate or three who are fully aware of their situation

but, when you combine the prevailing image of the hyperheterosexual black male with the fact that no other american industry capitalizes and depends more on the allure of the ultra-competitive alpha male than professional team sports, you can understand how an openly gay black man would be the complete antithesis of what many (if not most) professional sports fans and participants think sports are all about.

with the ostracization and threats of physical danger he’d probably face, a black male athlete would need balls the size of lincoln, nebraska to come out while he was still playing (and an actual college degree, because his playing days might be over), and i can’t see anyone making that decision

black blockbuster movie

although black actors and actresses have starred in numerous blockbusters, none of the megabucks movies will smith or zoe saldana or denzel washington have been in would qualify as “black movies“…just movies that happened to star will smith or zoe saldana or denzel washington. as much as we –and, in this case “we” means “not me”-- love and support the tyler perry flicks, a 60 million gross (box office +  sales made in barbershops and bodegas) aint sh*t compared to 600.

there are myriad reasons for this (ie: black movies don’t seem to translate well overseas, black movies usually don’t have megabucks marketing campaigns behind them, the IMAX people told hollywood not to produce any multi-million dollar “black” action or science fiction flicks because they dont want n*ggas shooting at those expensive ass screens, etc) but the fact remains that a black movie would have to overcome too many obstacles to reach blockbuster status, and, unless hype williams finally releases belly 2: sincere in africa, i can’t see it happening.

anyway, people of vsb: do you think we’ll see an openly gay black male professional athlete or a black blockbuster in our lifetimes? if so, which do you think would happen first?

also, are their any other black “firsts” we probably won’t see anytime soon?

the carpet is yours

—the champ

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  • http://kamakula.wordpress.com kamakula

    Here is a first that you will see, me posting here!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @kamakula,

      ah yes. taking it back to the kamakula/luvvie first battles from the fall of 2008. those were some epic contests (until liz took her ball and went home)

  • Legendary Dash

    We will see the 1st gay athlete 1st. There is only a matter of time before mediatakeout gets photographic proof of Chris Bosh or Randy Foye getting tossed up by some random male stripper.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Legendary Dash,

      to be perfectly honest, i’m surprised that hasn’t happened already. or, maybe they have some pics and are just blackmailing for bandwidth fees

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @The Champ, same here. with all the rumors floating out there about artists you know some athletes are soulpolin’. thing is maybe the less than famous ones are the ones that are getting caught and who cares. hell, in DC they STILL ain’t put javaris crittenton on TV. it’s all about Gilbert and javaris went to court too. his ass? got a little snippet written up in the weather section.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Panama Jackson,

          true. i doubt many of the gossip blogs would care if carey davis (the fourth string running back on the steelers) came out the closet

          • BKSweetheart

            @The Champ, LOL!! Yeah the fourth string folks are barely making the salary of a mid level professional

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @bksweetheart,

            “Yeah the fourth string folks are barely making the salary of a mid level professional”

            ummm…in what profession are mid-level professionals making 800g’s a year? lemme know so i can get back to school and get a degree in whatever field that is

          • BKSweetheart

            @The Champ, Well according to foxsports.com carey davis makes $375K. So I was a little off LOL…. but still not that much money for a pro-athlete. Especially considering rothlisberger makes 27 million!!

  • overit

    first of all, feels good to be back, hi ya’ll! *waving*

    my vote goes to a black blockbuster and champ hit it on the head, no other american industry capitalizes and depends more on the allure of the black alpha male. Holiday Heart on the football field is not what’s poppin for middle America.

    although i will say i will be shocked if i see a black blackbuster, lol.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @overit,

      “champ hit it on the head”

      thats what she said.

      • michaboa

        @The Champ, you need to step your game up, your responses are becoming predictable.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @michaboa,

          yeah, that tends to happen after reading and responding to approximately 250-800 comments a day for almost two years straight

          **btw, predict deez**

          • Yeah…SO?!

            @The Champ, **btw, predict deez**

            predicted- smh

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @Yeah…SO?!,

            lol, weren’t you the one who predicted it the last time. That was such an awesome comment. And I don’t even like saying awesome, so it was effing awesome.

          • Yeah…SO?!

            @Cheekie, thank you, thank you *curtsy*- lol

            You know I couldn’t let this one slide… When will he learn?

            Slide/learn/know/let/curtsy/etc deez

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @michaboa,

          Weren’t they always? lol I mean, him saying “[insert anything, and I mean anything here] deez” anything someone roasts him ain’t all that shocking. I thought it was his schtick.

          • michaboa

            @Cheekie, lol i know but im salty because i didnt get my “welcome and shit”

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @michaboa,

            you didn’t?

            well, welcome and sh*t.

            and salt deez

    • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

      @overit,

      “feels good to be back, hi ya’ll! *waving*”

      Oh, meant to do this:

      *waves back @ overit* Hey, homie!

  • JumpOnIt

    How about there won’t be a first all black sitcom show that reaches the level of FRIENDS, SEINFELD, or idk…any other #1 rated 30 minute show. Although I like the TP movies, I absolutely abhor those 2 shows he has.

    • Maximillian

      @JumpOnIt,

      Missed The Cosby Show era, huh?

      • JumpOnIt

        @Maximillian,

        Aww Shite! You’re right. Cosy AND Fresh Prince. Damn tv just ain’t what it used to be.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

          @JumpOnIt, if anything, Will Smith is the closest shot we probalby have to getting some shit all the way to the top Black wise now a days. i mean he’s been UBER successful in everything he’s done.

          hell, he might actually end up as the president. lol. imagine that. though he’ll have to give up that scientology mess.

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            @Panama Jackson,

            “i mean he’s been UBER successful in everything he’s done.”

            Yeah, that mofo was a success genius. Anyone who can cause “Wild Wild West” to make as much money as it did, is the second coming.

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            ETA:

            I didn’t mean to say “was”. That was weird…and creepy.

            *backing away from comment*

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

        @Maximillian,

        i think a different world had pretty good ratings as well (due to the cosby lead in)

  • http://www.shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

    I am thinking a black blockbuster is more popular.
    I think if they could manage a budget for a comic book joint… its possible…a black romantic comedy? probably not so much and an openly gay nba or nfl player
    hell to the naw.
    Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet (for the most part) them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….

    and your right, Kobe is still a biatch

    • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

      @shay-d-lady,

      “I think if they could manage a budget for a comic book joint…a black romantic comedy”

      I do think this would work, but many comics are whiter than prime time television. I’d love to see a Black Panther movie with real Africans or a movie about Storm sans Halle. As for the romantic comedy, do the 2520s as whole know about Love Jones, or Hav Plenty?

      • Legendary Dash

        @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
        The Black Panther has never been a really good comic book, and I doubt he is popular or interesting enough to carry his own film. He has been unable to maintain his own series. A reboot of Blade in this vampire obsessed world could do the trick.

        • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

          @Legendary Dash, You are correct about BP not being that popular. I knew of the character but never read his books until he got hitched to Storm. Storm is probably the only black character that the general public may even recognize. Blade would work.

          • Legendary Dash

            @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
            His character is a great idea, but outside of a brief run in the early 90s was not pulled off run as a stand alone character. If Storm had her own movie, he could be introduced, or if Marvel still had control over The Fantastic Four, his original origin could be used. There is also potential to use him in Iron Man and Avengers films. Especially Iron Man, as the primacy of Wakandan technology could be used as a reason for him to come into contact with Tony Stark. *Removes blerd hat.*

        • Caballeroso

          @Legendary Dash,

          I’m not familiar with the Black Panther (character). Similarly, I think it would be a though sell to the majority who likely would immediately think of the Black Panther Party as I did from reading this. No Blackbuster accolades with that title.

          • Legendary Dash

            @Caballeroso,
            He predates the Black Panther party by a couple of months. The Black Panther leads a African nation that was never conquered by anyone. His country, Wakanda, is the most technologically advanced country in the world. He is a head of state, and put his country first, even if that means alienating other heroes. The main problem with him is that his powers left a lot to be desired which limited his popularity.

          • Mr. Kay

            @Caballeroso, another thing to add about the Black Panther, he beat the Fantastic Four single-handedly

          • Sula

            @Legendary Dash,

            I love the idea of this comic (and shall research it)… but the way you describe it? No wonder it didn’t work… Lots of people including comic lovers (who can very easily be one of the most open-minded group of people regardless of color) might not be too comfortable with the idea of technologically super-advanced African contry… Off to e-bay to search for Black Panther.

            p.s: is there any fanfiction for comics outside of Anime? I would love to add stories about Black Panther. Lol!

        • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

          @Legendary Dash, True about BP. He would end up being a supporting character in another movie. I would like to see his pops beating up Steve Rogers during the 40′s in the Captain America movie.
          @Caballeroso, He’s a combo of Batman and Iron Man w/o the creepiness, facist tendancies, and chemical adiction.

          • Legendary Dash

            @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
            When it was revealed that he joined The Avengers to spy on them, he became awesome in my eyes. He has done some cool things. He beat the hell out of Mephisto in like 30 seconds.

        • Idubbs

          @Legendary Dash,

          actually these last couple of years, the BLACK PANTHER has had a pretty successful run in the comic book world… Unfortunately he did just get put in a coma by DR. DOOM… wesley snipes was rumored to play him in a movie, but i guess we all know how that turned out.

          btw, my first time to the site. totally diggs.

          • Sula

            @Idubbs,

            btw, my first time to the site. totally diggs.

            Welcome and sh*t.

          • http://lizburr.com Liz

            @Idubbs, welcome to the site! *hauls out welcome wagon*

      • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

        @Wuyoung Agent of M.E., As for the romantic comedy, do the 2520s as whole know about Love Jones, or Hav Plenty?

        even if they did, they probably couldn’t relate. hell, half of Black america can’t relate to love jones and its largely only uber popular b/c so many of us reading negroes are fake ass deep people anyway. and hav plenty? lol. yeah, until you get rid of chenoa maxwell aka the bad movie killer, NOBODY could take that mainstream.

        there’s a reason she’s only been in moves with christopher scott-cherot, and i assume that reason is she has pictures of him boning a gay nba player.

        • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

          @Panama Jackson, So your saying Chenoa Maxwell is like a black Jennifer Tilley? They both are still better at what they do than Monica Calhoun.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

            @Wuyoung Agent of M.E., not sure that’s true. chenoa maxwell is REALLY bad at what she does. she’s so bad she couldn’t even get into the Trois series. you know who did?

            monica calhoun! and at least she made it into a movie seen by more than people with low expecations (the best man). most of us own that. people who own hav plenty and G are pretty much masochists.

          • miss t-lee

            @ Panama Jackson
            “G”

            Oh good gawd. I’m still upset with my sister for giving me this movie as gift. Bootleg version, to boot.

          • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

            @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,

            monica calhoun will always have a place in my heart for her unexpected (and surprisingly un-flat) ass close-up shot in “the players club”

            btw, what are the odds that jamie foxx is going to play a supporting role in a movie starring lisaraye ever again? a million to 1? a billion?

        • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

          @Panama Jackson, I liked the Best Man when it was called the Big Chill. I stand corrected on my Monica Calhoun statement. I actually watched G and it is now on my list of movies that will make your life worse. It was bad, Black Spring Break Bad.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @shay-d-lady,

      Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet

      lol, i think ya’ll (black women) actually have us beat.

      • Legendary Dash

        @The Champ,
        That is so true. Even being pleasant to a gay guy in public is grounds to get you tagged DL and blackballed by sisters. A big chunk of homophobic behavior is actually posturing for women.

        • http://www.randomrhymereason.blogspot.com Jara

          @Legendary Dash,

          co to the muthaeffin sign.

          Woman, Sexist and Homophobe Aren’t Mutually Exclusive

        • Yeah…SO?!

          @Legendary Dash, I won’t lie… I do find it odd when a heterosexual male is cool with a not-so-heterosexual male… mostly tho(I’m guessing) b/c all the men that influenced me growing-up were very ALPHA-male and didn’t play dat “botty bwoy bizness”… Dem Jamaican men can be scary *shivers*

          • Legendary Dash

            @Yeah…SO?!,
            Even when dealing with family members, I make sure to survey the scene for women before he talks to me in public because I know that women will find me laughing it up with a nigga with lip gloss on to be suspect behavior.

          • Yeah…SO?!

            @Legendary Dash, I’m telling you… it sucks, but guilt by association *shrugs*…not to mention it’s the DL isht we think about really, cuz with them mofos you NEVER KNOW- a beesh gotta protect her neck(so to speak) ya feel me?

        • Sula

          @Legendary Dash,

          Women actually have a lot of contradictory behaviors… cf. the woman who does not like other women conundrum… Blame patriarchy (see how I did that? Ha! :))

      • Maximillian

        @The Champ,

        But what about all the black women who have or want a gay male friend?

        • http://www.randomrhymereason.blogspot.com Jara

          @Maximillian, sissy-gay men are okay but men who women can’t tell are gay because they’re flaming? red alert! it makes us (meaning them) feel very insecure about sleeping with a possibly bisexual man (see HIV and female friends NOT being jealous).

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Maximillian,

          But what about all the black women who have or want a gay male friend?

          that’s canceled out by the fact that even a hint that a black guy might be “gay-friendly” is enough to potentially put a permanent cramp his dating game.

          black male homophobia didn’t make j.l. king a millionaire

          • Sula

            @The Champ,

            black male homophobia didn’t make j.l. king a millionaire

            Bingo.

          • http://shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

            @The Champ, black male homophobia didn’t make j.l. king a millionaire

            lol yes it did. you know why? because he listed it as one of the first signs of down low brothers. a lot of naive women looking for reasons to blame their lack of mandom….
            women are not homophobic, they arent afraid of gay men, most women are afraid that their man might be gay, which is a different, although equally disturbing trend,.. but they dont have a problem with outwardly gay men.
            Most black men are the opposite. Which is why their wont be an out the closet nfl or nba player fourth string or otherwise. Its not about whether media will accept them… their teammates wont..

    • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

      @shay-d-lady,

      “Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet (for the most part) them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….”

      You’re right about this. My ultra-liberal 2520 friend from college asked me about this I gave her this answer: I told her it came from the fact that little black boys are always given that you have to be stronger and strive for a certain degree of manliness to make it in a white world set up to see you fail. No weaknesses are tolerated and being a homosexual is viewed as the ulitimate weakness. She had a look on her face like I showed her what was in the brief case from Pulp Fiction after that. That’s my opinion on a black man’s homophobia. Not to mention, the church (who created the don’t ask don’t tell policy), the homophobia of black women, and the homophobia of the rest society.

      I could be completely wrong about that, but that’s my guess.

      • http://www.randomrhymereason.blogspot.com Jara

        @Wuyoung Agent of M.E., Or you could be completely right because I completely agree with you. Well-written.

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Jara,

          honestly, i think its a circle of homophobia that both black men and black women are a part of

          • http://www.randomrhymereason.blogspot.com Jara

            @The Champ, I agree. A circle of “which came first: the chicken or the egg?” proportions. Fact: Most black children in U.S. are raised in a household with single black mothers. Where do we learn our first gender stereotypes? Where did the black mothers learn them from? Would we even be alive today if it weren’t for our black mothers finding our fathers who bought into the macho male stereotype sexy? Hmm…

          • Miss Patterson

            @The Champ, gtfoh. :) I agree with shay-d-lady that there is a distinct difference between homophobia and fear of the possibility that your guy might be bi or gay.

      • miss t-lee

        @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,
        “She had a look on her face like I showed her what was in the brief case from Pulp Fiction after that.”

        *giggling*

      • Sula

        @Wuyoung Agent of M.E.,

        Someone took their smart pills this morning! Well said.

        But it’s really sad overall though.

        It’s even worst in African circles… I weep for my brothers. Le Sigh.

    • Legendary Dash

      @shay-d-lady,
      There teammates will accept them. John Amechi noted that a lot of his teammates knew he was gay. It is nearly impossible to spend as much time together as pro-athletes do and not know eachother’s sexuality.

      • http://shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

        @Legendary Dash, but there is a difference between keeping a “dont ask dont tell secret” and sharing a locker room with an openly gay man….i bet a lot of those guys would have jumped on the bandwagon of hate to assure that they were not associated with any “gayness”

    • Made In Hawaii

      @shay-d-lady,
      “them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….”

      Lmbo!!!

  • http://www.shay-d-lady.com shay-d-lady

    also you only got 2? did you write your post at the last minute champ? lol

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @shay-d-lady,

      “also you only got 2?”

      thats what she didnt say

  • MizzouLegend

    I’m going with 1st Black Blockbuster. We won’t be seeing it anytime soon because, well, it has to make money somehow. There could be a movie made in Africa talking about Mansa Musa and his travel to Mecca dispensing gold as he went. The movie could bring about the ceasefire to all conflicts on the continent and everything just because everybody wants to see it.

    BUT it wouldn’t make any money because of mass bootlegging.

    Others:

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @MizzouLegend,

      There could be a movie made in Africa talking about Mansa Musa and his travel to Mecca dispensing gold as he went. The movie could bring about the ceasefire to all conflicts on the continent and everything just because everybody wants to see it.

      and by “everybody” you mean “the seven hebrew isrealites selling cans of root beer outside of east liberty kuts” right?

  • http://www.africanhiphop.com Superior motherload

    Black men forming a coalition to strongly discredit the ‘well hung’ myth.

    • Legendary Dash

      @Superior motherload,

      ‘well hung’ myth.”

      Grabs package and laughs heartily at this foolishness. Myth? HA!

    • Yeah…SO?!

      @Superior motherload, Why would black men want to discredit this again?

      • http://www.randomrhymereason.blogspot.com Jara

        @Yeah…SO?!, forgot the crowd participation question already?

        here’s another one:
        the first black openly male gay rapper to hit #1 on Billboard’s Hip-Hop chart. right up there with no openly gay male nba or nfl player.

        • Yeah…SO?!

          @Jara, No I didn’t forget… I thought intially that it would be a list of things some black people actually WANTED… but whatever- keep the party going

          I have one to add- the first black olympic diving gold medalist

          • Sula

            @Yeah…SO?!,

            the first black olympic diving gold medalist

            Can happen sooner than you think…

          • DG

            @Yeah…SO?!,

            Already been a black olympic speed skating gold medalist in Shani Davis…

          • Yeah…SO?!

            @Sula, Really? I just thought with the whole black people being afraid of heights and water the odds were infinitely NOT in our favor *shrugs*

          • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

            DG,

            “Already been a black olympic speed skating gold medalist in Shani Davis…”

            Yeah, I watched the Winter Olympics because of this mofo. It was so glorious.

            Also, it introduced me to the weirdest sport ever: curling. I mean, seriously, who the f*ck came up with that hot mess??

            Which, come to think of it, another addition: First Black curling gold medalist.

          • miss t-lee

            @ Cheekie,
            ” Which, come to think of it, another addition: First Black curling gold medalist.”

            Curling is tooo wild!

          • Yeah…SO?!

            @Cheekie and miss t-lee, I had to google it (I know I’m nosy) and I just don’t get it… something about sports that look like you would feel stupid while doin it just turns me off…

            For those of you who have no clue what curling is and actually give a isht http://www.mindbites.com/lesson/1139-curling-101-an-introduction-to-the-sport

          • Yeah…SO?!

            @Cheekie and miss t-lee, I had to google it(hate to be left out)… that isht looks stupid- and why dey gotta do splits again?

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Superior motherload,

      lol, yeah. although i think we’ve covered basically every type of coalition possible, i doubt we’ll be seeing that one, ever.

  • Tenchi

    Black “firsts” we won’t see…hmmm…

    An episode of MaurySpringerCopsFirst48 without black people…

    BET airing ANYTHING of significance…

    An end to nursery rhyme “booty music”…

    That long promised, never shot Marvin Gaye biopic…

    A baptist church that allows you to NOT pay tithes…

    A relevant, living civil rights leader…
    (yeah, that last one is gonna hurt)

    • Wuyoung Agent of M.E.

      @Tenchi,
      “A baptist church that allows you to NOT pay tithes…”

      F*&^ing Building Fund!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @Tenchi,

      An episode of MaurySpringerCopsFirst48 without black people…

      i think i might be one of the only people in the country who’ve pulled a “cops” trifecta. i’ve had them drive past my house before, i’ve known at least one person who was arrested on that show, and my cousin (a cop in cincy) had his own 15 minute segment on the show a couple years ago

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      @Tenchi, That long promised, never shot Marvin Gaye biopic…

      that’s a pun if i’ve EVER seen one…

      • http://keepthechangeanonymous.blogspot.com/ Tenchi

        @Panama Jackson,

        I was hoping no one would notice…
        Felt slightly dirty as I typed it…

    • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

      @Tenchi,

      You don’t watch B.E.T., do you?

      • http://keepthechangeanonymous.blogspot.com/ Tenchi

        @Monk,

        What had happened was…
        A couple of days ago I scanned and decided to stop…saw something called “Wacka Flocka Flame” and died inside…

        • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

          @Tenchi,

          A couple of days ago I scanned and decided to stop…saw something called “Wacka Flocka Flame” and died inside…

          considering what just happened to him, would this be irony?

          actually, nevermind. it wouldn’t be. still, its gotta be something

          • http://keepthechangeanonymous.blogspot.com/ Tenchi

            @The Champ,

            Geez, now I gotta start doing news searches on every potential one hit wonder before I make snarky death related comments…

            Had no idea…*Taylor Swift shrug*

        • http://www.sistersoundoff.blogspot.com Cheekie

          @Tenchi,

          “A couple of days ago I scanned and decided to stop…saw something called “Wacka Flocka Flame” and died inside…”

          The first time I saw him was on MTV in the morning and he was doing some interview about getting shot on some Fiddy Cent “Ain’t this interesting even though we’ve heard this story 50-lem infinity times” type sh*t. My people, my people, is that the only thing we gotta interview about? *Florida Evans frown*

    • http://www.randomrhymereason.blogspot.com Jara

      @Tenchi, BET aired significant programming prior to being sold by Bob Johnson. Of course, “significant” is a matter of taste. I happen to think Teen Summit and the Flip Wilson comedy with Gladys Knight as his wife and Jaleel White as their son was significant.

      BET is too easy of a mark.

      • http://keepthechangeanonymous.blogspot.com/ Tenchi

        @Jara,

        They paint the bullseye, I shoot the arrows…

      • http://presidentialtelevisionandfilm.ning.com Monk

        @Jara,

        Significance is relative I guess because in my opinion, they have had significant programming…even in recent years. The only thing is Black people don’t (watch or admit to watching) wanna give them their props when they do air things of significance. Also, let’s not forget that B.E.T. stands for Black ENTERTAINMENT Television, emphasis on the “E”.

        By the way, check out the S.O.S. special on B.E.T..

        • Sula

          @Monk,

          I tend to agree with you. I think BET is the easy target for the Reading Negroes League… but as far as entertaining goes, I’ma think they do because they are still in business.

    • legitimate_soul

      @Tenchi,

      “A baptist church that allows you to NOT pay tithes…”

      ^ or how about a church being remodeled or improved from them finally using the donations for the “building fund”.

    • http://ravingblacklunatic.blogspot.com Big Man

      @Tenchi,

      Every chuch I’ve been to allows you not to pay tithes. Ain’t like they got a gun to your head saying “Run dat ninja…”

      They all ask you to pay, but nobody forces you to do it.

  • meka

    “Black men are the most homophobic creatures on the planet (for the most part) them mofos will bring back jim crow laws for they share a locker room with a gay man….”

    @Shay-d-lady–this is so funny and so true. Brothers would gladly go to the back of the bus (while singing old negro spirituals) before they share a locker room with John Amici.

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com The Champ

      @meka,

      you know what though, i think the hesitancy for a guy to come out has more to do with the fans and the media than the locker room. like i mentioned before, i’m sure there are gay black male pro athletes, and i’m sure each of them have a teammate or a coach or someone that knows

    • Sula

      @meka,

      I tend to agree with The Champ… I don’t think if a guy has his boy he has known his entire come out on him, he will just drop him like that. Don’t think so… Will be worried that we (black women) will judge him with that in mind? Yes. Will he have to take precautions to avoid that? Probably… so at the end of the day, I think it’s more of a shared problem than it is a black male problem (like it was so well explained upthread)…

      We are still on Kanye’s nuts because he admitted that he thought Rap was homophobic… what does that say about us? *kanyeshrug*