Pop Culture, Race & Politics

Are You Ready for Post-Racial Cheerios?

It kilt me dead.

It kilt me dead.

Y’all gon’ have to give me a late pass for this one. But a few weeks ago, Cheerios dropped a commercial that featured a mixed-race couple (that don’t actually share any screen time together) and their hybrid child in an adorable spot highlighting children’s desire to keep their parents alive.

Let me tell you all something; I’m impressionable. I have GEICO insurance because those damn commercials entertained me so much. My HVAC guys? A company in DC who has a jingle that my daughter recited to me so I figured, hey, they must be good, they give good jingle. If you tell me something is good (and tell me something good) I’m liable to give it a shot because, again, I’m impressionable. So Cheerios dropping this commercial that shows that somebody said – in a meeting, no less – that America is more diverse now, let’s be more diverse has convinced me that I should buy more Cheerios. It also helps that my daughter, who has hair like that child, loves Cheerios. So they win by default.

So stop me if you’ve heard this one before. Company debuts commercial with mixed race parentage. Racists lose their sh*t. Nutcases come out of the woodworks. We live in interesting times, and this is part of the reason why print journalism is failing. Everything is a conversation. For many of us, our entire lives are centered around as much of ourselves as possible while still maintaining some semblance of privacy. Well within that, everybody becomes immediately accountable. Now, this accountability isn’t necessarily to any person in particular, but no bad idea goes unpunished. Look at the case with rap lyrics nowadays. There was a time not too long ago when you could say whatever the f*ck you wanted and there would be little to no real backlash short of sales. Well, now if you say something ridiculous, there are slews of people ready and willing to take you to task and mobilize, even for a short time. This all comes from the change to constant communication.

Well, this means that any loon with access to a computer (read: like almost everybody) can offer an opinion, unfiltered and with reckless abandon. So it stands to reason that the minute a commercial that includes a couple of racemixers (or swirlers…wait, are you only a swirler if you’re a Black woman? I really have no clue) hits the public sphere, the Stonewall Jackson supporters and Black folks who hate interracial love are going to make their opinions known. For a situation like this, the responses to the commercial dominate the conversation. Hell, Cheerios had to disable comments on that video because of some of the disgusting racist things that were said.

I know we elected Obama twice and all, but I’m sure we can all agree that the term post-racial isn’t an actuality. I think even the least racist person in the room would still immediately take notice of the fact that this child (who could have easily been used in a commercial with two Black parents and nobody would have thought twice about it) was referring to this white woman as momma. Part of that is that by the time something hits mainstream commercials, its somehow depicted as…normal. And I’m not sure we’re ready as a country to view interracial couples – namely Black and white since let’s be real, that’s the only place 90 percent of the outrage comes from in interracial dating – as normal.

Sure, interracial dating and marriage has seen significant increases over the past few decades. But it still bothers a lot of people since it hits on a lot of hot button issues for a lot of people.

Look, diversity is here. That sh*t is cool. It rocks. But its not without some broken eggs. Some Black and white men and women still feel some kind of way about seeing miscegenation. They just do. And they always will. It harkens back to the traditionalist view of society. While we don’t mind rooting for our favorite football team which just so happens to be full of Black folks, we don’t necessarily want them coming over for dinner. I remember growing up having this conversation. Remember, I went to high school in Alabama. Anyway, this conversation was about racism. It happened in one of my history classes and a few white students claimed very plainly to not have a single racist bone in their bodies. So one of my hombres, a Black dude, asked if any of them had any Black people in their homes. Ever. I kid you not, not one of them could say they had. Thing is, I don’t fault them. I’m sure most of the Black students could say the same thing though probably for different reasons. I’m not saying white people are more racist since I don’t really believe that to be true. But studies have shown that Black people tend to be more tolerant of diversity than white people, in general. This is nowhere more prominent than in housing.

Either way, the point of that is, while I know we’ve come a long way, I’m not sure people are fully ready to view something like interracial dating as a commonplace occurrence. Sure it’s just a commercial. But most commercials are supposed to be reflective of common life to get you to use common products. Most of us like our images of society held intact. But this is also why so many Black folks hate seeing big boneded Black women hawking chicken. For many of us, it does feel like nearly all commercials with Black folks trend towards stereotypes.

Then again, maybe we are all just stereotypes anyway. Hmmm…

At the end of the day, I think the commercial is cute. But I can’t pretend I don’t see how something as simple as a cereal commercial can stir up controversy and bring out the worst in people. There are some lines folks ain’t ready to cross yet. And its not just white people.

But when in doubt, as always, just blame Jim Jones. Or Tyler Perry. Actually, I’m surprised Tyler Perry hasn’t made a movie about interracial dating yet.

Where’s his number?

So what do you all think? Is it a big deal? Is America ready to view interracial dating, marriage, and procreation as the norm in mainstream society? OR, possibly more importantly, does the controversy over commentary on sites get overblown on stuff like this and for the most part, nobody really cares?

Talk to me. Petey.

-VSB P aka THE ARSONSIT aka MR. HALF BREED – HALF AMAZING aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3

 

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  • Oshun

    Oi, God bless Amerrrucah! FIRRRRRST? I wanna thank God, Jesus, ma village, and errybody else.

    Date whoever. BUT, please in the process of swirlarization do NOT justify your choices in the name of black men ain’t shid, they are just deadbeats, or black women are -0.0001% so therefore….just don’t.

    Amerrucah will NEVER be post racial. It can try…but, it’s not gonna happen. Peace!

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      I agree.

      Hiya, AM!

      *waves*

      :-)

      • Oshun

        Val,
        HeYYyyy!!!!! :) *waving madly*

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          :-)

    • Todd

      Date whoever. BUT, please in the process of swirlarization do NOT justify your choices in the name of black men ain’t shid, they are just deadbeats, or black women are -0.0001% so therefore….just don’t.

      I think people are intellectualizing their own hurt and pain into some grander cause because they don’t want people to think that they’re weak enough to get hurt by some petty stuff. Of course I got over the fact my dad only met me 3 times in childhood or my mama beat me like a pinata every Friday. It’s just an objective truth that Black men/women ain’t sh1t, right? ;) #seewhatIdidthere

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

        “I think people are intellectualizing their own hurt and pain into some grander cause because they don’t want people to think that they’re weak enough to get hurt by some petty stuff.”

        This right here!!!!

      • Nomadanare

        This is an excellent point, Todd. We’ve seen a lot of this especially as of late. I think a good question surrounding this train of thought is when don’t we do this?

        • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

          @Nomadanare:
          “This is an excellent point, Todd. We’ve seen a lot of this especially as of late.”

          O: We have? Where? How? Please explain?

          “I think a good question surrounding this train of thought is when don’t we do this?”

          O: No – I think an even better question is, why is it OK for certain individuals/groups to do this, and NOT OK for others?

          #MensRights

          Hmm?

          O.

          • NomadaNare

            http://verysmartbrothas.com/giiiiiiirl-you-betta-quit-college-and-get-yo-man-boo/

            Did you read yesterday’s post? And honestly, it is/isn’t okay depending mostly on where you present your intellectualized feelings. Some groups will be receptive, some not. You can turn it into a MR issue if you want, but in doing this you’re making yourself an example.

            • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

              @Nomadanare:
              “Did you read yesterday’s post?”

              O: Have you?

              Everyone’s Favourite Miss Clever Little Silly Returns
              http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com/entry/134096

              “And honestly, it is/isn’t okay depending mostly on where you present your intellectualized feelings. Some groups will be receptive, some not. You can turn it into a MR issue if you want, but in doing this you’re making yourself an example.”

              O: *shrugs* People can and will attempt to dismiss something they’re uncomfortable with confronting no matter what; so, it doesn’t matter to me. The issue remains valid regardless…

              O.

          • camilleblu

            O…can you clarify please? are you saying that we do not see a lot of hurt projection in today’s society?

            • mena

              I think he’s saying that women are allowed to project their hurt but men are not and if they do so, they are called to task.

              • camilleblu

                ah….thank u mena…

              • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                @Ms. Mena:
                “I think he’s saying that women are allowed to project their hurt but men are not and if they do so, they are called to task.”

                O: Bingo. Thank you!

                O.

    • mena

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      • mena

        ?!)(??!

        • Sweet GA Brown

          $$$$…$

          • mena

            ..^^^..

            • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

              &?

              • Eps

              • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                o0

                • charlie

                  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                    o~~0

                    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

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                    • Eps

                    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

                      Que dices?!

                  • Yoles

                    ummmm

                    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                      []

                    • mena

                      *&^))(*)(

                    • Kema

                      Uhhhhh

                  • Eps

                    balls

                    • mena

                      P3nis

                    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                      I see you, Mena.

      • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

        this is like ~ an unraveled thread ~

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          Yup.

    • MimiLuvs

      On my maternal side of the family, I have a lot of male relatives who have this mindset. I know that it has to do with their mom (my grandma).
      But it was still hurtful to hear when I was a child. A certain person reminds me of them.

    • Rewind

      If you become the first poster again tomorrow, I grant you the right to run for President.

      • Ms. Bridget

        Mami 2016!

      • Negro Libre

        I wonder what the longest streak for first posters?

  • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

    By America I assume you mean White men, right? And the answer is; it depends. Notice that there have been tons of TV commercials featuring White men with Black women and Asian women and there was no uproar. But, this particular spot caused a ruckus. That’s because White guys are okay with interracial as long as it’s them who is partaking of the interracial relationship. but, they do not want to see their daughters or anyone that looks like their daughters or wives or sisters or mothers or grandmothers with a Black man.

    There would not be a TV show called Scandal had the President been Black and the jumpoff, oops I mean the woman he’s having an affair with was White. First, it would have never been greenlit by the White men who run the TV networks and second there would have been an uproar.

    So, there you go. And in general there’s a lot of hypocrisy surrounding this issue. I mean many of the same women who lose their minds when they see a Black man, especially a successful one, with a non-Black woman also love Scandal and have nothing but good things to say about successful Black women with non-Black men.

    Likewise there are some Black men who are also hypocritical on the subject.

    The most disturbing thing about general Black views on IR dating and relationships is that the topic seems to bring out the men who don’t like Black women too much and Black women who don’t like Black men too much.

    I know there’s a lot of history to this but people should work on at least being consistent. It’s hard to justify being okay with some interracial relationships but not others.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

      “That’s because White guys are okay with interracial as long as it’s them who is partaking of the interracial relationship. but, they do not want to see their daughters or anyone that looks like their daughters or wives or sisters or mothers or grandmothers with a Black man.”

      This is very true. If you remember about fifteen years ago on the FOX TV show “Ally McBeal”, when Ally McBeal had a relationship with a Black doctor (Jesse Martin’s character), they were all up in arms, but on that exact same show they were noticeably silent on Ling (Lucy Liu’s character) sleeping with White dudes.

      They are also the reason why there’s a huge amount of racism in the adult film industry. Ironically,they are the biggest consumers of interracial themed adult material (check the statistics- I don’t make this stuff up).

      • Sahel

        You watched Ally Mcbeal ? I still belive that black people are forbidden flavour..if you want controversy,just add black lol

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

          I still watch Ally McBeal- in fact, it’s in my queue on Hulu!

          • Sahel

            That whole unisex bathroom thing never made sense to me

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

              I didn’t get it either- though it made for many awkward moments on the show, such as the frog incident.

            • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

              I will not use a unisex bathroom. Yuk.

              • Sahel

                Conservertive

                • Yoles

                  seeing that i have absolutely no qualms in using the streets, back alleys, sides of roads and other wide open spaces mens bathroom, i guess i would not have a problem using a unisex one

                  • Sahel

                    Am in awe of the free spirit that is Yoles

                    • Yoles

                      *curtsies*

                  • Kema

                    I see no problem with it! But I can see a lot of women not wanting men to hear them tinkle. And it may ‘ruin’ some guys image of women.

                    • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

                      it also turns some of them all the way onn ..

                  • SweetSass

                    Do you carry a roll of tp with you?

                    • Kema

                      She probably just twerks. #Jillscottjoke

              • kid video

                Whenever I hear someone mention unisex restrooms, I think of the opening scene of “Belly”…

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vCzgG_jTo4

                • Book2

                  Sooooo you have 2 bathrooms at home 1 for him and 1 for her?…as long as there is a lock on the door I’m cool.

          • WVBody

            And thus my lurking eCrush is further fueled.

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        I never watched Ally McBeal but I think I remember something about that. Of course that was before the internet was as it is today so things were more muted.

        And, Asian women with White men seems to be the most acceptable IR pairing.

        As for p)rn. Lol. There’s definitely a lot of stereotypical stuff going on in that industry. Just the titles to the films are crazy backwards.

        • SweetSass

          I’ve always been curious as to who watches what in the pr0n world.

          • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

            That would make for a very interesting study.

            • Sahel

              The only pron i dont get is snuff porn and that doing animals thing,who watches that

              • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

                You would be suprised.

                • Sahel

                  Come on,beastiality. Thats just super wrong

              • Kema

                Ive watched animal pron. I just wondered how that could happen. I think many that take a look do so for the wtf appeal.

                • Sweet GA Brown

                  True. In college I dedicated a hour of my life to it and it turned my stomach so much. I just dont get how a lady walks on the beach with her dog and goes back to the hotel room and the dog starts…tear that ish up and the camera man was able to hold the camera steady. Ughhhh.

                  • camilleblu

                    maaann…listen..i had the unfortunate experience of seeing a woman give a horse a BJ….it literally made me sick to my stomach…

                    • Sahel

                      Only in Gary

                    • KENYADIGIT

                      …go on…

                    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                      Lol@Gary

            • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

              Those studies have already been completed. The adult industry is very cutting edge. They know their market very well and how to cater to it.

              • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                @Tentpole:
                Yes, this is true. The p*rn business is much more, well, businesslike than many people give it any credit for. They know their target market(s) very well.

                O.

              • Negro Libre

                I once read that they make more money than all the 4 major sports league combined.

            • Wild Cougar

              A study was done, and a book written on it, called A billion Wicked Thoughts. Interesting read. One thing I personally found interesting is that porn searches for MILF outrank many other categories. It’s like the fourth or fifth most popular type of porn.

            • Wild Cougar

              A study was done, and a book written on it, called A billion Wicked Thoughts. Interesting read. One thing I personally found interesting is that p*rn searches for MILF outrank many other categories. It’s like the fourth or fifth most popular type of p*rn.

              • Sahel

                Aha,Kema

              • http://obsidianraw.bravejournal.com Obsidian

                @Ms. Wild Cougar:
                Acutally, Jon Milward of the UK did an extensive study of p*rn and will the MILF catergory is indeed popular, we have to be very careful with how such a term is defined. For example, middle aged Women who are solidly in their 40s aren’t in this catergory; the MILF term seems to start from Women in their 20s on.

                Also I think the most popular catergory in p*rn today is the Teen catergory…

                O.

              • http://twitter.com/ktemjin Kaname

                Here’s the link that summarizes some of the interesting points in the book

                http://jezebel.com/5793986/fascinating-facts-about-internet-sex

            • http://twitter.com/ktemjin Kaname

              This might help to illuminate that thought a bit!

              http://jonmillward.com/blog/studies/deep-inside-a-study-of-10000-porn-stars/

      • kid video

        Any of you guys remember “The days and nights of Molly Dodd”?

        It was McBeal before McBeal…successful working white woman in NYC…who sometimes bedded a brother.

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          Ally McBeal, Molly Dodd? Lol. What’s up with the Irish-American chick shows. Was that a thing?

          • Sahel

            I only watched Felcity season one so am out of the loop here.

          • Yoles

            Irish whites are the *BEST whites!!!

            * i may possibly be bias but that doesn’t stop it from being true ;)

            • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

              Barack is half Irish.

              • Todd

                And so is our VSS friend Yoles…specifically Jamaican Irish. (Which I didn’t know was a thing until I met her and, interestingly enough, a YouTube vid featuring a White girl with her Jamaican-born Irish dad.)

            • SweetSass

              Irish, the Blacks of Europe.

            • Brother Mouzone

              Irish whites are the *BEST whites!!!

              * i may possibly be bias but that doesn’t stop it from being true

              The Irish slave owners were considered the most vicious and cruel of all other slaveowners( a very tall order) and after slavery lots of their descendants became cops even to this day…check most larger cities police rolls and you will find a majority of Mc-whatevers, O’-whatevers, Sullivans, Kirkpatricks, Hannitys, etc… and all the other obvious irish names.

              • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                And don’t forget the Draft Riots during the Civil War when the Irish were killing Black folks, including children, because they didn’t want to serve in the military.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Draft_Riots

          • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

            No, Molly Dodd was 10 years before Ally Mcbeal

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N301QFLAUhY

          Yes, I remember this show very well. Blair Brown was the hottest ginger to ever grace the small screen- at least until Christina Hendricks came along.

          • kid video

            *Tips hat to PA*

            Thx fellow VSB ALA…

        • Yoles

          i watched Molly Dodd.. i liked it

          • kid video

            Hey Yole’…

            • Yoles

              Hey Kid… how u been?

              • kid vid

                Not bad…workin on visitin your city soon.

      • Rewind

        Ally McBeal is the reason I knew I could smang white girls.

        And Lisa Nicole Carson justified my love for huge boobs.

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

          Too bad Lisa Nicole Carson is batsh*t crazy (No really, she is…).

          • camilleblu

            yeah…she went left, didn’t she?

            • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

              Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder? Yeah….

          • Rewind

            Aye…she might be crazy…but those tiddies aint crazy.

            • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

              Naomi Campbell is crazy, Lisa is mentally ill.

          • Negro Libre

            Smh, so sad.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        The same thing happend on Will and Grace. The main character Grace was dating the late Gregory Hines. Folk got up in arms and the script was tweaked to make Greg a womanizer.

        • camilleblu

          i liked that show…funny how there could be several gay characters, but the IR was a fukcing problem #a$ap

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          I missed a lot of TV it seems. Lol. I’ve heard of that show but I’ve never seen it.

    • Todd

      And this is why we need the LGBT community in America…to have no dog in the particular fights among us straight folk. Good call Val!

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com Val

        Yeah, that’s why we’re here. Lol.

    • Freebird

      Val….as usual….

      I agree with this balanced and fair analysis. PA mentioned Ally McBeal. Damn good show (In my Netflix as well). I remember the uproar over her dating a black guy. In fact black man/white woman relationships will remain the litmus test for how far we have “progressed” towards “post-racial”. White dudes lost their minds when Seal married Heidi Klum. I know Scandal got folks hot and bothered but really….that’s an old and comfortable story.

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Yep, it is a very old story.

    • Brother Mouzone

      + infinity x Infinity…..This could not have been expressed better.

      • Brother Mouzone

        Meant for Val’s comment…..

        By America I assume you mean White men, right? And the answer is; it depends. Notice that there have been tons of TV commercials featuring White men with Black women and Asian women and there was no uproar. But, this particular spot caused a ruckus. That’s because White guys are okay with interracial as long as it’s them who is partaking of the interracial relationship. but, they do not want to see their daughters or anyone that looks like their daughters or wives or sisters or mothers or grandmothers with a Black man.

      • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

        Thanks, Bro Mo.

  • http://embracethej.tumblr.com Cheekie

    The FIRST thing I thought when I saw this commercial is, “Dayum, I wish I wrote that.” Because of reasons. Reasons that have to do with it being dope. It was poignant.

    In other news, I’mma make Cheekie’os. Yes, with the apostrophe so I can be down with the hood. Mangia mangia!

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

      I wonder what Cheekie’os would taste like…and more importantly, will they be about five dollars a box- like all other cereal?

      • Sahel

        Pervert

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

          See, I was talking about cereal, honestly!!

          • Sahel

            Nope,with a screen name like that you need more witnesses.

    • Yoles

      Cheekie… i thought that over the top, too damn adorable baby girl looked like you… granted the only time i have seen you face-to-face was in a dark club while i was totally intoxicated and anxiously awaiting seduction by Tx but i swear baby girl looks like how i remember you looking…

      • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

        Yo, they do favor.

      • http://www.saysmeblog.wordpress.com Aly

        True.

        • Kema

          *scrolls up and then back down* Uh huh!

      • Sweet GA Brown

        I agree.

      • Tx10inch

        I concur.

        And Yollie…guuurl, u betta stop. :-)

    • Brother Mouzone

      Cheekie on 12 June, 2013 at 12:32 am said:
      The FIRST thing I thought when I saw this commercial is, “Dayum, I wish I wrote that”

      The first thing I thought was, “why are they not in the same room or same camera shot at the same time???

      • camilleblu

        well…they already showed their little half-breed baby…you can’t possibly expect the sensors to actually show her parents together in the same room…

        • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

          ohh it’s like that 50s style separate beds. like they married but they dont have sex. yep. even tho they got kids. storks and ishh.

  • IP

    There WAS interacial dating in “family that preys.” Well, not dating exactly. More like interacial f*cking lmfao.

    • Rewind

      Given that it was Sanaa Lathan…I think everyone let that rage go

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      Yeah. There was no love there though. lol. Funny enough, in the Tyler Perry cannon, that’s actually one of the half decent movies.

      • Sweet GA Brown

        That is the best film he has produced. #nomadea

        • camilleblu

          i caught a preview of his show on OWN…as soon as i heard the maid(?) say…u gon’ let that man take u straight to hale…i changed the channel…#fail

          • SweetSass

            The soap opera lighting. Wow. Yeah. Not interested.

            • camilleblu

              not to mention tika sumpters makeup was like…10 shades too damn dark…

  • IcePrincess

    Omggg panama, there is a HVAC company here in atlanta called Shumate. They have the catchiest jingle ever! I find myself singing along every time it comes on.

    • http://www.styleillusions.com WIP

      LOL, I think all local businesses gotta step their jingle game up. They really do work. I sometimes find myself singing “Say hello, to Thomasello…” the pest control company

  • B sweet

    You can’t help who you fall in love with. I also don’t believe in race mixing. I understand these points of view are not convergent. Blame it on the Gemini in me. Today’s my birthday-cupcakes for everyone!!!

    • Sahel

      Bring those hot buns in here girl. I got some whipped cream for em. Happy birthday.

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

        Why does this sound a little R rated?

        • Sahel

          Because yous perverted,bleach your mind

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

            Naw dude, I’ve seen your posts- you can’t put that on me, LMAO!!!!

          • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

            I thought you were against bleach, Sahel? Nice to see you’re decided to be on #teambleach. :-)

            • Sahel

              I use it to baptise people like alchemist who have perverted minds

              • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

                You might need to splash a likkle bit on yourself then. Just sayin’. :-)

                • camilleblu

                  heh..

                  • Sahel

                    No,you hush it up.

        • MimiLuvs

          Yeah, it does.

      • b sweet

        Thank you Sahel! I accept all bday wishes with glee, even the dirty ones ;)

        • Sahel

          Come on,there was nothing dirty about that

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

            So you say…

            • Sahel

              Oh,this aint over. I will catch you slippin

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      Why don’t you believe in race mixing? And, happy birthday.

      • b sweet

        I know I know. it’s sometimes troubling to admit, because I’m never ‘offended’ by interracial couples, and I thought the commercial was cute and couldn’t believe anybody found anything wrong with it. The impact of what happened to our people before the Middle Passage when Europeans raped our women and mixed races is still being felt today. Now, I understand there is a huge difference between rape and a loving choice based on free will, which is why I believe you can’t help who you fall in love with and all love should be celebrated. But the historical context bothers me. As a people, we’re already so disconnected from our heritage, our currently adopted culture is diluted. we have a higher chance of leaving a cultural imprint if we procreate with our own. I’m not intolerant of other cultures. One of my passions is international travel, and I love traveling to different parts of the world and immersing myself in different cultures. Traditions passed on, a way of life with a general consistency that we lack. I feel like the KKK typing this, spouting the whole ‘race purity thing I know, but it’s how I feel.

        • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

          I get what you are saying. As I mentioned in my comment above, there’s a lot of history to this. And, mostly we don’t deal with the historical implications of IR relationships unless in anger.

          It’s funny that IR relationships, for the most part, illicit a response in most people but most are unwilling to unpack all of their thoughts on the subject.

          So, I can really appreciate you being honest on the subject.

          • b sweet

            Thank you for my bday wish!

            • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

              YW :-)

        • Sahel

          She does have a point..there is a massive gulf between african americans and africa. I find it amusing that many talk of africa as a country because they do not know where their bloodlines started from.

        • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

          B. I feel the same way. I support those who choose that way of life, but in my case the images of Roots, Sounder echo in the back of my head and makes it hard for me to get to that level of understanding for me.

          • http://www.twitter.com/Bmorebmw Tentpole

            P.S. Happy Birthday

            • b sweet

              thanks tentpole!

          • Brother Mouzone

            B. I feel the same way. I support those who choose that way of life, but in my case the images of Roots, Sounder echo in the back of my head and makes it hard for me to get to that level of understanding for me.

            Me too…don’t judge me.

        • Angel Baby

          I agree with everything B sweet typed!!! TRUTH

        • Rewind

          I disagree. What kind of cultural imprint are two Black people going to have when we’ve mostly been removed to any of the “positive” traits our so-called historical sense should have?

          I’m the product of a Grenadian man and a woman born from Bajan parents. What little West Indian context I still have, I don’t know how much of it would go to my kids if I ever had any, because I get the feeling that the cultural embrace & family connection that exists now won’t exist later. I know nothing of what African country my ancestors came from.

          So the only cultural connection I can think of is crack, weave, curry goat, & hip-hop. If that’s what you mean, I’d gladly stick it to a Hispanic or Middle Eastern woman any day.

          • Sahel

            And you all thought you knew Rewind

            • Rewind

              I’m as raw as sushi and prison sex.

              • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

                Uhhh…ewww?!

                • camilleblu

                  double ewww…i just had to sterilize my screen…

              • Sahel

                “Nodding wisely”

              • Rewind

                @ PA & Camille….I have been on this site far too long for yall not to recognize I will say some horrible, off the wall things.

                • camilleblu

                  you know i luh you rewind…but that was still ewww worthy…

                  • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

                    yeaa it fukt with my whole Neneh Cherry reference.

                    dont play with my Buffalo Gal ..

    • naturalista88

      Happy birthday.

      • b sweet

        thank you naturalista88

    • http://www.iamyourpeople.com I Am Your People

      Happy birthday (okay, I’m only here for the red velvet cupcakes)

      • b sweet

        Thanks IAYP (hands over a cupcake)

    • Yoles

      HAPPY BIRTHDAY B SWEET

      * signed a product of race mixing :(*

      come on you gotta love us… i had a t-shirt that said “Mixed chicks are the best chicks” i will admit it drove AA women crazy… my retort is: We da BEST (no Khalid) & you should not feel any way because i love myself…

      enjoy your very special day though :D

      • Todd

        Um, that shirt is narcissist. And remember, few people can tell that you’re mixed anyway, so *Rick Ross grunt*

        • mena

          And one of the main reasons why busted biracial people swear they look good. I have been told that I would make cute biracial kids (don’t ask) and I always say, mixed kid does not equate to cute.

          This is not at you Yoles. You’re actually quite pretty.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

            “And one of the main reasons why busted biracial people swear they look good.”

            Not helping matters is when they are sold that false bill of goods by their own parents.

            • camilleblu

              listen…real talk…sometimes i think that the most unattractive mixed couples will make babies b/c they know that individually, neither of them are lookers, so they hope the baby gets the best of some recessive genes or something…sometimes it works…sometimes it is a major #FAIL…

              • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

                For some reason, a lot of them think every child will turn out like Halle Berry or Shemar Moore.

                • camilleblu

                  well he11…even halle berry had plastic surgery to slim down her nose…

                  • Sahel

                    Wait,what. Not Halle

                    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

                      Look at her in R. Kelly’s video for “Honey Love” and look at her now.

                    • camilleblu

                      yeah sahel…she pimped out a dentist i believe to pay for it…i remember reading an article about how he was suing her to get his money back after she dumped him..

          • Yoles

            *blushes prettily*

            Thx Mena :D

          • Misty Knight

            Rain.Pryor.

            • mena

              Awww…she’s not busted.

              • Misty Knight

                LIES! Damned Lies!

                • camilleblu

                  whew!! i 2nd and 3rd this motion…

                  • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

                    Rain Pryor looks like Drake with titties…

                    • mena

                      D@MN!!!

                    • Misty Knight

                      Top 10 Worst Visual Ever.

                    • Sahel

                      Eish,man. Thats hard.lol

        • http://www.saysmeblog.wordpress.com Aly

          Yoles has that good hair… that’s how you can tell she’s mixed ;)

          • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

            Yolie is gold ~*~ she got that Cubana blood

        • Yoles

          why is someone feeling the best about themselves narcissist? i’m sure if the t-shirt said African-American Women are the best women.. there would be absolutely no beef at all… bump that.. i love me and i know i’m GREAT

          u stay trying to tell me i don’t “look” mixed… i do because i AM… u got beef with me or something?!?!? only thing between us is space and opportunity son… if you feeling froggy jump
          *insert Yolie gangsta look*

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist
          • http://www.saysmeblog.wordpress.com Aly

            *holds Yolie back*

            YOU BETTER RUN TODD!

            • Kema

              *stands behind Aly and jumps up and down* Yea Todd! You dont want none of this… Boiiii!

          • h.h.h.

            Wait, Yolie getting gangsta?

            lemme get her official hood theme gully song read for y’all…

            VSB Exclusive – Yolie gully theme song – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exGJsv6ZNlo

            *walks casually away*

      • b sweet

        I love you with all that I have Yoles. :) Thank you for the bday wish. It’s a fundamental belief with no practical application, which is why I’m conflicted.

      • Brother Mouzone

        * signed a product of race mixing *

        come on you gotta love us… i had a t-shirt that said “Mixed chicks are the best chicks” i will admit it drove AA women crazy… my retort is: We da BEST (no Khalid) & you should not feel any way because i love myself…

        I think stuff like this drives AA women crazy is because it seems like you’re boasting about something that’s not worth bragging about (“look! I have white blood! Just in case you can’t tell, I’ll put it on my t-shirt!!!)..no offense.

        • Negro Libre

          Might as well put a bulls-eye on your head.

    • The Other Jerome

      I have no problem with race mixing. Cross Genus breeding, however, is an abomination!!!!

      • SweetSass

        Calm down, The Island of Dr. Moreau is fiction.

        • Kema

          I felt really bad for the girl.

      • april

        You should read Lori Leigh’s “Breed” series

    • camilleblu

      Happy Happy Berfday B sweet!

      • b sweet

        thanks camilleblu!!!!

    • http://verysmartbrothas.com Panama Jackson

      Happy racist birthday. LOL.

      demsjokes.

      • b sweet

        Thanks PJ

    • Sweet GA Brown

      Happy Birthday!!!!

      • b sweet

        Thanks Sweet GA Brown!!

    • Wild Cougar

      Happy birthday fellow gemini!

      • b sweet

        thanks WC!!!

    • Kema

      Happy Birthday!!!

      • b sweet

        Thank you Kema!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/Ms.Trina.High T.Hi

      *quits lurking long enough to say,
      “Happy Birthday!”*

      • b sweet

        Thank you t.hi for de-lurking for my bday!!!

  • Sahel

    People need to chill out. Fact. Asians,Arabs,Blacks and European people will never understand each other fully..maybe to talk of a post racial anything when laws like stand your ground still help white people more than blacks and that black people would completly disown being black to date other races. But i say its a start,if cheerios and a child saying mummy can cause so much angst then maybe the problem runs much deeper.

  • msdebbs

    America need to take a major chill pill. Its not that serious. Races mix all the damn time and I doubt that anyone is one pure race anymore.

    • Sahel

      Jews

      • SweetSass

        Religion, not a race.

        • Kema

          I thought it was a religion and a race. Im so confused!

        • 2Rawtid

          +1000000

      • CaliMink

        Jewish is not a race its a cultural & religious identity. For example you can have Ashkenazi Jews and Sephardic Jews and they both are “Jewish.”

        • Sahel

          My bad,i stand corrected

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

          Yeah, but let them tell it, it’s a race…

          • Sahel

            Yeah,Netanyahu said the jewish race was always under threat when the were deporting the sudanese from israel early this year.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

      Unfortunately, race is still a hot button issue- as evidenced by people getting bent all out of shape over a Cheerio’s commercial- a freaking Cheerio’s commercial!!!!

  • minxbrie

    I thought the commercial was cute!

    I’m not going to lie, I love seeing interracial couples of any kind because it reflects my reality. My whole damn family is mixed; one of the biggest things I struggled with in my teens was realizing that most people will see that I’m Black and not much else. I wasn’t taught about race – my Dad tried to get me to stop speaking patois in public but that’s about it. I was raised by a white grandfather and an Indian/Spanish grandmother, they weren’t prepared to have to deal with racism with me because 1. They’re Jamaican and you can never tell my grandfather he is not a black man. Over 20 years in Canada and he still hates it. 2. They raised me to be a Jamaican, not a Black/mixed race person.

    And in my opinion, the only way that we can become post-racial is by interacting with other races and YES that includes dating them. Everyone has a different experience and we can either choose to learn about it or deny it.

    • blackphilo

      “I wasn’t taught about race.”

      You’ve made this all too evident.

      • SweetSass

        Really dude?

      • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

        *closes piano*

      • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan

        *stop requested*

      • camilleblu

        well damn…

      • Jupiter Calhoun, scourge of the Kilrathi, bane of the Daleks, enemy of the Kzinti

        Wow. Someone had a glass of Carnation Instant Arsehole this morning.

        • Kema

          LMAO!!!

        • blackphilo

          Feel free to insult the messenger. But if you’re sympathetic to laments like, “realizing that most people will see that I’m Black and not much else”–whatever exactly this means and whyever such not-so-special cases are supposed to be importantly different–might as well own it.

          While doing so, you also can wave the “Swirl For A Post-Racial Future” banner. I’ll pass–and I’m certainly no anti-interracial nationalist, whether about cereal ads or personal life.

    • http://commentarybyvalentina.wordpress.com/ Val

      I just don’t get why we need to be post-racial. I mean what’s wrong with acknowledging someone’s ethnicity. I think it’s mostly White people that long for a post-racial society. And by that they mean the day when they don’t have to hear about racism anymore.

      • minxbrie

        I mean, to be honest, I don’t think racism will ever die because we’re too comfortable with labeling things in black and white (no pun intended), THEN we consider the shades of grey most beneficial to us. There’s no point in pushing for some idealistic world where we’re all just a lovely shade of beige because that’s not happening.

        Plus, I find that learning about a persons ethnicity is more beneficial than race to understand where they’re coming from.

        • Yoles

          Products of white Jamaicans UNITE!!!!!!!
          (my father doesn’t say he is black, but he says he is nothing like a white american, its a very tricky identity) he considers himself JAMAICAN… out of many… one people…

          i also wasn’t “taught” about race per se… which is difficult to navigate over here in nyc… everyone wants to put ppl in boxes and most of the time my fat butt can’t fit (pun intended :D)

          • Todd

            Um…I know where you live. 3 guesses as to what box you get put in more often than not. LOL

            • http://stanoffewwords.wordpress.com Tristan

              Creeeeeep Liiiiiiife

          • minxbrie

            I think it’s because when we say “white people”, my Papa thinks Canadians and Americans – he doesn’t include himself.

            Which is hysterical because he and his 3 sisters will be sitting around sometimes like, “Dem white people is fool, eeh?”

            They just don’t identify with the culture and it drives them mad when people just assume they’re Canadian.

          • Kema

            “Products of white Jamaicans UNITE!!!!!!!”

            Yoles dont be so exclusive! Products of Jamaicans Unite. :-) And can I add that I finally can make a good batch of cornmeal porridge. :-) I know its simple but I kept failing.

        • Rewind

          Categories are the easiest forms of information processing humans can teach to other humans. That’s what people teach their kids, and that’s why everyone needs to identify everything in the world by putting it in some sort of a box. Try forcing someone to think freely without asking your race or ethnicity within the first 5 minutes of meeting you…they start to lose it.

          • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

            “Try forcing someone to think freely without asking your race or ethnicity within the first 5 minutes of meeting you…they start to lose it.”

            …And so it begins the awkward moment where a person has to treat a person of color and/or mixed heritage as a human being.

      • Wild Cougar

        TRUTH

    • 2Rawtid

      Well being Jamaican would be your ethnicity, which has nothing to do with your race. and contrary to popular belief Jamaica has people of a variety of races most commonly indians, asians, whites…as evidenced in the motto. If you choose not to identify/acknowledge your race/s totally up to you but people cant really have perceptions about ur ethinicity until you divulge it.

      I completely disagree though about the only way to become post racial is to date other races. Bc even i see that a lot of these couples will view their spouse as exceptions to widely accepted stereotypes of their race. They dont necessarily understand this new race better, they understand their spouse better and choose to embrace them for who they are.

  • SororSalsa

    When I first saw the commercial, I thought it was cute. It took a day or two to realize that I’d never seen an IR couple in a commercial before (well, a black man/white woman IR couple). And I agree that is probably the only taboo anymore. People do seem accepting of other combinations.

    I have no problem with IR dating/marriage as long as the folks are in love. The only time it bothers me is when folks (no matter what their race) claim they aren’t attracted to anyone in their own race. That just smacks of self hatred and a jumbo size bowl of issues.

    • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

      “I have no problem with IR dating/marriage as long as the folks are in love. The only time it bothers me is when folks (no matter what their race) claim they aren’t attracted to anyone in their own race. That just smacks of self hatred and a jumbo size bowl of issues.”

      On the other hand, there are people who solely date outside of their race because they claim they get treated better by people of another race.

      • camilleblu

        “On the other hand, there are people who solely date outside of their race because they claim they get treated better by people of another race.”

        straight bullshyt, no chaser…

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/pervertedalchemist1 Perverted Alchemist

          I know, but I’ve heard it too many times to count.

        • Malik

          The people who do this always make every single simple decent act a non-Black person does for them 10 times what it is and applies it all non-Black people they date. Whereas all the Black partners they’ve had have all of negative qualities morphed together and gets applied to all Black people.

          • Rewind

            That’s because years of years of the same kind of people treating you like sh*t makes 30 minutes of a new group of people being nice to seem totally legit.

            It isn’t right, and eventually people grow to see an azzhole is an azzhole no matter the race. But I remember how I used to feel so I get why people do that.

          • Kema

            “The people who do this always make every single simple decent act a non-Black person does for them 10 times what it is and applies it all non-Black people they date.”

            I dont neccessarily agree. Sometimes its just a cultural thing. So we may notice a practice done by a non-black personthat is not commonly done by the black people we date. Of course you could find a black person that does that same thing but culturally it may not be common.

        • Sahel

          Its all about the treatment in the end.

          • kema

            .

            • camilleblu

              *

              • http://missrosen.wordpress.com esa

                ~*~

                • Misty Knight

                  !

                  • Ms. Bridget

                    ?

              • h.h.h.

                (o_-)

                • Camilleblu

                  !