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A Guide On How To Properly Slander, Shade, And Insult Millennials…From A Millennial

As the youngest adult generation, Millennials seem to be under constant scrutiny from those a bit more seasoned. Why can’t they get off social media? Why are they so fickle in relationships? And how do they listen to this bastardized version of something we used to call hip hop?  How could anyone think booming 808s, triplet hi hats, and synths were hip hop? Where are the break beats? Where is Ja? Sometimes this generational judgement is well intentioned. A heartfelt plea for improvement. But at other times it’s plain off base. If you’re going to come at us, come correct.

The worst most flagrant offenders on social media? 40 and 50 year old aunts and uncles bombarding your timeline with photos of their decades-too-late glo up. (Hi #MrStealYourGrandma — also known as MrStealYour14-Year-OldBrother’sStretchSkinnies.) Relationship drama? Mostly skittishness from watching your baby boomer father try to juggle two families on the same street. And hip hop? Timbo has been playing around for ¾ time for a minute. Uncle Luke had the 808s bumping and there’s always been lyricists and party rappers. That dichotomy didn’t start with trap. It was there with crunk, it was there with ‘jiggy’ rap in the late 90s, it was there during the infancy of hip hop.

Not a millennial...despite how badly he wants to be one

Not a millennial…despite how badly he wants to be one

The start date for Generation X is commonly accepted as somewhere in the early 1960’s coinciding with the ability to “get it in” with a few less consequences thanks to birth control. There’s a few differing opinions on the the break between Gen X and Millennials. The Pew Research Center sets the divide at 1980, but 1981 is more appropriate. 1981 included some major events that experts consider for the exact date of the generational split: May 13, (The day Pope John Paul II was shot) or August 1st, the launch date of MTV. But those of us in the know agree on September, 4 1981, also known as B-Day.

Beyonce, of the House Knowles, First of Her Name, Queen of the Beyhive, Leader of the Formation, Slayer of Ivy Park, and Mother of Blue, is the first millennial.

The accepted end dates for millennials vary between 1995 and 2000, but the end date of the millennial experience trends earlier.  It’s hard to pinpoint an exact date but a number of significant occurrences in 1995 could be agreed upon. On May 18, 1995, Michael Jordan lost a playoff series to the Orlando Magic that Gen Xers pretend didn’t happen, Microsoft released Internet Explorer, 2016’s last resort web browser on August 16th, and the state of California released OJ Simpson, 2016’s most talked about 90s celebrity from custody on October 3, 1995. Take these dates into account when you’re staring at Desiinger like Fabolous or commenting on the activities of the Smith children.  They are not Millenials. Anyone born after the Summer of 95’ can make no claims to Millennialhood. They are future soldiers of zion against the machines, led by Jaden’s mother and Laurence Fishburne.

Now, that you have an understanding of “who” to slander, let’s get into some of the real shortcomings of Millennials that are worthy of correction or at least soft spots ripe for ridicule.

Gen Xers, unlace your timbs, recite the Living Single theme song and look in the mirror to practice some of these talking points:

Millennials, please stop using GoFundMe to fund personal leisure travel. No, I’m not going to chip in 5 dollars so you can have a spiritual awakening in India. This isn’t Eat. Pray. Love. How about you Save. Your. Money. Extensive travel is a luxury that many people do not have the ability to do and even though travel is an enriching experience, traveling doesn’t make you “better” than those who can’t. It would behoove you to use your ability to crowdsource funds to start a business with friends, put a down payment on a vehicle, or pay for education.

Millennials, skipping church for brunch does not make you modern or truly agnostic. How many Christian boomers in your own family have arabic names? How many five percenter rappers did you grow up listening to? The overarching cultural hegemony of Christianity in Black america is powerful, but don’t think that Millennials were the first generation to question it. Alice Walker had Shug Avery and Celie talk about their idea of God in the “Color Purple” in 1930’s rural Georgia. Maybe you could learn about that struggle from someone older than you.

Millennials, teaching is hard. Respect teachers before you complain that Teach For America didn’t train you enough even though you only joined as a plan B because you couldn’t pass upper level biology. Don’t tap out of the profession because you feel angsty that your master’s degree can’t save every child. While some Gen Xers and Boomers may be jaded, others have helped thousands of children and can be resources for continuing to fight for youth.

Millennials, drugs are bad. Now, doing drugs or even being addicted to drugs does not affect your intrinsic human value. We’re all people. We all deserve love and crab legs. We certainly don’t deserve to be locked up. But, drugs do affect your health, finances and relationships. At some point, especially, in hip hop, the cool guy character changed from a hard drug dealer to a hard drug user. Children of the Ronald Reagan era should be a bit more scrupulous about swinging by Walgreens before the function just because Future said so. Lil Wayne’s history of seizures, Pimp C’s death, and DMX’s latest Breakfast Club interview should be enough of a warning to leave Xanax, Percocet, lean, deer antler spray and ghost pepper sauce alone.

Hopefully, these are helpful tools to keep your millennial slander on point and keep you from being a hypocrite. (Which we all know is very difficult for you.)

Brandon Harrison

Brandon lives in LA and has Hollywood stories that rival those of Rick James. He prides himself on staying righteous and knowing more about basketball than you.

  • Tyrell Holmes

    WTF am I supposed to do at work now????? Stupid Army Cyber people :-(

    • Ess Tee

      Daaaammmmnn, bruh! The Army came back the day after independence like, Nope! Not with those rabble-rousers, you won’t.

      • Tyrell Holmes

        it’s sad that it’s 10:16 and my phone battery is on 38% I even clicked on the “click here” link and it led me to nowhere…who do I need to talk to???? lmao

        • Ess Tee

          Where’s your charger?!

          • Tyrell Holmes

            look….it was a long weekend…I left it at home…my bad lol

            • Ess Tee

              Sorry, Ty. I’m so sorry.

            • cakes_and_pies

              You only have one?!

              • Tyrell Holmes

                I got like 4…but when I left the office Thursday I packed my work/travel charger and forgot to bring it in this morning

    • Tee

      What? I’m a check when I go back to work. I think I’m still good.

      • Tyrell Holmes

        mannnn they tripping over here…lemme know if you can get on…you work in the secret squirrel office over there so idk

        • Tee

          Not back until Thursday… #longweekend ?

          • Tyrell Holmes

            dang…VERY long weekend

    • Mizwest

      D@mn!!!! I think I’d cry…there’s always your phone.

      • Tyrell Holmes

        that’s what i’m on now…and ima have to run home to get my charger soon…but browsing thru the millions of comments is always easier on the desktop

        • Mizwest

          agreed!

  • kb

    Why does someone dressing fashionable mean they want to be a millennial? I mean the clothes he is wearing prolly designed by Gen Xer or older anyway. The only problem I have w/millennials like boomers think they world began with them, like they invented everything. lol

    • Buster Cannon

      Fashionable is fine, but the skinny jeans…ehhh…

      • Outside of 90s every decade wore skinny jeans.

        • Buster Cannon

          True, I just think they look terrible regardless of decade lol. Straight/slim-straight master race

        • this is true…look at the bands from the 60’s cigarette pants = skinnies.

        • kb

          Unfortunately not everyone can rock them, that’s where I believe the hate comes in :)

        • AnswerMe

          I think it’s the sagging of the skinny jeans that has people perplexed.
          https://m.popkey.co/21219b/Vqmm_f-maxage-0.gif

          • all types of sagging never made sense to me. always looks terrible.

            • AnswerMe

              Agreed. But I also understand young people gon young people.

            • Kas

              I’ve seen it pulled off, but it’s rare.

    • cyanic

      Fashionable and trendy are not mutual. Whenever someone chases trends not intended for them they’re attempting to be something they’re not.

      • kb

        Who are you to determine what is for whom? IJS he looks good and in Europe people of all ages dress trendy and fashionable so

  • As a Gen Xer, I’m here for every word.. but you left out that you shouldn’t be acknowledged for losing too… Millenials seem to have that bad… “I tried” should be an anthem. Lmao

    Oh and the uber sensitivity… uuuuugh.

    • Brandon Allen

      Naw. Millenials don’t like that at all. That’s some Gen Xer myth. That’s prolly for the “Warriors of zion” generation.

  • I was born in 1986 and I don’t feel very Millennial… Am I in denial? I don’t want to be one. I feel like if you remember hand-writing research papers, you shouldn’t have to call yourself a Millennial. 1981-1987 deserves its own category.

    Also, please get that grandpa out those skinny pants. I own that outfit on the left and NTTAWWT but I don’t think that’s the look he was going for. He couldn’t steal any of the women in my family.

    • Brandon Allen

      You’re not in denial. I’m ’89 and don’t feel like one either but that’s the card we’ve been dealt. It’s because people put teenage and collegiate activities on Millenials which is incorrect at this point.

      • Fair enough. It just feels like no one has anything positive to say about Millennials and I’m just here to say #NotALLMillennials

    • Lea Thrace

      “I feel like if you remember hand-writing research papers, you shouldn’t have to call yourself a Millennial.”

      This word you just said! If you remember life before broadband. If you remember AOL cds. If you remember dial up. If you remember trying to pirate music using dial up. Man this list could go on forevah. I aint no damn millenial.

      • LKNMRE

        I remember all that and I was born in 93, lol. I think people forget just HOW fast technology has been advancing over the past twenty years.

        • IlikeHotCheetos

          Born the same year, woot woot!

    • Lea Thrace

      Also, I own that red/gray stripe joint. Im salty af that it looks better on him than me.

  • Tee

    Why you gotta come for Irvin Randall though?

    I was born in 1982 and I’m not at all a millennial.

  • HouseOfBonnets

    Y’all know why I’m here…..

    • cyanic

      Who does that Suzie Carmichael think she is?

      • HouseOfBonnets

        The ish lol

  • Ess Tee

    Apparently, Mr. Steal Your Grandma told Demetria Lucas-D’oyley at Essence Festival that he’s actually more interested in your nanny than your granny.

    He needs to go.

    • aren’t all older black men interested in younger women?

      • Ess Tee

        Mhmm. He’s not unique at all, wanting that young stuff. He just needs to get back to obscurity lol.

        • He’s just 52, not quite a paw-paw, but not a youngsta either.

          • Ess Tee

            He’s 52? I thought he was pushing 70, but I guess it’s the gray beard.

            • Heard him on the radio this morning, just 52. And he told the morning show – Im not interested in your granny, I want your auntie…. LMAO

            • Kas

              I was impressed when I thought he was in in 60’s. His 52 look, makes me want to advise him to cut back on his carbs.

              • Ess Tee

                There’s also a side-by-side comparison of him sans beard. When I tell you that beards do for men what contouring does for women!

                • Jennifer

                  Yeah, that weak chin didn’t help. Beards are magic! I’m following him on FB now. I’m a believer. His advice to the young playas out there is hilarious! Internet fame is just a workout regimen and pair of capri pants away, gentlemen!

      • Kas

        Yes, and every other color of man likes younger women as well.

    • Proverbs31WIFE!

      I thought his interests lay elsewhere.

  • Sigma_Since 93

    Does Millennial = Namby Pamby ???

    It seems like all the kids that got bullied somehow have taken over and created the rules that the Millennials live by now

    Participation trophies
    No dodge ball in gym class
    No recess
    Slaves to technology

    And don’t get me started on skinny jeans. I understand that a tapered pant does present a better sight line but somebody took it too dang far!!!!

    • cakes_and_pies

      Don’t forget these nonsense ‘challenges” that consist of them simply taking pictures or video of themselves. The #pantychallenge is just so ughhh.

      • Tee

        The running man challenge.

        Meh.

        • Brandon Allen

          Remember that most of the things that irk you are not for you. One of the biggest shifts due to the Internet is that your “youth period”got passed for teens quicker. You hit 27 and pop culture passes you and youre longin for 2008 like it was dope when it was trash.

          • “Remember that most of the things that irk you are not for you.”

            We all reach a point when you don’t care enough to care because you aren’t in the target demo.

        • miss t-lee

          The fugazi azz running man, too.

          • Tyrell Holmes

            they coulda at least changed the name

            • miss t-lee

              For real.

      • Ess Tee

        My bestie told me about the #panny challenge on Friday, and I nearly threw my phone. What in the world?!

        • Cuz millennial ni66as

        • cakes_and_pies

          These chilrrun ain’t got no sense and have ignored any sort of thought of privacy just to get some followers.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            True but it’s always going to be the fault of adults.

            Adults make technology for other adults. But other adults like remaining stupid, and don’t like automatic change. So who adopts it first instead? Teenagers. And then they dictate the trends.

            So all that thotty behavior of today is the same thotty behavior of before, except the door is always open, the camera is always on, and instead of everyone at school knowing, the whole world does.

            I don’t believe any adults really want to set the kids straight, I think they like seeing them ruin their lives so fast.

            • cakes_and_pies

              “I don’t believe any adults really want to set the kids straight, I think they like seeing them ruin their lives so fast.”

              I don’t believe they don’t want to, they just don’t know how to do so. Secret apps, acronyms that make no sense, complete stories in emoticon, and urban dictionary terms of gibberish non-words make it difficult to stay ahead of any trend.
              I

            • Blueberry01

              I’m telling you that it was all over once Facebook opened up to high schoolers….

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                If it wasn’t FB, it would have been another site. Trust me, there are tons of sites that were up during the early years of Myspace & FB that never got a lot of attention because of those two, but if FB hadn’t opened it’s doors to everyone, some other site would have to accomodate the kids, and we would still have mostly the same position we have now.

                So the point is, adults were NEVER paying attention until it was too late.

        • AnswerMe

          I wanna know but I don’t wanna know.

          • cakes_and_pies

            It’s so vulgar and stupid I don’t even want to type it. I

          • Ess Tee

            Something about taking picture of the inside of their undies to show that their vaj is clean. But, like, there’s this stuff called discharge, and most of the time it’s normal, so…

            • AnswerMe

              Ok so…I wasn’t ready. Figured color or material of panties, but this is way too much. And I can’t unconfuse my face.

              • Ess Tee

                Lissen.

              • Illumina

                “Figured color or material of panties”

                This is what my uninformed self thought as well. This just seems…weird and stupid.

            • Buster Cannon
            • miss t-lee

              Like why?!?!?!?

              • Ess Tee

                Girl, I don’t even know why it started. I just know that my friend sent me a screenshot from a FB group that she’s in where the other women were asking the same question lol.

                • miss t-lee

                  Insanity.

            • Blueberry01

              WHAT?!?

              Wow…

              What was the other one: eating cinnamon and the icebox one…

            • Sahel

              I seriously regret my job at times,i miss out on alot that’s going on in the world lol.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        I pretty much ignore that stupid side of shock value twitter lol

        • cakes_and_pies

          This is why i don’t claim millennial.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Panty Challenge???? Get a copy of Oui and head to the bathroom!

      • miss t-lee

        LMFAO!!!!!!
        I hate this crap.

      • LKNMRE

        Blame Baby Boomers for fighting against comprehensive s ex education in schools so women and men literally have no idea how our bodies work.

        • HouseOfBonnets

          Well she got a point Y’all…..I mean the panty challenge proves this.

        • cakes_and_pies

          I read the buzzfeed article on it and so man young ladies were clueless until then. Some didn’t even know what ovulation meant. WTF

    • no offense but the “slaves to technology” is the most insipid commentary old people have to offer.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Look I had an Apple IIc WITH the color monitor, pong, colecovision, and all the Attari Systems. I was still required to go outside, my tv time was monitored, and we had play dates…at the playground in our play clothes…daily.

        I can’t say the same thing for you.

        • Shout out to “Oregon Trail”

          • miss t-lee

            I think in all the times playing I only made it to Oregon once.
            I was alone too, all the family was dead…lol

            • LKNMRE

              I always made it cause I picked that class privilege over everything else and always started as the banker.

            • Girl… I had dysentery so much i think i have it now

              • miss t-lee

                bwhaha.
                Typhoid!

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Props to “Where in the World is Carmen San Diego and Mavis Beacon Typing”

            • rlgreen91

              They still have those though

            • Mochasister

              I used to love Carden San Diego.

          • Brandon Allen

            *dies from dysentery

        • people are outside all the time and interact with each other in a variety of ways. shock and awe; shock and awe

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Where are the girls playing double dutch, kids playing freeze tag, the stick ball game in the street, the makeshift basket ball hoop with the milk crate???

            • Kas

              Where they do dat?

            • they have afterschool programs and more parks now so people aren’t doing that as much.

              • Sigma_Since 93

                The 4-H club took us outside. We planted gardens and played kick ball. Where’s this at??

                • Do you want me to go outside and take pictures of neighbors that have planted a garden dude? If the world is in such an awful state I PROMISE YOU it’s significantly more your generation’s fault than mine.

                  • Sigma_Since 93

                    This is the difference between your generation and mine summed up in two exchanges:

                    Parent: Go outside and play

                    Child: I don’t want to

                    Parent: If you don’t get your azz outside….

                    Child: *ends up outside playing

                    2) Parent: Didn’t I tell you not to…bring yo azz here!

                    Child: Imma tell the cops

                    Parent: Welp I’m glad I set that bail fund up

                    • Buster Cannon

                      Isn’t that on the parent though?

                    • Mochasister

                      This is my parents down to a t. They came up in the ’50s and ’60s Black community. NOTHING intimidated them. I remember one time I told my father is was running away from home and he said good and take your brother with you. Another time my kid brother told my mother that he would call the cops on her if she beat him. She told him there were some things worth going to jail for. Black Boomer parents were no punks!

                • IlikeHotCheetos

                  *screams* KICKBALL!!!!!! That was my ish. My 6th grade gym teacher stayed livid at me b/c I’d kick the ball too hard and he’d always have to go around the fence to find it. Good times. ?

            • And play kickball in the street

            • LMNOP

              Knocking on my door to see if I have any popsicles.

        • LKNMRE

          You can blame the advent of the 24-hour news cycle–pioneered by the OJ trial–that made parents like mine believe in an increase in violent crime and made it so parents–again, like mine–felt unsafe letting their children go outside and play unattended.

          • Buster Cannon

            Yeah, depending on where you live, going outside isn’t the best option. I remember when we had the DC sniper incident way back when, and we were all practically on lockdown.

            • Blueberry01

              YOOOO! I was in undergrad in this area during that time and EVERYONE was shook. Everyone was in their car while pumping gas, the playgrounds were desolate…

              You just never knew when or where he’d strike, again….

        • cakes_and_pies

          A friend on mine told her youngest son to go outside and play with the other neighborhood kids. He didn’t want to so she gave him the choice to go outside or do chores. His little boy chose chores.

          Da’hayle

          • Buster Cannon

            Probably an introvert that didn’t want to be bothered with people at the moment lol

            • Blueberry01

              Nope, I’m an introvert and I’d be damned if chose cleaning up the bathroom over going on my personally inspired nature walks.

              But then again, I’m #82.

          • ????

          • Sigma_Since 93

            I’d rather be beaten like Kunta or dragged by the four horse men than to have outside privileges taken away

            • cakes_and_pies

              Look, if i didn’t run out the house before Soul Train came on, I was stuck like chuck. I didn’t even want to come in to get water out of fear I’d have to stay in.

              • Sigma_Since 93

                weekend life didn’t begin until Soul Train and Saturday morning cartoons went off.

                • Mochasister

                  My father like to watch his kung-fu movies in the afternoon.

            • Mochasister

              I liked playing outside but I was also fine with being sent to my room. Give me a book and I was good to go.

          • miss t-lee

            Lordy. Chores were like the kiss of death.

          • IlikeHotCheetos

            ? he was like which chores I need to do? Wash the walls, fold the laundry, vacuum??? Those neighborhood children must truly be horrendous.

        • Umm my generation is probably one of the last that actually spent ample amounts of time outside and had BMI’s under 26. Your sons and their peers are part of that sedentary lifestyle.

          • Sigma_Since 93

            They would be if I left them to their own vices. Caddying in the sun along with playing golf in the heat builds character. At least I know they’ve walked a few miles with 20lbs strapped to them lol!

            • Your sons are the exception and not the rule though. They don’t get to be discounted from the generation you are currently sh*tting on.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        How so? Since the inception of the personal computer, each generation has been more and more intuned with technology without limitations.

        If my generation grew up with pagers, and then had cell phones as early adults, then the generation behind us got cell phones as teenagers, and now the generation after them got babies playing with tablets….where exactly does this all go next?

        • that doesn’t make someone a slave to technology. that’s us as a society and as a nation having technology more readily accessible. Farmers used to use horses and donkeys to tend to the land before tractors. That doesn’t make them slaves to technology.

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Let’s keep it 100, we probably spend more time using technology on non utility producing efforts now then what you called out in your example.

            • and? how does that make people slaves?

              • Sigma_Since 93

                With all the pong, Super Techo Bowl, Kung Fu, and Atari Football I played, I can still interact with people. I know how to write.

                I can’t say the same for your ilk

                • LKNMRE

                  90% of the articles you read on the internet are written by millennials. And what do you think we do on social media besides interact with people? For CENTURIES people have tried to find ways to ignore other people. Like your daddy didn’t sit at the breakfast table with a newspaper open in front of his face, like people don’t sit on buses with books or go to bars and just watch the TV. That’s not unique to us. If I can choose between talking to the a-holes in front of me and using my phone to talk to my best friend across the country, guess which one I’m picking?

                  • Sigma_Since 93

                    You have separated the curds from the whey. Let’s not pretend that everyone is out here reading because they have a kindle or computer.

                    I was made to read and write. We had summer reading lists. If it were not for daddy being mean, my kids wouldn’t have read half the stuff they have if I left it to the school system. Yeah that’s me being a parent but in my hood introverts and extroverts went outside and could have a “serious” debate over who would you take in a fight Wolverine or Superman.

                    • LKNMRE

                      My “hood” was a huge apartment complex and full of adults so I couldn’t really talk to anyone. At school, I was bullied heavy until like, halfway through high school so, again, I couldn’t talk to anyone. If it weren’t for the Internet, I’d be horribly adjusted now.

                    • Blueberry01

                      I’m sorry to hear this. I’m glad that you made it through.

                    • Chinasa

                      I’m proudly a millennial (born in ’90), and my public library’s + my daddy’s mandated summer reading lists raised me, so….
                      introvert, but stayed in the summer sun during my youth, so it wasn’t us staying in the house…

                • “Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.”
                  ? Marcus Tullius Cicero

              • Sigma_Since 93

                How many of you can go a day without your phone? How many kids would take long walks off short piers of you made them go without gadgets for a day, week, month???

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            You’re right, it doesn’t make someone a slave to technology.

            When they forgo all prior knowledge of how things were done before current technology and invest themselves so much that they willingly give up all access of their life to it, that’s when they become slaves to technology.

            And even people want to deny that, we’ve been on that path for over 25 years now.

    • YES… every word!

    • HouseOfBonnets

      Participation trophies, blame that on helicopter parents not us.

      • Nah, that participation trophy crap came along with the kids born after 99′

        I ain’t get no prize for participating.

    • Brandon Allen

      Yall started all that. I loved dodge ball and hate participation trophies.

      • miss t-lee

        We didn’t start participation trophies.
        If you didn’t win, you didn’t get a trophy–point, blank, period.

        • Brandon Allen

          Uh….who gave out the awards?

          • miss t-lee

            The coaches?

            • Brandon Allen

              Who are in what generation? Nobody likes those. Yall made them up cuz you don’t want to talk to your kids.

              • No you forgot the great rebellion of 97 where all kids rallied together across and nation and forced adults to give out participation awards or we would murder them all.

              • miss t-lee

                Sure, sure. Blame whoever you want to blame. Enjoy your trophies for absolutely nothing.

                • Brandon Allen

                  We didn’t ask for those. Keep your blinders on tho.

            • Crawford

              Well, now I know where us Millennials learned how to pass the buck.

              • miss t-lee

                Did you?

            • Sigma_Since 93

              No I blame the sensitive parents, who always seem to be on the board, that are mad that Timmy only got in for 3 minutes a game if that.

              • miss t-lee

                If little Timmy sucks, he sucks. You don’t get trophies for that.

              • Mochasister

                We won’t even discuss how little Timmy’s parents act during parent teacher conference.

              • Blueberry01

                Some parents are living vicariously through their kids…

        • If I ever had a kid the only things they are getting after a loss is dinner, a ride home, and a lesson.

          • miss t-lee

            I mean…that’s how it should go.

        • LKNMRE

          Whoever raised us is who started it, sooooo…..

          • miss t-lee

            Well…I don’t have any kids, so…

            • Mochasister

              Bingo bango! I ain’t got no kids and i ain’t raise none. I just teach. I would like to discipline the kids more but my principal is a ninny who’s afraid of the parents. Are you Gen X?

              • miss t-lee

                Yup. Born in the late 70s.

          • IlikeHotCheetos

            That’s what I stay telling older people! Why do you think we’re the lil monsters y’all claim we are? We didn’t raise ourselves man. I’m in constant debate with the maternal unit about this, and also the fact that the woman had no frickin filter.

        • Conrad Bess

          I remember running a race at some work event my mom took me to when I was around 8 or 9 (38 in September), and I finished 4th. They gave me some orange “participant” ribbon. I tossed that crap away insulted. I wanted to win. That desire to compete and be recognized as a winner is being whittled out of kids. There are some leagues that don’t keep track of the score in soccer (football) games now. Sad.

          • miss t-lee

            Exactly. That sh*t is more insulting than anything.

          • Sigma_Since 93

            Just cause the league doesn’t keep score doesn’t mean the kids aren’t.

            • Conrad Bess

              That’s what intra murals are for. If I dropped a good chunk of salary for my seed to play soccer in a league, that league better have a list with a won loss record, goal differential, x means division champs, y means playoff team etc.

              • Sigma_Since 93

                We’re talking little league. When my son played t ball they didn’t keep score. The kids knew how many runs they scored and the other team scored.

          • Blueberry01

            I thought orange was 4th, green was 5th, and I forget what was 6th.

      • TJ

        Participation trophies are definitely a thing of generation after millennials and dare I say wypipo in the suburbs?.

    • miss t-lee

      Dodgeball built character.

      • You ain’t shyt if you can’t take a red ball to the face without crying. PIDD.

        • miss t-lee

          I used to square up and straight mush folks. Loved that sh*t.

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          There are so many ways I turn your sentence into the most perverted thing ever, but I’m gonna be nice today.

          • I knew SOMEBODY was gonna go there.. Salute for having the balls …lmao

        • LKNMRE

          I guess I ain’t shyt. I will sob and threaten to sue.

      • In 7th grade, a young cogito knocked one of his homies smooth the f out. And I’m still proud of myself.

        • miss t-lee

          I know you were. I’m proud of you dawg.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Along with shirts vs skins

      • Mochasister

        I hated Dodgeball with a passion. I swear those white kids purposely threw the ball harder at us. I was glad to hear they took it out of schools.

    • LKNMRE

      Um, those are all things I grew up with, as a millennial. I had no say in their conception, you Gen Xers did that.

    • Mortal Man

      I never understood skinny jeans either. When did skintight clothing for men become trendy?

      • literally the entire time jeans have existed. LITERALLY

      • LKNMRE

        It’s been trendy dozens of times throughout history but if you needed to pinpoint an exact WHEN I would say around the 1400s when tights were in. Tight jeans, though, those started in the 60s.

      • esa

        1960s & 70s back when men used to rock some short shorts with high socks ..

        • dudes did that too in the 80s Hardcore Punk scene. DC was lit.

          • Blueberry01

            I remember in the early to mid 2000s in Brooklyn, Jamaican young boys named “shottas” only wore tight jeans.

    • Crawford

      The generations before us started the participation trophies and they only last up till 5th grade. The better question to ask is why the Boomers and Gen Xers made those rules.
      Slaves to technology is a trait you can apply to anyone in this day and age. You got a smart phone? Chances are you’re looking at it.
      As for recess, I haven’t seen it cancelled and if it is it’s less because of a fear of kids getting hurt and more about having kids learn for the standardized tests.

      I think we’ve let the news convince us that we Millennials are somehow weak when that may not be the case. Remember, Gen Xers were labeled as whiny, entitled slackers and y’all turned out okay. Just wait until we’re all in our 40s before you can say we turned out horribly.

    • Buster Cannon

      While I agree that a lot of the rules Millennials live by are dumb, remember that the PARENTS of said children are the ones that let this happen in the first place.

      *sips tea*

      • Yep.

      • Sigma_Since 93

        Is it the parents or the kids trying hard not to be like their parents? I don’t know about you but I know I said I wouldn’t do certain things my mom did with me. Sometimes I find myself quoting things she said or doing things she did.

        • Buster Cannon

          The kids aren’t the ones responsible for recess being gone, participation trophies, and no dodgeball in gym class. They don’t have the authority to shut that down. That’s all on the adults.

    • IsitFridayyet?

      I’m a millennial and we played dodgeball in my gym classes, received the “give yourself a pat on the back” instead of participation trophies and had recess. So, I don’t know the “millennials” you are referring to.

    • TJ

      Definitely had dodge ball in school, and I’m born in ’89. You’re talking about whatever comes after millennials? What do we call children born after 2000 anyway?

      • Crawford

        I’ve heard the term “Generation Z” and I’m already seeing articles about how to market to that generation.

      • LMNOP

        Children.

  • Dang – wait im considered a millennial ’82. I.DO.NOT.SUPPORT. THIS.CLAIM. I really think If you were born between ’80-’87 we should really have our own category. Not quite a Gen Xer and not a millennial for sure. I think that we got the best of old school parenting – while watching technology & the interwebs come about.

    I AINT CLAIMING IT. Nope it ain’t for me. I cant relate to these young thunderkats.

    • Tyrell Holmes

      1984…and I fully support this comment

    • 1983 checkin in. We are on one accord.

    • AnswerMe

      I stopped reading at the year assignments cuz one thing I am not, is a millennial.

    • Tee

      82 here. I’m not claiming that millennial status.

      • I agree. What are we? Somebody write an article about us!

        • Brandon Allen

          In denial

          • cryssi

            See I always based millenialism on if they were able to watch Rugrats in it’s prime, pre-Dill, and remember it. Basically 1985-99.

            I don’t see Bey as a millenial at all, and not just because I’m a Beyonce birther who doesn’t believe that is actually the year she was born. I believe firmly that she was born in 1978 or 79. She just doesn’t seem like she belongs in the same generation as Drake, Rihanna, Big Sean, and Ariana Grande.

            • amina

              “A Beyoncé Birther” this is intriguing.

              • cryssi

                I’m going to need a birth certificate, sworn documents, and birth video to believe she was born in 81…

            • Jetty

              Pre-Dill! LOL… I loved rugrats!

          • Hammster

            Amen

          • Lol ok Brandon

    • StillSuga

      ’81 supports this claim – no millenial status here

    • ’86 agrees.

    • Brandon Allen

      Listen I know how you feel. But just accept it. Call yourself Gen Y. But we can’t just keep pushing back the dates indefinitely

      • AnswerMe

        They start at 1989 or 90.

        • Brandon Allen

          Listen I was born in 89 I remember what it was like before. If you were in college in the 00s you a millenial.

          • still aint having it…

          • AnswerMe

            Nooooope.

    • miss t-lee

      They keep changing these dates.I can’t keep up on who’s who, and what’s what.

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      Agreed..I’m no milennial…damn sure aint Gen X.

      All I know is being born in 83 makes me completely awesome. .

      • LMNOP

        Almost as awesome as 82.

      • Mochasister

        Then what are you pray tell? You’re only four years older than my kid brother and he’s considered to be a millenial. I’m not sure what his daughter is who just turned seven. I agree that you’re not Gen. X; I remember growing up and hearing that term applied to us. I’m 73. You definitely are not a boomer; they are the generation that came along after the war. Are you Gen. Y?

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          I can’t even tell. They would say it’s mostly Gen Y but I feel like milennials are the true Gen Y. I feel like people in my age group are just somewhere in the middle of both X & Y, and it is a weird position.

          But someone earlier also said there are early & late people in Gen X. So maybe I’m late Gen X.

          All I know is I saw the end of a dynasty, watched a new dawn occur, then mastered it with ease, and now I’m watching people younger than me take their place in the world.

          • Mochasister

            Naw, home man. You ain’t Gen X. Lol! You’re as bad as my principal who wants to try and pretend that she’s in my age group when she’s got at least a good ten years (and probably more) on me. She’s too old for Gen X and you’re too young. Gen X is mines, all mines I tell you!

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              lmao see I have no place!

      • Blueberry01

        :starts singing Shy Glizzy:

    • I was born in 79 and my brother in 78 yet we get lumped into the same group as my sisters who were born in 65 and 70 a lot of this is painted with a broad brush. Me and my brother’s life experiences are a whole lot different than our sisters.

      • Cleojonz

        This is my and my brother as well. I’m 72 and he’s 63. An almost decade makes a huge difference in life experiences.

        • KB

          63 is still considered by many to be part of the baby boomer generation.

          • Mochasister

            I should hope so. I never thought Gen X started in the ’60s.

          • Cleojonz

            It certainly was in my family. My dad is one of 7 and him and his brothers were procreating like a mother effer.

        • Mochasister

          I’m 73. I thought the boomers were born in the 50s and early 60s. My principal is a good 10-13 years older than me but in her mind she’s in my age group. I can’t be having that heifer in the same generation as me!

      • Jay

        Same. I was born in 78 and a sum total of ZERO of my memories are from the 70’s. I couldn’t describe what life in the 70’s was like if I had a gun to my head.

      • cakes_and_pies

        Born in very late December of ’79. I don’t belong anywhere.

      • Dmaclee

        I was born in 77 and hubby was born in 66. Two totally different life experiences. Totally.

      • MsSula

        We are the “Oregon Trail Generation”. This article spoke to me.

        https://socialmediaweek.org/blog/2015/04/oregon-trail-generation/

    • Dougie

      85 here. And We’re all definitely millennials. We’re the young folks at the job for the most part. We all have like 30 to 40 more years of working our jobs. We all came into our own at the end of the millennium and into the beginning of the new millennium. We’re millennials, just accept it.

      • Hammster

        I have accepted and have no issues with being a millennial. People really give us a hard time for nothing at all. We were all just born during the same generation. It doesn’t make us a monolith. If anyone is to blame for the perceived behavior of millenials it’s the generations that raised us.

        • Amen

          ” If anyone is to blame for the perceived behavior of millenials it’s the generations that raised us”
          They not trying to hear that though.

        • Wild Cougar

          Classic millennial trait. Blame others for your own behavior.

    • kadietweets

      Same here, I’m ’85. I feel so caught in the middle, and yeah we got the best of both worlds (the closing of one chapter and the opening of another). I’d say millenials are really 1990-2000. Trap music confuses me and I’m so over gofundme campaigns. So over it.

      • AnswerMe

        agreed. I see huge differences between early/mid 80s to early 90s babies.

      • Trap music has been around:
        Master P/no limit
        Cash money
        Jeezy and a host of others. This is some new fangled trap music.

        • Blueberry01

          Trick Daddy
          Crime Mob
          who else….

          • PUSH THRU Blueberry,
            Slim Thug
            Tela
            Scarface
            UGK

    • I agree. Millenials, IMO, are far younger than what the article states. I’d go with anyone born after ’85 as a loose date, but really 1990 is good hard date.

      • LKNMRE

        The word millennial implies we grew up and were teenagers in the new millennium, so, it’s not too young at all.

        • I’m 37. My daughter was born in ’99. Nah. Her and I have different experiences. No way I’m in the same generation as her.

          • L8Comer

            Definitely not. Neither of you are millennials. millennials ends around 1995 so she’s not, and starts around 81/82 so neither are you.

            • Fuck all Nirvana fangirls

              Actually a millennial is from 1980-2000 so yes 1999 is a millennial. Born in 1996 and a proud millennial. #dealwithit

          • LKNMRE

            Your daughter isn’t a millennial, she wasn’t a teenager before 2010.

          • LKNMRE

            You’re not a millennial, either, you weren’t a teenager between 2000-2009, either…

    • Ok but that’s not what the generational break down said. You’s a Millennial.

      http://i.imgur.com/tZuy0HB.gif

    • FarbissinaPunim

      ’81 here. Pre B-day. I’m definitely not a millennial. A co-worker said those born between 80 and 82 should be the Oregon Trail generation because we tend to be the only age group who played that game.

      • 1981 here, and yes! Oregon Trail forever!

        • brothaskeeper

          “You have died of dysentery”

          • TheWriteOG

            LMBO

        • Sweet Ga Brown

          Born in 85 and I played that in middle school circa ’95-99.

      • TJ84

        ’84 and I played it! Damn sure not a millenial!

      • BrownBearBear

        ’85 Here. I played Oregon Trail like it was going out of style. You can still actually play an old school emulator version online. When your traveling group is Bey, Jay, Kayne, Kim and Caitlyn….Your journey gets interesting. Let’s just say Kayne died first, of dysentery

        • Semiotexte

          Yeah,but did you play the original, in school on an old Apple IIe?

      • KB

        81 represent. We can definitely be seen as tweeners who exhibit qualities of both Gen Xers as well as Gen-Y/Millenials. It was our generation who really grew up during the transformation of the digital age and though not completely consumed by it (i.e. those born after 1995), we definitely have been able to adapt to it with relative ease.

        Also, sup fellow Tusconian.

        • FarbissinaPunim

          Ok, so we’re the same age and we live in the same town where there see 12 black people. When are we going to lunch, sir or madam?

          • KB

            I tried to DM you awhile back but Disqus doesn’t have that option and leaving my number on a comment seemed weird. Hit me up at keithbush17@gmail.com

          • KB

            I tried sending you a DM but Disqus doesn’t have that option and leaving my number in the comments section seemed a little weird to me. Hit me up sometime at keithbush17@gmail.com

      • iLordByron

        ’86 here. Oregon Trail got me through my 4th and 5th grade computer classes. I’d run through those typing exercises in like 10 min and then start praying for dysentery not to wipe out my family.

        • TheWriteOG

          Remember Mavis Beacon?!

      • ChokeOnThisTea

        ’86, but my sister (’88) and I played it tho.

      • Brad G

        I was 88 and played Oregon Trail guh stop

      • Cj

        You always die of
        Dysentery

      • heyheyno

        I was born in 88 definitely played that game. Based on your argument you are still a millennial lol

      • Cleojonz

        Are you kidding? I’m 72 and I played it probably about the time you were born. Of course we had awful screens then, orange or green font only. Just the worst.

      • cecilywiggins

        I was born in 1976, and we played Oregon Trail as well in school. The first iteration was released in 1974.

      • Tea and Vinyl

        Born in ’84, definitely played Oregon Trail. And that fishing game with the osprey.

      • Keisha

        LOL…I loved Oregon trail!!! ’84 here. :-)

      • TheWriteOG

        ’86 but loved me some Oregon Trail!

    • ChokeOnThisTea

      Agreed. Don’t forget, we were the last generation to actually play outside. I don’t understand these new kids or these New blacks.

      • Who keeps telling y’all that y’all were the “last generation to play outside”. What does that even mean? Lol I wish y’all would age gracefully and let all this botox go, it’s messing with your perception.

        • ChokeOnThisTea

          Lmao! Bye, Ruby.

          • Gravity is going to do what gravity does. Let it happen.

        • LMNOP

          My 10 year old plays outside all the dam time. With other children, who are all in the new post-millenial generation. And everyone will blame all of their problems on their millenial parents. It’s the circle of life.

        • Nicole

          Right! Because I was born in 87 and I played outside errrday and still carved out some time to play Sonic the Hedgehog on my Sega Genesis.

          • Nicole

            …….and I also had time to play PacMan and that spaceship game on my computer with that good old joystick.

      • Gibbous

        As an outdoor enthusiast and a professional promoter of outdoor play for kids, the last generation to let their kids outside were the parents who had children pre 9/11.

        After that, parents held on to their kids so tightly, the kids can’t hardly breath or do anything on their own without mom or dad hovering to ensure little johnny is OK.

        If your kid never falls down, he or she will never learn to get up on their own if you’re constantly picking them up and blaming something or someone else for the fall. It’s called resilience and we’re breeding it out of our kids.

        • Blueberry01

          #HelicopterParents

      • Brandon Allen

        Not true.

      • Mochasister

        Wait a minute. You guys played outside? I honestly thought my generation was the last to play outside. Congrats on the new bae!

        • ChokeOnThisTea

          Thanks, girl! And yep, we definitely played outside. You’re looking at an early 1990s kickball champ. ?

      • Uncategorized

        All 5 of my kids play outside. Still use sidewalk chalk and everything. Of course it had to be hosed off immediately because HOA.

      • whooo chile…the NEW blacks – don’t even get me started

    • Blueberry01

      I thought we were considered Generation Y? #80sBabies

    • heyheyno

      Yes you are a millennial stop denying it lol. Come on over here with me boo 88′.

    • Semiotexte

      This is absolutely the truth! We came upon the interwebs as fully functioning teens so we brought our previous experiences to bear on the platform. We grew up valuing actual unmediated interaction with other humans. That’s why we created Facebook, MySpace, and Black Planet. We saw the internet as a place that you occasionally go to in order converse with people you don’t get to see face to face. It was like an interactive tv, telephone and newspaper. The millennials, on the other hand, are part cyborg, who can’t imagine a life not fully integrated with the digital. They are snapchatters, viners and whatsappers who are always in touch with others, their life experiences being fully integrated and mediated through new media and consider their mobile device to be a fifth limb.

  • HouseOfBonnets

    “Millennials, please stop using GoFundMe to fund personal leisure travel.”

    This alone is worth repeating to everyone on my Facebook feed if we’re being honest. If you wanna travel get on Groupon and find a deal with your tax return like the rest of us.

    *This also applies to using gofundme for helping start your business (Kickstarter and indiegogo exist for a reason, in addition at least come to me as a potential investor), Hennessy bottle runs, and sorry to say funeral expenses (because we need to teach financial literacy/basic estate planning to everyone).

    • Tyrell Holmes

      the funeral expenses one be so sad…like life insurance ain’t that expensive people

      • Kas

        I have contributed to two in the past year. Just sad on a lot of different levels.

        • Tyrell Holmes

          I have as well…one for a family member…right after I donated I called my mom and dad to make sure they were good so that I’m not the next one on posting a gofundme on FB tryna bury somebody

          • Kas

            I had a relative that I was sure I was going to have to kick in on. To my absolute and utter amazement, she had insurance.

            • Tyrell Holmes

              we once took collections at the wake for a cousin of mine

              • Kas

                It happens, nothing you can do but contribute.

        • HouseOfBonnets

          I see on average two to three a week….I’m in Chicago.

          • Tyrell Holmes

            yikes

          • Kas

            Brutal

      • AnswerMe

        I was thinking maybe life insurance doesn’t work the way I thought it did. Where I work, it’s mandatory.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        Same and while it sounds insensitive it’s the truth, ,my grandmother/family taught me about insurance, stocks and investing at an early age. While I still need help with the investing because (Have y’all seen the markets i think i would have a mini stroke daily). I assumed everyone knew about this but as i turned older i found out i was lucky.

      • miss t-lee

        those are always the saddest.

        • cakes_and_pies

          There’s one out there now a newly wedded husband put boiling water of his wife’s eye, tried to poke them out, pulled out her teeth and when she tried to escape, tied her to a bed and cut of her hair. That’s the saddest one I’ve ever read.

          • miss t-lee

            I saw that mess last night. I saw the news report too. That was one of the worst things I’ve ever seen/read.

      • LKNMRE

        My mother’s life insurance got cancelled cause she kept missing her $30 payments. It’s not THAT expensive, but it’s also not a priority when you can’t pay rent, sooooooo……I see that one.

        • Tyrell Holmes

          I can see that…sry if I offended anyone

          • HouseOfBonnets

            I overall blame this on a lack of financial awareness/literacy. Tbh we can’t really blame this on the ones affected since 9 times out of 10 their family doesn’t know about it either. So i guess the real question is how can we change this?

            • Tyrell Holmes

              awareness

    • miss t-lee

      Stop using GoFundMe except for extreme catastrophic need.

      • HouseOfBonnets

        ^pretty much, thanks for wording it for me. :)

        • miss t-lee

          Bet.
          I’m like, what happened to asking your folks, or hustling up the money?
          First line of defense is to beg strangers on your social media?

          • LKNMRE

            Some of our parents are broker than we are. And a LOT of us–especially LGBT millennials–have been disowned by our families altogether, so, that’s not really an option. Not to mention while like half of us have degrees, 40% of us with college educations are working minimum or low wage jobs, so “hustling” up the money is not really all that simple. Just yesterday, I contributed to a GoFundMe for a friend whose roommate had assaulted her cause she couldn’t afford to move. Another friend of mine who has attempted suicide from dysmorphia started one to get breasts to ease her depression. GoFundMe is great when used for good and not necessarily what one would call “catastrophic need.”

            • miss t-lee

              Hey…we all fall on hard times. However, you always have to have a backup plan of sorts. I’ve been broke, jobless, dayum near homeless. I understand when you have to ask folks for help. That I completely understand, because if I didn’t have help in those situations, who knows where I would be. I help folks who I feel truly need help.
              However, I’m not funding your trip to Europe, or your move cross country. Hustle up that money the old fashioned way, or guess what? Don’t do it.

              • LKNMRE

                I never said you should be funding trips or moves across country, lol, that’s literally two of the things I DON’T support using GoFundMe for. Though, I did just contribute to a friend to move across the country to be with her mother who is dying from cancer….so…..

                I’ve moved across the country twice, without help. If I fell on hard times, I know exactly how to get out of them but some people are lower than I am. When I was homeless, I wouldn’t have turned to crowdfunding but what I ended up doing, most people wouldn’t. I’m not gonna fault anyone for doing what they HAVE to do. GoFundMe is always optional, you don’t have to contribute, lol.

                • miss t-lee

                  I know I don’t have to contribute.
                  Back to my original point, “extreme catastrophic need”.

                  • LKNMRE

                    But who defines that? I found my trans friend wanting breast implants to be in extreme catastrophic need but plenty of people wouldn’t. Someone needing to move across country to get away from an abusive ex might not be considered a need to some. Heck, I’ve seen someone crowdfund to get a computer so they could work. Where is the line?

                    • miss t-lee

                      I don’t really feel like I should have to explain what a need is versus a want.

                    • LKNMRE

                      But you didn’t say “need” you said CATASTROPHIC.

                    • miss t-lee

                      Yes. “catastrophic need” to be exact.

              • LKNMRE

                I literally never said use GoFundMe for vacations or cross country moves (barring those out of necessity). I said I support it being used even when the need is not always catastrophic. GoFundMe IS hustling up money, though, it’s just another method.

            • HouseOfBonnets

              I don’t agree, speaking as a 25 year old that took alternative means to pull myself out of some ruts I’m not trying to say use your bootstraps but I’m noticing many in our generation aren’t even trying to use alternative resources/Opportunities before pulling out the gofundme links. I understand for things like medical emergencies and such but most of the gofundme’s I see on a daily basis can be solved/Helped with those resources. For example if you can’t afford your dream school look into alternative schools/programs, work study and scholarships (Millions go unclaimed each year), Baby needs (Look into aid and young mother programs/Non profits), Foreclosure/Debt repair* a chunk of cases (Move and then work on repairing your fiances, it’s hard but very possible), Buying a home (There are local programs to help, Plus if you need others for the down payment you probably can’t handle the mortgage and should wait) Business ideas take classes to educate yourself look into local grants/Programs in addition to creating a business plan with proper research and pitch to investors.

              There are other ways, I’m starting to believe some don’t want to bother.

              • miss t-lee

                “There are other ways, I’m starting to believe some don’t want to bother.”

                Agreed.

              • LKNMRE

                Yeah, but none of those things were on my list of things I understand, lol. That said, just to address a few things: work study doesn’t cover enough to pay anyone’s bills. My friend does it at her school and barely gets a good $200 a week. A lot of us are on the line between poverty and “fine,” so even in a case where we’re always broke after paying rent, we still earn too much for government assistance. People my age don’t even have houses and we aren’t even THINKING about getting them cause we have no money, let alone foreclosures, but student debt is CRAZY and you know that. Private companies literally prey on college age kids. And there’s not many grants for businesses that are really needed. I was looking into grants to start an app and the vast majority of those either go to white men or aren’t enough to cover the costs. And applying for them is time consuming as heck. There’s ways and there’s also obstacles to doing things the way we’re told, which is why GoFundMe and crowdfunding was started in the first place.

                • HouseOfBonnets

                  I get what you’re saying (well for the exception of the student loans because I’m kinda started in my career and I’m questioning if it’s even worth it to finish because….horror stories plus i have experience) because I’ve lived/ had to deal with a lot of that (especially rent) but from what i’ve seen changes/initiatives are being made in some areas, for example here in IL there are exclusive grant programs for women/POC to start their businesses, In addition chicago has a 1 to 2 year housing program that educates you on home ownership, assess your fiances and navigating you through the process. (Given i remember you saying you’re in LA and while gentrification has started here I know it’s running rampant there so take my examples with a grain of salt). I guess overall it depends on your location and what you’re trying to do but I will say I encourage exhausting all other resources before moving toward the gofund me link. I mean even with kickstarter/Indiegogo you’re seen in a more legitimate light/receive something for participating.

                  • LKNMRE

                    I don’t support using GoFundMe to buy a house or start a business, though. I support circumventing the entire system and using KickStarter, honestly, because, especially if you’re offering a product, it’s a LOT easier to get it off the ground from there when you’re forced to deliver. That said, about home ownership, I don’t know a single person younger than like, 35 who’s even CONSIDERING buying a house. Most of us are just trying to make our rent every month, lol.

                    • HouseOfBonnets

                      True, as a matter of fact the ones that i have seen (there are many) come from people well over 35.

                      Y’all know better.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  So….do you think we didn’t have those issues before websites like Kickstarter & GoFundMe existed?

                  Most of us were broke as a joke, growing up in a strange time where the world told us “to be anything we wanted” only to go to college just for that, and be caught in a financial crisis in the likes that the world had never seen before, and be left with the biggest pile of crap in history to clean up.

                  It’s not I wouldn’t tell a young person not to use the tools available to them now, but I am going to say I am not going to feel the least bit sorry for them if they don’t learn how to deal with adversity the way people my age and older than me did. YOu can’t just say it sucks but then not recognize there are alternatives older than your entire generation at your disposal.

                  Only thing I can say in your generation’s defense is that despite being caught up in the financial struggle like my generation has, your generation has the chance to move ahead faster than mines because it didn’t hit you all as hard as it hit us. Which is why we emplore yall to be as smart as possible, not repeat our mistakes, and to be careful with what you’re doing because we were not.

                  • LKNMRE

                    A lot of issues have existed for a long time. That’s why technology exists: to fix the problems of the past. We ARE learning to deal with it and there are now MORE tools available to us. Instead of calling us lazy and entitled for literally building new options to overcome obstacles in ways that never existed before, you should be congratulating us for literally creating an entirely new system and economy. How do some of us overcome not having cars? Uber/Lyft/ZipCar. How do we overcome not qualifying for business loans or grants? KickStarter/crowdfunding. How do we overcome wanting to travel with less money? Things like AirBNB and Couchsurfing. You don’t need to feel sorry for us because we don’t feel sorry for us, we are building the tools that are building the future. That’s great that there’s “older” alternatives. I could take the bus instead of Uber, too. What we have that you didn’t is MORE OPTIONS. So, get into it.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      Um…people my age built all of those things you’re talking about.

                      And…..you completely are missing the point of what I’m telling you by lumping in stuff you’re conversing with other people about.

                      I’m not calling anyone lazy. I am saying that I can only really understand the pain of young people today when they look to both the past and present for inspiration. If they just concentrate on how things are now, and don’t put effort to finding a way around their issues because they just expect it to fix itself, that is a problem.

                      However, that has always been a generational problem, that’s nothing new.

                      Your issue is you don’t like your generation being lumped in with the assumption that young people just want to abuse what they have and not make the movements to do things in a better fashion. But my generation experienced that, and so forth. This is all nothing new. The only issue your generation really has is keeping your eye on the ball, because it’s too easy to forget about how things got to where they are now.

                    • LKNMRE

                      What are we not doing in a better fashion, though? You realize how much harder it is for us to do ANYTHING? And yet, a lot of us are taking the cards we’re dealt and thriving? Literally all of us are hustling hard, some of us harder than any Baby Boomer ever had to. It’s hard to keep your eye on the ball when like half of us can’t even find a job or a place to live. People your age are the ones driving up housing costs and not hiring us for lack of experience and calling us entitled for wanting to be able to afford to live. People my age are the ones trying to make a change while some of us still don’t even have groceries. Millennials are some of the BIGGEST activists trying to make a change in this world, trying to fix Y’ALL’s mistakes.

                  • rlgreen91

                    What? You wrote that second paragraph as if that didn’t apply to millennials. Like, 2008 happened man.

                    • RewindingtonMaximus

                      Ummmmm where you right smack in the middle of it, or did you just feel the effects of it after the fact?

                      Because that makes the bigger difference for most adults. If you are dealing with the aftermath (no jobs, funding cuts, etc) then yes it has sucked a lot , even more so if your parents were hit hard while you were with them.

                      But as an adult, when it happened, many of us were just getting our feet wet, we barely had plans out the gate. So when it occurred, everything we’ve been building to all our lives…just vanished. It took quite a while for many people to figure a way around it all.

                    • rlgreen91

                      What? I’m talking about the fact there was an impact on millennials, especially those just graduating college, during the 2008 recession. Too many older people like to conveniently forget that fact while complaining that millennials, especially the older ones, aren’t buying houses or reaching some other age appropriate financial goal at the rates they should be.

      • Kas

        This right here!

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