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A Dude’s Take on Amber Rose, Wiz Khalifa, Kanye West, Slut Shaming, and Messy Breakups

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Niggas have been trippin’ a lot lately, bringing all the Louis Vuitton luggage with them. Let’s unpack, shall we?

Yes, let’s.

Amber Rose is having both the best and worst last few weeks ever. Now she seems built for all of this so “worst” is more of a “nuisance” than it implies she’s holed up somewhere crying over the shenanigans of former famous exes Kanye West and Wiz Khalifa. Unless you’ve been under a rock, you already know the Amber Rose vs Khloe Kardashian dustup that resulted in Kanye West stating that he had to take like 30 showers before Kim would go out with him, which was an irony not lost on anybody considering that his now wife is kind of a famous jumpoff. I’m not even trying to be mean, that’s purely #factsonly. After dating Kanye, she dated and then married and then filed for divorce (is it finalized?) Wiz Khalifa and that has been a wee bit more messy, culminating with the recent release of the Juicy J featuring Wiz Khalifa song “For Everybody” in which Wiz takes aim at his estranged wife. That might be a little bit too clean of a wrapup on where we are today with this triumvirate, but hey, word counts matter.

I’ve seen lots of arguments, especially after Kanye’s comments that go at this idea of “how could you talk like that about a woman you used to love?” This is pure biship. EVERYBODY talks about their exes. Just because you aren’t doing it publicy doesn’t mean you aren’t dragging their names through the mud privately. While I understand the sentiment, you lose ALL moral highground when you talk about your ex privately and then publicly subtweet or subIG or subFB or however niggas sub these days. Just because you don’t say their name doesn’t mean people don’t know who you’re talking about. Wiz never said Amber’s name in his verse. Does that make it okay since its how most niggas operate? He’s a rapper. You gon’ get rapped about. Big Sean dropped “IDFWU”, one of the most petty songs in the history of pettidom – I think its brilliant, by the by – and never said his ex’s name? Does that make it okay? Exes slander exes. It’s what folks do. If shit was going well it wouldn’t have ended.

Now, many of us ATTEMPT to not be AS disparaging as we can be when talking about our exes under the cover of respecting the relationship. But shit, we don’t know what happened between Wiz and Amber short of the story we got that he got caught smashing twins or his (alleged) rampant infidelity. They might truly hate each other and the behind-the-scenes back and forth is getting to him. You’ve seen Wiz’s jeans, that man is an emotional wreck. No man whose jeans are that tight isn’t going to emote. It’s impossible. Wiz just so happens to have a much bigger platform, so technically he can’t “sub” without everybody knowing who he’s talking to. Is that his fault? No. The game is cold. My overall point here is that while I think Wiz need not write verses about Amber it’s not out of respect for his likely messy breakup…

…it’s because there are kids involved. Kanye needs to shut the fuck up talking about Amber Rose unless he only has nice things to say or at least non-negative things to say. Amber answered a question, perhaps kept it too real for some and then Kanye, when asked, decided to take aim by doing a bit of slut shaming (we’ll get to slut-shaming in a minute)…again, the irony and convenient amnesia. But Kanye has no truck here. He dated her. It didn’t work out. You got out without any permanent responsibility to her and then married the woman you had posters of up on your wall. Congratulations Kanye, in the world you live in, you won. Shut the fuck up.

Wiz on the other hand is a whole different story. Look, every last person alive who was dating somebody and it went terrible and you break up should be thanking their lucky stars that they had no kids. Stop being mad. You got out free. Maybe you lost a windshield. Maybe you got you got your heart broken. And maybe that was your fault. Sucks for you. But ultimately, you can move on and never deal with this person ever again if you so choose. This is a win.

However, the second that busted nut lands on the moon, the entire game changes. Kids require people who may actively hate one another to deal with each other for AT LEAST 18 years. And that’s assuming both are responsible adults who want the best for their children. That shit isn’t easy, b. People are petty. And when you’re forced to engage with somebody you can’t stand for personal reasons (regardless of whose fault it is) because of a child that you share, things can get dicey. Everybody thinks they’re above using their kids against another person. And many folks are able to be adults. But there are a SIGNIFICANT number of people – both men and women – who use their kids as pawns and collateral damage. I have no idea if that’s happening here between Wiz and Amber, but considering how they broke up and his subsequent birthday pic and statement and now this song, it’s not ENTIRELY out of the realm of possiblity that they really do not fuck with one another at all. And the kid is ending up in the middle. And when kids end up in the middle of grown up beef, shots get fired. Publicly and privately. Pain is real. Pain because of your children? That’s the pain that makes you act out.

To quote Chris Rock: “I ain’t saying he should have did it, but I understand.” It’s just stupid because nowadays these songs live forever online. One day, their son will hear how his father felt about his mother. At that point, who knows how his son will feel about his father then. How the fuck is he going to explain THAT to his son?

And even in that understanding comes the “why bro????” devaluing of this woman you dated and married into her stripperdom and basically saying she’s a ho who is just out for your money. You married a woman you loved who at one point happened to be a stripper. Same with Kanye. What is the point of trying to make her seem like a woman who was beneath you and not worthy of the slot you so apparently so graciuosly offered to her when you dated (and in Wiz’s case married) her with intentionality? The stripper thing is an easy target. Turning strippers into money grubbing whores is also low hanging fruit. But that shit is getting old. While I don’t think “you used to love her” is a good enough reason to not talk shit about somebody – circumstances are what they are, and peoples gon’ people – reducing her to a tired trope because your feelings are hurt, or worse, just because you can and folks won’t hold you accountable to it seems bitchmade. Ultimately, Kanye and Wiz look like bitches. Amber has seemingly taken the high ground with both of them and they look like petty bitchmade niggas now who are taking shots unnecessarily at a woman who seems willing to live her life while men and women far and wide stare in amazement at her body. She’s winning even when she’s “losing” as Kanye (who probably won’t do much more reckless talking about her when prompted) and Wiz take shots.

Every last one of us who has seriously dated anybody probably has TONS of ammo we could use against anybody. You date people, you get to see the inside of the closet. If you’re together long enough, you get the vulnerability and the super annoying shit. You get all of the mess and if both parties play fair, maybe you end up married despite it. Considering who they all are, Wiz, Kanye, and Amber probably have MORE than enough ammo to fill a few books. But the attempted slut shaming here just seems out of bounds. And mostly, ridiculous considering who is doing the shaming. It’s hustling backwards.

It’s how Kanye West and Wiz Khalifa continue to win at life but in this instance, both lose.

Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly (and gorgeous) for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. He refuses to eat cocaine chicken. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future. You can hit him on his hitter at panamadjackson@gmail.com.

  • I wish folks would just go back to shaming exes in gchat like we usedta do.

    • Exactly, like stop taking your Ls in public, Hov did that so hopefully you ain’t have to go thru that

  • pls

    amber is no saint, but she has never lied about who or what she is. that’s why people respect/like her.

    no matter how much her exes go at her, it never sticks bc she owns what she does. she hasn’t even said anything negative or mean about either one and they have lost their chit on these innanet streets. imagine if she stooped to their level.

    but irl, men will call you out your name for not showing interest in their catcalls, so it’s not hard to see how quickly things escalate after having had an actual relationship.

    • cancergirl08

      “but irl, men will call you out your name for not showing interest in their catcalls..”

      THIS! You never know a man until you tell him no.

      • skinnynow

        Praise hands for both of y’all!

      • afronica

        I’ve found that to be true with people in general. Tell somebody no and watch them slowly lose their ish, especially if you continue to quietly and respectfully say,

        “No.”

    • jess-s

      unfortunately some men aren’t the best with channelling their emotions when singled out for bad behavior. … it’s nauseating

    • BajeHoney

      Yes! People need to stop letting their bruised egos and hurt pride get the best of them in these situations.

  • Naw. Kanye can’t say a single negative thing about Amber. That woman saw that man through his mother’s death, at the very very least he owes her public respect for life. That’s a huge thing to go through and have someone you love help see you through that depression.

    As for Wiz, I don’t understand. You met her as a stripper. Why is she a terrible woman more for being the same exact woman you loved when you birthed her? I don’t get it. I’m young though.

    • HeyBooHey

      In short, she’s a terrible woman cuz she left. Some men will do all the dirt that was created, give you all the reason in the world to hate them, but won’t understand why you walk away when you do. So yes she was a stripper before and that didn’t matter when ish was rosy. But once things go left, what wasn’t an issue before is a big issue now

    • In Kanye’s partial defense, we don’t know what she was like behind closed doors. I’m not saying she did anything that wrong, but I can think of some ish that would cancel out being there for my mama’s death. The keyword here is a PARTIAL defense.

      • Thriller

        Kanye’s mother died in 2007. He broke up with his old fiance in 2008. I’m sure he was mourning when he got with Amber some time in 2008 but she wasn’t “with Kanye during his mother’s death”. At all.

    • MsSula

      ” Why is she a terrible woman more for being the same exact woman you loved when you birthed her?”

      She said No. Lol.

  • Charlisia Nwachukwu

    “Turning strippers into money grubbing whores is also low hanging fruit. But that shit is getting old.” << The Gospel according to PJ, Amen.

  • Charlisia Nwachukwu

    I just thought Kanye trashing Amber to boost him getting Kim was hilarious… He made a lateral move and tried to say it was an promotion.

    • Basically.

    • Val

      If you take away the money factor I think Kanye actually did worse than a lateral move with Kim.

      • Charlisia Nwachukwu

        oh you right.

      • KKay

        I mean with Amber, whether you her or not you have to admit there’s just something about her. She’s got personality in spades.

        With Kim, you could replace her with a cardboard cutout and probably wouldn’t be able to tell the difference.

      • Melissa

        Dude, the best part is…her alleged net worth is reported by her mother. Mmmhmmm. I buy that she has quite a bit, but some of the numbers thrown out there by Iceberg Kris? Nope!

      • PJ

        One could argue that he did go backwards. Great points V & CN.

    • miss t-lee

      Listen.

    • Real butt > poorly done plastic surgery butt

      • Wild Cougar

        they both got fake butts.

        • expert plastic surgery butt > poorly done plastic surgery butt

          • Erin Danelle

            Lol nice save

    • HeyBooHey

      I really just want Kanye to sit in a quiet corner and stop talking about Kim. Just love her quietly and leave us alone about it Kanye Omari

      • Nicholas Peters

        He loves his wife, he can’t tell the world he loves his wife?

        • HeyBooHey

          Sure he can, nothing wrong with loving your wife. But dogging out your ex just to proclaim how much better your wife is ain’t the way. And the way he speaks about Kim at times is irking

          • Nicholas Peters

            She hustled him..got famous and dropped him…he had a Lame N!gga panic attack

      • Erin Danelle

        Thank you! I’m always thinking the same damn thing. Love her inside and stop bringing us into your sad, sad, sad world lol

    • Melissa

      Seriously, I think Amber is a unique beauty with a lot of moxie and Kim looks like her face was made with construction adhesive. Honestly, I love to turn around a sh*tty Tuesday by conjuring up before and after pictures of The Silicone Stepford and making my plastic surgeon boyfriend tell me everything she’s had done in detail.

  • Dougie

    “For Everybody” is fire, #doe.

    • Lowkey

      • Dougie

        “She say she fuck with Drake. I ain’t surprised, everybody fuck with Drake.”

        Flames.

  • HeyBooHey

    It’s a shame when people can’t just part ways and leave it at that. Long a*s Twitter/FB/IG/LMNOP posts about how somebody did you dirty and how they ain’t ish for it…. man just leave me alone and get out my damn feed. I have enough info to bury my ex and you couldn’t pay me to do it. At one time I loved that man and it would make me look way worse exposing him for filth. Kanye & Wiz fail to realize that they’re so busy trying to look like they’re “above” her but making themselves look real emo and foolish in the process. And that baby is gonna grow up and have to see it all

    • Idk where this school of thought arisen from, the sh t you would say drunkenly to your boy that one night you seen her out and she was looking good in that red jawn, men go online and start crying victim unsolicited. New world yo

      • HeyBooHey

        They don’t have real friends to take away their keyboards smh

        • Friends don’t let friends post hurt

          • nillalatte

            You need to copyright that and put on a t-shirt.

          • HeyBooHey

            Friends don’t let friends post drunk

        • miss t-lee

          Exactly. Gotta have friends to check you on that ish.

          • Val

            And that’s why a lot of celebs do this kind of stuff. They don’t have any friends. Just groupies, flunkies and yes people.

            • miss t-lee

              Pretty much.

          • HeyBooHey

            Listen… I got friends, cousins and a sister to hit me with the “don’t do, please don’t do it” if I get too close to a fail. Without them, ratchet woulda been ratched smh

            • miss t-lee

              Indeed.
              Gotta have folks to rein you back in when you’re about to wild out.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        Nah its always been that way, just was never so easy to do it on a whim.

    • uNk

      Specifically on Wiz parts too. If he grow up internalizing his dad’s hate towards and gets a mindset that his mom was a Heaux, there aint one chick out there he is gona respect

      • HeyBooHey

        Not. One. Not his momma, his granny, his auntie and nem, the lady at the drive-thru. I get he may be hurt, but Wiz was irresponsible as hell for that

      • HeyBooHey

        Not. One. Not his momma, his granny, his auntie and nem, the lady that works the drive-thru.

    • afronica

      “At one time I loved that man and it would make me look way worse exposing him for filth.”

      The worse he turned out to be, the fewer people should know about it. I like to keep my idiocy under wraps. Only your bestie and your wine stash should know.

      • HeyBooHey

        Hell, even the bestie isn’t privy to the absolute worst of it. But dem liquor and wine bottles?!? They heard my cry and know all my dirty dirt dirt

  • Kanye also ruined the perfect closure that was Blame Game/Yeezy Taught You Well…it was perfectly timed, crafted, it was Jordan pushing off of Russell

    • miss t-lee

      Yup. Sometimes you say too much.

    • jess-s

      yes, “the blame game” told just enough to understand what they had was intense and that they are better off separated….

    • I was just thinking about that too. That was a perfect tell-off without necessarily being a jerk.

  • nillalatte

    Agreed. I don’t like Kanye anyways. He’s probably suffering from narcissistic injury. They like to try to hurt, publicly. Wiz, I haven’t seen him act out like Kanye, but putting someone on blast in a song is what singers do. I get the part about having a kid. Some just don’t care.

  • Tx10inch

    It’s funny this post is about ex’s. I don’t like to use the word “hate” involving another human being…but I seriously grown to hate my ex wife. The things that woman has done or tried to do to me post divorce would make any man swear off marriage forever. My two beautiful and smart children are the only good thing that came from that union. How does a demon spawn two lovely angels?

    • Get Tx a scotch.

      • HeyBooHey

        ASAPtually….damn

      • Tx10inch

        Crown Apple homie.

      • uNk

        with no ice

    • nillalatte

      I feel your pain Tx. Trust me. That post-divorce shyt is ridiculous. I’ve sworn off marriage and I’m holding to my vow, belee dat. I read an article the other day and contemplated the difference between ‘settling’ and ‘satisfied.’ Maybe if I ever feel satisfied with what a man can offer that I can’t get on my own, I might reconsider. Might. :P

      • Tx10inch

        I hear ya. I’ve got a good woman in my life now making me reconsider. Don’t think she would play those games tho….

    • Charlisia Nwachukwu

      A woman scorned… its true. When women want to be evil it is so calculated, and dirty… even in a fight. Men throw a couple punches.. women want to knife the girls faces so she has a lifetime to remember it.

    • I wouldn’t say my ex-wife is evil…but I do think she’s incredibly self-centered. Like the stuff that’s happened makes you wonder if she realized she was actually married. LOL

    • Carlito

      Bro, I have been through a similiar situation. Sad we aren’t able to detect the poisonous personality prior to extending families.

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