He's laughing now. Just wait 'til my hormones kick in. I'm a b*tch in the afternoon.
Have you any idea how close I came to typing “preggers” in the title? I’ve never actaully said that word outloud but I hear the boobs use it all the time. Then I said it out loud and never felt more emasculated in my entire life. It’s like saying something is fierce or delicious.
Anyway, we’ve all heard the rumor that Beyonce is once again pregnant. Mama Knowles came out and squashed that rumor but apparently forgot to tell Solange that her big sister wasn’t packing a Carter. Either way, we won’t know…until we know, ya know. It’s quite possible that Jay-Z and Beyonce are indeed expecting offspring. If they were, this might be one of the most famous munchkins to hit the third rock from the sun in quite some time.
Then I got to thinking. That’s what I do. I think. You thought I was just sexxy? See, you thought wrong. Not me? Oooh I think they like me. Boom.
What IF they were indeed pregnant? Hmm….this might actually have a real impact on the world. What kind of impact? Glad you asked. Here are 8 things that would happen if it turns out that Beyonce and Jay are actually having a human.
1. Barack Obama will declare the child’s birthday National Jayonce Day. I mean he’s already illegally invited them into places in the White House that they weren’t supposed to go. AND they brought Trey Songz. Yeah, that Trey Songz. Think about this people, Mr. Make The Neighbors Know My Name has held audience with Barack Obama. Plus, Obama has Jay on his iPod and has admitted to using him to get hype. Basically, Obama is a stan. He’d totally jock their kid. He might even try to knock Michelle up again just so they could have play dates together.
2. Kanye West would try to convince Taylor Swift that they should have a child together. Think about it, Beyonce and Jay’s kid will instantly become like the most famous baby (and richest) in a while. We all know that Kanye has a huge ego. No way is he going to let Jay upstage him on the family front too! Can you imagine the media firestorm that would follow if Kanye knocked up Taylor? That would totally knock Jay and Beyonce off the front page.
3. The economy would right itself. I’m not sure why, but this seems like a very real possibility. This kid could single handedly save the world. On some Jack Bauer sh*t.
4. Willow Smith would totally have to step her sh*t up. She’s the new “it” kid right now and seems like she could have a very bright future counting them BIG FACE HUUUUUNNNNIDS. But what happens if little Brooklyn Carter comes out doing a better singing/rapping impression than Drake? At age 2!?!!!! Yeah, Willow. Boyz II Men were from Philly like your daddy. End of the road.
5. Pr0n start Brooklyn Carter would get broke off. You know how in the NBA, NFL, and prison dudes pay for their numbers if somebody else has it? Jay has an entire lyric dedicated to naming his daughter Brooklyn Carter. He’s kind of stuck with it now right? And nobody wants to google themselves 20 years from now only to find out that the first five pages are full of pr0n clips. I’ll bet Jay pays her to change her name to like Bronx Carter or some other place that really sucks. Like Gary Indiana Carter or Rochester.
6. Jay and Beyonce would make a kids album. Some might think this could be a good idea. I actually think this might be the worst idea since the “Jump to Conclusions” mat in Office Space. I love Beyonce’s voice and all but I don’t know that “Twinkle Twinkle Little Star” has much room for never-ending runs. Hell, we think Jay quotes Biggie too much. How are we gonna feel when he starts jacking Dr. Seuss WHOLESALE.
7. Jay-Z making Baby Bjorn’s popular items to be worn, even if you don’t have a child. F*ck what you heard, I can totally see Jay rocking one of them joints with some mandals and a charm bracelet. Just like when 50 made bullet proof vests all the rage, Jay could make the Baby Bjorn the cool item on the block. Baby Bjorns will become the new murses. Mark my words.
8. Nas will FINALLY respond to that “leaving c*nd*ms” on your baby seat remark with an inappropriate comment of his own. It will be shortlived though as Jay will once again remind him that no matter how many albums he does with Damien Marley, he still made Nastradamus and had the worst verse on “Oochie Wally”. Oh…and, the state of New York is f*cking him more than Kelis ever did.
Roffle.
It’s Friday. Put your thinking caps on. Surely the world will implode if they have a kid on the way. But let’s pretend it might not. What else would happen if Beyonce really is pregnant??!?!
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-VSB P aka THE ARSONIST aka TANGLE JIG P aka 40P aka GIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRL HE A 3
Um…..Baby Dereon skinny jeans???
With a Roc-A-Wear button up?
The Roc baby rockers, like the swings that make babies go to sleep
Roc baby rockers
LMAO!
i TOTALLY see this happening.
Sh*t, I am still waiting for the “Roc-A-Wear Roc-A-Pad” sanitary napkins…
One pad can absorb half a bottle of Cristal…
yeah i think this is going to be the first in the new line of clothing provided from that family. the world is not ready.
this will be Bey-haters chance to see Bey “overweight”
perhaps being on maternity leave (o_O) will give Bey some time to reflect on the horrendous-ness that is dereon and do better
so. . umm. . .Fighting Temptations.
Naw, they really gonna hate her cuz you know after she have that baby her hips/ass really gonna be on point.
yeah cuz she was RIGHT in Fighting Temptations. even with that horrendous hair do she was sporting.
LOL now that you mention it, ima go ahead and pre-hate!!!!
if i could blink my eyes and have Bey’s body, id be batting the hell out my eyes. alas, im not made of money to have the type of personal trainers and personal chefs to get me on point *sigh*
Get ready, you know the hateration is coming.
It’s not hating if it’s true. LOL
I think her body is decent, but she works HARD for it to look just decent…so let the hormones kick in and her eating go out of control and she will blow up.
However, I’m sure she’ll return back to normal once she has her kid (whenever that is). I think that’s what folks will stay hating on. Me…not so much. I just think she will be plump, lol
o_O
oh mo *smh* im so disappointed…. lol
LOL. I’m sure she’ll get big. It’s obvious she doesn’t have “skinny genes”. I can tell she works extra hard just to stay “curvy”.
I always believe that Beyonce was the “fat” sister out of those two. I’m sure that if Matthew and Tina had more children, there probably would’ve been some big girls in their immediate family.
I think she can lose weight and keep it off. I mean she was mad skinny for most of the B’Day album. When I saw her in concert, she was not as curvy as I thought she would be, but lately she has put on some weight.
I think she got some backlash actually when she was super thin, so she gained it back. lol I dunno if the skinny gene exist cause once upon a time my sister was obese, but now she can’t gain over 135 unless she is preggers.
Yeah I’m pre-hating, but she started it. I think she and her handlers decided long ago that young straight black males weren’t her target demographic so putting out music that alienated us wasn’t really a priority. Don’t be mad at me, I’m just collateral damage, of course I’m going to be a little lawrys on the subject.
At First this seemed like something Champ would write until i got to: “Then I got to thinking. That’s what I do. I think. You thought I was just sexxy? See, you thought wrong. Not me? Oooh I think they like me. Boom.” I knew it was Panama.
Anyway doe *kat stacks voice*
if Bey and Jay do have a kid i think 1. Most men that have Bey on their lists of top ten beautiful women would drop her off the list until she lost the weight. and 2. i cant really think of anything else cause im still laughing at #8. Today was a good day, No Ice Cube.
do you know i went back and re-read what i wrote just to see if it sounded like something Champ would have written. lol.
it would probably take a lot to knock her off most men’s most beautiful list. especially since we know she’s gonna knock off any baby weight she gains.
i’m interested in the vsb perception of the difference between “something panama would write” and “something the champ would write”. i know we differ stylistically, but he’s (i’m assuming he’s a he) implying we have topical differences as well.
filed under “things that would make you say “hmmmm” if sitting around all day saying “hmmm” to yourself didn’t seem so gay”
I always thought your writing styles were different, yet similar. You write about murdering somebody, just so you can obtain a gray Members-Only jacket (I know some people who can get rid of bodies) and Panama writes about how he thought he had accidentally smothered his infant daughter (if you cannot tell by now, I was going through the VSB archives).
Similar…yet different.
“…it would probably take a lot to knock her off most men’s most beautiful list. especially since we know she’s gonna knock off any baby weight she gains…”
Busy-Bee has no choice.
I’m pretty sure that her parents are going to hire a drill sargeant, to make sure that she loses her baby weight.
I’m pretty sure that as soon as her doctor places that last stitch during the episiotomy procedure, her trainer is going to make her run laps around the labor & delivery part of the hospital.
he still made Nastradamus and had the worst verse on “Oochie Wally”.
That sums up my feelings on Nas. LMAO!!
Oh and if they really are preggers I can see toddler rhinoplasty being a hot new trend
And that baby lace front pic all over the innanets? Will no longer be a photo shop joke
Lil jaycareonce will be rocking a blond shirly temple lace front with a bedazzaled
Headband and rattle.
Trust
if your last paragraph is true, my guitar will gently weep for that chid’s future.
“Yo Jay, I’m real happy for you, and I’mma let you finish, but me and Taylor gon have one of the greatest kids of all-time. Of all-time.”
*Kanye shrug*
Oh. We still on that? Aight. Lemme go write a coupla these “I’mma let you finish” lines. I coulda sworn people made enough of these in sep 2009.
hmm…shots fired.
folks is feeling froggy this week. lol
Wait for it…….
*Kanye shrug*
- I would shed a tear, b/c the coverage would be endless & inescapable… waaaaa!
– Bey would sing some song dedicated to the kid (ala Lauryn w/ “Zion”) yet find a way to make it tacky
– they’d do Oprah, the entire hour. Lots of giggling & boring questions
– Dereon would put out a baby line, it would be tacky
– Kelly would make (yet another) big push to solidify her career while Bey is knocked, but it still wouldn’t quite work
– if it’s a boy, they might name it Oscar (as she’ll never earn one her d*mn self)
@Cali
YESSS to the to all!!!
THIS —> “– if it’s a boy, they might name it Oscar (as she’ll never earn one her d*mn self)” has me laughing way too much.
Actually though, as soon as Kelly would think it was safe to
come out with an album, BOOM! The Ultra Mega Delux Edition to Bey’s album would be released with never seen before videos and extra special personal footage of her in the studio, only to make us all forget Kelly’s existence.
Cali! Bravo! You need an Oscar for best response in a blog.
LOL, ok, it would be time for Kelly and Letoya Luckett to make their combacks. They probably been poking holes in Jay’s condoms and switching out Bey’s birth control for the longest.
I’m done with you and Hawaii. LMAO!
LOL I feel so bad for Kelly. Can she ever win??? Poor girl.
i’ve always wondered why Kelly couldn’t win. and i think its just her. while beyonce has the personality of a piece of cardboard she clearly has that “it” thing that makes her a superstar. Kelly just comes across as a nice girl but she’s largely uninteresting. and i think she’s uber banging yet i dont care about anything she has to say, do, sing, or write. you know beyonce be’s the block? kelly is more like a sidewalk pane. she’s out there somewhere, but unless somebody wrote a message in the drying concrete, you’ll never even pay it any attention.
LMAO. That was a d@mn good analogy! lol What I side eye is the fact that her best friend aka sista is the #1 female recording artist and Kelly can’t even get some radio play? Nor can Solange? What happened to the “i put on fo my city” mentality? Bey can’t put anyone on? She should hook her “sisters” up with her producers, etc. Poor Solange is shaving her head just to get attention. Dang Bey is greedy.
“What I side eye is the fact that her best friend aka sista is the #1 female recording artist and Kelly can’t even get some radio play? Nor can Solange? What happened to the “i put on fo my city” mentality? Bey can’t put anyone on?”
they been put on (and, unless she has a gambling problem we don’t know about, kelly should be a millionaire many times over). it aint bey’s fault that they’re not talented enough to stay on
True but were they ever on? Oh well, like you said they all got money so all should be good.
here’s the problem with that line of thinking. beyonce did everything she could to help these ninjas become somebody. just by association alone we all know who they are. thats more than 90 percent of the artists out here trying to make it. you cant make somebody a star that nobody gives a sh*t about. like it or not, folks cared about soulja boy. thats why he’s who he is. folks have to care. nobody cares about kelly or solange.
Good point. Nobody cares about Kelly and her songs have been corny. I read people comments on blogs calling Solange ugly. lol I guess standing next to Beyonce, you are doomed to fail.
I have a feeling that this is going to be a VSB topic, for one of these days. I can see the headline now…
“There’s No Gold Medals For Second Place: How Not To Be The ‘Kelly Rowland’ Of Your Crew”…
if it’s a boy, they might name it Oscar (as she’ll never earn one her d*mn self)
SLAYED!!
@ Cali,
I hatechu for your last line…LMAO @ Oscar
Dereon has a baby line. And it is tacky. I saw a baby recently in jeggings, a stretch denim dress with a high ruffled pink color, and a stretch denim jacket with ruffled sleeves. All pieces adorned with gold stitching and gold dereon emblems.
The only reason it was not repulsive is because it was on a 3 month old child and little clothes are so adorable. But that sh.. was a mess.
*spits soda everywhere at baby jeggings
What would happen if Beyonce were with child…
1. Kelly Rowland would find a couple girls and try to remake Destiny’s Child. She’s got nothing better to do…and I wouldn’t mind seeing DC (whatever number it is) in concert if Kelly wears that top again.
2. Some medium would have a contest on what the baby’s name should be. Wait…if the baby is a boy will it be named Houston. I like that…but I can’t see it.
3. Thousands of subsequently-born babies will have said baby’s name. This can be bad…you know the look that came over my face when I realized that children named Shaquille (in similar fashion) would now be entering college? It was similar to the “half” look…and the look y’all will get the first time you run across a LeBron in elementary school.
4. Someone – other than Kelly Rowland – will try to take Beyonce’s place. Can’t really come up with a candidate off the top of my head. Maybe Brandy comes back or something. You know, she may need a tape. Worked well for the girl who was with her brother. Oh, yeah: that’s right…we talked about the issues with that already.
5. Jay-Z remakes Will Smith’s ‘Just The Two Of Us’ remake…with a little more hood in it. Kind-of like he did with Hard Knock Life (Annie) and Anything (Oliver Twist).
6. Speaking of remakes, Bey would rock the Demi Moore on some magazine cover. It’ll get a lot of press and people will buy it. I won’t understand why.
7. Kanye West would interrupt someone else’s delivery at the hospital and…y’all know the rest.
8. Dereon (or however it’s spelled, and I can’t say I care enough to look it up) would have a kids’ line. If Dereon already has one…oops. I’ll blame my lack of knowledge in that area on the sentiment expressed between the parentheses.
Okay, I’m about out of thoughts.
1. Kelly Rowland would find a couple girls and try to remake Destiny’s Child. She’s got nothing better to do…and I wouldn’t mind seeing DC (whatever number it is) in concert if Kelly wears that top again.
i know exactly what top you’re talking about and i have looked at that picture so many times. something about nip*le shots just excites me. it gave me purpose. it gave me belief. it gave me free.
it gave me purpose. it gave me belief. it gave me free.<—-THIS!!!
if the baby is a boy will it be named Houston. I like that…but I can’t see it.
MURKED!!!!!
*waves hi to her hibou!
“What else would happen if Beyonce really is pregnant??!?!”
Maybe she will go away and we could get someone of more substance for the preadolescent VSS’s to look up to.
I doubt it though.
I’m with you on this one.
The first thing that would happen in deny, deny, DENY. She’ll call up Jennifer Hudson, and get advice on not admitting you’re pregnant until your child is a month old
Motherucking cosign
SN: What ever happened to Flight of the Conchords? Is that still around? hmm…too many motheruckers ucking with my shhhh.
*holds black card tightly to bosom* I’m not giving this one up, not again!
Brett (Yes.), Jermaine (Present!), Mel, and Murray aren’t coming back on the air. They were on The Simpsons a few weeks ago as Lisa’s Art Camp teachers. Honestly I’m going to miss that madness.
*me singing* It’s business, It’s business ti-i-ime…
i never got into that show. lord knows i tried. i just assumed i wasn’t deep enough.
their hour long hbo special was pretty funny, but the show itself was actually kind of corny
I think she shouldn’t announce it until she’s out of her first trimester just in case she has a mis-carriage. Telling the world you were pregnant but not anymore would be tragic in itself.
Yeah, not trying to be funny but nobody wants to relive Celine Dion’s pain.
And Lily Allen’s. She’s pregnant again now, but she miscarried when a few years ago right after announcing she was expecting
Lily Allen JUST lost her baby again…she was about 5 or 6 months pregnant.
i remember when i first heard this first tri-mester rule. once i found out i had a kid on the way i was so gung ho. then i was told about the possibilties, etc. it took everything IN ME not to go running to tell the world. i failed at that anyway.
Panamontana FTW!!!!!
LMAO…you’re on a roll today sir. Yeah, when I was pregnant, I wanted to tell everyone. I have a big mouth anyway so it was really hard.
tell me about it. when i found out, i called my parents, sisters, my boys, and im pretty sure i attempted to call oprah. she didnt take my call though…she was trippin
“I have a big mouth anyway so it was really hard.”
would “that’s what she said” work here?
LOL yeah I caught myself after the fact.
awww….
on behalf of cheekie.. i approve this message.
and die at the adorableness of panamontana.
She’s gonna wait to announce it until her SuperSets (corsets) and booty pads can’t hide it anymore.
“What would happen if Bey pop out a kid?”
2012 is almost here.
LMFAO! #DEAD
LMAO!!!!
LOL! You know, now that you mention it….I wouldnt be surprised if they timed the birth of their offspring to occur that year.
Hmm…Beyonce will definitely deny the pregnancy until she can’t anymore, but she will never admit that she is preggers.
She will probably make a bunch of music videos before she gets a bump so that the haters can’t make fun of her being fat and dancing around in music videos.
She will give birth and lose the weight in 3 months. Jay Z will probably not lose the pregnancy weight doe.
I think the fastest time for losing baby weight was Heidi Klum because she needed to to the Victoria’s Secret fashion show. Ok scary thing is happening right now. I’m listening to the radio and Jay Z nad Beyonce’s Bonnie and Clyde comes on.
*and
If Bey really was pregnant…
Matthew could advise Bey on how to take care of baby since he’s a
new daddy and has recent experience with babies compared to
Tina.
O_O
*packs up meager belongings*
*moves out of this thread*
Lol really though.
outrageous
SHOTS.FIRED.
lmao.
comment of the day award goes to….
LMAO……LMAO!
If they have a girl– Bey & baby in matching onesies… I mean, leotards…. no, I mean onesies… no… forget it.
this is the funniest shit ever cause I been swearing her and GaGa been trying pass off onesies as high fashion but I digress
YESSSS!!!!! I’m so mad you said it because I damn sur was about to post it!
sure
well, if she is pregnant, Bey is finally going to “sit down” like so many people have been saying they want her to do. but, as she has been in the studio tupac style, recording enough music to fill her vault, she will be releasing more music than ever before. her stans will love it. other people will be annoyed. riots shall ensue.
after she loses the weight so can do a victory tour when the baby hits 8 months, men are going to see her post body baby and demand that their current/future wives snap back immediately, sans the trainer
and girdles and butt pads, sans the food service, and sans the financial incentive, adoration and support. half the women will stress themselves out trying to live up this demand. the other half will look at their men stupid. confusion.LOL and you forgot a tummy tuck and lipo. Celebrities get that like outpatient procedure after giving birth. People really think they can lose their stomach 1 month after giving birth? NO. lol
Ummm…. some ppl do, it’s rare but my cuz and a close friend da#* near snapped back to their pre-baby bodies. My cuz had on a bikini at the beach less than 6 months after having her son.
Again rare and mostly due to good genetics but possible.
Oh yeah I lost the weight but not after a month. I have never seen that. Not saying your cousins haven’t lost early, there’s always a few exceptions but hardly near common.
i might have spoken too soon on the comment of the day.
how bout the REALEST comment of the day?
hmmm…If Beyonce’ was pregnant….
—A REAL DESTINY’S CHILD….that would be the title of her new album….and Kelly/Michelle (no Obama) would sing background like they usually did in the group..
—-Would the child have a ghettofrench name like Be-Yawn-Say or SALON-ge…(Mama Knowles did hair they just put a “ge” at the end of Salon and changed the “a” to an “o”…lmbo)
——She’d get THICK again ie “Fighting Temptations”/Bootayliciousvideo/TX Southern girl thickness would come out..like dem Hips would be huge, I feel like her and Alicia have to work really hard with their body types having a larger lower body,but Beyonce’ works out a lil’ more than Licia.
–Beyonce’ used to be the spoke$person for POPEYES and her ass will be eatin out the ying yang errythangs bigger in TX and fried in the South so she will/would most def Gain weight…her and Janet Jackson can loose weight in a heartbeak with their dance/discipline..etc.
..to me Beyonce’2010 comes off as a chick that would be like I’m not having a child, bc they will mess up my figure, but Babies CHANGE people, and she could get all Mushy gushy nice, I can see JAY bein 40 or however old he is bein’ a proud papa
—-No tellin’ what that child would look like, I know a few years back on the internet was a hybrid baby pic and the child had Jay-z Camelface and Bey’s lace front..lmfao! who knows how genetics will kick in, because her nephew, Jewelz looks like her! not his mama Solange
–Did they Use invitro or a surrogate parent??bc Hollywood celebs or somethin in the water with twins or ppl not wanting to procreate with JAY….but we know he’s got a BIG$EGO so….
—Rihanna hmm idk but I see Beyonce’ pulling a RING THE ALARM/OBSESSED move on her ass with those hormones kickin’ in…then again idk what to say about that awkward situation…..
—Nick/Mariah’s child. Nick Jr or Nicarey would play with Their Baby
not sure why but this comment looks very exciting.
probably the alternating caps and use of variant characters.
For the record: Bootylicious Beyonce was the Business that was ranked number 1 on the Forbes list for desirability. GOD. D*MN!
Mouth watering for real…let’s get back to that (laughs)….
Bond.
Bey would totally do the Harpers Bazaar naked bump cover.
A no1 song about the baby a la Celine Dion.
Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin would be godparents.
And definitely an icky, tacky Dereon kids line.
don’t skip the icky, tacky, ill-fitting Dereon maternity line
Aren’t Jay and Bey in the Illuminati?????
The kid would be the Antichrist.
j/k lol.
poor Bey-J
ouch!!!!!
I was going to say the samething(bout the kid being the anti-christ son) lol #nolilnicky
Love VSB. 1st time I’m actually commenting though.
Panama what if she’s really pregnant and it turns out to be a girl, but it has Jay’s facial features? Camel faced baby Brooklyn?
*Thoughts of Jar Jar Binks running through my head right now*
if that kid has jay’s facial features, it will be a sad day for humanity.
welcome and sh*t btw
I forgot nas was even in oochie wally cause they just stuck him in the radio edit. The verse that kept saying FACE was hilarious, by horse or whatever his name was.
Nastradamus was terrible!
it wasn’t terrible! there were like 2.5 good songs on that album. 2.5 good songs makes an album just very bad, but not terrible.
Hmmm if Beyonce were to be expecting a Lil Brooklyn or Jehovah Carter…
1. We wouldn’t know til the kid starts preschool.
2. It would make national news, not entertainment news, but NEWS news. Barbara Walters would have a 20/20 special the first with the couple…it will be 4 hrs and will air over two days.
3. Paparazzi would go crazy….the first photo of a pregnant Bey (I hate preggers…eww ugly word) would fetch like 500 million dollars and the first baby pic would cost enough to right this whole recession.
4. The poor kid would only be seen out in public with a mask or a blanket (a la prince, paris and blanket) to prevent #3
5. Jayonce would release a callabo (maybe a whole album) dedicated to each other, the baby, the whole family. Yuck
6. Beyonce haters worldwide would rejoice!!! And then they’d realize there really no one to take her place.
7. Jay may actually retire…like for real
8. Beyonce haters will enjoy calling her fat for the last two trimesters but Bey will have the last laugh about 3-4 months later when she looks like pre-baby Bey
9. Because of #8 all men will expect women to go back to pre baby size in 3 months using bey as a reference even though they ain’t no Jay.
10. Baby date pools will start everywhere. I got $10 on the 4th of any month.
On all I know, I had a dream last night about this chick telling me she was indeed pregnant at Dallas Cowboys stadium.
This chick is so popular she’s infiltrated my dreams
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i’m not entirely sure what to do with this comment. i feel like giving you a hug though.
im more sad the dream took place at the stadium of the 1-4 dallas cowboys. ha!
LOL, ok now I know this gonna sound crazy as hell, my I been kinda timing myself against Beyonce because we’re the same age. Like, as long as Beyonce isn’t pregnant I ain’t gotta worry about getting pregnant. But if she is… damn, I’ma have to scroll down my call log and figure out who I want my baby daddy to be.
this brings up an interesting point…there are A LOT of women who look to beyonce as some sort of measuring stick. how did this happen? i know folks love her to death but folks treat her like a family member. lol.
i’m curious about the beyonce effect on pop culture and the lives of women aged 25-35.
” i’m curious about the beyonce effect on pop culture and the lives of women aged 25-35.”
* cue Single ladies track*
LOL
i know ur not serious, but I can’t help but think there are women who really agree with your statement.
I know a FEMALE (damn, I wish I could make that word do the ‘gangsta lean’ with the Italics feature) who actually uses the young Mrs. Carter as a measuring stick.
I had to tell this FEMALE ::sighing:: that her wages from her gub’ment job is considered to be pennies, according to Busy-Bee’s yearly income.
I don’t know maybe their kid could give Kidz Bop a fighting chance. *shrug*
If Beyonce & Jay-Z spawned for some reason rents won’t be so damn high anymore!
If Beyonce & Jay-Z spawned for some reason rents won’t be so damn high anymore!
LAUGHS OUT LOUD.
For the past couple of days, I wondering why every one was saying “the rent’s so d amn high”. I thought it was one of those inside jokes, but I finally seen a YouTube clip of the debate.
At first, I thought it was a clip from an episode of “The Daily Show”.
I am so lame.
i want to disagree with you but i can’t. hell we linked it here a few days ago. lol.
If Beyonce was pregnant…
- Popeye’s Chicken and Krispy Kreme stock will rise.
- Mama Tina will be a baby clothes sewing maniac
- Let’s not forget Daddy Knowles. He’ll have his new son by the outside chick and Bey and Jay’s kid having playdates.
- Lil’ Brooklyn Carter will have a new album on Roc Nation two months after being born called, “Crying” with collabos with Willow Smith and Gwenyth Paltro’s kids..
Maybe Jay will *finally* retire. I can see him as a stay-at-home-dad. Rocawear nappies and burp cloths anyone?
Sir I am done. Thank you. Fugging hilarious.
Oh hey wait. So if Jayonce actually had a kid would Camels make like a candy cigarette for kids? I mean hopefully if it’s a girl it’ll look like Bey cause a girl looking like Hov is just God’s punishment..
…
Ok I’m done.
Sorry Hovito.
Even Jay’s sisters look like him, but their facial features are softer.
@Mimi
How unfortunate
I’ve NEVER seen his sisters… You gotta link?
I was watching an episode of VH1′s “Behind The Music” that was about Jay, when they shown his sisters.
Any woman who has a child with jay z deserves an award of some sorts!
Uh…there will be a reward: a few hundred mil…lest B ever run through her own cash (highly unlikely like).
Jay-Z is another example of why money and power can make any woman overlook a man’s biological facial flaws…
Now, if Shawn Carter was just an ordinary man, who work in a mailroom, on the other hand…
LOL, Everybody is going IN on Jay-Z. The brotha ain’t gorgeous but he aint that damn ugly, like I aint spitting up when I look at him, he looks like an average guy!
He’s average-looking, but I’m pretty damn positive that that ninja wouldn’t be able to be arrogant, if he had a 9-to-5.
I dunno about that, I’ve seen WORSE looking guys who have more attitude and arrogance than Jay, and they barely hold a job.
Yeah he would because he’s from Brooklyn. That’s how Brooklyn cats are. Jigga is the epitome of the Brooklyn cat. I’m a Queens chick who’s married to one. He ain’t rich, but that cocky, “I’m gonna rule this world one day, just watch me do it” swag is wired into his DNA too.
D amn, you are the fourth Queens native that I know, whose dating/mating/married to a Brooklyn native.
And I am more attracted to Brooklyn men than a man from Queens.
Queens men cannot receive any love…
d amn…
“I luh dem boys up top from da BK…” — Mrs. Carter
I think it’s great that Beyonce is finally realizing she is a woman and not a machine. Kudos to them for making babies. It really is our purpose anyway. If you can’t have kids, that’s one thing but I always gave a side eye to stars or people choosing not to have kids for vanity reasons like gaining weight. Like really? So babies make you fat and that’s yuckee huh? You lose points. lol Making money and looking good is great but remember we are WOMEN. This just goes to show that if you plan on marrying a man…even if it’s a millionaire…be prepared to have some babies, gain weight and be in the kitchen. It’s called being a woman and THAT’s sexy.
Anywho, I love Beyonce but does anyone notice how there isn’t one photo of her with a genuine expression on her face. It’s always some plastic pose.
“…Anywho, I love Beyonce but does anyone notice how there isn’t one photo of her with a genuine expression on her face. It’s always some plastic pose.”
Yes, I have noticed, which why I always like the paparazzi photos of Bey (the ones that usually takes place during her vacations with Jay). Otherwise than those photos, I seriously think that she is an actual Stepford Wife.
I’m sorry…sorry…it sounds like I am a hater, whose drinking haterade while sitting in my hating-a$$ hammock that I like to call “High Chair Hating”.
That’s not hating…she looks like a stepford wife. I feel sorry for the girl. She must have no idea who she is. Hopefully the baby will humanize her. lol
You know I had to put up the ‘hater’ disclaimer, because I know the Beyonce-stans will come out in swarms, to defend their God…I mean, their idol.
Talking ill about her is like being in the movie “The Bad Seed”.
I’m a huge old DC and Beyonce fan, but ya’ll right, she doesn’t really say much. It would be nice to see her convey some emotion or speak like she wasn’t scripted.
I am so with you on that one. The paparazzi pics are always so much better. When she’s at the Knicks game, walking on the beach or down the street with Jay, those really are the best pics. She looks natural and happy – well as natural and happy as you can look with huge Texas hair and a Dereon onesie short set. In all of the other pics, she looks like she’s working. It’s her job to be beautiful and photogenic and sh*t and she’s good at it. But I dig the pics when she’s not working.
I really think its her way of keeping her work life separate from her personal life. She gives us this character of beyonce to Stan after (granted the character could have more character) and she herself outside of that. Same reason she’s so private and I don’t fault her for that. You can tell by the paparazzi shots that she foes smile, laugh, play, etc while not under the public eye (well supposedly).
“High Chair Hating” will be baby’s Brooklyn Carter’s FIRST single!!! BOOM Base in YOUR face… lol
LMAO!! I’d actually buy that…
#DEAD! lol
I can hear the lyrics now
Hating on my high chair/hating on my high chair
You just mad because you as fake as my mommy’s hair
You see the LV logo on the side/stunna shades on with the seat so wide
Even my diaper is designer made/so you know this high chair means I’m strictly getting paid
Don’t even need to play cute for the record to get sold/when I’m getting Cambodian breast milk by the caseload
I’m sorry….I had to do it.
LMAO!!!
iHatechu Rewind!!!! LMAO!!!!
I told you, I couldn’t help myself!
yeah…you’re right. there is something sexxy about being an actual woman. lol. what i have found interesting is the number of women i meet who ask me if i want children (even if they know i dont have one). i’m like…of course…aint that assumed?
i used to think that all women wanted rugrats. i’ve increasingly come across more women with no maternal desire whatsoever. i’m not sure what to do with those women. no judgement. i just dont…get it.
“…more women with no maternal desire whatsoever. i’m not sure what to do with those women…”
I am one of those women.
I cannot speak for every childless (and happy) women, but I will say that I can imagine for myself that I can be a million different things and being a mother isn’t one of them.
It’s not like I hate children or abhor their existence. In fact, I am a proud godmother to four kids and I am an aunt to two children. I just don’t see myself being one.
Hell, I don’t even see myself becoming a man’s wife.
I can feel it (I think there must be some real biological reaction) when I hear a little baby cry my ovaries do a little jig. Like my body is ready but my mind ain’t ready.
I used to have that reaction, but then I realize that I was feeling that way ONLY about babies. Then, once realizing that little bit of knowledge, the ‘ovary quakes of need’ had stopped.
I will admit though, I am curious about being pregnant though.
now is the wife part more bc you don’t want it or bc you just don’t see it happening? i aint trying to get all deep on a friday, but i’m curious about this. and with the kids, like you dont want a kid or you just dont see it happening?
::trying not to become a Debbie Deepness today::
“…now is the wife part more bc you don’t want it or bc you just don’t see it happening?”
It’s more like, I don’t see myself becoming a wife, no time soon. I won’t say EVER, because I am not a psychic.
“…and with the kids, like you dont want a kid or you just dont see it happening?”
This is the one thing that I am certain of: I don’t WANT any children. Usually, I don’t admit this declaration to most people (because they tend to not accept my opinions).
okay, i was just curious. does that come up with men? and how do they respond to it, if it does? seems like most men want to “continue their legacy” LOL.
Well, the only time I bring the subject up with dudes, they are “cool” with my decision of being child-less.
@Mimi
Aww that makes me sad that you don’t see yourself being someone’s wife. Is it the relating to men issue or committment? Do you not get along with men or do men not pursue you? I ask because when I hear women rejecting the idea of marriage, it’s usually because of some sort of hurt. Or maybe you’re just comfortable in your independence (which is okay depending on your age). We can get deep. We’re all about fighting crime and helping one another on VSB.
-Is it the relating to men issue or committment?
No, it’s more like I am trying to get “all of my ducks in a row” right now, so men are on the back-burner right now.
-Do you not get along with men or do men not pursue you?
I do get along with members of the Swanging D’s Club, but like I mentioned before, I am not persuing right now.
Oh I get it. I truly believe in getting yourself together before pursuing a man. That’s essential. Cosign.
Right now, I am living like a stereotypical ‘stoner-2520 white boy’: living with my mom, working a cool job that offers lousy pay wages and occasionally smoking weed.
Thanks, recession!
And my mother is actually talking about wanting some grandbabies from me…
@Mimi, SmarFoxGirl, and Panama
At this moment, I’m not gung ho about having kids…nor am I saying I don’t want any. I’ve accepted the fact that it may not happen. I would prefer to be married and to have a child in my early 30′s. While anything is possible (I’m 28)…I’m not holding my breath. If I get to a point finanically and I feel emotionally and mentally ready, then it would be a choice for me to be a single parent. I don’t want to be that 40 year old woman going through IVF and popping all types of drugs to have a kid. While I understand it’s nothing like your “own” and the whole experience…there’s plenty of kids out here who need love, so there’s other options.
But for me…right now…eh…
see that’s a convo i’ve had with many of my chick friends…a lot of them are moving towards this, “i just dont know if its going to happen” mentality. which is sad. its hard out here for women. for all the stuff we do write about the fact that there’s plenty of men out here, it does seem like a lot of women really are preparing for single motherdom…and in that sense more or less creating it themselves or just not doing the kid thing at all.
that has to be a tough inner convo to have.
@ panama..
that has probably been one the most in-tuned statements i’ve seen you write in my short time of being a vsb reader.
it’s funny that the thread took a turn on this topic, because i was just having this same convo with my sis. she’s 40 (and fabulous) and is done (my neph is 21) with kids. marriage she doesn’t see in her future. so when i told her, that im slowly coming to grips that it might not be in mine either, she proceeded to tell me that im too young (31) to think that way! lol.
but the reality is.. i dont know if i meant to become someones wife and mother. esp since i could’ve been by now had i made different decisions. but the possibility that it’s not my the blueprint (1,2 or 3) of my life IS a hard inner convo to have.
@Panama Jackson
Yeah, I mean its not something I necessarily want…but I’m not gonna harp on it or desire children and a husband to the point were I start making poor choices just to acquire those things.
@LaBakir
Oh girl there’s nothing wrong with that! First you are 28 which is young and I totally cosign not wanting to have babies alone. I’m not married and I spent my pregnancy and the first month of my daughter’s life, single. It was the worst year of my life, PERIOD. I never cried more than I did that year. I was shunned by everyone, including her father for not aborting her. Then all of a sudden, he needed space to “think”. I had to mentally prepare myself to raise her alone and I was scared. I totally see why you feel that way. It’s not over for you though. And you fine and sh*t. Hush chile. lol And I heart you extra for mentioning adoption being an option.
@Keisha my love,
Of course you are meant to be someone’s wife. You just haven’t met the right man. I know this because I’m psychic and sh*t. It is in your blue print as you have alot going for you. We talk like every day so you are real and if you were nutty (like for real nutty), I would see it through your comments. lol So I know you have a cool personality. Stay looking girl you will find someone.
@SmartFoxGirl
Perhaps I’m counting myself out the “game” a little early, but as one of the other VSS’s said…I don’t even have any prospects
. See I don’t know if I’m as strong as you and all the mothers out there who do it solo. And boooo to him needing space to “think”…smh. I don’t know if I could make it through something like that…kudos to you *round of applause*
@LaBakir
Thanks girl. You don’t know the half. I would share all that I went through during my pregnancy but I don’t want to kill my good mood. It was hell to say the least. Try not to do it alone if you can. You’ll get prospects.
We’re all about fighting crime and helping one another on VSB.
we really are. i think shoplifting is down across the board.
@Panama
Ditto. I don’t get it myself. It’s a growing trend and I get different answers from diff women. Some say they aren’t ready (but they’re 36? girl you ready!), some say they don’t want to gain weight (FAIL!), etc. I also see some women who I can tell are fearful of going through labor and being a mother. This could be for a number of reasons, one may be immaturity or maybe they had a bad childhood or a bad mother. Also, some women just don’t like kids. (They fail in my book too but I never say it to their face.) I know having children isn’t for everyone but ask any 50+ year old woman with no kids…there is some level of regret whether they admit it or not. Having a descendant is the best thing for your heart and your life as you have someone there for you when you get old. I can’t imagine dying alone with no husband or child.
i think for me its hard to comprehend b/c i come from such a big family. i have beaucoup siblings and beaucoup nieces and nephews. i just grew up in families where ninjas had kids…i only have one now but i want more.
i guess i just assumed that all women wanted to be mothers like i assumed all people wanted to be famous. i was wrong on both accounts.
I have a large island family too. With island folks, if you reach 30 and you have no man or kids, you get the “what’s wrong with you” speech from the elders. I’m on the isht list because my past relationship didn’t work out. Now I get pressure everyday from my family. (and we are a career/education first type of unit) but getting married and having kids is numero uno in my culture.
well me and my family, we’s just southern ninjas. (and half breed ninjas). my dad and my two mothers come from huge families. our family reunion is they kind where we have to rent out a rec center or compound. not just do a pavillion at a park.
i love being a part of a big family. i love having siblings. and i love that my kid has beaucoup cousins. i just like family.
Awwwww. I’m getting all warm reading your comment, how sweet. lol
**adds Island Women to short list of places with potential mates**
Bond. BlkBond.
We’re crazy though. You’ve been warned. But we got good heart and will take care of you well.
@sfg:
co-sign on the island girl thing. like my mom was 1 of 13. my father was 1 of 6.
you are supposed to reproduce. period. full stop.
and while my mom is not on me to give her more grandbabies (my sisters have taken care of that)..the rest of the fam want more babies in the family. lol.
ps: i’m gonna dm you with my # and skype info!
Its so weird that I’m reading this because I had made a FB status about how I’m single with no children and I’m counting my blessings. The first comment I get was “God will bless you with a man and a child soon enough!” And even family members are hitting me up asking me why I’m taking so long. I’m 28 yrs old and my twin just had a baby…I’m MORE than content with being an aunt for at least another 2 yrs.
There is so much pressure to procreate and its like did you even think how I would be affected?!? Or even if Im trying to go with a semi-loose plan like education, career, hubby THEN baby? I’m trying to actually have my children the RIGHT way. Not to knock single mothers because I think you ladies are the strongest of the strong but I know that most of you, given a second chance, wouldn’t choose to be a single mother, so I’m taking my time until I find the one so I won’t have to be.
“God will bless you with a man and a child soon enough!”
Smh @ that nonsense. Someone actually said that to you. I always think of that scene in 27 dresses where a family member went up to the older sister and told her how she must be upset because her younger sister is getting married before her. I love her comment about being able to have meaningless s.ex with who she wants.
@JessicaL (there’s no reply button under your comment and i dont know why *shrugs*)
Thats how I felt reading it. I had to go back and tell her that it made my list of blessings because I’m happy and alright being single and without child. I have so much more that I want to do that I know a child and husband will hinder in some way. and yes having meaningless s.ex in a european or italian country is at the top of that list.
@Keisha
I completely forgot to give you my contact info. I have to log on after work later.
@Phidelity and JessicaL
Are you ladies single? Because if you are not married than you shouldn’t be expected to have children, right?
Yeah I’m single and everyone around me is telling me to take my time. That’s why it baffles me when people openly tell someone they need to get married and have kids. Then again I just turned 24 last month so I’m guessing no one’s in a rush to start feeling old. It would be like awwww Jessie got married and had a baby I remember when she was a little girl *sobs*.
It aint just island people, it’s country folks too! “When u getting married”, “When Ima have some great-grand-babies” Hell, I don’t know. But I do want my grandparents to see me have a baby while they’re all living. That’s the only disappointing thing for me.
Yea but with West Indian people, it’s a total different kind of beast, because most of the older heads come from huge families, then come to this country and start spouting seeds all over the damn place.
I can’t do it. Both my pops and my moms come from huge families (my moms side was just her and my uncle, but her side of the family is huge regardless, so many family members I haven’t even met yet). But I don’t want kids, and my sister is traveling the world, aint no way in hell we’re crossing that line until well beyond 35+. Even then, my consideration of a vesctomy is looming closer and closer as I see everyone I grew up breeding kids like some kind of virus that won’t die.
@Wip yep country folk got it bad too
@Rewind I’m laughing my @ss off at your whole comment. Good stuff. No vasectomy though. lol
@ SmartGirlFox
I dunno darling. Kids scare the holy hell out of me. I think it’s because my ex faked a pregnancy on me, and the fact that my entire life has been about sacrificing for others…I finally got some control with it so I’m not about to give it up for a kid. Perhaps I’ll change my mind with time but until then…this is a joyrides……..weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
No its not assumed…. There are several reasons women do not want kids. I myself am not sure if I don’t want them or if I just don’t see it happening. I just don’t see giving it much thought if it’s not an option…and it’s not right now. But even if it was I’m still not sure.
I like kids…well I like the IDEA of kids, the reality of kids is another thing. Imma gonna do lists for ease (on my phone)
Why I dont see it happening:
- I’m 30 w/no prospects (I could but don’t wanna have kids after 35)
- I’m not having a kid out of wedlock **no shots fired (to cut off any comments I’m celibate you can prevent it from happening)
- I would want to be a stay at home mom (no ones signing up for that)
Why I would want kids:
- i had a good childhood want to pass that on would like to have family times and memories.
- I look exactly like mom and I’d like a mini me
- as SFG said older women with no kids seem to regret it or have some sort of sense of incompleteness
- i want some one to take care of me (it’s just me and my sis-maybe a few cousins) w/o kids old age would be lonely.
Reasons that I don’t want kids*:
-they’re hard work
- this world is crazy (couldn’t imagine raising a child so warped)
-even having a baby in wedlock doesn’t mean you won’t end up being a single mom
- I like sleeping in (especially Saturdays)
- they’re expensive!!!
- I could use the childcare money to buy a condo downtown
- you just have to give so much of yourself
- I already don’t have enough hrs in the day and you want me to add midnight feedings, dropping off and picking up kids, homework, bake sales, soccer games, cheerleading practice, fixing nutritious meals daily… I’m tired just thinking about it.
*I know this lists sounds selfish…IT IS
“…*I know this lists sounds selfish…IT IS”
So am I and I am a proud loner too.
At least, you are aware, chica.
Not a lot of people will not admit that to themselves.
I admit it everyday! I am a twin and also two little sisters so I’ve shared everything ALL of my life. I’m just now getting used to doing things for myself and not having to give half, move over and spend time with anyone but ME, so call me selfish and paint it on my back i”ll wear the label proudly.
@OftenConfused
Those are great reasons. Well said. I never thought about it that way. I reread my post and it looked like I was implying that women who didn’t have children had something wrong with them. I was referring more to women who were married. I know their is a definite fear associated with raising kids and it is WORK, I’m not going to lie so if someone has reservation, they should wait. You and other ladies opened my eyes up to the fact that many of us don’t have mates or options and I completely agree. We shouldn’t have kids outside of marriage. It happens but it’s not ideal.
*there
COSIGN ON EVERYTHING…
Oh come on, don’t do Nas…. He’s good people.!!! L0L
He is…but he’s still Nas. At some point, I might try to write the book about how Nas is the most revolutionary, counterrevolutionary figure we’ve seen in history.
I am glad to hear someone else publicly hate on “Oochie Wally”.
The first time I heard the song, I thought ‘what the fudgery!’ (i was sitting in a car with my grandma and my mother, when it played on the radio…when I am in their presence, I do not cuss even in my thoughts).
Then, I seen that ghetto-Lawrence In The Arabia-hot mess of a music video for the song. Those n*ggas were acting like they never touched a woman before…smdh
I went shopping with my mom and grandma when that song came on I cringed. It just felt wrong listening to it with my mom and grandma not to mention it sucked.
Of course, the hoodrats LOVED that song.
(…when I am in their presence, I do not cuss even in my thoughts)
lmbaaaaooooooo
and chokin on my lunch……
Baby Bjorns = new murses…
Weak.
like SWV weak? Or Steve Urkel weak?
i need more context. lol
Acutally both.
Nothing’s sexier than a man in a Baby Bjorn. But then again…I can also see that being hilarious. Context
But, I would actually pay money to see a paparazzi photos of Jay walking down a NYC street wearing a baby bjorn…
The ninja can’t pretend that he is repping for the hoods anymore, ever since there are photos of Jay on a yacht, wearing a pair of boat shoes.
1. Jay’s subjects would become even more asinine. He was never mos, but you had to reflect the flow and the hustle. But the longer he was with her, the less relatable his music became. You can flow, but I really don’t care about your house going into escrow or your condo association’s post 1 a.m. noise policy. And how dare you desecrate pac’s “Bonnie and Clyde”. Seriously? Did you even listen to that song? Did you know what it was about? First you taking shots at her on some “get yo independent ___ out of here, question?” And then that? Rest in peace Apollo Creed.
2. Sean’s wife would immediately become the third smartest person in the Carter household.
3. Sean’s wife’s hips would balloon to the point where her insurance would fully cover the purchase of a rascal scooter. We all saw teenage Sean’s Wife, girls with hips like that don’t usually lose weight in their 20s. Genetically she’s a ticking trans-fat time bomb.
4. My self esteem would drop because I would feel bad for wishing a little innocent black baby ill. Hopefully she gets her mom’s looks and her dad’s smarts. The other way around could be some kind of fun size 50 Tyson type situation.
5. Lil Bey-Z might be the first black power couple offspring with enough wattage to pull off a Paris Hilton/Kim Kardashian. Progress is some ironical shite.
re your first point…and on a totally unrelated related note, how in the F*CK did BET leave Jay off of their best 10 MC’s of the 21st century list.
had i even known this existed i would written a post about how f*cking retarded BET is for that list.
drake? jadakiss?
look…i can understand the inclusion of rick ross and jeezy and nearly everybody on the list. but the inclusion of drake and jada lets me know that their selection criteria is real fugazi. i like jada but his output aint exactly been of the highest caliber. and drake has one solid album and one mixtape. and he’s ALREADY on the list? LOL.
maaaaaaaaaan…i cant WAIT to end up on these kinds of panels and discussions just so i can be that dude at the table talking about how full of sh*t people are.
Jay was left off the list b/c your debut album had to drop after 1999
I can NOT understand the inclusion of Rick Ross and Jeezy…I’m still in shock in how Fab was left off the list. Furthermore, from that stupid @ss criteria they had goings ons…Soulja Boy should’ve been up there.
The top 5 were accurate IMO and can be argued about which # the received…but they all deserve to be there.
Rick Ross made the list but F-A-B-Ohhh! was left off?? When did Rick Ross become a great rapper? Did I miss that?
1. Eminem
2. Weezy
3. Yeezy
4. Fiddy
5. T.I.P.
6. Luda
7. Drizzy
8. Jeezy
9. Jadakiss
10. Ricky
Like I said over at threewaystotakeit.com, this entire list was a**.
Rick Ross is also a**. He was built in a lab at Def Jam. He’s made of spare parts of other rappers that didn’t make it.The only thing I find remotely amusing about Rick Ross is when that chick says “Maybach Music” in that English accent.
@Wu
LMAO!! Dead!
i can understand the inclusion of Rick Ross only b/c since he hit the scene he’s been en fuego. hell his only knock is his authenticity but how many rappers have that problem?
i dont see how jada makes this list at all. like at all. i dont care if his first solo joint was in 2001. dude was around during Biggie days. prominently. thats why these criteria are fugazi as all hell.
i’m not sure why, but for some reason, i dont think Fab belongs on the list either. i’m trying to pinpoint a reason why…but i cant. i just dont think he does. his body of work is hella…spotty to me. aside from “breathe” and all of his feature work, his own personal catalog more or less sucks.
@Panama
rick ross…fire???!!! Really? Not IMO…Besides “Hustlin”…I feel like son just became hot w/ this last album and the help of Puff.
I feel like Jada is under rated…and I c/s Fab personal catalog being questionable. Dude goes harder on his features that on his own work…but he brings the heat.
The criteria is what throws it off. Is this a popularity contest or lyrical? I honestly don’t think it can rock both ways.
“Rappers were critiqued on their flow, lyrical ability, subject matter, cultural impact of their music, their cash, and something called “digital skills” representing how large their internet following is” o_O
Tell me Soulja Boy shouldn’t be in the Top 5
i stand by Rick Ross. dude’s become a better rapper and his albums are pretty doggone good. plus, you cannot go anywhere without hearing a rick ross song. i mean dude has done his due dilligence to not just be the dude who created the song “hustlin’”. if jeezy makes it then ross has to make it since they’re the same rapper except ross has become the much better artist.
jada might be underrated as a lyricist (though ive never been a fan), but based on those criteria listed, he fails on like 3 of the 5 categories.
and you’re right aobut soulja boy. while his lyrical ability and subject matter might be bottom tier, he is numbers 1,2,3,4, and 5 on the last 3. well not cash…50 murders everybody on that scale. but you get my drift. he should def be ON the list. especially if Drake is.
As a karate expert, f*ckery enthusiast, and a bit of a hip-hop purist (I listen to Golden Age hip-hop like it just came out) I am of the opinion that if you are going to name the top 10 MCs of the 21st Century, then categories 3 and 4 should not even be on the table. Your cash and your digital skills have NOTHING to do with being a dope MC. Most of the cats out right now are NOT MCs but people got them thinkin they are. These nuckas are RAPPERS. They RAPPERS y’all!!! Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but hell, call them what they are. Soulja Boy is the Head Rapper in Charge right now. I don’t like him at all, but the boy is making his money and bought his mama a house and all that good stuff. I’ll let him live on the strength of that. In the words of the other Black National Anthem, “I believe the children are the future. Teach them well and let them lead the way.” We posed to teach them WELL! Please do NOT mislead the children by telling them that Soulja Boy and Wacka Flocka and the rest of the new RAPPERS are MCs. Being an MC is ALL about your skills on the mic. If you ain’t got none, you ain’t no MC. PERIOD! Soulja Boy got more popularity and probably money than Mos, Talib, and Pharoah Monche combined, but he couldn’t rhyme better than any one of them if they wrote the lyrics for him and gave him a blunt of Ghost Weed (mad shouts to De La Soul.)
Climbs down from soap box.
Fab’s wordplay is STUPID, Rick Ross is basic. Fab coulda at least made #8. I love that Jeezy the Snowman, but he done fell off, I really don’t know if his a$$ shoulda been on there either…
@WIP
Ya feel me!!! I just did a post on this Joe Budden track “Remember The Titans” off his upcoming mixtape….Fab KILLED that ish (Bank and Royce da 5’9″ are ft. too…everyone went hard except Banks)
I agree w/ Jeezy as well…while I’ve never really been a fan, his older work was hot.
while Fab is a good lyricist…thats all he has going for him. hell, if somebody asked you to name the doppest rappers out you wouldnt put Fab on that list. and rick ross is not a bad rapper.
hell, i’ve been holding something in the stash for a minute that would piss off 98 percent of hiphop fans…and the title is: Rick Ross Is A Better Rapper Than Nas
lol.
@Panama
See, I disagree with that. I know A LOT of people who feel Fab is one of the best doing it right now. LMAO @ Jeezy and Ross being the same person…iCan’t. Jada definitely is still having trouble becoming mainstream..le sigh.
I. Hate. You. For that Nas comment. You’re on ignore for 30 seconds.
@Panama
“hell, i’ve been holding something in the stash for a minute that would piss off 98 percent of hiphop fans…and the title is: Rick Ross Is A Better Rapper Than Nas”
Umm…err…ahhh….No. Rick Ross is aight…but by no means great! His production is great. When I hear him over a beat that is not “typical” for him….and he murders it….then I would be impressed.
@CNotes – yeah i wouldnt call Ross great at all. but dude stays winning. and that’s for a reason. he’s an adequate enough rapper on great production. i can still recite the lyrics to “hustlin” years later. were they simple? yep. effective, hell yes. i cant recite a fab verse to save my life…nor do i even want to. Fab songs dont come on anywhere that i go. lol. you know who does though? officer ricky.
@LaLaBakir – i’d like to meet one of these people who feel like Fab is one of the best doing it right now. while i admit he can be a good rapper when he wants, he’s pretty much Cam’ron light. lots of potential that never will be as good as it should be.
@Panama
Annnnnd you’re back in time out again for the Cam’ron reference…LMAO
D@mn what happened to dude?!! “Confessions of Fire” is my sh!t
@CNotes…Cute pic!! Hmmm…I gotta chew on that Fab comment a little bit. I totally understand what you’re saying about him being stuck in a box…however I feel that he too (like Jada) has trouble really breaking into mainstream
@LaLaBakir
Thanks girl!
“I gotta chew on that Fab comment a little bit”
Yeah, I’m a huge Fab stan, but he’s missing the “it” factor to capture mainstream appeal. Lyrical fiends will feel him because we are willing to pay attention and give him the opportunity to wow us. Mainstream listeners …not so much.
@CNotes
*nods in agreement in regards to last Fab comment*
Yeah, if you don’t listen to lyrics..then Fab definitely won’t do it for you
it’s simple. panama hates fab, nas, and jada because panama just hates words. and people who say “son”
yeah, like Champ said. of course i hate words. i’m mad that i even have to type this sh*t out right now. or that the words even exist to be able to be typed out. f*ck guttenberg for making words so…UBIQUITOUS through books. damn Germans always f*cking up the game.
I cant believe what I’m reading. Rick Ross great?
Kneeeegro pleeasse.
Let’s not confuse popularity with greatness. He’s in heavy rotation but thats not a reflection of his skill, lyrical prowess or ability.
His music is listenable. As Wife-e CNotes said, his production is on point, but lets not get carried away now.
I’d place Jada over Officer Ricky any day.
And Fabolous just could never catch on in my opinion. His music was really an unanimously failed attempt at commercial success, apart from a few singles. His flow is lame to me. I cant fcuk with the slow boderline yellow schoolbus dainty delivery either
i never said rick ross was great. i dont think he is at all. dude is good enough on great tracks. and jada is a better lyricist than rick ross but i’d be more people give a sh*t about officer ricky than jada 10 days a week.
@SoBo
(winks at my Hub-e)
@Panama
but for some reason, i dont think Fab belongs on the list either. i’m trying to pinpoint a reason why…but i cant.
I agree with you, but for different reasons. To me, while Fab is a great lyricist, he has never really come out of the box he’s in. In my mind, he has never grown past his DJ Clue era.
I’m with you on Fab and the box thing. My biggest thing with him is that he always tried a little to hard to be commercial. I liked him because he could flow but every other song he was trying to make 50 cent/Fat Joe/Ja-rule-esque song that had gender cross over appeal. Actually, that ruined a lot of good rappers careers, but I remember strictly being on a strict holla back club banga – pookie bear love song release rotation.
I think you right, but I dont feel like he was trying to be commercial either (no reply button for Medium Meech). I think Fab just stays WORKING, dude just trying to keep his name out there and stay making money, but his style really ain’t changed too much and I like that because his lyrics have stayed on point.
Two words
His. Flow.
Fab be sayin some ish, but CNotes said a mouthful when she said, “Lyrical fiends will feel him because we are willing to pay attention and give him the opportunity to wow us. Mainstream listeners …not so much.” His lack of flow makes him hard to listen to sometimes. I love his verse on Deuces, but with everything he’s saying, it seems like you should hear some passion. His monotone delivery is what keeps him at the cusp of great.
TRUTH!
@CNotes – i just want to point out that you agreed with me for different reasons…when i didnt give any reason. i couldn’t come up with one.
i love black people. lol.
but Fab is a dope lyricist, but i’m with Meech on this one, he tries to hard to be a crossover star and ends up making the absolute gayest songs he can make. that “baby” sh*t with Tamia was ALMOST as gay as the Bone Thugs N Harmony song “home” or that new Nelly song he has out now, which might be the absolute most credibility (even for nelly) murdering song in history. i think its called “just a dream”. it sounds like a Disney song that Selena Gomez should be singing with the Jonas Brothers.
@NY2VA
“but with everything he’s saying, it seems like you should hear some passion. His monotone delivery is what keeps him at the cusp of great.”
BINGO!
@Panama,
As a girl who was OBSESSED with Nelly in her pre-teen years, I’m talkin, knew his favorite foods, birthdays of his family members etc., I have to agree with this new song. It’s unacceptable. I heard it and I felt betrayed, like who is Nelly at this point? He’s singing. A bad, sappy woe is me song. I’ll never be able to look him in the eye again.
@Panama
Come up with Deez!
So…I am mad late on this debate, but can I tell everyone that i listen to Ross for the folks featured on his tracks? Like Ross should just do hooks or short verses at the begining of songs and let the features do the rest. lol
I skip Ross’s part on Aston Martin Music just to hear Drake and Chrisette Michele.
Also Nas is the mothereffin’ truth.
His album with Damian Marley, Distant Relatives has me in a trance…no hands…
then Em is disqualified. The Slim Shady LP dropped in 98.
I looked it up and it said it was released in 1999
okay…i see where it says feb 23, 1999. i’m not sure why i feel like it dropped in 1998.
If it dropped in ’99, there were probably quite a few singles from the album getting radio play in ’98. So your not crazy
I feel you with Ross and Jeezy. I go by the rewind test. I have never heard a Ross or a Jeezy verse that made me go back because I had to hear it again or because I couldn’t believe what I just heard. Great production, yeah. Rhymes that stand out, Na. If i consistently like Dewayne Carter’s reinterpretations of your songs better than the originals then you’re not top 10 anything.
*hugs Medium Meech*
“have never heard a Ross or a Jeezy verse that made me go back because I had to hear it again or because I couldn’t believe what I just heard.”
And Fab makes me do this. I listened to his verse alone 4 times on “Remember The Titans”
yeah, see, nothing about Fab makes me want to listen to anything he does over. i love Breathe, but htats cuz the song was dope all around. hell, i prefer Joe Buddens to Fab. could just be a personal preference or maybe its cuz Buddens is just a better rapper. lol. me no know.
As a karate expert I can’t get with Fab. Nobody fake kills verses more than that chipped tooth bastard. I also hate how he stops to explain every analogy he uses. Like, I know what the f_ck you mean. It probably wasn’t even that clever anyway and it takes the zing out of the original line.
*I’ll admit that I wanted to comment just to slander Fab
Oh, and he definitely had the weakest verse on “Remember The Titans”
#jordanshrug
I’ma hafta step in here in regards to Buddens. He peaked with Mood Muzik 2. Peaked and been in a slow descent since then.
He’s missing something but I can’t put my finger on it. The only member on House worse than him is Crooked I.
that’s a fair point…except dwayne carter’s reinterpretation of everybody’s song is usually better. lol. hell, he MURDERED all the singles off of jay’s bp3 album.
And to bring it full circle, what he did to Sean Carter’s wife’s “Upgrade you” was Hubey Brown sick.
Honestly I can’t argue with drake. I’m not a huge fan for a lot of reasons but these lists are usually about who’s hot right now. But that doesn’t explain Jada.
Back to Drake. Any RAPPER that can SING a song that was clearly written for a woman to sing and not have anybody so much as mention something being off has some street cred or real MC credits in the bank. Andre (best rapper out period, and that’s just off guest appearances) is the only other person I can think of that can get away with that. “im more than just an option . . . hey hey hey” “I better find your loving, I better find your heart, I bet if I give all my love aint nothing gonna tear us apart.” From a canadian jewish rapper. Wow.
Actually I just proved your point. No rapper that drops a song that someone else clearly wrote should be on any top MC list at all. That’s like an R&B artist lip syncing.
bazinga. lol
*hands panama official request to cover this in an actual post.
my twitter blew the hell up that night. i didnt watch (i didnt need to/wasnt home).
it was quite similar to an article a while back on espn.com about the best players in past decade or something.. and EVERYONE on the msg boards went off..how could you exclude MJ!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
no one READ the FIRST line about the criteria about the article.
it was hilarious.
#readingisfundamental.
but i still cosign on the asinineness of the BET list.
but..ppl watched and are talking about it though.
ps: Deion Sanders is WELLLLLLL VEX about being 34/100 best NFL players EVER. can’t wait to see who is #1 on THAT one!!!
Which is why I hate watching/reading from a magazine about the “greatest rappers of all time/generation/decade/etc.”
The last one I watched , which was on MTV (I believe Jay was in the top spot), I was livid.
How livid, you ask?
It’s almost like the rage that a Red Sox fan has while being trapped inside of Yankee’s Stadium and watching the Red Sox lose because of the umpire’s bad/misguided call.
i love those lists and hate them at the same time. i hate them b/c they’re usually so retarded its laughable. i remember when vh1 (i think) did the best 100 hiphop songs of all time and motherf*cking “T.R.O.Y” was like #90. on what planet does that even come close to making sense. all it does is make me want to make my own lists…all the time…and all the time, panama is good.
“…the best 100 hiphop songs of all time and motherf*cking “T.R.O.Y” was like #90…”
I watched the same VH1 special as well.
I was upset about that tune being placed at #90 also. Actually, I was angry, but that is only because that song holds a special place in my heart.
I also think P.E.’s “Fight The Power” shouldn’t have been place in the number one spot.
i agree with that. i just dont think any list that has TROY at 90 out of 100 is legit.
“ps: Deion Sanders is WELLLLLLL VEX about being 34/100 best NFL players EVER. can’t wait to see who is #1 on THAT one!!!”
after looking at the players ahead of him, he’s exactly where he should be. 34 might even be too high
@The Champ, @Keisha Brown
I can’t understand why he’s mad. He’s 34th out of thousands of NFL’s throughout history. Deon will be okay.
What number is Ronnie Lott?
This whole thread needs the expert opinion of JA Rule for some legitimacy….LOL
WHERE IS JA?? WHERE IS JA, BABY???
Lmmfao @ Kanye convincing Taylor to have a child. Never woulda thought to go from Jay & Beyonce’s kid, to Kanye’s ego, to him knockin up Taylor lol
I know it is more likely impossible…
But, I would like to see what this baby would look like…
Can you imagine what those publicity magazine photos would look like?
Beyonce and Jay-Z callabo on nursery rhymes
Jay-Z rappin’
“Mary.had.a little lamb my ninja
Go.To. Sleep.Now.My ninja.”
Then Beyonce randomly singin Mary and lamb throughout the verses
It’s simple.
There will be a 60 Minutes or 20/20 special about the hugest facial reconstruction procedure ever done on a child, because no one would ever believe a baby could come out the womb looking like Two-Face from Batman.
*dead*
That was my whole thought back when they first started dating. I was like if this kid comes out looking like Jay… we wouldn’t see this child till the plastic surgery healed. ESPECIALLY from getting that nose job.
I love Jay, he’s my favorite rapper. It’s not the fact that he’s ugly. It’s the fact that he’s SO UGLY, and she’s SO PRETTY. No baby can overpower polar opposites, that kid is soooooooooooooo screwed.
maybe the kid will just be extra smedium…like solange.
A pregnant Beyonce would force me to call cablevision and cut my service off cause she’s a bugaboo a bugaboooooo. Seriously she would be top news for no damn reason at all except Jay knocked her Mirena outta place and poked holes in his condom. And even if they don’t have pics or vid or audio of her she would STILL be on the news. So yeah there would be no phone, no tv, no innanet for me.
What she does after she gives birth would force me to move to Canada
No you did not! Omg that is too effin funny!
*canada will welcome all beyonce refugees.
oops..
but just know you could move to planet unobtanium and you would STILL read bouditboudit.
I’ve always wanted to see Niagra Falls from the other side. If another pregnancy rumor comes out, I’ma plan a trip to scope out a house.
I feel the same way. But I said the same thing about Bush being the second (first) time.
“A pregnant Beyonce would force me to call cablevision and cut my service off cause she’s a bugaboo a bugaboooooo.”
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
That is HILARIOUS!
Hello everyone *waves* I remember the Shiloh Jolie-Pitt frenzy (aka the 2520 second coming) I’m expecting Baby Bigga to eviscerate all.of. it. I want to computer altered sonograms, and countdowns, youtube tributes, and a tacky maternity line dammit and more press then one could imagine, that is if the public ever see the child before its first birthday:) and while I abhor and detest superficial comments about aesthetics on children especially babies but…. let us pray if it a girl (the boy can get away with looking a bit “different”) that her genes dominate no offense to Jay *btw is it true Jay has already spawned and the child is living in obscurity in Trinidad?
I thought about that too. Maybe Angelina can convice Beyonce and Jay to fund a small country for all the kids she plans to collect.
srry for the typos I meant to says sees* and if its a girl(I feel as if my grammar and spelling needs to be up to par at all times on this site)
no baby will ever be as famous as Brad and Angie’s baby unless Obama had a baby with Clinton’s daughter.
That’s the creepiest thing I ever heard.
There’s no logical way of having a baby with Chelsea Clinton just like there’s no logical way Maggie Gyllenhal doesn’t look exactly like her brother with more hair.
i thought i was the only one who thought that. about the gyllenhals and the uncanny resemblance. and im sorry but shiloh and the twins might bring in the money with the magazine covers/paparazzi and androgynous dressing but Zahara Jolie Pitt runs that household and no one can tell me different. (and i’m biased b/c she is my favorite)
That is one creepy chick. She’s so creepy, she almost ruined the Dark Knight for me. There should be no reason an ugly woman can ruin the greatest comic book movie of all time and yet….she almost did it. I almost got kicked out of the theater for yelling “The Big Nosed Demon is dead!” when she died in the movie.
Oooh see now you’re just playing favorites. I think all of the Pitt kids are going to be like an entire dynasty and take over Hollywood.
Omg! Dead! I didn’t think Maggie was ugly, she just looks so damn old!
It’s probably because she’s got the Benjamin Button effect going on, looking like Cruella Deville before she got her first period.
*gasp* That’s terrible lmao
“…I almost got kicked out of the theater for yelling “The Big Nosed Demon is dead!” when she died in the movie.”
::goes into cardiac arrest, clutches chest, falls out of rolling chair and lands on the floor…No one notices that I am dead, while walking around the store::
*shakes your body*
Mimi! Mimi!
*dramatic drop on the knees and yells to the sky*
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
You have my chest physically hurting with this, I laughed so hard. Stop it I say
“I almost got kicked out of the theater for yelling “The Big Nosed Demon is dead!” when she died in the movie.”
You about to get me kicked out this office for LMBAO
I’m sorry WIP! But now you know my pain when a room of 100+ catch whiplash to turn around and see what the hell your problem is
But, I did like Maggie “The Big Nosed Demon” Gyllenhal in the movie “Secretary”…
Goes to show what type of person that I am…
that movie…. the BEST
LOL Maggie is an incredible actress, I will give her that but I was thinking at times during the movie was every actress in Hollywood busy? Maggie as the love interest? Really??? I know shes the childhood sweetheart and what not but if all of the leading men are in love or involved with her… the casting choice was off to me. I’m not buying it. I even missed Katie Holmes and she cant act to me even though Tom prob had her locked in a closet somewhere. I agree the Pitt kids aka Rainbow Tribe 2.0 will be a force to reckoned with one day
She can act. I’m not going to front. But she does not have leading lady or love interest appeal to me. She’s like a regular woman to me, the kind that stays in the background lurking while her hot friends get action. I’m sure some people find her attractive and I believe they should be dropped in large tubs of acid but that’s besides the point.
I’m just saying…watch out..those Pitt kids will form Voltron one day and take over the whole damn world.
“LOL Maggie is an incredible actress, I will give her that but I was thinking at times during the movie was every actress in Hollywood busy? Maggie as the love interest? Really??? I know shes the childhood sweetheart and what not but if all of the leading men are in love or involved with her… the casting choice was off to me. I’m not buying it”
yeah, that almost ruined the movie for me too. they definitely should have had someone like natalie portman or even marion cotillard in that role.
Yeah, looking past her face to notice her acting is like is like noticing that car #14 of a horrific 47 car pileup on the belt way had an AKA vanity plate, it’s possible but still only a very minor part of a very unfortunate situation.
What’s with casting homely actresses as the love interests in comic book movies? Is it some form of irony? Reverse sexism? That chick they cast in spider man did not make me believe that astronauts heirs and superheroes would be fighting to save her.
she absolutely ruined the dark knight. it was completely improbable to believe her as a beautiful love interest…all i kept thinking was, she must give boooooomb head.
@Panama Jackson
Basically. I mean, her face game (pause) is seriously wack.
If I was Two Face, I would’ve been happy she was blown up. Can’t have 2 crazy looking people in a relationship.
With what, her mouth or her nose? Because both them joints are wide as hell.
LMBAO thinking of that Trina line…
I feel like I need a bath after reading that one. EWWWW!
If Beyonce is pregnant……Solange WINS!
Why? Because according to the code of siblings, one sibling has to be great at something that the other sibling is incapable of. Solange tried the pop star route and just couldn’t find her footing. Welp, she was never going to because Beyonce has that on lock (and Solange understood and gracefully bowed out). Solange seems to have found her inner Lisa Bonet and is rockin it…fashion-wise and on the wheels of steel. And what kid is cooler than Julez?! Beyonce will try really hard to be a “cool” mom, but will end up trying too hard (like she normally does). Sorry Bey, but Solange will remain the star of the mommy show!
CNotes, I think you actually may be onto something with this one. For once in her life, Bey will live in her baby sister’s shadow. New mommies always have a hard time living up to already established, bomb-a$$ mommies.
@NY2VA
“For once in her life, Bey will live in her baby sister’s shadow”
I’m willing to place a bet on this one.
basically, panama stays winning.
Sasha and Malia O would def baby-sit you know First Lady O wants the girls to grow up humble and hard working and what not
If Beyawnce was pregnant, Ciara would have a hit record, Kerri Hilson would gain relevance, Kirk Franklin would
come out that closetcome out with a secular album and the sale of baby lace fronts would go thru the roof.May I ask a question?
How is it that Kirk Franklin looks more comfortable in skinny jeans than most boys in their teens?
I’m just curious.
Kirk can do that because his alter ego Plies dresses that way.
Bruce wayne is to Batman as kirk Franklin is to Plies
I can’t with ya’ll today…I just can’t
THIS!
Omg I can’t breathe!
LMAO!
DEATHED!!!
So we can expect his new album to be called Goon For God?
Lemme get my food stamps ready for this one.
yes we can rewind. The first single “Make it plague on dese hoes” on iTunes now!
yes we can rewind. The first single “Make it plague on dese hoes” on iTunes now
@Rewind and Streetz
Ya’ll mofos are on a roll with the comedy today.
Good sh!t.
I wish I come up with some witty co-sign comment but my brain shut down from a mixture of allergy medicine and laughter. I am shot.
Man I wanna do this all day, I’m forgetting I actually have a job at this point
Followed up by the club banger “Bust It For Jesus”, an ode to the Bust It Baby of Bust It Babies…Mary Magdelne
Only to be followed by the strip club anthem, “Stop That Damn Weepin and Drop It Low.” – Shouts to Mary Mag.
________________FLATLINED________________
Tell Momma I love her.
Someone please come pick me up off the flo…. ya’ll are slaying me today!
::clutches heart again, falls out of the rolling chair again, dies…once again, but this time the customers are stealing merchandise out of the display cases::
Might just be me, but I really do think those two having a baby would disrupt the time/space continuum, and open up portals to different worlds like Fringe.
Will might have to his Men In Black role real seriously.
so yeah, this comment actually made me laugh out loud.
Aye Panama, I’m just saying…if in the future one day, the ground shakes and the sky is full of lightening at the same time, then you know….that B-day turned into D-day.
You were warned homie, you were warned.
Something about those two procreating just doesn’t sit well with me. Its like watching a gay man pretend to be straight while playing basketball…you can’t put your finger on it, but you just know something is just not right about it. A little off.
I’m really am not looking forward to the day they unleash little Damien unto the world. Them having children is really some Omen sh!t.
*Cue eerie catholic choir music* “Haw-Haw Hee-Hee Haw-Haw Hee-Hee*
@SoBo
“*Cue eerie catholic choir music* “Haw-Haw Hee-Hee Haw-Haw Hee-Hee* ”
Everytime I hear catholic choir music, I get a chill down my spine.
Yeah, that makes me feel better about myself. I thought I was the only one that got turned on watching “Sister Act” and “Sister Act 2″. Nice to know I’m not weird because of it.
that is creepy to think they would have a little caucasian boy with evil eyes and a bowl cut hairstyle. now that is almost to funny SoBo, i loose it everytime i think of your comment and picture that in my head.
I’m really am not looking forward to the day they unleash little Damien unto the world. Them having children is really some Omen sh!t.
*Cue eerie catholic choir music* “Haw-Haw Hee-Hee Haw-Haw Hee-Hee*
Lmao cut that mess out. You’re going to get me fired.
The Devil’s Advocate 2????
Ya’ll must think I’m playing.
When its time, the moment it’s little head pokes out of her womb in the delivery room, all you gonna hear is that Candyman music.
watch him drop Lucifer Remix once that kid is born
ChEA!!
I believe.
PT of Clarification:
Nas never has to respond to anything because Ether really was all he and hip hop needed.
Your list is KEY!! though, hahaha!
And you, Sir, need never comment ever again, because THIS comment RIGHT here is gospel!! Thank you.
yeah, gonna go ahead and say that “the takeover” was a better dis track than “ether”
and i actually mean that. jay hit him with actual factuals. nas was mostly just vitriolic slur language and sh*t. basically, jay was like a yankees fan pointing at all of the penants as a red sox fan yells out that the yankees suck.
I agree with this point, but lemme say this. Takeover is like the person in an argument who refuses to get mad, while Ether is like the person who keeps screaming and cursing all day long. No matter who looks more mature, who do you think was heard clearly by more people? The person yelling and screaming. That’s why everyone loves Ether though clearly Takeover is the swifter kick to the nuts.
No one REALLY thought Takeover . Ether when it dropped
No one rattled jay with one song like Nas. Not Pac Not Cam no one!
No one said what EVERYONE was sayin bout jay until Nas did.
No one says ‘You got Takeovered’
takeover was one verse directed at Nas
Ether was one song that changed a hip hop lexicon and battle rappin, just like Illmatic changed the game 10 years prior.
QED
Preach on it Streetz!
you’re absolutely right. nas’s song invaded public consciousness in a way that many folks gravitated towards it. it caused a ripple effect throughout hiphop.
just like soulja boy’s song “crank dat”.
just b/c it moves mountains doesnt make it great. lol.
Youre reaching now. I hope you see the desparation.
i’m not even reaching with that. i’m just saying, just b/c some sh*t invades the public consciousness doesnt make it automatically better.
ether is a great record. i just dont think its a better dis record than takeover. folks QUOTE takeover. it’s got so many quotables for folks to use when other folks step on their toes or get out of their lanes. folks just say you got “ethered”. nobody is running around quoting Nas. then again, thats been his problem most of his career. nobody quotes Nas anyway.
but anyway, im not comparing ether to crank dat. clearly they’re two completely diff records, but my point remains. i think people give ether the edge b/c they were so happy to have a motivated Nas back. he sounded like the Nas folks wanted him to be.
This much is true. But even if you say that, Takeover is more profound.
Takeover, with just one verse, damn near destroyed Nas’s career, resurrected it like the Phoneix by helping Nas get pissed enough to write Ether, and give Nas the crown for the only rapper in history to actually stick it to Jay the way Jay stuck it to Carmen. When a man hits you with straight facts and puts your entire life on the line which in turn makes you give 110% to getting back on your feet….well I think God’s will has been done.
Jay basically can say “I made you, God’s Son”….and who’s going to argue that? Not Nas, he too busy getting pissed at Def Jam…oops forgot who put him there too.
I’m just sayin!
No one argues that takeover gave Nas the inspiration to come back strong, but “made” nas?
jay is Nas’s biggest fan, or Nas is one shade below BIG. he damn near sampled him the first 2 albums, went on tour with him. he only got mad because Nas didnt show him AS MUCH love as he thought, and when he wanted to be #1 in hip hop he knew only Nas stood there, and he went for the gold and lost. Period.
So lets chill with revisionist history.
I will concede that in many aspects jay has solidified his top 5 status for now, but while dudes is still in the game, you cant write up careers yet.
That’s why I said God’s Son…because everything Nas is now is thanks to that battle with Jay. Let’s be real, at the rate Nas was going after Nastradaumus and the Bravehearts album….homie’s career was about to end real quick. I’m not talking about anything prior to that moment in time because we both know what kind of cred Nas used to have, and whatever relationship him & Jay had back in the day. But that was prior to 2001. And honestly, people weren’t listening to Nas on the mixtapes back then, but he was going straight for Jay’s neck for no reason, that’s exactly why he made Takeover.
@ Rewind
This battle is never ending so ima say this
1) nas’s buzz in hip hop before he came out was 100* what Jay’s was
2) nas put out 1 bad album and actually bravehearts had burn. Was he in danger of a bad streak? yup. Career over? Nope
3) There were subliminals on both sides. jay set a trap when he perfomed Takeover at Summer jam. Nas murdered cats with the Stillmatic freestyle, then jay dropped the Nas verse on Takeover and thought he won, until Ether.
4) Say what you want about Nas, but he changed the game, while Jay enhanced it. Think about that
5) Panama makin weak comebacks. LOL give it up son!
lol…i’m not making weak comebacks. but i clearly dont think ether was the better record. you are right, this is a neverending argument. one that has been going on for damn near 10 years at this point. lol.
No one REALLY thought Takeover . Ether when it dropped
No one rattled jay with one song like Nas. Not Pac Not Cam no one!
No one said what EVERYONE was sayin bout jay until Nas did.
No one says ‘You got Takeovered’
takeover was one verse directed at Nas
Ether was one song that changed a hip hop lexicon and battle rappin, just like Illmatic changed the game 10 years prior.
*Takeover > Ether when it dropped
@Streetz
c/s
And lets not forget Jay’s answer to “Ether”..”SuperUgly” was super weak. Jay stans never like to mention that turd.
yeah, Jay sh*t the bed when he responded to it. he knows. nas knew it. everybody knew it.
I almost choked @ “sh*t the bed.”
@ “…sh*t the bed”
lol! I might have to use this going forward.
Damn straight it was trash, I dunno why anyone would hurry to a studio to make a trash freestyle in rebuttle to a well-crafted diss record that pretty much made Jay’s balls shrivel up like oysters.
@Rewind
DEAD @ shrivel up like oysters
All I remember was Angie Martinez clinging on the Jay’s c0ck like her life depended on it…blowing “super ugly” up like it was the second coming
@LaLaBakir
Angie is nothing more than a hairier female version of Funk Master Flex.
They are record terrorists. They blow up what they’re paid to blow up.
@MrSoBo
LMAO! This is so true! But I feel like Angie has a thing for Jay on the low. She co-signs everything with him…it’s disgusting. She’s like a paid groupie.
I’m not going to lie, Hot 97 in general has been the condom on Jay’s d*ck for eons now. And I’ll always say this..Jay is my favorite rapper and I admire a lot of what he’s done, but I know deep down….he’s a douchebag. So why do they keep swinging on the sack like that?
And Angie….Flex…man I used to love them when I was younger. And then I grew up and learned the definition of the world “groupie”.
@LaLaBakir
LMAO! This is so true! But I feel like Angie has a thing for Jay on the low. She co-signs everything with him…it’s disgusting. She’s like a paid groupie.
She was rumored to be Amil’s replacement on the Roc. Somehow that fell through. IDK why she wasn’t the first woman of the Roc. Amil was an embarrassment.
Cosign Mr. SoBo, they are just record terrorists.
I remember being a faithful Hot 97 listener but the “hero worship” and d*ck ridin pretty much killed it for me. The only ones over there who weren’t slobbin everyone’s balls were Star and Bucwild. When they got gone I was totally done. NY radio used to define hip-hop. Hot 97 was the national barometer. Now they just play the same sh*t that plays on 106&Park.
Yeah, but he came back kind of hard on the bp2. “Can’t y’all, see that he’s fake, the rap version of TD jakes Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes… Cause you don’t understand him, it don’t mean that he nice
It just means you don’t understand all the bullshyt that he write Is it “Oochie Wally Wally” or is it “One Mic”? Is it “Black Girl Lost” or shorty owe you for ice?”
Not Ether but…
Nas is a much better rapper than Jay and SuperUgly was a drain clogger. I still have to go with “Takeover”.
Jay hit Nas’ flaky a** with facts and Nas just came back with insults.( Dope insults but insults. It was akin to the fight scene in Monty Python’s search for the Holy Grail when the Black Knight kept getting his arms and legs cut off and he would say “It’s just a flesh wound. It’s just a flesh wound.” No, you were exposed Hoss,
Jay punching him in the face made Nas, Nasty again. He started doing more Nas like rhymes and lefted Jungle, Wiz, and Horse in the dust.
Wooooooow. I’m with you on takeover vs. either. Nas did find himself after the battle and the hip hop world was better for it.
But to say Nas is a better rapper than Jay? Come on. I like Nas better, I like Nasir’s idea of Nas better. But just pure spitting, all ideology aside I can’t go along with that. I’ll give it to Nas as a better story teller but Jay is prolific and consistently good. Materialistic vein and as deep as a kiddy pool but he can out spit Nas any day of the week.
I feel like a lot of college educated afro-centric people want Nas to be liver than Jay because of what they represent respectively, but come onnnnnn?
A motivated Nasir Jones is a force hoss. I agree with you on Jay being prolific part and consistent. If Nasir, got out of Nas’ way he would be the best.
I’m college educated but I’m miles away from afro-centric. (His afrocentric-thug side is part of the flakiness I spoke of.) He actually lost me after he got all Earthy and what not.
bing-motherf*cking-o. nas’s potential might be better than jay, but he’s not the better rapper.
I’ll agree that Jones’ potential is better but Jay’s output has been a lot better. Advantage Carter.
@Wu
One love might be one of my top 3.72 rap songs ever so I kind of see what you’re saying, but just can’t cosign. Nas @ his best vs. Jay at his best, I’m still going with Jay.
Jay at his best is killing every Facet of rap. Word play, delivery, continuity, versatility, metaphors, proximate rhyming, he’s got it. Nas just isn’t as dynamic.
If we’re talking about people getting out of their own way then I got dre 3k (or maybe even the mighty mos).
I def feel Jay’s consistent output trumps Nas’s potential.
Nas lost with me ESCO and got me back but after God’s Son, Stillmatic etc I got bored with Nas, and I LOVED Illmactic, It was Written, etc. So yeah I don’t think Jay is shallow @ all, he has said some sh*t now, but I think sometimes the subject matter is tho…..
That battle was needed at that moment in hip hop, it prompted Nas out of a coma.
Kneegro Please.
Please step away from your Jay-Z stanship.
Cause next to Nas, Jigga gets gunned up and clapped quick.
From Panama to PJ, damn you on Jay d!ck.
Ether all day.
One of the best battle diss records to date.
@SoBo
“Ether all day. One of the best battle diss records to date.”
(nodding head in agreement) Yep!
@CNotes
What you think about Canibus’ 2nd Round Knockout as a diss record?
@SoBo
“What you think about Canibus’ 2nd Round Knockout as a diss record?”
“Now watch me rip the tat from your arm
Kick you in the groin, stick you for your vanguard award
In front of your mom your 1st, 2nd and 3rd born
Make your wife get on the horn call minister farrakhan”
That was a classic diss record IMO. As a matter of fact, the whole LL vs. Canibus beef was classic. Canibus woke his ass up! (although LL’s follow up was trash).
…and Canibus walked off into the light.
I wouldn’t want to begin what to think if they were pregnant. I just wonder why people are always pending a baby on Beyonce. She just doesn’t seem like the motherly type.
Baby Gap will def. have to move over or even collaborate, which isn’t a bad idea. The entire baby industry would be stimulated.
But if she was ‘preggers’ LOL we wouldn’t even get to see the baby. She’ll be walking around with a baby bump and still denying she’s pregnant.
Toddler lacefronts, Maybach power wheels, and kidzbop remixes.
hmmm sounds like the radio disney version of uprade u, knight jones should make a cameo appearance on the song
Lets just hope it’s a boy.
And you all already know why I say that.
If you don’t then just close your eyes and imagine a young girl that takes on Jay’s facial features.
http://shavarross.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/JAYONCE.jpg
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahaha
Can I be the one to say that poor child? The baby hasn’t even been born if even conceived. Maybe she will win the gene pool lottery and get the best of both. This kid is going to have a complex. Probabyly worse than Suri Cruise and people think she’s L.Ron Hubbards kid.
Damn this allergy medicine got me loose. I haven’t been able to spell in the last 2 days. Smh
oh hell
*repenting sins and passing away
Oh.My.Damn.
LoL, I’m just playing. I love them both and I wish them the best.
Because rich doesn’t do for an ugly girl what it does for an ugly guy.
Elelator go up. Elelator go down.
Elelator go up.
Elelator go down da hoooole.
You don’t push da button. I push da button. Not you. Me.
Man I’m bored as heck. :-/
Slow day at the office. *drums fingers on desk*
Whenever I catch a glimpse of a “Tiny Toon Adventures” rerun, I will set everything down, in order to watch it.
It’s the same way with “The Goonies”.
Since this has gone on for so long I have to just give my comments in summary.
If Beyonce is pregnant, I will be recording any and all TV appearances while she’s in that “thicker” phase of the process.
Ladies, having a kid is a personal choice, but adoption is the road to heaven.
Soulja Boy should be kidnapped and forced to watch an endless loop of the D.R.O.P. Squad movie. He’s the very reason I listen to the radio as little as possible.
There’s no way in hell Drake is a better rapper than Fabolous, he’s just hot right now.
Ah, I think I covered all the bases…..
Hilarious List! I’ve been reading a while, first time commenting. Just thought I’d share Solange has big sis beat on the children’s album. For your listening pleasure ….Twinkle Twinkle Baby Jamz style http://www.rhapsody.com/player?type=undefined&id=tra.16701458&remote=undefined&page=undefined&pageregion=undefined&guid=undefined&from=undefined&__pcode=
Hey! I’m a loyal reader from Gary, Indiana & that was a low blow.
This whole post was awesome. Nothing to add. Just wanted to say that.