5 Reasons Why The Gay Mafia Is So Fierce

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“The game done changed”

“Game’s the same, just got more fierce”

Yesterday, as I read another one of the hundreds of thousands of articles about Tracy Morgan and his apology tour, I couldn’t help but feel a tinge of envy. I’m sure this — the fact that I’d feel envious while reading an article about Tracy Morgan — isn’t that surprising. Millions of people would also be envious of a person who manages to make millions of dollars for being a professional damn fool who also happens to be occasionally funny.

But, what is surprising about this envy is the fact that Tracy Morgan isn’t the one who caused me to be green. No, f*ck Tracy, I’m completely in awe of, enamored with, impressed by, and jealous of the vastness of the Gay Mafia’s powers.

You probably think I’m being facetious, but you can’t help but take notice of a group that manages to make a comedian who’s made an entire career out of saying shockingly stupid (and shockingly lazy) sh*t spend an entire summer apologizing for…saying some shockingly stupid (and shockingly lazy) sh*t. I mean, I don’t know exactly how much money Morgan has made in his career, but I’m assuming that he has “F*ck you!” money. Basically, he’s rich enough to just say “F*ck you, I’m not apologizing for sh*t” and retire to Turks and Caicos, but he still was able to be strong-armed by this group. Who knew the real life Deebos all drove Priuses?

Anyway, the fact they they’ve been able to publicly bitch a 45 year old rich black guy from Bed-Stuy is just one of the many reasons why the Gay Mafia is so gotdamn fierce.

Here’s 4 more

2. They unapologetically hijack sh*t

Exactly what sh*t have they hijacked? Well, lets start off with the word “gay.”

Ok, ok, ok. I know they weren’t entirely responsible for this kidnapping. The word was, um, given to them, but they’ve never given it back!

Now, when people like me are slaving over blog entries, racking our brains for three letter synonyms for “happy” that begin with “g,” I have to run to a thesaurus because using “gay” just doesn’t f*king work anymore.

They’ve also managed to hijack the word “fierce,” the term “partner,” the rainbow, tie-dye t-shirts, butterflies, ice cream cones, and Tyra Banks.

3. They’re stealth

Unlike the Natural Hair Mafia (who can usually be detected by just paying attention to the nearing smell of nag champa) and the real Mafia (who can usually be detected by just paying attention to the nearing smell of money clips, Adidas sweat suits, and canoli), the Gay Mafia is virtually undetectable; a roving, shape-shifting mass with the ability to surround and engulf without any warning.

Basically, they’re exactly like a really bad fart, but with a really killer fashion sense and a 72% stake in Miramax.

4. They have everyone completely shook

In the three years since VSB first launched, I’ve said “questionable” things about (in no particular order) myself, black men, black women, white women, white men, midgets, crackheads, Mexicans, Deltas, AKA’s, Kappas, Pittsburgh, dead people, NYC, MLK, Michael Jackson, Harlem, Cincinnati, the space program, short men, tall women, my parents, my girlfriend, my penis, the entire South American continent, people who don’t agree with me, people who do agree with me, people with stupid names, Detroit, everything below the Mason-Dixon line, and God.

And, from what I’ve been told, this — the fact that I try not to segregate my snark — is one of my best and most appreciated qualities as a writer.

Now, I happened to have Gchat open yesterday while I was writing this entry, and I told three of my more snark-appreciating and encouraging friends about my plans for today’s post.

Their responses:

Friend 1:

“um…where you going with this?. if in the end you’re saying “i love the gays”. i guess it’s cool. but you have to be careful. i think you’d be ok. but you may need to do the obligatory disclaimer in bold at the top of the blog post”

Friend 2:

“Down with your head. Hope you have your suit picked out for your funeral”

Friend 3:

“do you have any gay friends to float the idea with?. im not saying u gotta be totally pc, but its good to get a gauge. dont want to end up like Hustle Man. he’s pickin up the pieces

*mournfully plays the kazoo”

Seriously, though, when did this happen? When did we all become scared to death of the Gay Mafia, and when the hell did gay people become Candyman? Who made the rule that if you say “American Apparel” five times in the mirror, Nathan Lane will jump out and disembowel you?

5. They straight-up murder careers

I went car shopping with Lady Champ a few days ago. She wasn’t looking to buy anything, but she just wanted to get an idea about prices and test drive a few models.

Anyway, a black salesman was particularly helpful while we were there; recommending certain models, letting us know about certain deals,and generally being very accommodating. He had a familiar face and voice, but I couldn’t quite place where I recognized him from. After drawing blanks on the usuals — “Where are you from?”, “Did I play ball with you?”, “What high school did you go to?”, etc — I finally broke down and just asked him for his full name.

His reply?

“Isaiah Washington”

Anyway, people of VSB.com, are you also completely scared of the Gay Mafia? Do you check your closets at night for Rosie O’Donnell like I do?

Also, can you think of any other examples of their fierceness, and can someone please tell me exactly how they grew to be so damn gangsta?

—The Champ

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677 thoughts on “5 Reasons Why The Gay Mafia Is So Fierce”

  1. Hijacked rainbows. Rainbows used to be about ya know ummm, post rainstorm hope and sh*t, Care Bears, and gangsta leprechauns selling bootleg lucky charms. Nope not anymore, they straight up stole it.

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    • I know right. Rainbow Brite used to be my girl, but I can’t sport her anymore unless I want folks thinking I like vajayjay (and that I’m a 4 year old)

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    • Alise… let me tell you how upset at the rainbow thing..i’m madder than than a bee looking at a picture of flowers sprayed with perfume… i’m more confused than a cow on a lawn of astroturf… how can people take a beautiful natural phenomenon and take that as their symbol?? just out the blue and shyt? did they even have a national/international vote or anything? rainbows belong to the whole world!!! i love rainbows and like wearing them… i dare a broad to to try to test me… what’s next? transexuals stealing waterfalls? bisexuals using lightening bolts?!?!?! hmpf i’m saying you can be gay why couldn’t they just use the ? ? and just double them up?!?!?!

      #TakingBackMyRainbow

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    • Fck a rainbow. All bright and happy and hopeful and sht. But has one ever ended in a pot of gold for me? Hell no.

      Roy G. Biv can suck a fat one as far as I’m concerned.

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    • I was just thinking/reminded the other day that rainbows were originally a sign of God’s promise to man that he would never again destroy humanity via a flood like he did with Noah….and yet the gays have hijacked the rainbow from God.

      Definitely gangster, those gays.

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      • @Liz Thanks what I was thinking! God told Noah that would be a continual promise, i really have been wondering for a while HOW and WHY they chose that as their “symbol/colors”. Especially given the original strong religious context.

        *wonders*

        and yea that def = ganster

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      • I’ve been mad about the rainbows for a while now.

        I figure a trade is in order. We get the Rainbow back….but we gotta give up something.

        Smiley faces, maybe? The big yellow one? Or a flipped wrist? Suggestions welcome!

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    • “Hijacked rainbows. Rainbows used to be about ya know ummm, post rainstorm hope and sh*t, Care Bears, and gangsta leprechauns selling bootleg lucky charms. Nope not anymore, they straight up stole it.”

      You know, somewhere amongst a fruity cloud, Skittles are SUPER pissed that tasting the rainbow ain’t primarily associated with them anymore. And as a Skittles enthusiast/expert (long medium-length story as to why… has something to do with my last name being mispronounced and it becoming my nickname in school), I am pissed on behalf of them. Vicariously, even.

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    • “Rainbows used to be about ya know ummm, post rainstorm hope and sh*t, Care Bears, and gangsta leprechauns selling bootleg lucky charms.”

      so basically, rainbows have always been gay?

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  2. That last line made me gasp!

    As for why the gays rule…they have stock in pretty much every freaking thing. That and, on average, they cry/stan/protest more about small children, education, equality, animals, rights (civil and implied), politicis, fashion, and music than most straight folks. Revolutionaries with rainbows – that’s always been the dream. :)

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      • *adding my laughter to this comment* lol

        ….almost fell out of my office chair when I read “Who knew the real life Deebos all drove Priuses?” lol…took a while to get focused to read the rest of the entry.

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  4. RIP Isaiah Washington’s career.
    But now that you mention it, I think a lot of us do tip toe around gayness and such. If you do make a joke about the gays, you have to wrap it in fabulousness and play Elton John music while you’re doing it just to make sure nobody jumps out the closet and b*tch slaps you (no pun intended)

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    • My thing is this…

      There was a talk show once and an episode called “Gay is the new Black” which likened being gay to being black and the guests on the show were saying that they have to deal with now what black people had to deal with in the ’60s and prior and that black people should understand the most but are more passive about it all and made the most jokes.

      What does it mean when a person can’t take a joke (even a terrible one by Tracy Morgan?)?

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      • I wince when I hear folk likening the Gay Struggle to the Black Struggle…..the two just aren’t in the same category.

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        • in my Riley Freeman voice: Yall ni99az is gaY
          Agreed! I know it may be an unpopular/controversial opinion, but I can’t stand it when people try to compare being black to being gay….
          .If someone doesn’t want people to Know that they’re gay/lesbian they live on the dl etc …you can’t really dl being black…

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        • They aren’t the same, but they have more similarities than any other discriminatory act in history. Deaths, assimilation/denial of themselves, defecting, inability to marry whom they choose. I can understand the similarities and I appreciate the struggle…however…

          I’on’t know. I just feel that black people had a harder hill to climb and to compare the two and expect sympathy instead of ask for understanding isn’t really kosher.

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          • but it’s not like slaves, other black people etc could just say hmm I know I’m black, but today when I walk down the street, go out in the fields etc, I can choose NOT to be black ..o__O …

            .I watched something on Oprah where a lady for years knew she was gay, but pretended to be “straight” married, kids, the way she dressed, , etc. then divorced BOOM decides to come out announce to family etc that they’re publically gay, but for years they pretended/acted and people thought they were straight!…

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            • I read a geneology story about a family of Johnsons who, for four or so generations thought they were white. The were invited to a family reunion/bbq and were surprised to find out they were black….well, half. The great-great grandfather had kept a diary of his “passing” and the family went down the family tree and found them. Surprise!

              I think what we fail to think about with people passing is the guilt they must feel, and the hurt and anger issues they have to go through denying who they are and where they come from. Passing hurts not just the immediate person but their family as a whole.

              I’m not saying it’s the same, but the similarities are there.

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          • It baffles me how there are some gays who seriously think the two are comparable beyond senseless killings. I won’t go into a history tirade but the black struggle was a battle for the most basic human rights. The right to be more than 3/5 of a person is something that the gay community will NEVER be able to relate to.

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            • gay ? being black
              American society would rather a gay white/nonblack male/female to be in a leadership/power position rather than a straight black male..

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            • There is no such thing as gay oppression. Discrimination against gays doesn’t happen enough to ever make a class action. There has never been a disenfranchised gay community. Anti gay violence happens so seldom, it always makes on the news. And yet they were able to hijack civil rights. Cause they don’t want anyone making them feel bad about what they do in the dark. they even got the church running scared, trying to edit the good book to appease them. Yeah they fierce, but I ain’t scared. Bring it!

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              • Anti-gay violence happens everyday. It’s what some folks call “bullying” but it goes above and beyond what most folk think of when they hear that word.

                IMO they didn’t hijack civil rights. They just want the same right to live like anyone else. And it’s not about them not wanting to feel bad about what they do in the dark (they shouldn’t); it’s about them not wanting to feel like they are freaks and aberrations and deserving of hate, scorn and shunning.

                How can black folks seriously want to deny someone else what we have been and are continuing to die and struggle for? This is what isn’t making sense to me right now.

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                • The thing is, they’ve not been denied anything. People get bullied for all kinds of reasons. What is the solution? Is being bullied a violation of civil rights? How do you address that? In the courts?

                  Unless you are talking about marriage rights, I don’t see how gays are denied anything on any type of scale. People keep repeating the words “equal rights” and everyone falls into line and says yeah, I’m all for equal rights. But no one can give any statistics of their civil rights being violated as a norm. When you talk about marriage, the funny thing is they can get the same rights with a civil union. But they don’t want rights. They want acceptance. The word equal rights is so powerful, it shuts up most dissenters and people dont stop to think about what exactly they are talking about.

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                  • And what’s wrong with wanting acceptance? Not being allowed to get married because of your orientation is like us not being allowed to go to a certain place because of our race. You may not care about being able to walk into that place; there may be a place for “your people” that is just as good. But that’s not the point, is it? The point is that you are being discriminated against and told you are inferior. And what’s the basis? Your color? Meaningless. Who you have sex with? Trivial.

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                    • Nothing wrong with wanting acceptance. Everyone wants acceptance. I want acceptance for my lifestyle. I can’t marry three men. I was born with a high sex drive and short attention span. Seriously. Acceptance is not a civil right. You cannot make people accept you and that is what the gay mafia is trying to do. Force, bully, loud talk, smoke and mirror their way to acceptance.

              • I think discrimination, disenfranchisement, and violence happens more than people realize. The problem is that it’s not publicized as a hate crime and therefore categorized in the normal population of assault according to the police. I think that’s evidenced by the fact that AIDS was (and to some still is) the “Gay disease”. Rock Hudson fell from stardom when he vocalized his sexual preference. Most homosexual people are closeted about their preference which is why “coming out” is such a big deal. The gay population is distinguished by the “flaming” few.

                We as black people get pissed whenever the entire race is categorized by those in jail, deadbeat dads, project moms, and welfare recipients. Why shouldn’t gay folks get pissed when they are categorized by ATL & San Fran????

                Question: If there is no such thing as gay oppression then why do we see so much gay segregation?

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              • I think discrimination, disenfranchisement, and violence happens more than people realize. The problem is that it’s not publicized as a hate crime and therefore categorized in the normal population of assault according to the police. I think that’s evidenced by the fact that AIDS was (and to some still is) the “Gay disease”. Rock Hudson fell from stardom when he vocalized his sexual preference. Most homosexual people are closeted about their preference which is why “coming out” is such a big deal. The gay population is distinguished by the “flaming” few.

                We as black people get pissed whenever the entire race is categorized by those in jail, deadbeat dads, project moms, and welfare recipients. Why shouldn’t gay folks get pissed when they are categorized by ATL & San Fran????

                Question: If there is no such thing as gay oppression then why do we see so much gay segregation?

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                • I’m a lawyer. The only reason I bring that up is because there is a large body of law and cases defining discrimination, hate crimes, civil rights and disenfranchisement.

                  If gay people suffered widespread or institutional discrimination or oppression, you would have lawsuits that would become precedent. They have the money and influence to mobilize, so they could sue if they had a case. The fact that there is no gay discrimination precedent says a lot.

                  It doesn’t happen often enough. And that is just fact.

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                  • First of all as an attorney you should know that what you just spouted is utter garbage for two main reasons and a slew of other reasons…

                    1. Lack of precedent does not mean that the issue is non-existent… It simply means that no other attorney has used that particular case as a basis for their case… There is a precedent for EVERY case that comes before the court because in order to come before the court you have to have an issue of law… All precedent means is that there was a case that was decided in a court of law and the attorney liked the outcome of that case and used the judge’s decision as a guide for their judge…

                    Ask yourself this… How many cases of little black girls and little black boys who were disenfranchised, oppressed, segregated, humiliated and mistreated by public schools went unreported or undocumented or determined a non-issue prior to Brown V. Board of Ed???

                    2. As much as we would like to believe that justice is blind, the courts are governed by the people they serve… Justices can only hear the information they are presented…

                    This has been supported by the court’s recent Wal-Mart decision. It completely obliterated your “They have the money and influence to mobilize, so they could sue if they had a case,” defense. Why??? Because regardless of how much money and influence gay people have there are still more heterosexual (or passing as heterosexual) people who have more money and influence. You mean to tell me that women don’t have money and influence???

                    The impact of gay crimes on society would create an adverse strain on the police departments and the court systems. Hate crimes use an intense amount of money and man power. Most communities cannot afford the cost. For this reason, most police departments are leery of calling a crime a hate crime.

                    What’s the alternative??? Civil lawsuits??? Yeah… Those will be effective…

                    I think the real question you should ask yourself before you start stating opinions as fact is how many cases regarding gay issues have come before the court. Then ask yourself, how many of those issues actually had valid legal arguments. Perhaps then you can remove the bias from your thought process.

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                  • You are a lawyer so I’m sure you realize that you can’t have a lawsuit unless there is a law broken or right violated. I bet in 1959, a lawyer could make the same argument about discrimination against people of color.

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                    • That’s incorrect. The fourteenth amendment, among others guarantees equal rights. It’s in the constitution. If someone was discriminated against because they are gay, they can sue.

                    • @wild cougar… Yes the 14th amendment does guarantee equal protection, HOWEVER, Mr Wee Thomas is correct… If no one can prove that their 14th Amendment rights have been violated then you can’t site that amendment as a basis for bringing suit… If the situation is not treated as a 14th Amendment violation from the beginning then it is going to be difficult proving cause at grand jury time… I’m guessing you don’t practice criminal law???

                  • Ok let’s go there. To have a case for discrimination based on sexual orientation, you need to show they knew you were gay. Then you need to show they discriminated against you because you are gay.

                    Otherwise its not discrimination. If it was widespread, you would have cases that had enough evidence. It’s not like they just got resources to hire lawyers fifty years ago.

                    You could say discrimination happens but they can’t prove it, but really? They never get a clear cut case? They have a high enough population so that if it was a widespread thing, wed have some precedent. Believe me, we have enough influential gay people to get a class action moving.

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                    • No, I don’t practice criminal law. But since I’m talking about the constitution as it relates to discrimination in hiring, housing, accommodations, etc, I’m thinking criminal law knowledge wouldn’t be a prerequisite.

                    • “Ok let’s go there. To have a case for discrimination based on sexual orientation, you need to show they knew you were gay. Then you need to show they discriminated against you because you are gay.”

                      I’m sooooooo glad you said that… Let’s dissect that shall we…

                      1. “you need to show they knew you were gay. ”

                      Scenario A: A young extroverted gay man gets assaulted in the parking lot of a supermarket after coming out the stores. All of the witness accounts collected from the police when investigating the crime state that the accused had no afore knowledge that the victim was gay… They saw nothing wrong with a man wearing pink and carrying a handbag… They thought it was a European Shoulder Bag… They were upset because the victim took the parking space they were waiting for an in-turn reacted violently by assaulting the victim. During the course of the assault they called the victim a faggot and that’s why the victim is trying to call it a hate crime… The police charged the accused with aggravated assault…

                      Scenario B: A man goes for an interview as controller of a Fortune 1000 company. At the conclusion of the interview, the CEO determines that the interviewer is not qualified for the position although he’s held the position of controller previously. The CEO then recommends someone with less qualifications (never held the position of controller) for the same position. The interviewer, when discussing the interview with his partner, realizes that this is the same man who he had a confrontation with on the street 6 months ago when he first “stole” is partner from the CEO. The CEO is married with 3 children and a closeted homosexual. The statement issued by the partner was hearsay and held no weight in a grand jury hearing since the partner learned of the confrontation from the interview candidate.

                      How do you prove this? BTW, these were both cases that came before a grand jury and were both thrown out. Does it mean that they did not occur? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! It means that the powers that be did not want to touch the case because of the implications…

                      2. “Then you need to show they discriminated against you because you are gay.”

                      I would hope that if you are worth the paper your degree is printed on that you know this is the most DIFFICULT thing to prove because it’s based on that little itty bitty thing called motive (human nature and thought) which in the case of discrimination you have to go into a person’s past and uncover the issue that may have led to the bias in the first place… We are not talking 1959 where people hated blacks just because it was cool to do so and it was easy to spot a black person from a mile away… We are talking about people admitting that the were molested, abused, or harbored same sex feelings, which we already know that the MAJORITY of people who have ever been molested or abused don’t report these issues to the police so you can’t go searching police records for this information. Therapy sessions are protected through privilege… Most homophobics don’t wear “I Hate Gays” arm bands as if they were Nazis… Uncovering this information can (and most often will) exceed the statue of limitations because of the immense digging you have to do in each case…

                      How do you prove this? Does it mean that they did not occur? ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! It means that the powers that be make it difficult to proceed with the case because of the implications…

                      “Otherwise its not discrimination. If it was widespread, you would have cases that had enough evidence. It’s not like they just got resources to hire lawyers fifty years ago.”

                      That is probably the most asinine of your statements… Slavery was not discrimination??? Segregation was not discrimination??? How many times did the acts occur before they were outlawed???

                      Finally… “But since I’m talking about the constitution as it relates to discrimination in hiring, housing, accommodations, etc, I’m thinking criminal law knowledge wouldn’t be a prerequisite.”

                      Are you saying that violating the constitution is not a crime??? Hmmmmm interesting concept… Did they teach you that in law school??? If so, please tell me which school this was so that I can make sure that NO ONE goes there!!!

                      Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t every law school require students to take criminal law courses??? Why do you think that is??? If you don’t understand the basic principal of criminal law or criminal aspects of an action then how can you really effectively assist a client who has been a victim of discrimination which is a CRIME according to the 14th Amendment??? Criminal law is ABSOLUTELY a prerequisite…

                    • (Referring to the long a** comment below) Wow. This one goes hard in the paint. It’s not a competition sista. This is why I don’t bring up my profession. Some people take that as a cue to start a who is smarter pissing contest. I’ve been doing this long enough so I don’t need to prove anything.

                      Woosah!

                      Suggestion: personal attacks take away from your argument and make you look less educated. Maybe you might want to refrain in the future. Ijs.

            • You got it. Blacks were fighting for HUMAN rights. Gays can walk the same streets, eat at the same places, ride the same buses and attend the same schools, etc. As a Black person, I get offended when I hear the comparison.

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              • Well they can, but what happens when they do? They’re gawked at, ridiculed, and in some places they’ll get their @sses beat. That’s not freedom to me, nor is it enjoying their human rights.

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                • I see this as apples and oranges. You cannot make people like anything. The fact is that it’s legal for them to go to those places and utilize these institutions. That wasn’t the case for black folks. They can vote, own property, eat at any restaurant, stay in any hotel, attend any university, etc. These are rights. Also, the treatment you speak of still happens to black folks in some places. You cannot make it illegal for people to gawk…ask any interracial couple, midget, morbidly obese person, etc…If they are assaulted, it is illegal and is punishable by law, just like everyone else.

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                  • Okay, apples and oranges. I get that. They’re both still oppression, and while they’re not exactly the same, they’re definitely similar. More similar than we seem to want to admit.

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            • right, even today, their main beefs are to be married and serve openly in the military. I’m for both, but why hold up the interests of other serious issues such as the economy and healthcare over Adam and Steve wanting to be married?

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            • Sheryl Underwood did a bit on that some years back. She said that unless their ancestors had been kidnapped from their home continent of Homosexia, survived the middle passage, and had been enslaved, they have no claim to the same struggle.

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            • Like how MOST entertainment companies, literature, fashion, editorial, political, educational industries are CEO’d by primarily gay white men > we can’t say the same for original folks.

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            • why you gotta bring me and my plus size princesses up in this mix huh??!?!?! after i cued up the welcome lapdance music for you yesterday and gave you glitter in monochromatic colors… hmpf.. i see now

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            • A lot of people believe this. And I think this is a big reason why rights for homosexuals are so easily dismissed. Like if you choose to live that way you choose the consequences.

              I don’t think it’s a choice any more than being heterosexual is a choice. At least for most people. It’s those that are gay for play that make it hard for people that actually have no choice in who they are attracted to and fall in love with.

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        • “I wince when I hear folk likening the Gay Struggle to the Black Struggle…..the two just aren’t in the same category.”

          I do, too. Even whilst being strong proponents for both struggles. I just don’t like “Oppression Olympics” in general. (i.e. “my struggle is worse than yours nyah nyah nyah!) And while I understand the argument, “how can one group for civil rights deny another group”, it’s unequally targeting seeing as how racism occurs in the gay community as well. There are a lot of gay minorities who suffer exclusion within their own community. So, if we need to come together and fight the good fight, both sides have to take a step.

          Besides, if ANYTHING were to win the struggle contest, it would be Chingy’s career. So…

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    • Isaiah Washington was legendary for being an utter jackazz. He didn’t even mean it in a homophobic way, he was just being a d*ck. Even on Larry King, he said he would have easily called him a n*gga. But he messed with the wrong demographic, doe. *pours likka out for his career*

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  5. Gay Mafia = Illuminati. Tyrese has a best-selling book and spent Father’s Day in the Hamptons, but let him tweet some homophobic stuff tomorrow. He be done found hisself back in Watts on the city bus with nothing to his name but a coke and a smile.

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  7. Nope. But all the gay people I’ve met are fond of me though so the thought of being ‘attacked’ by them has never really crossed my mind. I’m always openly critical of organizations like GLAAD though.

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      • AC, you’re extra right. I’m against physical abuse or hate speech (calling things gay or the f word), because that’s cruel. But I think the term “homophobia” has been overused.

        1. Cee-Lo got in “trouble” for a homophobic tweet. http://www.examiner.com/celebrity-headlines-in-national/cee-lo-green-homophobic-comments-on-twitter-picture. But the joke itself is confusing as this guy dresses up in feather outfits, and the women who it was directed at said she wasn’t even offended. (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b248478_cee_lo_says_sorry_outrageous_homophobic.html)

        2. And now in some circles, anyone who opposes gay marriage is also labeled homophobic. What if someone’s opposition to gay marriage is rooted more in their religious belief (jewish, muslim, etc.) than a supposed dislike of gay people? Heck, even some gay people don’t believe in gay marriage. Are they homophobic too?

        My point is this: Saying the f word, calling things gay, trying to verbally or physically assault all gay people <–that's homophobic
        Making a confusing joke, opposing gay marriage on moral grounds, or some other issue that GLAAD wants to attach to homophobia instead of general douchebaggery<—not homophobic

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        • “I’m against physical abuse or hate speech (calling things gay or the f word), because that’s cruel. But I think the term “homophobia” has been overused.”

          Good points, folk…interestingly enough, tho, I think that more than a few folks feel the same way about the word “racism” or “racist” (i.e., it’s been overused or used inappropriately)

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          • I’m one of those folks. That’s why I don’t like Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton. I feel that over the years they have played the race/racist/racism card too often just to get their faces on t.v. and their names in the papers.

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            • Lots of folk claim racism all day e’ry day, not just Jesse or Al. Many times it’s legit, but sometimes it’s used simply as a scapegoat/excuse when someone feels wronged. I know that racism nowadays is much more covert than it was in days past, but I think some folks actually use the threat of racism (be it real or perceived) as a crutch.
              The racism known to a 60 yo blk man and that of a 30 yo blk man are worlds apart.

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              • Personally for all the sh!t black people have been threw Ion’t believe there is a such thing as being too sensitive concerning racism… not to say every black joke offends me but dammit I’m entitled and JUSTIFIED in being offended should I choose to be.

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            • Agree with all this; there are people that use racism, and even bait racism, to keep the themselves in the spotlight.

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              • The thing is, you can’t bait something that isn’t there. It is important to shed light on covert racism, so that those being victimized by it can recognize it. Also, let’s not get it twisted. You know why so many of us feel a kind of way about Rev Sharpton? Because of the skewed portrait the whyte media has painted of him. Most folks outside of Harlem have no idea of the real work that man has put in for his people over the years. has he taken on some wack causes? Probably. Has he effed up on his job, sure, but we all have. The point is, for every sensationalized story we’ve seen about him, there are hundreds of non-sensational, everyday in the trenches, civil rights actions for which he is responsible. The media has managed to make us groan collectively with everyone else when we see or hear his name, but the majority of us really know nothing of this man’s work. It’s messed up because it happens with our folks so often. We give the folks who are working for us the side-eye because it seems like we should. That, my friends, is one of the best illustrations of institutional racism I’ve ever seen.

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                • I wasn’t thinking specifically of him but when I said “bait” (that may not have been the appropriate word) I mean including race in discussions for seemingly no reason other than to make it about race. That doesn’t omit Mr. Sharpton, but I’m thinking of random news shows and “roundtable” type discussions. Just because an issue affects black people more often doesn’t necessarily mean it’s about black people or race.

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                  • Just because an issue affects black people more often doesn’t necessarily mean it’s about black people or race.

                    It doesn’t necessarily mean it is a case of racism, but am I wrong for checking? If I don’t explore the fact that it could be and it turns out that it is, how can I possibly make it stop. This is one of the reasons why it is so difficult to close the achievement gap. A lot of folks don’t want to look at schooling with racialized lenses for fear of what they will find. The reason why covert racism is so much more powerful than overt racism is because you don’t notice it, but you damn sure notice the effects. Trouble is, most people can’t recognize what they are seeing the effects of. And the people who can see it and have the courage to call it out are accused of playing the race card, like racism is some kind of fun game, like spades or whist.

                    I love having these convos with you, WIP. You keep me sharp.

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                    • LOL, glad I could be of service. I see your point- once you have the power and knowledge to uncover covert racism you then examine every issue otherwise, how will you know? Although it seems the consequence is becoming a nag, if you will. Like the girlfriend that’s always trying to catch her man cheating. The black people I’m thinking of give me that feeling, always trying to catch the racist.

          • “I’m against physical abuse or hate speech (calling things gay or the f word), because that’s cruel. But I think the term “homophobia” has been overused.”

            Good points, folk…interestingly enough, tho, I think that more than a few folks feel the same way about the word “racism” or “racist” (i.e., it’s been overused or used inappropriately)

            i agree with both. you can add “misogynistic” to that pile as well

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        • “calling things gay”

          I do this all the time. I know it’s a slippery slope, but I don’t mean it in terms of $exual orientation, I mean it to imply that something is stupid or annoying. And before anyone rejoins with a “what if white people apply the same reasoning to the N word?” please know that I have already acknowledged this logical flaw, and don’t care. lol

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          • Lol I like that you own yours. Respect. But would you still use the word that way and not care if, say, you had a kid who turned out to be gay?

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            • If my son were gay I would definitely do it. Not to be mean spirited, but as a means of acceptance. “wassup, c*ck sucker. how was school?” If he’s anything like me, he’ll understand the humor.

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        • Well, #2 is tricky. There was a time when religious belief backed up slavery. I think the “you can read the bible to say x” argument tends not to fly so well anymore.

          But in that case, no, they are not homophobic, they are ignorant. Same issue happens with racism. . .

          Did I hear something about comparing the gay struggle to the black struggle?

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        • How weird, I know a lesbian that doesn’t believe in gay marriage. Would that be the same as if a black person was against the Civil Right movement. What’s the logic?

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      • i think gay people feel like black ppl do when we hear 2520′s say n!gga. Although they may not have meant it like that (ie. quoting rap lyrics) we quick to get mad and offer a back hand to that arse (altough i strongly believe we are the most racist group of pl on the planet). So when i say my homeboy did something gay, i secretly look look over my shoulder, cuz word on the street is that gay guys can FIGHT.

        And Donnell Rawlings had perhaps the greatest response to the gay takeover when he jokingly suggested we have a straight pride day, where all the guys march with beers and dirty wifebeaters, farting and doing man stuff.

        They takin over yo. And is it just me, or do you get jealous when you see a lesbian with a better lining and better looking girlfriend than you?

        #IMJUSTSAYIN

        Disclaimer: No woman is badder than my girl.

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    • so basically if you are not homosexual and don’t want to be confused as such you’re homophobic?? i’m really asking amaur.. what exactly did she say to you?!?!

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      • was trying to prove that “not all young black men are gangstas” and that saying “no homo” implies homophobia which is a “linchpin of gangsta culture”

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        • Burr? She needs to stop. Gangstas ain’t the only ones that refer to themselves as no homos (? lol)… booooo, no homo means “that sound like a homosexual statement but I’m not homosexual”

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        • i hate when people say no homo.

          if you’re not gay, why would you have to use that disclaimer? things are only “homo” if you mean it in a homosexual way.

          i work at a high school and my ears are barraged with this “no homo” thing all day. like i read somewhere else recently (i think it was Cheekie who said it but iono), saying no homo is akin to hugging your mom and saying “no incest.” lol. i just don’t get it.

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      • I think what the teacher was trying to point out was, why do you even need to make that distinction? What is so intrinsically wrong that you would not want to be considered ‘homo’.

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        • And therein lies the rub. This is why the debate is futile. The gay mafia is never going to get straight men to buy into the “what’s wrong if people think your gay?” movement. Not gonna happen, do not pass go, do not collect $200. It’s a non-starter argument. For me its no different than me not wanting people to think I’m a part of the Tea Party, that I like Tyler Perry movies, or that I’m a Miami Heat fan. I just can’t. Both sides should just agree to disagree.

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          • The gay mafia is never going to get straight men to buy into the “what’s wrong if people think your gay?” movement. Not gonna happen, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

            yea, nubian, a man (especially a black man) being thought of as possibly gay is romantic suicide.

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          • You know you can be a black man and be gay, right? I just think a lot of hetero black men are hyper aware of the ‘things’ (spoooooky) that may make them even APPEAR to be gay…and that’s silly to me. What is perceived as ‘gay’will change, so it’s pointless to add a ‘no homo’ to it.

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        • Most people think homosexuality is wrong Nubian. That’s why. People do not want to be associated or accused of being gay and that’s perfectly natural. As a sometimes gay person, this does not offend me. Gays should expect that.

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          • im a sporadically part time gay myself but trying to make ppl like gayness especially hetero males is unrealistic and intrusive… they want to be proud of who they are so hetero men can be proud too… and there are sooo many things ppl don’t want to be confused with… don’t call me a jersey-ite (or whatever they are called), a columbian (i have no beef with my latino ppl but i rep for MY country and no one should have a problem with that), a cellist or whatever… ppl should understand that ppl want to be associated with things that are of themselves and don’t make such a big deal about it…

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      • Actually, that is the problem.

        Who cares if something “sounded” homosexual. Unless you’re a guy with a d!ck in his mouth, it really doesn’t matter. That you need to throw up a disclaimer suggests there is something about homosexuals that you don’t like. Or that by somehow making a statement with a double entendre that refers to homosexual relations, you must then be somehow homosexual. Or that you are afraid that by your statement alone you will be branded a homosexual.

        Pretty much any rationale for that statement fits the definition of homophobic.

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  10. I saw Isaiah Washington’s premier on Single Ladies last night. :-/ So it’s indeed safe to say his career was axed by the gay mafia. Shouts to them. Black America needs to study their technique. Impressive

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