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Hey Y’all, His Name Is Eddie KING, Jr. Not Eddie Kane, Jr. Here’s How I Know.

Actors Tico Wells, Leon, Robert Townsend and Michael Wright pose in the press room at the BET Awards held at the Shrine Auditorium on June 26, 2011, in Los Angeles. (Jason Merritt/Getty Images)

 

It is amazing how a simple comment or Facebook status message can lead to clarity, but that’s exactly what happened that has me out here doing it for the culture and providing some definitive information to settle bets that have languished for years. Hell, I, myself, lost $20 on this very discussion because of a bet that I placed where I just KNEW The Five Heartbeats lead singer was, in fact, Eddie Kane, Jr.

I was, in fact, wrong. So let’s set the table.

Kendrick Lamar – you may have heard of him – recently released his latest album, DAMN., to much fanfare and discussion on the Internets. The discussions have spread low and wide and if you’re Black and listen to music, there’s a better than 90 percent chance you have at some point in the past four days had a discussion about this album.

On this discussion-heavy album, there is a song called “GOD.” which I love. I listen to it all the time. It features many things held near and dear to Black people including the statement “don’t judge me” and a reference to El Debarge and his finger waves, long held to be one of the 9 wonders of the Black world. I cannot name the other 8 because that would be snitching, which is frowned upon, and that credo may or may not be a wonder of the Black world. You can see how complicated Blackness gets.

In this song – and this is NOT snitching – Kendrick drops the line, “slick as El Debarge with finger waves, work it JT!” which is a nod (I assume) to none other than J.T. Matthews, one of the members of The Five Heartbeats, a fictional group, long thought to be patterned after The Dells, for which a movie of the same name, The Five Heartbeats, exists. The other members of the group are Donald “Duck” Matthews (J.T.’s brother and songwriter of the group), Terrence “Dresser” Williams (whose real name you only find out through google because I’m not sure his real name is ever said in the movie), Anthony “Choir Boy” Stone (whose name DOES get said in the movie), and the lead singer, the one and only, Eddie King, Jr., a man for whom the pronunciation of his name has caused actual arguments and fist fights. It’s been said (though Snopes.com cannot prove it) that the first World Star fight video was between a grandmother and her 2nd cousin about whether Eddie’s last name was King or Kane.

“Work it, JT” derives from an early scene in the movie where J.T. and Duck run a scam on women that I’m pretty sure does not still work today, where Duck would go over to a woman and get her number for J.T. by convincing said woman that J.T. was too shy (I’m guessing that shit was cute back then) to come over himself. After a show where former lead singer (another fact verified by the interview that will be mentioned), Bobby, who lost his spot to Eddie by way of getting shot in the leg after running from a card game – we never hear from Bobby again – J.T. and Duck run the scam and then Duck asks J.T. to work the scam for him. It looks like it’s going really well, hence the line, “work it J.T., work it!” by Duck, only it turns out that J.T. selfishly got the chick’s number for himself. But because God has a sense of humor and also doesn’t like ugly, the woman whose number J.T. got was at the restaurant with a man who uttered the quotable ass quote, often heard at nightclubs and Black game nights everywhere, “every night I have to fight to prove my love” as he goes off to whip J.T.’s ass.

Long explanation aside, that “work it J.T.” line is one of my favorites. Always has been. Me and my boys use it all the time.

I made mention of this on Facebook and one of my friends from college, and real talk I always give him credit for this, one of the reasons I ever started blogging in the first place, Calvin, jumps into the comments with this:

“My favorite Five Heartbeats pet peeve/nit pick is that people refuse to call Eddie King Jr by his real name….it’s not Eddie Kane or Eddie Cain or any other such variation! It’s almost as bad as people saying “who else wanna eff with Hollywood Cole” (it’s Hollywood Court)”

I, too, detest that everybody refers to that Hollywood Court as Hollywood Cole, a nod to Outkast’s song “Spottieottiedopalicious” where Dre’s Atlanta accent confused way too many people, but if you aren’t from Atlanta then there is literally NO reason to know about Hollywood Court, a now demolished housing project on the West side of the city in Zone 1.

An-t-way, Calvin’s comment reminded me of the time that I got verification from one person who could provide such verification of what Eddie’s ACTUAL last name is: Robert Townsend, the who directed The Five Heartbeats, and co-wrote it with Keenan Ivory Wayans. If anybody knows the truth, it’s him. Right? Right.

It just so happens that through the power of the Internets I once got the opportunity to speak to him and ask him directly. A woman I  knew through VSB and I were talking about me wanting to ask Robert Townsend himself. Turns out, she was a publicist with The Caraway Group AND doing work for her firm on another movie he directed called In The Hive. She said she’d set up an interview with him if I agreed to interview him about the movie and write a piece on VSB about it. (I still have all of the emails from September 2011 to prove it.)

Bruh. Sign me up.

She set up the interview and I had the opportunity to talk to him about In The Hive. We chopped it up for about 30 minutes and toward the conclusion of the interview I told him that I had to ask him a question that was going to settle bets everywhere: in The Five Heartbeats, what is Eddie’s last name?

He said, definitively, that it was King. We laughed about that and I told him that I was about to lose a bet because I swore his last name was Kane (like so many people do). We got off the phone and I never did write up that feature (my bad).

But from there, every time it comes, I make sure to reference that convo to people and make sure that I’m doing my part for the culture. So if you are indeed wondering and have been calling that man Eddie Kane, Jr., since the 90s, the truth is, his real name is Eddie King, Jr.

His name is his name. Sharing is caring and the more you know…ding.

So in case you ever wondered, to quote Maxwell, don’t ever wonder.

You’re welcome.

Panama Jackson

Panama Jackson is pretty fly (and gorgeous) for a light guy. He used to ship his frito to Tito in the District, but shipping prices increased so he moved there to save money. He refuses to eat cocaine chicken. When he's not saving humanity with his words or making music with his mouth, you can find him at your mama's mama's house drinking her fine liquors. Most importantly, he believes the children are our future. You can hit him on his hitter at panamadjackson@gmail.com.

  • Roz

    Leon was fine to me before I knew what fine was. Now I’ll go back and finish reading.

    • Jennifer

      But, he always played THAT dude who came with the foolishness. Did he ever get to be the good guy?

      • You right. By the time he came around in Waiting to Exhale, I was like UGH..THIS NEGRO lol

      • cakes_and_pies

        In Cool Runnings and Black Jesus in Madonna’s video. Das it.

        • Quirlygirly

          C&P with the long memory..He sure was in Madonna video..looking all waxy

          • Brass Tacks

            this made me laugh.

          • cakes_and_pies

            I just remembered his Little Richard movie.

        • Jennifer

          Meh. He still felt kinda freaky in the Like A Prayer video, but maybe it was the Madonna effect. That brother will never stop dripping of chex, coke, and pregnancy scares.

      • Wowza23

        I think in ‘Above the Rim’ he was good.

  • IDontKnowAnyMore

    I so thought it was Hollywood Cole.

  • tipartsy

    I never heard NOBODY say “Hollywood Cole”….lol….that’s so funny to me – but I’m from NC, so I know about Hollywood Court. Shout out to spottieottiedopalicious. But Eddie KING?!?! What tha….who knew man?….it’s a new day.

    • Brooklyn_Bruin

      I think that’s what it says on rap genius, where any kid from Oslo can translate rap for people in Swaziland

      • Jennifer

        You just wrote their new tagline.

      • Zil Nabu

        I can’t with you.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          Trying to be less evil, I am trying so

          • Zil Nabu

            Try harder.

    • panamajackson

      You’ve got people in these comments who got it wrong. J. Cole himself has called himself Hollywood Cole and I can’t be convinced it’s not bc if that song. It’s a thing.

      • tipartsy

        I’ve rapped that song 1,000 times and never made a connection between j. cole’s Hollywood Cole and Hollywood Court. I thought he was just calling himself that lol. Damn. #lightbulb

  • Michelle is my First Lady

    Eddie Kane, Jr. sounds better than Eddie King, Jr. It rolls off the tongue.

  • Me and my husband always say the line “What because I have 1 or 2, maybe 2 drinks, now Imma ackaholic?”

    • LMAO that’s one of my faves! I like to say it when I’m acting up while drinking…and I’ve def had way more than maybe 1 or 2 lol

  • Brooklyn_Bruin

    Shout out to Groovy Tony though

  • Val

    Speaking of people getting stuff wrong, I’ll be happy if folks learn it’s “Calm, cool and collected” and not “collective”. My fb feed is littered with this craziness. But, I don’t expect miracles, so I know he’s always going to be Eddie Kane, Jr. And I can live with that.

    • TheUnsungStoryteller

      Ummm…Val. Why??? You just blew my mind.

      What about might as well vs. mineaswell? Lol ?

      • Val

        Lol Oh my, I’ve never heard that one, thankfully.

      • Mine as well is a huge pet peeve and my sis n law says it ALL THE TIME on text. Sometimes I reply “Yeah, might as well” hoping she’ll notice the difference but alas, here we are.

        • JennyJazzhands

          My supervisor texts me something and then says “does that make since?” I can’t…

          • Quirlygirly

            BWHAHAHA “Since” That is hilarious to me

          • TheUnsungStoryteller

            ??Ermmm….problems.

          • Brother Mouzone

            My response would be, what DOESN’T make sense is how are you MY supervisor.

            • JennyJazzhands

              Girl, it’s a dance company. But, I still wish she that she wasn’t the person assigned to communicate between the owner and the teachers.

          • Looking4Treble

            Reply with “Since WHEN?” with big doe eyes.

        • Brother Mouzone

          I have actually never heard this one before.

      • Michelle is my First Lady

        Or they place it all together like mineswell.

      • cakes_and_pies

        When people throw a “s” on “mine” irks me to no end.

      • malaentuvida

        i thought people thought it was minuswell

    • Michelle is my First Lady

      “My fb feed is littered with this craziness.”
      Here’s another: Sorry about your lost.

      • Val

        Yep, that’s a classic.

      • Jae Starz

        Oh this one gets my pannies in all the bunches. It takes so much restraint for me to not be an a-hole and correct them.

      • Mr. Mooggyy

        That. Drives.Me.Crazy! And its sooooooo many people who say “lost” instead of “loss”. It’s like, I’m trying give my condolences but your folks are irking my last nerve!

        • Michelle is my First Lady

          Yes! Like, when did all this start? Who raised these people? Wolves?

      • I’m awake. I’m bless…

        • Looking4Treble

          I’d have to ask “Is ‘Bless’ your real name?” QTNA.

        • Michelle is my First Lady

          I’m too bless to be stressed

          • OMG my cousin puts this up daily and I’m always like BLESSED, BLESSED, BLESSED. You are not bless!!!!

            • Michelle is my First Lady

              haha! she’s bless tho pinks!

              • He’s far from bless(ed). Half the things he writes are misspelled misogynistic rants or stuff he reposts after deleting the original post for not getting enough likes.

                I want to talk about how his middle child ain’t eem his according to the grapevine, but I’m Kermit.

                • Michelle is my First Lady

                  oh god, he’s one of those types.

                • Janelle Doe

                  What rants pacifically
                  ;-)

        • Brother Mouzone

          When I hear a becky say “have a blessed day”, I automatically know she f–s with brothas…lol.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        Rest in power

        • Quirlygirly

          I rebuke this saying! Every time I hear it I get so annoyed

      • SororSalsa

        Or, and I’m probably going to get slandered for this….”down pack”. It’s down pat. What is down pack?

    • also, when people say they do something everyday as opposed to every day.

      Everyday = adjective = commonplace, mundane, regular

      Every (space) day = adverb phrase = each day

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        Go in to, versus go into?

        I stopped using the phrase altogether.

        • I’m trying to explain some of this stuff to a new writer and I want to strangle myself.

          Grammar isn’t that hard.

          <—-English major and Virgo so my sensitivity to little stuff that most other people don't care about is quite high

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            Grammar only makes me appreciate foreigners more

            • Looking4Treble

              As I understand it, English is one of the toughest languages to learn as a second language, due to all of the grammatical exceptions, colloquialisms and slang.

          • Looking4Treble

            My favorite is ‘loose’ when they meant to say ‘lose’. That just kills me.

        • LOL I don’t have time for “in to” or “into”

        • Brother Mouzone

          Alot…a lot dammit!!

          • Me

            I use alotta all the time, knowing full well it gets under people’s skin.

    • Jennifer

      Is your FB feed bothered or something? I’ve never seen that before.

      • Val

        My fb feed is always bothering me. Lol

    • FOR ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES.

      As opposed to extensive ones.

      • Quirlygirly

        When you know the meanings of words and then you see it used incorrectly..it just burns me up..

        FOR ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES…it doesnt even make sense tho..It doesn’t make cocka doodie sense!!

      • Miklonis

        Actually, it’s “for all intents and purposes.” Legal phrase. Sorry to be that guy. I was being pacific.

        • Looking4Treble

          I see what you did their.

        • I pacifically put it like that because I know I was write. Jeez, you try to be helpful and people just don’t know there place.

          • Brass Tacks

            I caught that last part.

          • Janelle Doe

            Hahaha

          • SororSalsa

            I see what you did there….and their. And they’re.

        • Brooklyn_Bruin

          As a matter of fact…

        • SororSalsa

          Better than Atlantic….

      • NO.

      • Looking4Treble

        Time of death, 1:56 PM CST.

      • Intents and purposes. Say it with me, now.

      • SororSalsa

        And for God’s sake….”irregardless” is not a word. Anywhere.

    • ThatJerseyGirl

      I’m ready for folks to learn that “irregardless” is not a word. My eye twitches whenever I hear or read that mess.

      • Brooklyn_Bruin

        I was just conversating on that one. I just need to orientate myself on it

        • Jennifer

          I see what you did there.

          • CParis

            I think you meant they’re.

            • Jennifer

              Their gonna get you for your grammatical mistakes.

              • Mochasister

                Right eye starts to twitch as Mochasister corrects sentence in her mind.

                • Jennifer

                  Mission accomplished.

            • TheUnsungStoryteller

              Nah… she meant their

        • Looking4Treble

          ‘Orientate’ is another one that makes my eye twitch. Who told them that ‘orient’ needed another syllable?

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            Could you be more Pacific?

            • Looking4Treble

              Killin’ me, bruh. Just killin’ me.

              • Brooklyn_Bruin

                I was writing a short story where a side character was full of malapropisms and portmanteaus. Made my own self mad.

                As opposed to make his own self mad…

                • Looking4Treble

                  And now I just made my own self mad thinking about what you wrote to make your own self mad.

                  Does that mean that now bof of ourselves is mad?

                • Brother Mouzone

                  All both of em’.

        • JennyJazzhands

          I hate orientate with a passion. I worked too long around people who spoke solely in office cliches though. So, maybe it’s just me. If someone had said, circle back, think outside the box, going forward, manage up or any of its brethren once more, I would have completely lost it.

          • Brooklyn_Bruin

            Not sure if i overstand, can I get some color on this?

            • JennyJazzhands

              No. I’m so glad I no longer work in an office.

              • Brother Mouzone

                You and me both.

            • ThatJerseyGirl

              I’ll have to socialize that with my team and get back to you.

              • Looking4Treble

                Please advise and revert to the group once you have the issue sorted, so that we can agree on a path forward.

                • ThatJerseyGirl

                  Absolutely. Will do the needful and report back.

                  • Looking4Treble

                    Sounds like you work for an international company like I do. :-) I first learned “do the needful” in the UK.

                    • ThatJerseyGirl

                      I’ve heard it from non-native English speakers, but only in a business setting, so I tend to lump that phrase in with all the other corporate lingo.

              • Brother Mouzone

                I’ll “reach out” to marketing for further analysis.

            • Looking4Treble

              Yes, and then perhaps we can collaborate to invest in the synergies of this effort, in order to reach a mutually acceptable conclusion, in order to contribute to the Feng Shui of the office.

          • Brown Rose

            Circle back is maddening.

      • Val

        I think the “irregardless” people are going to win eventually just like the “conversate” people won.

        • Jennifer

          #resist

        • ThatJerseyGirl

          Wayment – the “coversate” delegation won? When did that happen?!?

          • Jennifer

            It’s rampant. People say it confidently and without shame. I probably hear conversate more than I hear converse.

            • Quirlygirly

              They say it without shame because they no none. These days you can make up a word and within a few years it is in the dictionary and you are vindicated..

              • Jennifer

                I’m okay with language being a living thing. I just hate when our linguistic tastemakers are those dudes who used to step to me at the mall in high school.

                Conversate. *shudder*

                • Quirlygirly

                  RIght..Language should move with the times but not at the expense of making sense or allowing idiots define or make up words because they did not learn correctly in the first place.

                  • Me

                    But the irony is that Shakespeare was once this kind of idiot, and now his works are “classics” and his words are part of everyday language.

                • Looking4Treble

                  Hilarious and sad all at the same time. You have my condolences.

              • Spicy Kas

                Proven by “fleek”

            • KeciB

              I refuse to ever accept “conversate”. My biggest pet peeve on Facebook is your v. you’re.

          • Val

            A couple of years ago, I think. https://www.wordnik.com/words/conversate

            It’s even in the dictionary now.

          • CParis

            Upvoted for “wayment.”

          • Spicy Kas

            About 5 years back after we won the battle over ain’t.

        • Brother Mouzone

          A strong dark horse candidate….COULD care less. It’s COULDN’T care less.

          • Quirlygirly

            LOL..People say this wrong all the time and I just look at them..but I didnt want to seem to nit picky

            • Brother Mouzone

              I’m starting to feel like the grammer po po.

          • Jennifer

            This is one that always starts a rumble in these e-streets. Inevitably someone will post an article going around about the difference between the phrases. Then people are ridiculed for responding to a post at all when they said themselves they “couldn’t care less.” The internet is basic.

          • Looking4Treble

            Cosign to the Nth degree.

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          I hate that unicorn word!

        • Yay Radley

          THEY DID NOT! We are still fighting the good fight!

          • Val

            Sadly, it’s over.

        • Spicy Kas

          Conversate is a word irfuckingregardless of what you may think.

        • Mochasister

          I kinda like conversate. And yes I know it’s not a real word.

      • Gibbous

        There is an irregardless Cafe here in NC. I’ll NEVER eat there!!!

    • Zil Nabu

      Nothing makes my a$$ itch more than hearing cool, calm, and collective. It makes me violent.

      • Brother Mouzone

        The whole “my bad” thing irks the f— outta me.

        • Val

          Lol Really? Why?

          • Brother Mouzone

            Because the original term comes from the basketball courts in the hood growing up and it is my baG with a G. This makes no sense to those on the outside of that culture so they renamed it baD because it makes more sense to THEM. Just like a lot of things that come from us, we rolled with their change and act like it’s correct. I hate when I see a brotha on tv that I KNOW knows the correct slanguage, saying my bad…arrrggg!

            • panamajackson

              But my bad makes all the sense. I need the “my bag” receipts on being taken and renamed

              • Zil Nabu

                Oh now you want receipts but don’t wanna give none.

                • Brother Mouzone

                  And I want him to make sure he brings me back that receipt when he finds out about what I told him being true. Once it got to the NBA and white players and reporters got a hold of it, it was changed to make sense to THEM.

              • Brother Mouzone

                How does my bad make sense? My bad What? You have family in Michigan right? If you have any relatives in Detroit over 35, ask them and get back with me. Our slang makes sense to US. Remember “house”? He housed him…i.e. faked him out, dunked on him. Does that make sense? It does when you come from that environment. To bag is to mess up. The older cats on the basketball courts when I was a kid would say “my bag” if their man got by them or they made a bad pass to a teammate. Ask your fam, it’s probably a northern/Midwestern thing.

                • 44isnojoke

                  Ok so here’s the thing. In Texas it was my baD…but wypipo thought is was baG. So me and my twin use baG mockingly. Just to poke fun of them. Irregardless of the principalities this makes me disencouraged.
                  *True story…in 2003 a clerk in HR told me not to get disencouraged. I blinked several times and called my sister. Sharing IS caring.

                  • Brother Mouzone

                    Those wypipo actually were using the correct slanguage.

                  • Looking4Treble

                    Disencouraged. WTF… I just can’t.

                • Spicy Kas

                  Cali was and is “my bad”

                  • Brother Mouzone

                    Y’all usually late to stuff. Cali still had Jheri curls into the 90s. Again, you have to be of a certain age to know the origin. It’s like explaining to my niece that the songs that are being rapped on are not that rappers song…it was created by someone else and remixed, just like my bag. You, just like her, are only aware of the remix and not the original.

                    • Spicy Kas

                      Cali had curls into the 2000’s but I digress.

                • Mochasister

                  I’m originally from the Midwest; growing up I remember saying my bad. But back then it was mostly Black kids that said it. The Dwights didn’t know what we were talking about.

                  • Brother Mouzone

                    If you’re not at least 35 to 40, you came about when it had already been bastardized.

                    • Mochasister

                      Oh, no I’m definitely (a little) over that age range. It was considered new when we were saying it. This was long before the Dwights had access to the Internet, smartphones, Youtube, or WSHH. Having a Black boyfriend or girlfriend as an “accessory” a la Kardashian style wasn’t considereal de rigueur like it is nowadays. They didn’t know what we were talking about. I miss those days. Now the minute Black people say something it’s uploaded to the Internet and copied by sundown by the Dwights.

            • Spicy Kas

              Gotta disagree with you on this

        • Zil Nabu
          • Brother Mouzone

            AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

    • Quirlygirly

      cool, calm, and collective does not even make sense tho…

      • Val

        None whatsoever.

    • Mr. Mooggyy

      I feel you on the FB thing! That’s why I only do FB is spurts now. It’s usually the older people on my feed that just got on social media within the last 5 years! Like, who taught you grammar and how to type!?

    • Valerie

      I’ve never heard cool, calm, and collective before. Sounds annoying.

    • Glo

      “A whole nother” bothers me a lot when I hear it, but seeing it in writing drives me insane.

      That being said, I love the way black people put “a whole a$$” in front of something to make it more serious, i.e. “He has a whole a$$ wife” or “I can’t do that, I have a whole a$$ job.” This is actually my favorite thing.

      • Love saying it and writing it. It adds a little something extra.

      • Mochasister

        Hmm, I must be old school. I just use a** by itself. “Bad a** kids.” “Grown a** man/woman”

      • Val

        Lol

      • Looking4Treble

        This is great. As a grammar snob, I approve this message.

        • DiamondIsMyRealName

          I own a shirt that reads “CORRECT GRAMMAR MATTERS” :)

          • Brass Tacks

            Nice pic.

            • DiamondIsMyRealName

              Thank ya kindly!

              • Brass Tacks

                :-)

          • panamajackson

            You must be irritated a lot

            • DiamondIsMyRealName

              I try not to let these things get to me, but every single point in these comments are valid reasons why I have not had FB for over 5 years, and I have never had an Instagram or Twitter account.

      • Zil Nabu

        Thank you for this representation of my life.

        • Looking4Treble

          So I’m not the only one who proofreads his texts? And here I am thinking I’m ‘special’.

          • Zil Nabu

            I get embarrassed if I have typos in my texts or facebook posts because I make it a point to ridicule others for theirs. I go back and edit all the time.

            • Looking4Treble

              I feel you. When you are a grammar snob, you can’t be caught slippin’. :-)

      • Looking4Treble

        That’s another one. How in the h e l l did ‘pacific’ become a substitute for ‘specific’??!!

      • Simms~

        My kids hate me because I correct them while speaking (mid sentence) and even make edits their text messages and social media posts.

        • DiamondIsMyRealName

          My mom used to correct us mid-sentence and now I do this to my son. Who is 7, and knows that there is a difference between you’re and your, there, their, and they’re, know and no…and a few others. It warms my heart!

          • Simms~

            I approve of this.

          • Mochasister

            Yes, Jesus! I teach these homophones in my classroom.

        • Mochasister

          Please continue to do so. Their teachers will thank you for it. I know. I am a teacher.

      • Me

        I would purposely be the person in green b/c that’s how my petty flows. I caught a friend of mine about to correct a word I misused in conversation, so I decided to find reasons to repeat the same misused word another 5 more times just to see what she would do. It amused the heII outta me.

      • Mochasister

        Oh, God. I just saw one of my pet peeves. The misuse of their. People use their for they’re or there all the time. Drives me nuts.

    • Calm, cool and “collectIVE’ makes me so mad! Just…SO MAD.

    • Looking4Treble

      People actually think it’s ‘collective’?

      • Val

        Sad isn’t it.

        • Looking4Treble

          Indeed. When you think about it, ‘collective’ doesn’t make sense in the context of the saying, but…oh well.

    • “For all intensive purposes…”

    • Miklonis

      I hate when people tell me to be “pacific” about the details. As opposed to being Atlantic about them, I guess.

      • Jennifer

        LMAO!

    • OrigamiBird

      Add “I could care less.” and “I changed my ways, did a complete 360.”

      • Mr. Mooggyy

        I laughed at 360!

      • Looking4Treble

        I so badly want to demonstrate a 360 to them, to show that you are actually headed in the same direction, but I try to hide my petty.

      • Quirlygirly

        I tell people all the time..it is a 180.. A 360 is a circle which mean you are at the same point you are now..*deep sigh*

        • Mochasister

          I know this but I still mess it up. And what about “I could care less.” Is that correct or should one say “I couldn’t care less?” I just never use that expression because I honestly don’t know which one it is. Ugh.

    • Me

      I must be one of very few people who don’t mind the grammar/vocab/spelling gaffes. My stance is always, if you understand it enough to correct it, then the value of the conversation still stands. It actually irritates me when someone is in the middle of a cogent thought, and someone else interrupts for the sole purpose of correcting grammar, or when two people are debating, and one of them uses grammar/vocab/spelling as a rebuttal. Education should never be used as such a rigid tool. Doing so stagnates thought IMO. I’ve been on dates with guys who took a moment to point out someone else’s grammar, and it turns me off. Something about it says that you’re to busy being hoity toity to actually care about the person you’re supposed to be engaged with. And being a jerk trumps terrible English for me. *leaving any and all of my mistakes as is for the purposes of this conversation*

      • Spicy Kas

        Hotee totee. Fixed it

  • ThePrestigeSeries

    I don’t mean to pivot or change the narrative but is no one else perturbed by the fact that he never followed through with the article? Come on dude! You’re harshing the vibe and it’s making your whole premise one of alt facts! Also, I can’t remember the last time I watched the 5?s, so I can’t really do the popular lines with you other than the obvious one that everyone knows…

    • cakes_and_pies

      Yes. I liked that movie.

      • ThePrestigeSeries

        “Nights like this”… I know but I digress.

    • panamajackson

      I mean, I meant to. Just never got around to it

  • This fact is depressing. For a while, my name online was EddieKane, particularly back in the IRC days during the Shiny Suit Era. I almost got an email address with that name. Here’s my problem though. Whycome none of these ninjas can enunciate properly? King and Kane aren’t supposed to sound alike. This hurts! But I still miss those EddieKane days. Sigh…

    • Val

      You know we Black folks say King as Kang when we get hype. Thus we have Kane and a mishearing of Kang. Lol

      • Brother Mouzone

        Like sing and SANG. Adele can sing….Aretha, Chaka, Whitney could SANG!!!

      • Mochasister

        This is true. I’ve heard many a Negro say Kang.

    • Hey I thought Hollywood Court was Hollywood Cole. Enuciation is a mf.

    • Get someone drunk and bring up Martin Luther the KAANG. You’ll hear it.

      • Not in the New York Tri-State though…

        • Barber shop scene. Coming to America.

          • That was him impersonating someone who moved up here from the South. No one under 50 talks like that.

  • This is the Mandela Effect in action, alternative facts and all.

    • Valerie

      I know right.

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