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10 Thoughts I Had While Watching VH1’s “ATL Rise” Rock Doc

ATLLast night, VH1 debuted their Rock Doc, “ATL: The Untold Story of Atlanta’s Rise in the Rap Game”. While watching it, I had a bunch of thoughts, mostly nostalgic

1. It’s been 13 years since I’ve lived in Atlanta. At this point, I’ve lived in Washington, DC, longer than I’ve lived anywhere else in life. It is home for me and I feel more connected to DC than any other place I’ve lived. But Atlanta is in my heart. Watching the Rock Doc (heretofore rerferred to as ATL Rise) had me feeling a lot of pride and feeling somewhat homesick. I was in ATL last week for a day visiting my sister who lives in the western outskirts. It takes almost 30 minutes to drive from her home into my old neighborhood on the West side of the city. In order to get to my parents home in Alabama, I don’t have to to drive through downtown or ever see the skyline. I can just be in Georgia. However, as I prepared for my daugher and I to drive back to my parents home, I was overcome with this need to drive thru downtown because I couldn’t be in Atlanta and not see the buildings and the skyline and feel like I was in Atlanta. I just couldn’t. I HAD to do it. I miss Atlanta is the point here.

2. I was too young to remember the time when Wayne Williams was terrorizing the city. But I as I got older, I remember Wayne Williams. I thought it was interesting, but not surprising they included him into the discussion fo ATL hiphop. He’s been mentioned by countless ATL rappers, but he was immortalized by this Andre 3000 quote, “…nobody would die in cops and robbers when we used to play right/the only thing we feared was Williams, Wayne…” on “Thought Process” from Goodie Mob’s first album Soul Food.

3. I hate Kilo Ali. Like hate with the passion of 1,000 sharks at a blood bank. This hatred is personal. See…and how do I put this without incriminating anybody…

…a guy whose named rhymes with Below Bali shot my cousin in the leg. My cousin is alive so I ain’t just snitch. Plus statute of limitations. But I’m saying, that Bowen Homes life is real and fuck Kilo Ali.

4. I grew up in Germany so our summers were spent back in the US and those summers in the late 80s and early 90s in ATL were when the city was on the rise and being documented in ATL Rise.With that being said, I vividly remember hearing Kilo Ali’s “Cocaine (America Has A Problem)” for the first time and loving it. Anyway, I had to be like 11 when I heard that song. They used to show scenes from MBK (a teen club on Campbellton Rd) on television at night, I want to say, before Arsenio Hall came on. We had this tiny ass television in the smaller bedroom occupied by a rotating number of cousins in my grandmother’s 2-BR duplex on the West side of Atlanta. Anyway, I remember hearing that song and being like, “wow…who is this dude!!!” Then…see #3.

5. It was interesting hearing the opinions of those so heavily invested in the music scene and their feelings about how ATL wasn’t getting respect on the hip-hop scene. It’s all obviously true, I just think I was too young to care back in the early 90s. I remember listening to the “Bankhead Bounce” and songs from Hitman Sammy Sam and Raheem The Dream and be like, yay ATL. I wasn’t a hip-hop head at the point so I didn’t really view any of it as being that important. Until Outkast. The way they teased Outkast in the documentary was very necessary. When Outkast hit, we all felt a change. For one, that “Player’s Ball” video was so authentic and southern. It felt like Atlanta. It looked like Atlanta. It was genuine. That is when I really started paying attention. I’ll add another anecdote in another bullet about Outkast.

6. Lightskint Chris from Kriss Kross is somebody I knew when I was younger. Not well. But his cousin stayed a few doors down from my grandmother so he used to always be at his cousins’s house. Now his cousin was a good friend of mine and he had a crush on one of my sisters so of course we were cool. Anyway, I remember LSC from those days then one day, hearing from his cousin that he had blown up. Then saw him on TV and was like…wow. In the doc they were like, Kriss Kross made everybody feeel like they could make it. That was very true. Seeing somebody I knew, only briefly, make it was definitely one of those, “if they can do it, anybody can do it” moments. Also, its a shame that they blew up as pop acts because they’re later work was more them. Thems was some niggas.

7. In high school, I had a friend named Corey who had an older brother named Nan (short for Fernandes – RIP Nan). Now, I have no idea how he got it, but Nan had some LaFace sampler that had half of Goodie Mob’s Soul Food album on it at least 6 months before that thing came out. Of course, none of us knew this. Nan hated the tape so he gave it to me and I blasted that thing. I had no idea what I had in my possesion. Goodie Mob didn’t get much airplay on the documentary, but while the nation loved Outkast (as did ATL, of course) a LOT of folks were REALLY lovin’ Goodie Mob and that Soul Food album. It was angry. It was smart. It sounded like music from a bunch of kids who were just trying to find a way out. “Git Up, Git Out” sounded like way more of a Goodie Mob song than an Outkast song. Point of it all, I was up on Goodie Mob for a looooong time before the rest of the South was. I’m bragging.

8. T.I. sounds like the West side of Atlanta. Outkast sounds like Atlanta. Goodie Mob definitely sounds like Southwest Atlanta to me. T.I.??? That is a West side nigga all day. I remember some years back when Shawty Lo (Bowen Homes representative, Zone 1) tried to claim that T.I. wasn’t really from Bankhead but was from Riverdale. And yes, he may have gone to high school for some time in Riverdale, but that nigga is Zone 1, Center Hill all day. All. Day. When I want to remind myself of what the West Side of Atlanta feels like (Adamsville, Zone 4, MLK4Lyfe), I throw in T.I. Any of it will do. I particularly love the King album. But Urban Legend was a spectacular painting of what life as a West side dopeboy feels like.

9. Amazingly, an hour and a half was way too short. It took them an hour to get to Outkast. They could really have done another 2 hours on ATL and still not covered it all. Oh, and it was good to see Jermaine Dupri get some credit. I feel like he’s one of the most underrated producers in the game ever. Probably because he lives in the pop realm. But he’s responsible for a lot. He put on for ATL in a major way. Same with Dallas Austin.

10. But Organized Noize will forever be where my hip-hop heart lies. They put on for ATL in such a spectacular fashion that their influence may never not be felt in the fabric of ATL hiphop. I know most folks harken back to ‘Kast’s Southernplayalisticcadillacmuzik as their favorite album, but ATLiens is what did it for me. And specifically, “Elevators (Me & You)”. I remember where I was the first time I heard it. It changed my life. That song opened me up and I haven’t been the same since. Now that song was produced by Andre, Big Boi, and Mr. DJ (they are known as Earthtone III), but there is no Earthtone III without Organized Noize and thus no “Elevators”. And I’m not sure where my life would have been without it. I’d probably be in jail. Or dead. Long live ONP.

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  • LadyIbaka

    Since you like the rachet, when are you going to give us a write up on Atlanta Exes (sp?!) thanks in advance.

    • panamajackson

      Women pretend to be friends. Then fight. Publicly. Reunion show. fight more publicly.

      I think that sums it up.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        Don’t forget the occasional drink thrown in the face, and somebody crying about how their husband is cheating on them anymore because they seem to be drier down below than a Seinfeld joke.

  • Only thing I remember about Atlanta hip hop I’d that when it “won” aka when hip hop listeners abandoned NY and spot in our face and degraded us and ignored everything that was bully was being bombarded by a bunch of dance songs that I can scarcely remember and producing zero classic albums outside of Jeezy. lithonia is okay, shame Stephen hill got cut by the jets. He’s a good dude.

    • panamajackson

      You actually think Jeezy is the only person from ATL to produce a classic album? I can’t remember if we’ve had this discussion before. I presume we have. But just so I’m clear…this is your stance?

      • Just referring to post 50 Cent as god of rap dominance. So like 2005 onwards ish

        • panamajackson

          Okay. To be fair, there haven’t been many classic albums period since then.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            To be fair, those classic albums are now called mixtapes, because 50 Cent decided to destroy the game as it was with his mixtape legacy before his album, and ever since, most rapper put their best stuff on mixtapes for free, rather than on the official album.

            • panamajackson

              Fair point as well. Chance The Rapper’s “Acid Rap” is damn near perfect.

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                I’ve had to listen to all of Chance’s older stuff to get a clear representation on how great Acid Rap really is.
                But his best verse in my mind is still on They Don’t Like Me by Childish Gambino.

                • panamajackson

                  Acid Rap stays in constant rotation. It’s so sonically perfect. And his off kilter style meshes very well with those beats.

                  • Medium Meech

                    I might finally have to give this dude another shot.

              • Take off a few guest appearances and it’s there. Only young rapper I’d put on Earl’s level. There’s a new kid out of New Orleans called Pell that’s like a poor Chancellor.

        • TheVilleintheA

          Oh, ok I see your angle now…

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          Hmmm. Good point. Nobody wanted Jay-Z albums like that after 50 dropped and the market was cold for a while before Jeezy got buzz

        • Medium Meech

          These aren’t my words, but a homey of mine from the greater NYC metropolitan area said it’s like New York’s been soft ever since Snoop came through and crushed the buildings.

    • DJ Kicks

      This was hard to read….
      “hip hop listeners abandoned NY and spot in our face” What?
      “and ignored everything that was bully was being bombarded by a bunch of dance ” huh?

      • Galaxy betrayed me and I don’t proofread.

    • Medium Meech

      “Grabs Nachos. Hits B-boy stance. Wonders how much this war of Northern aggression will divide the VSB Family”

      • h.h.h.

        *emerges from the shadows*

        *pulls a reverse Robert E Lee and sides with the North*

        Dipset > Goodie Mob

        *prepares for war*

        • BlueWave1

          No way. I’m taking Cell Therapy over any Dipset track.

          • panamajackson

            Yeah, I love DipSet. But Goodie was something special. At least on their first 2 albums. World Party was…a departure.

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          Damn. You went there. Dipset went through the East Coast like a plague.
          Do you know how many kids in MD & DC got shot up over Dipset arguments between 03-07? I’m not even lying

        • Medium Meech

          *Summons ultimate authority on hip hop, the 8 tails.* It’s the only way to decide this.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            If you get Bee to rap, we will be here all day

        • Lea Thrace

          I actually balled up my fist and muttered “f*ck that bulls**t” after I read your comment. I aint even a hiphop/rap head and that ish just made my blood boil.

          I need to breathe. Got me all angry off an internet comment. wooosah.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            Soooooo……I think I’ll buy you a Dipset jersey then.

            • Lea Thrace

              Look, I like Killa Cam as much as the next girl and Juelz did some things to me (in my head) when I was a younger and dumber girl. (Yall can keep Jim Jones and Freeky Zekey; I have never had any use for them as rappers or people).

              But to place them as better than Goodie Mob?

              Nah. That’s cause for a beat down in my house.

              • panamajackson

                Did I just fall in love with you?

                No.

                But it was a possibility. And romance…romance is about the possibilities.

                *takes a bow*

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                I’m not fighting you. I barely know that much of the Goodie Mob catalog but I still know its better than anything Dipset.

                I’m laughing though because you have no idea how ratchet the East Coast was between 2004-2007 when it came to anything Dipset. Those mixtapes had people losing their damn minds, and I know most of the music sucked, but people used act like they were Gods.

                When Hey Ma got filmed at Dream (now Love) in DC……I can’t tell you how crazy things were for weeks out there. When Cam got shot in DC? People was driving through DC & MD looking for clues. It was crazy.

                I could only wish them same kids on that Dipset juice had more Goodie Mob in their life.

                • NomadaNare

                  Yo, I passed his Lambo on the bus when I lived in DC like an hour after that ish. Life back then was crazy.

                  • RewindingtonMaximus

                    It was, the while city was on lock like it was the DC sniper all over again for a few hours

          • h.h.h.

            aww i apologize…i got something that will ease your mi

        • *peaks out of the shadows* Dipset was trash to me. *melts away into the dark like Batman*

          • *Holds up Nutcracker in the air and summons Shamira to the thread*

            • *Sharpens ax, readies my flamethrower, and shrugs*

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              See…Bunni..that’s not even funny.
              Are you prepared for her to channel her inner Juelz Santana and say “AYE” for 10 minutes straight? You sure?

              • IM SO READY AND I DAMB NEAR CALLED HER ON HER WORK PHONE TO LET HER KNOW THIS WAS GOIN DOWN

                *Pulls throwback jersey on, ties up retro jordans, harlem shakes*

                • God Shammgod

                  I appreciate the bat signal, Bun. You da real MVP.

                  I know what I’m not seeing is folks that love Southern rap saying that Dipset is trash. Dipset that changed the mixtape game? Dipset that defined an entire NY sound? Dipset with some of the top 10 album skits ever???

                  Naw , I know that’s not what I’m seeing.

                  it’s still Dipset you Dipsh***ts.

                  P.S. For the record, Juelz Santana is a bamma that used to post up across the street from Bronx Science selling dime bags.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            Somebody might still have a bottle of Sizzurp to throw at you, watch out.

            • *continues to sharpen ax*

            • IcePrincess

              Did someone say surp?? Throw it at me! Throw it at me! ;)

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                Woman you are beyond crazy, you want all that purp on you?

                • IcePrincess

                  I can catch ;)

                  • RewindingtonMaximus

                    This is why people grow very fond of you.

          • Rachmo

            *angrily puts a Lisa Frank sticker over Wu Young’s name in her Trapper Keeper*

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              Wow. Trapper Keeper. Sturdy.

          • h.h.h.

            you say wha about Dipset?

            http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/usmk.gif

          • miss t-lee

            Yup.

        • Neptunes presents The Clones

          That wearing pink ish was whack and so was the music

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            You clearly don’t get how much money clothing companies made creating pink clothes for those 2 years

            • Neptunes presents The Clones

              Everyone made money that time starting with FUBU. Am not cosigning pink,never

              • Andrea

                I’d like to see you in pink. I bet you would be very handsome…..

                • Neptunes presents The Clones

                  No,Never,Nyet. I would rather walk into Shamira’;s sitting room naked singing Dipset’s greatest hits

          • h.h.h.

            i’m sending vidal sassoon goons after you and ya platoon. soon.

            #CamRonComment

            • Neptunes presents The Clones

              Bring em out,bring em out

          • God Shammgod

            Go back to whatever mythical land you hail from and take your nonexistent avi with you. Dipset slander will not be tolerated.

            • Neptunes presents The Clones

              The only jam that mattered from them was the Oh Boy one to heck with rest

              • God Shammgod

                Not Down & Out. Not Crunk Musik. Not Dipset Anthem. Not I Really Mean It. Not any of their epic soul samples. Not even Hey Ma, that WHITE FOLKS can quote word for word.

                Oh Boy.

                Oh Boy indeed.

                • Rachmo

                  I mean…no woop woop wamp wamp beep beep????

                • h.h.h.

                  Get ’em Girllllllllllll #PurpleHazingIt

        • oh shyt, you done fucked up now lol

          • h.h.h.

            *laces up the beef and brocs in 84 degree weather*

            *turns on “357”*

            #Showtime

        • TheVilleintheA

          Please…

        • *slips in sucker punch because that’s how FL does it*

          http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llazuozWhq1qd7m1so1_400.gif

          • h.h.h.

            FL does it #BathSaltStyle

    • TheVilleintheA

      Huh???? Lithonia? You pick Jeezy over ‘Kast & Goodie? Why???

      • I was in Maryland last time Kast dropped an album.

        • TheVilleintheA

          I can’t quite catch your angle. You mentioned classic material, is it possible to use material from 1994-2002 if we’re talking about classics?

          • I’m just talking about my period in Georgia.

            • TheVilleintheA

              Ooh, you one-a-them…

      • panamajackson

        The Lithonia reference was an odd one.

        • I lived in lithonia during three late.00s so I was forced to be deeply immersed in all atl hip hop. I wouldn’t have given Jeezy or TI a listen if I didn’t live there likely.

        • IcePrincess

          Plus, Lithuania sucks balls. It’s the country.

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      I actually thought of something after rereading this. T.I – Trap Muzik was the first classic album out of ATL after 50 dropped that had us Northerners paying attention. But then Jeezy did a 50 and shut the game down with his debut.

      • Medium Meech

        I’m almost afraid to put this out there but I never got the Jeezy hype. Same with the Game too. A lot of wasted production talent.

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          Neither did I, but some people just loved to bug out on gutter ish….so that’s their victory

  • nillalatte

    Off topic:
    Kol sana wenti tayeba Asiyah! Alhamdulilah. #TeamVirgo.

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      Did you just wish her happy birthday?

      • Lea Thrace

        she sure did. #TeamVirgo all damn day!

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          Well then Happy Birthday to that sweet thang

          • panamajackson

            Man listen. I work for the feds. I was afraid to put that into a translator. I was hoping somebody would come thru and translate it.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              HA!
              Man I didn’t know what I read, I just saw #TeamVirgo and was like oh…she saying happy birthday

            • nillalatte

              LMAO!~! Sorry PJ…lol

      • nillalatte

        Yes, Rewind. We share the same day. :)

    • Neptunes presents The Clones

      Writing stuff like this will homeland security you

      • nillalatte

        LOL… I already have ‘friends.’ I ain’t scurred. Gitmo loves me. LOL JK.. seriously… JK!!!

    • EDIT: next time, read Google translate before commenting. Happy birthday!

      • nillalatte

        LOL… thanks Todd! :D What did you say initially? Folks all paranoid up in hurr. LOL

        • I thought you forgot it was Asiyah’s birthday too, and we’re just shouting yourself out. I wanted to mention it was her birthday too. And what is it with Islam and September 3rd? LOL

          • nillalatte

            LOL… completely a coincidence we share the same day. Nope, I didn’t want a long list of bday wishes. Just have a shot for me this weekend! ;)

  • kidvideo

    Did they cover MC Shy D?

    Kilo Ali songs used to get played alot in the skating rinks
    of Birmingham in the early 90s.

    Did they discuss when NY rappers “discovered” the ATL(ie, Erik Sermon buying a rim shop on Peachtree).

    • panamajackson

      They did have MC Shy D on there.

      They didn’t focus on NY rappers moving to ATL en masse. I actually have an Erick Sermon story. lol.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        Do tell.

        • panamajackson

          I straight up pulled a *NAME REDACTED* by throwing something out there and waiting for folks to ask me for it. My bad.

          Erick Sermon used to date one of my older sister’s best friends. Now, I lived in the hood. BUT…a mile down the street from my house were huge $300K (in ATL at the time that was like a million dollar house) and he lived in one of them. Well apparently, his girlfriend couldnt’ take him to pick up his car one day and she was like…call (My Sister)…her little brother lives right up the street he can take you.

          This is unbeknownst to me. Well, my phone rings and the caller ID pops up with ERICK SERMON 404-XXX-XXXX.

          Yo. I looked at that like…wait. Answered the phone and this fool asked me ot take him to pick up his car from the rim shop.

          You ever drive a rap legend to a rim shop? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwkward. Silence.

          • RewindingtonMaximus

            Wow. You was like a little corner kid who goes to the store for the OGs.
            Well aye, you might not have gotten a rapping deal, but maybe you can say the Green Eyed Bandit brushed off some of his magic to you and that’s you got this talent for vernacular.

            • panamajackson

              Erick Sermon wasn’t the best wordsmith out there. LOL. I’d rather take his production chops.

          • Andrea

            Well since you wanna bring up Long Island. I vote for Long Island. Actually I don’t know what we’re voting on…but umm. Public Enemy!!!!!!! Rakim! Prince Paul! Busta! That Method Gentleman, De La Soul, yadda yadda yadda. That at least has to be better than dipset.

            • MF DOOM > Dipset.

              • Andrea

                Yes Thank you. Also raised on Long Island.

              • RewindingtonMaximus

                My favorite as King Geedorah

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6XSZ4WtxuM

                • NomadaNare

                  Render unto Geedorah what is Geedorah’s.

              • cakes_and_pies

                Anytime I reference MA_DOOM or MF DOOM, I get crickets.

              • NomadaNare

                Was literally about to say the same thing to Sham!

    • TheVilleintheA

      I thought Too $hort owned that shop… At least that’s what the word on the street was.

  • DJ Kicks

    Was listening to the Juan Ep podcast with JD yesterday and that man’s contribution to music in general is greatly understated/underrated.

    • panamajackson

      I agree. He’s almost an afterthought despite being instrumental in so much of what we listen to today.

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        Its funny how time and young minds can totally forget what existed before to even make things as they are now. Without JD, half the artist that ever received Top 10 hits over the last 20 years would not have had hits period.

  • pls

    i knew ATL was taking over when that stupid azz pepsi commercial came out and they said “atl” like a hunnid times. but yea, as 3000 said, the south def got somethin to say!

  • BlueWave1

    You are so right about Organized Noize. They had that deep funk, blues tinged sound. You could hear a lot of that Memphis blues in their music. Conceptually Atliens surpassed Southernplayalistic. But musically Southernplayalistic was everything. Goodie Mob and especially Outkast got major play here in Los Angeles in the 90’s. I still remember my cousin and I seeing the Players Ball video for the first time. When Rico said, “I’m talking about a Black man’s heaven” we knew we had to see Atlanta!

    Atlanta brought Hip Hop back to the future. While the movement originated in New York a good deal of Hip Hop’s sound was deep Southern in origin. All those James Brown and Fred Wesley samples show just how much the South influenced the sound of golden era Hip Hop.

  • TheVilleintheA

    Knew someone who worked at LaFace and they had demo copies of SouthernPlayalistic and a few Outkast posters. I can remember thinking who are THESE dudes? Because a lot of people were giving away tapes of new music, that’s how I got a copy of a The Fugee’s first album. Not for long though, four months later that’s what got bumped in trunks. Never knew anyone was trying to place TI in Riverdale, I’ve always known him to be from the Bankhead area. A good friend of mine knows his uncle that he mentions in some of his songs.

    • panamajackson

      Yeah, there is a picture of him from a Riverdale yearbook from back in the day. Which…okay. When I think of Bankhead and trappin’, I think T.I. He put on for my side of the city and I appreciate him for that.

      • I have a love for the west side, mostly cuz the east side feels disjointed to me. As a New Yorker, I NEVER get lost on the West Side. I lived in Union City before moving further west and maneuvered smoothly around this side of town. But, I cant count how many times I got lost making 8 left turns in Ellenwood or pulling over in a gas station in Lithonia or Avondale Estates and just giving the fuck up lol

        **i secretly wish ATL was a grid like NYC lol**

        • panamajackson

          Well, the west side has all the famous streets. From Bankhead (I don’t care what they call it, it will always be Bankhead), Simpson (see Bankhead), MLK, Cascade, Campbellton, to Camp Creek.

          We got the hot streets.

          I did love The Gate on Candler Road and that flea market was the bomb. South Dekalb Mall had the best Popeyes in ATL, just like Cumberland had the best Wendy’s.

          • Camp Creek is now the Broke Bougie Girl Heaven and I cant stand it….I’m a newbie so Im still tryna digest all the Industrial Blvds in this city lol

        • TheVilleintheA

          “the east side feels disjointed”
          I approve this message

        • IcePrincess

          I can’t stand the eastside. It’s too country for me.

  • I loved this documentary. Growing up on the right across the river from Georgia I would get to hear a lot of these songs via the Augusta and Savannah radio stations.

    1.The usage of Sammy Sam and Kizzy Rock was nice to see.
    2. Where was Ghetto Mafia? Witchdoctor?
    3. Everything you said about Organized Noize was beyond true.
    4. The Dungeon Fam is my second favorite rap crew ever.
    5. Killer Mike may be my favorite rapper at the moment.
    6. Atlanta Bass music was something special.
    7. I thought Shy-D was a girl the first time I heard him.
    8. and I agree Peej, those first two Kast and Goodie albums change my life.
    9. “Player’s Ball” is one of my favorite Christmas songs.

    • Lea Thrace

      As someone who came from that nine one duece, our radio stations SUCKED at bringing new/good music. C-port radio was always like a month and a half behind the rest of the world (read: Atlanta). Your comment tells me geechee radio was just that much worse.

      • Yeah, this was before 94.1 came through and gave E 93 some real competition. (Both stations are shells of their former selves now) The station I listened to in Augusta, 100.9 did okay with that. So did the WIIZ in Barnwell. The only Geechie radio station that we could catch in Allendale was WPAL in Charleston and their main hip hop DJ was Corey Hill who played mostly NY rap.

        *Edit The Savannah stations seemed to becoming into their own around the time Camoflauge and his crew were bubbling but that was cut short. I remember that “Your Wallet Your Keys” joint they did.

        • Lea Thrace

          94.1 just made an already awful situation even worse.

          I’m on that #nonewfriends with them whenever I go back home.

          Ugh. Camoflauge. His end just makes my heart hurt. So much promise. Cut Friends was my damn JAM!

          • I listened to 94.1 on the way home Saturday morning…all bad.

          • Were Camouflauge’s killers ever caught or convicted?

            • Lea Thrace

              yes/no. the guy who was widely thought to be the perpetrator got caught and convicted on a different murder charge. Camoflauge’s murder is still on the books as unsolved though.

              • Wow. Wasn’t he shot in front or near his kid?

                • Lea Thrace

                  Yep. I think she was like two or three at the time. He was shot walking her home from the studio. Sad.

                  • It really is. I need to go down there and see my aunt and uncle.

    • RewindingtonMaximus

      Speaking of Atlanta Bass….Ghost Town DJs – My Boo….that summer that song came out…NYC never played it on the radio. It had to get dumb spins on MTV first, and then the DJs played it during DJ mix hours….but when they finally got it in the clubs….I think we finally had that fix from the Luke days we was missing.

      • panamajackson

        That song is still as popular today as it was back then. It might actually be a perfect record.

        • RewindingtonMaximus

          It brings out something nostalgic and innocent at the same time…I dunno how JD did it, but he did.

          • Lea Thrace

            Lissen. We played this song in marching band. (Yeah I was in marching band. Fight me.) I STILL to this day know how to play that music. When the tubas would start off that bass line. Woooo. Chills.

            • RewindingtonMaximus

              Don’t tell nobody I told you this but…..I know how to play that song on the cello.
              So…yea…your marching bad days are safe with me.

              • Lea Thrace

                That is…

                GLORIOUS!

                I made the decision last week to put my woodwind love on a temporary hold and go back to the strings. Trying to decide if I want to go back to viola or cello first. I have such equal love for both.

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  I need to be retaught to play both the violin and the cello because it has been years, but when you can do rap tunes on wood strings, you know you got skills.

              • This I need to see. My Boo on a cello? LOL

                • RewindingtonMaximus

                  I may be a bit rusty now but I did it in high school, old school teachers being cool and what not

        • miss t-lee

          That one, and “Shorty Swing My Way”.

          • LeeLee

            Yaaas! I loved the Shorty Swing My Way video too. Great workout music!

        • JM2C

          I feel so much better about my life right now. I loved “My Boo” too, but none of my friends were feeling it back then.

      • Yeah, My Boo was a hit. It’s a syrupy, dumb, and took all of 15 minutes to make, but it was fun. :)

    • panamajackson

      No way you throw Ghetto Mafia in a documentary heavily featuring Outkast. They had the dumbest beef ever. lol.

      Also, I cant see why Witch doctor would be in it. Aside from his one significant contribution in “holiday” i didnt think his album was good. I was a fan though. Cool Breeze ain’t make it. And he had multiple hits.

      • I didn’t know Ghetto Mafia and Outkast had beef. Always like Witch Doctor.

        • panamajackson

          “…we stole Big Boi’s car, got our strip on. We got the rims, the music and the cell phone…” – Ghetto Mafia “In Decatur”

        • miss t-lee

          Felt like Witch Doctor never got enough shine.
          Met them kats when they toured here with Goodie Mob back in the day. Cool, cool dudes.

          • panamajackson

            “Holiday” was a dope track. I recently listened to his album tho. He was pretty terrible.

            • miss t-lee

              Well…I don’t think I’ve listened to them since the the late 90s so…

      • RewindingtonMaximus

        Cool Breeze only had one major hit the rest of the country knows…and people STILL WANT TO KNOW WHEN HE IS COMING BACK.

      • “Watch for The Hook” was a dope posse cut.

    • Reemo

      “Atlanta Bass music was something special.”

      The origins of Atlanta bass music can be traced back to Memphis

  • RewindingtonMaximus

    I had to use the early internet to get any South music period. That and my move to Maryland is what helped me get into ATL everything, because that’s the first time I heard people playing South music in their cars, and having discussions about albums. Then going to Howard busted that door wide open even further.

    Do you know how hard it used to be to hear anything Southern before Outkast started to blow in NY? We never got shyte out of it at all. I remember distinctly in 7th grade, my white dance teacher had our class choose between a Smif & Wesson song or Goodie Mob – Soul Food for our show. Needless to say my class chose Smif & Wesson because…well Brooklyn. But she taught another class a dance routine under Soul Food and they RIPPED THAT SHTYE. First time I had even heard of Goodie Mob. Nobody in the audience even heard of them. Such a shame.

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