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10 Thoughts About “All Eyez On Me”, Both A Day Late and a Dollar Short

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I finally saw All Eyez On Me, the Tupac Shakur biopic that’s been years in the making after a bunch of fits and starts. It was pretty universally panned by critics, but I loves me a good bad Black movie so a bad review is like catnip to a thug. Also, I’m a big fan of Tupac so there’s almost no way that I wasn’t going to see the film in theaters. With that being said, here are 10 thoughts about the movie, in no particular order.

1. It wasn’t a good movie; it wasn’t a bad movie. It was the best of times and it was the worst of times. The entire time I sat in the theater I thought to myself that it could have been so much better of a movie, but then I’d remind myself that Lifetime took a crack at Aaliyah’s life, which means that it could have been waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse. If you’re a Pac fan, there is ALMOST nothing new here to learn. Almost. Straight Outta Compton it ain’t, but Man in the Mirror: The Michael Jackson Story it ain’t either.

2. The dude who played Snoop Dogg in the movie blew my mind. In every single review it’s been pointed out how much he sounds like Snoop. I found that hard to believe until I heard him speak. Jarrett Ellis could release an ENTIRE album right now using  his Snoop voice and you’d believe Snoop dropped another album. That’s how much he sounds like Snoop. Good lordt.

3. I feel like anytime – from here on out – that we need Tupac or Biggie, they should just call Demetrius Shipp, Jr. or Jamal Woolard. Typecasting? Sure. But who the hell else are you going to call? Anthony Mackie was the worst Pac ever and should feel ashamed of himself for taking that role in Notorious.

4. It’s been said in quite a few reviews I’ve read, but the most compelling parts of the movie were those that illustrated his relationships with the women in his life, specifically his mother (played by Danai Gurira who put her foot all up and through that role), Jada (Kat Graham) in a limited capacity, and sister, Sekyiwa (Rayven Ferrell). The moments with them all were the vulnerable ones and while his vulnerable side isn’t a mystery to anybody, it was touching to see him like that on screen.

5. I knew about the relationship with Kidada, but I actually felt like THAT would been a much more interesting movie to make about Pac: A movie that functioned within the personal change and duality of the man towards the end of his life when he was with her and was trying to leave Death Row while trying to merge his West Coast and East Coast allies (the One Nation album), until the end. Everything that was in the movie was something you know if you’re a fan. I imagine there are people who don’t know much about Pac or for whom this movie was their introduction into a man they mostly know was a rapper who was killed years ago. But I feel like there was a lot left on the table regarding that relationship.

6. Which reminds me of something else, there were times where the editing made feel like this was damn near a straight to TV movie. Good gracious. It felt so phony and forced in parts, and choppy. The random animation of the Death Row logo in the middle of the film, etc. Critics were pretty hard on the directing and editing and I think it was very justified. Don’t tell John Singleton that though.

7. At the same time, Demetrius Shipp, Jr. channelled the shit out of Tupac during the concert scenes. He had the movements down. The mannerisms down. The bravado down. For everything that I felt was lacking in the grander film, those scenes were done REALLY well. If you closed your eyes, you’d swear you were looking at Tupac up there.

8. Would I recommend going to see All Eyez On Me? Yes. Here’s why: It’s not the best movie, this much is true. But it’s a movie about our culture and about one of the largest figures to ever come out of the culture. That’s good enough for me. Now, that doesn’t mean you have to see it in theaters, either. But I wanted to so I could support because whether good or not, I like to see these movies about iconic figures in the Black world. Am I playing the Black card here? Yes. Yes I am. That’s the best I got.

9. I kind of wonder – and don’t think the answer is yes – if Afeni would have signed off on this movie. I know Benny Boom and L.T. Hutton have emphasized that they tried to take care with the movie and all that jazz, but part of me feels like, damn, it took over 10 years to make THIS movie? It’s basically a Tupac Behind the Music with actors playing all the scenes. Ever since Tupac Resurrection was made, part of me feels like unless you’re going to dig real deep, there’s no point in making a Pac movie. I still feel that way. This movie, in its finality, doesn’t really bring much to the Tupac table, so again, I wonder if Afeni would have signed off on this, and I think the answer is not in the way we got it.

****SPOILER ALERT IN A MOVIE WHERE YOU KNOW THE OUTCOME****

10. I’m SUPER intrigued to know if Pac and Suge were REALLY listening to “Blackberry Molasses” when he got shot. I don’t know why that was so fascinating to me but of all the songs to listen to when you get shot, that just seems so…ironic? Sad? WTFic? I don’t even know the right word. I can’t imagine that’s not true and that had to be shared by Suge. I’d never actually pondered on what they might be listening to in the car until that scene, and then I was like, “really? “Blackberry Molasses???” I’m kind of amazed this isn’t common knowledge, or if it is, how I managed to NOT know this for 21 years.  

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  • Charles Johnson

    OAN: Best Motown artists are The Supremes.

  • heyheyno

    I just saw it yesterday. In all honesty i didn’t know this much about Tupac. I guess I was so sheltered in the 90s I don’t even remember his death. What it did make me wonder even more is who killed Pac? Also I’d give it a 5 out of 10. Now I want to see biopics of all the great rappers of the 90s…lol Who’s biopic is next?

    • Val

      Prince?

      • KMN

        ~pops your hand~
        Stop it lmao don’t be giving folks no ideas…that’s like remaking Purple Rain

        • Val

          Prepare yourself, it’s gonna happen. Let’s just hope it’s a major production with a major budget, director and cast. *fingers crossed*

          • KMN

            ugh I am not HERE for such fuckery Val gahtdamnit lmao

      • NoGames

        But NO ONE can play Prince. Seriously No one…so can’t make a movie.

        • Val

          There’s someone who can. Whether they find that actor or not is the question.

    • BrothasKeeper

      Wu Tang Clan.

      • Val

        Who can even keep track of all of them. Lol

      • KMN

        Just let Meth play Meth and I’m happy with his chexyfineass ugh

      • Michelle is my First Lady

        There’s enough content with ODB alone.

    • Michelle is my First Lady

      I’d like to see some women in the mix. Maybe Queen Latifah, MC Lyte?

      • Mr. Mooggyy

        The key is to get them while they are alive! That way facts are indisputable!

        • Kas

          My family lies
          argues about facts constantly, and they are all alive.

          • Mr. Mooggyy

            Toushet!

      • heyheyno

        Yeah I think that would be a good idea.

  • AKA The Sauce

    I refuse to watch this movie.

    • panamajackson

      Why refuse?

      • AKA The Sauce

        The last Bio Pic I saw was the Aaliyah movie. After that I said I couldn’t do it again. I saw straight out of Compton and it helped. But this reviews of this movie…nah.

        • Val

          As much as I love Aaliyah I knew better than to see that nonsense. I mean, Wendy Williams produced it, man.

          • AKA The Sauce

            I was young…i’m older and wiser now.

            • Jennifer

              2 years later?!

    • I don’t “refuse” to see it but I’m just not planning on doing so. I caught 15 minutes of Notorious Saturday night and it made my teeth hurt.

  • The Third Man

    I’ll probably catch this down the road but the middling reviews plus the fact that Steve McQueen is making a 2Pac documentary kinda took the wind out of its sails.

    It did make me want to revisit M.E.D.’s 2Pac biography, Holler If You Hear Me, though.

  • Soul Glo Model

    I don’t want to pay 12 dollars to see some ish I actually lived through.

    Pac got killed over street beef that wasn’t really his to be in any way.

    Case Closed.

    The End.

    • Kas

      Basically doing stupid shidt

      • Soul Glo Model

        Got into it with some Crips out in Vegas (Back when drug money afforded such luxuries).

        And ish went left.

        It be like that sometimes.

        • Kas

          My personal rule. I don’t run up on anyone with my crew that i wouldn’t run up on my myself.

          • Soul Glo Model

            I never trusted my “friends” to do anything. Everyone talks like they got your back until the fists start flying.

            Nigs get ghost faster than Casper when its time for the real ish to pop off.

            • AKA The Sauce

              Facts…out of my friends I only know of one will stay for the fight. The others come back like “man, I thought you was wit us…had I known blah blah blah”

              So disappointing

              • Soul Glo Model

                People need to understand this! Folks stay saying what they will and wont do. But when it’s time to put that talk to action.

                Nigs fold like lawn chairs, B.

                • Kas

                  I’ve only been involved in one fracas that involved multiple people. From what I heard, my friends did their best. I had my hands more than full so didn’t have the luxury of looking around.

            • MissRosé

              I am that Nig. I’ve told my friends, fight if you want to, at most, I might give you an ice bag. I do not fight, I ain’t your crew, “we” will not jump nobody.

              • Soul Glo Model

                I’ve been jumped. It’s not like the movies. Aint nothing fun about it. You squaring up with one dude only to have someone sucker punch you from the side, and or back. It distorts where the danger is coming from. Making everyone seem like a threat.

                I don’t even tell mofos my beefs.

                Never know who’s spilling trade secrets

                • Blueberry01

                  :HUGS:

                  There used to be a silent rule that being jumped was for people who couldn’t fight. #B!tchMove

                  • Soul Glo Model

                    I agree.

                    And thanks.

          • Val

            You have a crew?

            • Kas

              Crew = friends. Shockingly, I have friends.

              • TheUnsungStoryteller

                Every time I think of the word “crew” I think of Prince…I mean Dave Chappelle.

            • TheUnsungStoryteller

              Assemble your crew.

          • Mel

            The only ” crew” I’ll fight for are the ones I have birth to(my boys) and my Mom.

        • BM, President of Fuckery

          Brass you hard AF.

          • Kas

            Did he lie?

          • ValerieTheTenderoni

            Soul Glo is Brass Tracks? Noted lol

            • Kas

              Smdh

              • ValerieTheTenderoni

                What’s the problem?

                • Kas

                  That you didn’t know that. Related, I spend too much time in the comment section.

                  • ValerieTheTenderoni

                    Yeah, you do.

              • Soul Glo Model

                Bruh. She called me Mr. Jheri Curl or some ish.

                I simply blinked twice and kept it moving.

                • Kas

                  I saw that. I didn’t realize she didn’t know who you were.

                  • Soul Glo Model

                    Man…

          • Soul Glo Model

            I just read a few books is all.

        • AKA The Sauce

          Is that so?

          • Soul Glo Model

            Yeah man. People want to create conspiracies for what really was some basic hood sh*t.

            That being said; it really had nothing to do with Pac. But he jumped in it and well…

    • BM, President of Fuckery

      Pac was the logical conclusion of someone not hood trying to be hood.

      • MissRosé

        I thought he was hood..

        • KMN

          He was a ballerina…he was Fame IRL…he wasn’t THAT hood

          • MissRosé

            Yall are ruining my childhood. He was just like Stringer Bell…he could be all those other things and still hood.
            BTW: I’m not a stan, I just really don’t like change.

            • KMN

              Girl I know…I feel you…but he was Leroy…and that’s ok!! ~hugz~

              • Val

                Not Leroy tho. Lol

                • KMN

                  Where’s the lie lmao?? I’m looking iownseeit ROFLOL

                  • Val

                    I mean, Leroy really was hood tho, thru and thru.

                    • KMN

                      Really? Girl I guess that weed got to my head lmao…that or I was too busy looking at Michael DeLorenzo…
                      Noted ma’am….noted lol

          • TheUnsungStoryteller

            I know! He was such an interesting kid…lol dancing and poetry. Did they show that part in the movie???

            • KMN

              That’s a good question…I haven’t seen the movie. I refuse to spend $10 on this…I done already messed up and spent $10 to see the fucking Mummy (FYI Don’t see the Mummy = trash lmao)

        • BrothasKeeper

          He was a reeeeeeeeeeeally good actor.

          • From him mama, he had enough exposure to the hood that he could at least function around hood dudes. His acting skill took it from there.

        • Val

          Hood adjacent.

          • That’s probably the most accurate answer. Like he’d at least seen a drug dealer before.

          • Blueberry01

            Like Kas…

            • Val

              Lol

      • That’s very true. 2Pac played hood on TV, and the combination of his background (which at least put him in the ghetto) and his sheer charisma pulled it off. I do get the feeling that 2Pac would have been annoying as h3ll if he were alive today though.

        • NoGames

          He and (ducks for cover) Aaliyah.

          • Val

            Why would Aaliyah be annoying?

            • NoGames

              Hummmm…maybe not annoying but definitely not the superstar that people act like she was going to be…more like a Ciara type of B list singer/actress/reality star.. IMO. By the way, I really like Ciara but I am not buying any concert tickets to see her.

              • Val

                Not sure about that. Her career trajectory seemed like it had the potential to take her higher than that. She may not have been able to take full advantage but I see her being at least a grade above Ciara. More like Alicia Keys than Ciara.

                • Soul Glo Model

                  I saw Queen of the Dambed and That movie with DMX and the dude not name Jackie Chan.

                  She wasn’t the next big thing in acting.

                  • MissRosé

                    Or music…*runs*

                  • TheUnsungStoryteller

                    The name is Jet Lee. Lol. He was cute to me.

                    • Soul Glo Model

                      Ah. Yes.

                      Jet Lee is his name.

                  • Janelle Doe

                    “If at first you don’t succeed”

                    • Soul Glo Model

                      It’s been a long time, we shouldn’t have left you
                      Without a dope beat to step to, step to, step to, step to

                  • Blueberry01

                    She starred in more movies than Ci Ci has, plus Bey definitely was not winning an Oscar for Obsessed…

              • Sweet Potato Kai ?

                Thank you. Aaliyah would’ve been sitting next to Ashanti, Ciara, Nivea, and all the rest who’s name doesn’t rhyme with fiance.

                • TheUnsungStoryteller

                  Awwww really? You had to do my girl like that? Does anyone remember Beyoncé around that time?

                  • Sweet Potato Kai ?

                    I will give her acting, but I can’t see it for her still poppin on the charts in 2017.I fx with her though.

                • Blueberry01

                  Are you a millennial? Aaliyah’s impact was WAY bigger than any of the fiancé sisters.

                  • Sweet Potato Kai ?

                    Nope.And I didn’t say she didn’t have impact.

                    • Blueberry01

                      …I didn’t say that you said, “she didn’t have an impact”. Your initial post suggested that she would be on the same level as Ashanti, Ciara, and Nivea. I disagree and expressed that Aaliyah’s impact would have placed her on a higher level of success than any of those ladies that you mentioned.

                    • Sweet Potato Kai ?

                      Well she’s dead. So there’s that.

              • Asking_Questions

                This seems like pure hateration in the danceree to me. She was a terrible actress but awesome vocalist. She would have gotten the Beyoncé treatment when it came to movies. People would have put her in them just because she was Aaliyah. However, no one would ever second guess that voice. She had the a swag that every girl in the 2000s wanted to emulate. And she had Timberland and Missy behind her. Musically she wouldn’t have left room for Ciara’s in the world. I dare say Beyoncé owes some of her stardom to Aaliyah’s untimely death because made space for her in the spotlight

                • Jess Bassey

                  Awesome…is a stretch for me… I did have the one in a million record but…das it:)

              • Blueberry01

                But Aaliyah dances BETTER than Ci Ci and she had solid acting gigs. Her voice was getting stronger over time plus her swag and Timberland’s beats had everyone locked in.

          • I could imagine an alternative universe 2Pac doing campaign rallies for Bernie Sanders. Or doing some Sean Penn ish overseas.

          • SN: My cousin used to date Aaliyah in high school and she now has a recital hall named after her at the school. She is overrated tho…

        • Val

          I can’t even imagine a set of circumstances where he would be alive tho.

        • TheUnsungStoryteller

          I agree. He would’ve been crazy, but lovable and always telling the truth. Like a 2005-era Kanye.

      • Soul Glo Model

        People don’t like that narrative.

        We want to remember Pac as the untouchable revolutionary, not the n*gga he could be at times.

        I say both parts made the man.

      • ValerieTheTenderoni

        Basically. Also his nose ring was a dead giveaway.

        • cyanic

          He was wavy?

    • Mr. Mooggyy

      The movie made it seam like Pac was a pawn! Exploited for his talents! It could be true.

      • Kas

        Not that you don’t know this, but I thought this was a good article
        https://theundefeated.com/features/murder-of-tupac-shakur-not-a-complete-mystery/

      • Michelle is my First Lady

        They also made it seem like Pac was a saint….
        *ducks, runs out the room*

        • Mr. Mooggyy

          No need to duck! Benny and LT are super fans and friends of Pac. So they wanted to make this movie in their vision of Pac. So for the saint part, there were elements of that! No doubt! But, at the end of the movie (and if you use logic), you know it was the folks that Pac and Shug jumped in the MGM Lobby that came back for that a$$! Pac was being used by everyone around him and he fell for the okie doke! He bought into that thug shyt (that he wasn’t)!

          ……..maybe it’s just stuff I knew and interpreted in the movie!

    • Michelle is my First Lady

      You could have easily read Pac’s Wikipedia page and found out all you needed to know. There was nothing new.

      • Soul Glo Model

        They don’t like the obvious narrative.

        Its much easier to believe some crooked cops or government agency was behind his downfall.

    • TheUnsungStoryteller

      That’s exactly what my older brother and sister said. They are from L.A. And they grew up in the 80s and 90s

      • Soul Glo Model

        It really matches up. If people would only do the research. The streets could’ve been killed (no pun intended) the conspiracies surrounding Tupacs death. But that would’ve meant possibly leaking some things in an era when the “no snitching”code was law.

        • RL McGruder

          Taking off my mask to say this was poorly written /hard to read, but really opened my eyes to that whole scene: https://genius.com/discussions/282069-Twitter-user-talks-about-90s-ny-goons-in-hip-hop-involves-tupac-biggie-jay-z-50-cent-and-more

          • Soul Glo Model

            This is brilliant! Why is it that I never stumbled across this before now? All of these guys I’ve heard about in some form or fashion, but some never had pics or they went unidentified in the pics I did see of them.

            Thanks for this!

            • RL McGruder

              You’re very welcome! Dude gets SO deep that I started to get a little concerned for his life (AND mine – should I even know all this stuff, bruh?).

              • Soul Glo Model

                Man, it’s wild. I would hear bits and pieces of each side but never knew how interconnected it all was.

                Even Im like wary of the amount of knowledge I gained from it. Domencio was often mentioned but very rarely spoken of in the same light as Alpo, so I always wanted to know what their beef was about (women…go figure).

                Thanks, RL.

                You sent ya boy a gem.

              • Question

                I think it’s a compilation of random submissions from other people, no? I can’t imagine one person having this depth of knowledge of sets and crews in so many different places.

                Reading this.. man, fascinating, dumbfounding, sad for all the brothers who lost their lives over dumb stuff. It’s crazy to read how intertwined the streets and rap really were during that time and how folks got out on..

          • Love Heals

            Wow. Thanks. Amazing amount of really specific info. Scary enough to help me understand why the writer doesn’t publish it as a book. Public acknowledgment of the aforementioned would seem ill-advised for someone intending to live till old age.

            • RL McGruder

              I’m saying! It’s…CONCERNING.

              • Love Heals

                FOR REAL.

  • Val

    This is pretty much how I felt about the New Edition mini-series on BET. I know most people don’t agree though.

    • cyanic

      Whatever its faults it was made for TV.

      • Val

        No excuse. They deserved better, IMO.

        • cyanic

          It matters because there are financial restrictions. Due to the format being broadcast and not streaming or premium cable editorial decisions were made for commercial breaks. Also, censorship keeping the R-rated details of their story at a PG-13 execution because their story deserves to be shared with multiple generations. I think they made the best possible movie under improbable conditions. I understand your reaction is purely subjective and those things I mention don’t matter to you when you sit down to watch something.

  • ValerieTheTenderoni

    So I only watched this movie because I didn’t have to pay for it but yes I agree I wish Kidada’s relationship was more fleshed out. That being said I don’t remember much of the movie it was $3 domestic beer night and $1.25 burger sliders night.

    • AKA The Sauce

      And this is why I refuse to see it.

      • ValerieTheTenderoni

        Once again it was $3 domestic beer and $1.25 burger sliders night.

        • Kas

          How thick were the patties in the sliders. We both know size matters.

          • cedriclathan

            Thick as a “meaty PAC.”

  • I want to hear Funk Flex’s take on the film.

    • panamajackson

      I don’t want to hear Funk Flex’s take on anything Tupac related ever in life. or anything for that matter.

      • I just want him to get drug through the e-streets. I swear he and Paul Pierce are on the same drugs.

    • ValerieTheTenderoni

      Why does he hate Pac so much?

      • He’s lame.

        • Funk Flex is just old. He’s held onto the dream 10 years too long, and we’re all paying the price for it. Flex at his prime was very good. Flex now is basura.

    • Nah, but I do wanna mess with his head and ask him How ‘Bout Them Falcons? LOL (FYI, his high school and mine are rivals in basketball, and suffice to say, they fell ALL the way off.)

  • Val

    Wait, did PJ say Kat Graham is in it? Mmmm.

    • ValerieTheTenderoni

      Yes our girl is in it lol

      • Val

        *Moves up list of films to see.*

        • Jennifer

          So, after the Lil Boosie biopic, but before the next Madea?

  • KMN

    Thanks for the PJ…I’ve been hearing that the acting is excellent but the movie itself was a mess…i’ll wait till it hits Netflix

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